Why is the set whose elements are a collection of sets equal to the union of that collection?
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Why is {$A_i$ : $i in I$} = $bigcup$$_{i in I} A_i$?
Suppose $I = {1,2,3}$, $A_1 = {a}$, $A_2 = {b}$, and $A_3 = {c}$
Then,
{$A_i : i in I$} = ${A_1, A_2, A_3}$ = ${{a},{b},{c}}$
$bigcup$$_{i in I} A_i$ = ${a,b,c}$
It doesn't make sense to me that ${{a},{b},{c}}$ = ${a,b,c}$. These look like two different sets.
elementary-set-theory
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Why is {$A_i$ : $i in I$} = $bigcup$$_{i in I} A_i$?
Suppose $I = {1,2,3}$, $A_1 = {a}$, $A_2 = {b}$, and $A_3 = {c}$
Then,
{$A_i : i in I$} = ${A_1, A_2, A_3}$ = ${{a},{b},{c}}$
$bigcup$$_{i in I} A_i$ = ${a,b,c}$
It doesn't make sense to me that ${{a},{b},{c}}$ = ${a,b,c}$. These look like two different sets.
elementary-set-theory
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This isn't true. Who said it was?
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– Randall
Dec 22 '18 at 3:35
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"It doesn't make sense to me that ___ ** = ** ___" Good. It shouldn't make sense to you because they aren't the same.
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– JMoravitz
Dec 22 '18 at 3:37
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$bigcuplimits_{iin I} A_i = {x~:~exists iin I~text{such that}~xin A_i}$
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– JMoravitz
Dec 22 '18 at 3:39
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${A_i:iin I}nebigcup_{iin I}A_i$ but $bigcup{A_i:iin I}=bigcup_{iin I}A_i$. Could that be what's confusing you?
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– bof
Dec 22 '18 at 4:08
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Yes, thank you bof and the rest of you guys. It's making more sense now. $bigcup$${A_i : i in I}$ is just the short hand for $bigcup$$_{i in I} A_i$. I see it now.
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– Andres Kiani
Dec 22 '18 at 5:20
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Why is {$A_i$ : $i in I$} = $bigcup$$_{i in I} A_i$?
Suppose $I = {1,2,3}$, $A_1 = {a}$, $A_2 = {b}$, and $A_3 = {c}$
Then,
{$A_i : i in I$} = ${A_1, A_2, A_3}$ = ${{a},{b},{c}}$
$bigcup$$_{i in I} A_i$ = ${a,b,c}$
It doesn't make sense to me that ${{a},{b},{c}}$ = ${a,b,c}$. These look like two different sets.
elementary-set-theory
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Why is {$A_i$ : $i in I$} = $bigcup$$_{i in I} A_i$?
Suppose $I = {1,2,3}$, $A_1 = {a}$, $A_2 = {b}$, and $A_3 = {c}$
Then,
{$A_i : i in I$} = ${A_1, A_2, A_3}$ = ${{a},{b},{c}}$
$bigcup$$_{i in I} A_i$ = ${a,b,c}$
It doesn't make sense to me that ${{a},{b},{c}}$ = ${a,b,c}$. These look like two different sets.
elementary-set-theory
elementary-set-theory
edited Dec 22 '18 at 3:37
Andres Kiani
asked Dec 22 '18 at 3:32
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This isn't true. Who said it was?
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– Randall
Dec 22 '18 at 3:35
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"It doesn't make sense to me that ___ ** = ** ___" Good. It shouldn't make sense to you because they aren't the same.
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– JMoravitz
Dec 22 '18 at 3:37
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$bigcuplimits_{iin I} A_i = {x~:~exists iin I~text{such that}~xin A_i}$
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– JMoravitz
Dec 22 '18 at 3:39
1
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${A_i:iin I}nebigcup_{iin I}A_i$ but $bigcup{A_i:iin I}=bigcup_{iin I}A_i$. Could that be what's confusing you?
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– bof
Dec 22 '18 at 4:08
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Yes, thank you bof and the rest of you guys. It's making more sense now. $bigcup$${A_i : i in I}$ is just the short hand for $bigcup$$_{i in I} A_i$. I see it now.
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– Andres Kiani
Dec 22 '18 at 5:20
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show 1 more comment
1
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This isn't true. Who said it was?
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– Randall
Dec 22 '18 at 3:35
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"It doesn't make sense to me that ___ ** = ** ___" Good. It shouldn't make sense to you because they aren't the same.
$endgroup$
– JMoravitz
Dec 22 '18 at 3:37
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$bigcuplimits_{iin I} A_i = {x~:~exists iin I~text{such that}~xin A_i}$
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– JMoravitz
Dec 22 '18 at 3:39
1
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${A_i:iin I}nebigcup_{iin I}A_i$ but $bigcup{A_i:iin I}=bigcup_{iin I}A_i$. Could that be what's confusing you?
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– bof
Dec 22 '18 at 4:08
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Yes, thank you bof and the rest of you guys. It's making more sense now. $bigcup$${A_i : i in I}$ is just the short hand for $bigcup$$_{i in I} A_i$. I see it now.
$endgroup$
– Andres Kiani
Dec 22 '18 at 5:20
1
1
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This isn't true. Who said it was?
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– Randall
Dec 22 '18 at 3:35
$begingroup$
This isn't true. Who said it was?
$endgroup$
– Randall
Dec 22 '18 at 3:35
$begingroup$
"It doesn't make sense to me that ___ ** = ** ___" Good. It shouldn't make sense to you because they aren't the same.
$endgroup$
– JMoravitz
Dec 22 '18 at 3:37
$begingroup$
"It doesn't make sense to me that ___ ** = ** ___" Good. It shouldn't make sense to you because they aren't the same.
$endgroup$
– JMoravitz
Dec 22 '18 at 3:37
$begingroup$
$bigcuplimits_{iin I} A_i = {x~:~exists iin I~text{such that}~xin A_i}$
$endgroup$
– JMoravitz
Dec 22 '18 at 3:39
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$bigcuplimits_{iin I} A_i = {x~:~exists iin I~text{such that}~xin A_i}$
$endgroup$
– JMoravitz
Dec 22 '18 at 3:39
1
1
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${A_i:iin I}nebigcup_{iin I}A_i$ but $bigcup{A_i:iin I}=bigcup_{iin I}A_i$. Could that be what's confusing you?
$endgroup$
– bof
Dec 22 '18 at 4:08
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${A_i:iin I}nebigcup_{iin I}A_i$ but $bigcup{A_i:iin I}=bigcup_{iin I}A_i$. Could that be what's confusing you?
$endgroup$
– bof
Dec 22 '18 at 4:08
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Yes, thank you bof and the rest of you guys. It's making more sense now. $bigcup$${A_i : i in I}$ is just the short hand for $bigcup$$_{i in I} A_i$. I see it now.
$endgroup$
– Andres Kiani
Dec 22 '18 at 5:20
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Yes, thank you bof and the rest of you guys. It's making more sense now. $bigcup$${A_i : i in I}$ is just the short hand for $bigcup$$_{i in I} A_i$. I see it now.
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– Andres Kiani
Dec 22 '18 at 5:20
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You are right, you have shown that they are indeed not equal.
Indeed ${{1},{2}} ne { 1,2} $ since $1 in { 1,2} $ but $1 notin {{1},{2}}$.
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You are right, you have shown that they are indeed not equal.
Indeed ${{1},{2}} ne { 1,2} $ since $1 in { 1,2} $ but $1 notin {{1},{2}}$.
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You are right, you have shown that they are indeed not equal.
Indeed ${{1},{2}} ne { 1,2} $ since $1 in { 1,2} $ but $1 notin {{1},{2}}$.
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You are right, you have shown that they are indeed not equal.
Indeed ${{1},{2}} ne { 1,2} $ since $1 in { 1,2} $ but $1 notin {{1},{2}}$.
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You are right, you have shown that they are indeed not equal.
Indeed ${{1},{2}} ne { 1,2} $ since $1 in { 1,2} $ but $1 notin {{1},{2}}$.
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This isn't true. Who said it was?
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– Randall
Dec 22 '18 at 3:35
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"It doesn't make sense to me that ___ ** = ** ___" Good. It shouldn't make sense to you because they aren't the same.
$endgroup$
– JMoravitz
Dec 22 '18 at 3:37
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$bigcuplimits_{iin I} A_i = {x~:~exists iin I~text{such that}~xin A_i}$
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– JMoravitz
Dec 22 '18 at 3:39
1
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${A_i:iin I}nebigcup_{iin I}A_i$ but $bigcup{A_i:iin I}=bigcup_{iin I}A_i$. Could that be what's confusing you?
$endgroup$
– bof
Dec 22 '18 at 4:08
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Yes, thank you bof and the rest of you guys. It's making more sense now. $bigcup$${A_i : i in I}$ is just the short hand for $bigcup$$_{i in I} A_i$. I see it now.
$endgroup$
– Andres Kiani
Dec 22 '18 at 5:20