Proving a function is always nonnegative
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Suppose $f : mathbb{R}^{n} rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is continuous and
$f(u) > 0$ if the point $u in mathbb{R}^{n}$ has at least one
rational component. Prove that $f(u) geq 0 $ for all $u in
mathbb{R}^{n}$.
Partial Solution:
What remains to be proven is that $f(u) geq 0$ for every $u in mathbb{R}^{n}$ with at all irrational components. Let $v$ be such a vector. Since every real number is the limit point of a rational sequence, we can define sequences ${r_{1}}, {r_{2}}, ldots, {r_{n}},$ where ${r_{k}}$ converges to the $k^{text{th}}$ component of $v$.
I don't really know how to finish from here. Can someone please help me?
real-analysis general-topology limits functions convergence
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Suppose $f : mathbb{R}^{n} rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is continuous and
$f(u) > 0$ if the point $u in mathbb{R}^{n}$ has at least one
rational component. Prove that $f(u) geq 0 $ for all $u in
mathbb{R}^{n}$.
Partial Solution:
What remains to be proven is that $f(u) geq 0$ for every $u in mathbb{R}^{n}$ with at all irrational components. Let $v$ be such a vector. Since every real number is the limit point of a rational sequence, we can define sequences ${r_{1}}, {r_{2}}, ldots, {r_{n}},$ where ${r_{k}}$ converges to the $k^{text{th}}$ component of $v$.
I don't really know how to finish from here. Can someone please help me?
real-analysis general-topology limits functions convergence
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
Suppose $f : mathbb{R}^{n} rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is continuous and
$f(u) > 0$ if the point $u in mathbb{R}^{n}$ has at least one
rational component. Prove that $f(u) geq 0 $ for all $u in
mathbb{R}^{n}$.
Partial Solution:
What remains to be proven is that $f(u) geq 0$ for every $u in mathbb{R}^{n}$ with at all irrational components. Let $v$ be such a vector. Since every real number is the limit point of a rational sequence, we can define sequences ${r_{1}}, {r_{2}}, ldots, {r_{n}},$ where ${r_{k}}$ converges to the $k^{text{th}}$ component of $v$.
I don't really know how to finish from here. Can someone please help me?
real-analysis general-topology limits functions convergence
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Suppose $f : mathbb{R}^{n} rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is continuous and
$f(u) > 0$ if the point $u in mathbb{R}^{n}$ has at least one
rational component. Prove that $f(u) geq 0 $ for all $u in
mathbb{R}^{n}$.
Partial Solution:
What remains to be proven is that $f(u) geq 0$ for every $u in mathbb{R}^{n}$ with at all irrational components. Let $v$ be such a vector. Since every real number is the limit point of a rational sequence, we can define sequences ${r_{1}}, {r_{2}}, ldots, {r_{n}},$ where ${r_{k}}$ converges to the $k^{text{th}}$ component of $v$.
I don't really know how to finish from here. Can someone please help me?
real-analysis general-topology limits functions convergence
real-analysis general-topology limits functions convergence
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For fixed $v in mathbb{R}^n$ write $v=(v^{(1)},ldots,v^{(n)})$, i.e. $v^{(k)}$ is the $k$-th component of $v$ for $k in {1,ldots,n}$.
As you suggest, we choose for some some $k in {1,ldots,n}$ a rational sequence $(r_i)_{i in mathbb{N}}$ such that $r_i$ converges to $v^{(k)}$ as $i to infty$. Now define $$u_i := (v^{(1)},ldots,v^{(k-1)},r_i, v^{(k+1)},ldots,v^{(n)})$$ for $i geq 1$. By construction, we have $f(u_i) geq 0$ for all $i$ and $u_i to v$ as $i to infty$.
Hint: Use the continuity of $f$ to conclude that $f(v) geq 0$. (How can you express $f(v)$ in terms of $f(u_i)$?)
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Does $v^{(k)}$ mean the $k^{text{th}}$ component of $v$?
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– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:02
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I am still unsure on how to finish
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– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:06
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@stackofhay42 Maybe the second part of my answer could help.
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– Holding Arthur
Mar 10 at 8:13
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@stackofhay42 Yes, it does denote the $k$-th component. Regarding your 2nd question: $f$ is (sequentially) continuous, so $x_k to x$ implies $f(x_k) to f(x)$, right?
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– saz
Mar 10 at 8:39
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Yes, I got this: $f(u_{i}) rightarrow f(v)$, but I do not see how to conclude ?
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– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:40
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show 3 more comments
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Let's try to prove a stronger result:
Theorem. Suppose $f : mathbb{R}^{n} rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is continuous and
$f(u) > 0$ if the point $u in mathbb{R}^{n}$ has all its components rational. Then $f(u) geq 0 $ for all $u in
mathbb{R}^{n}$.
Proof. Let $v=(v_1,v_2,...,v_n)inmathbb{R}^n$. Choose rational sequences ${x_{mk}}$ such that $lim_{kto infty}x_{mk}=v_m$, for all $m=1,2,...,n$. The sequence of points $x_k=(x_{1k},...,x_{nk})$. Please tell me if you want to know in details why such choice is possible.
Then $x_k to v$. Since $f$ is continuous, $f(x_k) to f(v)$. We know that $f(x_k)>0$ for all $k$. To show that $f(v)geq0$, suppose that $f(v)<0$. Then for all $k$, $|f(x_k)-f(v)|geq|f(v)|$. This is a contradiction, because for $f(x_k) to f(v)$, there should exist $k_0$ such that for any $kgeq k_0$, $|f(x_k)-f(v)|leq|f(v)|$. Here, we take $|f(v)|>0$ as the arbitrary number $epsilon>0$.
Note. The strict inequality becomes NOT strict after taking the limit. We can actually find examples to show that equality can hold in $f(u) geq 0 $.
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Hint: Every $uinBbb{R}^n$ is the limit of a sequence $(u_k)_k$ where each of the $u_k$ has at least one rational component, and hence $f(u)=lim_{ktoinfty}f(u_k)geq0$.
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For fixed $v in mathbb{R}^n$ write $v=(v^{(1)},ldots,v^{(n)})$, i.e. $v^{(k)}$ is the $k$-th component of $v$ for $k in {1,ldots,n}$.
As you suggest, we choose for some some $k in {1,ldots,n}$ a rational sequence $(r_i)_{i in mathbb{N}}$ such that $r_i$ converges to $v^{(k)}$ as $i to infty$. Now define $$u_i := (v^{(1)},ldots,v^{(k-1)},r_i, v^{(k+1)},ldots,v^{(n)})$$ for $i geq 1$. By construction, we have $f(u_i) geq 0$ for all $i$ and $u_i to v$ as $i to infty$.
Hint: Use the continuity of $f$ to conclude that $f(v) geq 0$. (How can you express $f(v)$ in terms of $f(u_i)$?)
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Does $v^{(k)}$ mean the $k^{text{th}}$ component of $v$?
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– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:02
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I am still unsure on how to finish
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– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:06
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@stackofhay42 Maybe the second part of my answer could help.
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– Holding Arthur
Mar 10 at 8:13
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@stackofhay42 Yes, it does denote the $k$-th component. Regarding your 2nd question: $f$ is (sequentially) continuous, so $x_k to x$ implies $f(x_k) to f(x)$, right?
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– saz
Mar 10 at 8:39
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Yes, I got this: $f(u_{i}) rightarrow f(v)$, but I do not see how to conclude ?
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– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:40
|
show 3 more comments
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For fixed $v in mathbb{R}^n$ write $v=(v^{(1)},ldots,v^{(n)})$, i.e. $v^{(k)}$ is the $k$-th component of $v$ for $k in {1,ldots,n}$.
As you suggest, we choose for some some $k in {1,ldots,n}$ a rational sequence $(r_i)_{i in mathbb{N}}$ such that $r_i$ converges to $v^{(k)}$ as $i to infty$. Now define $$u_i := (v^{(1)},ldots,v^{(k-1)},r_i, v^{(k+1)},ldots,v^{(n)})$$ for $i geq 1$. By construction, we have $f(u_i) geq 0$ for all $i$ and $u_i to v$ as $i to infty$.
Hint: Use the continuity of $f$ to conclude that $f(v) geq 0$. (How can you express $f(v)$ in terms of $f(u_i)$?)
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Does $v^{(k)}$ mean the $k^{text{th}}$ component of $v$?
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– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:02
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I am still unsure on how to finish
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– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:06
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@stackofhay42 Maybe the second part of my answer could help.
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– Holding Arthur
Mar 10 at 8:13
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@stackofhay42 Yes, it does denote the $k$-th component. Regarding your 2nd question: $f$ is (sequentially) continuous, so $x_k to x$ implies $f(x_k) to f(x)$, right?
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– saz
Mar 10 at 8:39
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Yes, I got this: $f(u_{i}) rightarrow f(v)$, but I do not see how to conclude ?
$endgroup$
– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:40
|
show 3 more comments
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For fixed $v in mathbb{R}^n$ write $v=(v^{(1)},ldots,v^{(n)})$, i.e. $v^{(k)}$ is the $k$-th component of $v$ for $k in {1,ldots,n}$.
As you suggest, we choose for some some $k in {1,ldots,n}$ a rational sequence $(r_i)_{i in mathbb{N}}$ such that $r_i$ converges to $v^{(k)}$ as $i to infty$. Now define $$u_i := (v^{(1)},ldots,v^{(k-1)},r_i, v^{(k+1)},ldots,v^{(n)})$$ for $i geq 1$. By construction, we have $f(u_i) geq 0$ for all $i$ and $u_i to v$ as $i to infty$.
Hint: Use the continuity of $f$ to conclude that $f(v) geq 0$. (How can you express $f(v)$ in terms of $f(u_i)$?)
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For fixed $v in mathbb{R}^n$ write $v=(v^{(1)},ldots,v^{(n)})$, i.e. $v^{(k)}$ is the $k$-th component of $v$ for $k in {1,ldots,n}$.
As you suggest, we choose for some some $k in {1,ldots,n}$ a rational sequence $(r_i)_{i in mathbb{N}}$ such that $r_i$ converges to $v^{(k)}$ as $i to infty$. Now define $$u_i := (v^{(1)},ldots,v^{(k-1)},r_i, v^{(k+1)},ldots,v^{(n)})$$ for $i geq 1$. By construction, we have $f(u_i) geq 0$ for all $i$ and $u_i to v$ as $i to infty$.
Hint: Use the continuity of $f$ to conclude that $f(v) geq 0$. (How can you express $f(v)$ in terms of $f(u_i)$?)
edited Mar 10 at 8:41
answered Mar 10 at 7:54
sazsaz
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Does $v^{(k)}$ mean the $k^{text{th}}$ component of $v$?
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– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:02
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I am still unsure on how to finish
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– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:06
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@stackofhay42 Maybe the second part of my answer could help.
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– Holding Arthur
Mar 10 at 8:13
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@stackofhay42 Yes, it does denote the $k$-th component. Regarding your 2nd question: $f$ is (sequentially) continuous, so $x_k to x$ implies $f(x_k) to f(x)$, right?
$endgroup$
– saz
Mar 10 at 8:39
$begingroup$
Yes, I got this: $f(u_{i}) rightarrow f(v)$, but I do not see how to conclude ?
$endgroup$
– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:40
|
show 3 more comments
$begingroup$
Does $v^{(k)}$ mean the $k^{text{th}}$ component of $v$?
$endgroup$
– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:02
$begingroup$
I am still unsure on how to finish
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– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:06
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@stackofhay42 Maybe the second part of my answer could help.
$endgroup$
– Holding Arthur
Mar 10 at 8:13
$begingroup$
@stackofhay42 Yes, it does denote the $k$-th component. Regarding your 2nd question: $f$ is (sequentially) continuous, so $x_k to x$ implies $f(x_k) to f(x)$, right?
$endgroup$
– saz
Mar 10 at 8:39
$begingroup$
Yes, I got this: $f(u_{i}) rightarrow f(v)$, but I do not see how to conclude ?
$endgroup$
– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:40
$begingroup$
Does $v^{(k)}$ mean the $k^{text{th}}$ component of $v$?
$endgroup$
– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:02
$begingroup$
Does $v^{(k)}$ mean the $k^{text{th}}$ component of $v$?
$endgroup$
– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:02
$begingroup$
I am still unsure on how to finish
$endgroup$
– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:06
$begingroup$
I am still unsure on how to finish
$endgroup$
– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:06
$begingroup$
@stackofhay42 Maybe the second part of my answer could help.
$endgroup$
– Holding Arthur
Mar 10 at 8:13
$begingroup$
@stackofhay42 Maybe the second part of my answer could help.
$endgroup$
– Holding Arthur
Mar 10 at 8:13
$begingroup$
@stackofhay42 Yes, it does denote the $k$-th component. Regarding your 2nd question: $f$ is (sequentially) continuous, so $x_k to x$ implies $f(x_k) to f(x)$, right?
$endgroup$
– saz
Mar 10 at 8:39
$begingroup$
@stackofhay42 Yes, it does denote the $k$-th component. Regarding your 2nd question: $f$ is (sequentially) continuous, so $x_k to x$ implies $f(x_k) to f(x)$, right?
$endgroup$
– saz
Mar 10 at 8:39
$begingroup$
Yes, I got this: $f(u_{i}) rightarrow f(v)$, but I do not see how to conclude ?
$endgroup$
– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:40
$begingroup$
Yes, I got this: $f(u_{i}) rightarrow f(v)$, but I do not see how to conclude ?
$endgroup$
– user651921
Mar 10 at 8:40
|
show 3 more comments
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Let's try to prove a stronger result:
Theorem. Suppose $f : mathbb{R}^{n} rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is continuous and
$f(u) > 0$ if the point $u in mathbb{R}^{n}$ has all its components rational. Then $f(u) geq 0 $ for all $u in
mathbb{R}^{n}$.
Proof. Let $v=(v_1,v_2,...,v_n)inmathbb{R}^n$. Choose rational sequences ${x_{mk}}$ such that $lim_{kto infty}x_{mk}=v_m$, for all $m=1,2,...,n$. The sequence of points $x_k=(x_{1k},...,x_{nk})$. Please tell me if you want to know in details why such choice is possible.
Then $x_k to v$. Since $f$ is continuous, $f(x_k) to f(v)$. We know that $f(x_k)>0$ for all $k$. To show that $f(v)geq0$, suppose that $f(v)<0$. Then for all $k$, $|f(x_k)-f(v)|geq|f(v)|$. This is a contradiction, because for $f(x_k) to f(v)$, there should exist $k_0$ such that for any $kgeq k_0$, $|f(x_k)-f(v)|leq|f(v)|$. Here, we take $|f(v)|>0$ as the arbitrary number $epsilon>0$.
Note. The strict inequality becomes NOT strict after taking the limit. We can actually find examples to show that equality can hold in $f(u) geq 0 $.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Let's try to prove a stronger result:
Theorem. Suppose $f : mathbb{R}^{n} rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is continuous and
$f(u) > 0$ if the point $u in mathbb{R}^{n}$ has all its components rational. Then $f(u) geq 0 $ for all $u in
mathbb{R}^{n}$.
Proof. Let $v=(v_1,v_2,...,v_n)inmathbb{R}^n$. Choose rational sequences ${x_{mk}}$ such that $lim_{kto infty}x_{mk}=v_m$, for all $m=1,2,...,n$. The sequence of points $x_k=(x_{1k},...,x_{nk})$. Please tell me if you want to know in details why such choice is possible.
Then $x_k to v$. Since $f$ is continuous, $f(x_k) to f(v)$. We know that $f(x_k)>0$ for all $k$. To show that $f(v)geq0$, suppose that $f(v)<0$. Then for all $k$, $|f(x_k)-f(v)|geq|f(v)|$. This is a contradiction, because for $f(x_k) to f(v)$, there should exist $k_0$ such that for any $kgeq k_0$, $|f(x_k)-f(v)|leq|f(v)|$. Here, we take $|f(v)|>0$ as the arbitrary number $epsilon>0$.
Note. The strict inequality becomes NOT strict after taking the limit. We can actually find examples to show that equality can hold in $f(u) geq 0 $.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Let's try to prove a stronger result:
Theorem. Suppose $f : mathbb{R}^{n} rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is continuous and
$f(u) > 0$ if the point $u in mathbb{R}^{n}$ has all its components rational. Then $f(u) geq 0 $ for all $u in
mathbb{R}^{n}$.
Proof. Let $v=(v_1,v_2,...,v_n)inmathbb{R}^n$. Choose rational sequences ${x_{mk}}$ such that $lim_{kto infty}x_{mk}=v_m$, for all $m=1,2,...,n$. The sequence of points $x_k=(x_{1k},...,x_{nk})$. Please tell me if you want to know in details why such choice is possible.
Then $x_k to v$. Since $f$ is continuous, $f(x_k) to f(v)$. We know that $f(x_k)>0$ for all $k$. To show that $f(v)geq0$, suppose that $f(v)<0$. Then for all $k$, $|f(x_k)-f(v)|geq|f(v)|$. This is a contradiction, because for $f(x_k) to f(v)$, there should exist $k_0$ such that for any $kgeq k_0$, $|f(x_k)-f(v)|leq|f(v)|$. Here, we take $|f(v)|>0$ as the arbitrary number $epsilon>0$.
Note. The strict inequality becomes NOT strict after taking the limit. We can actually find examples to show that equality can hold in $f(u) geq 0 $.
$endgroup$
Let's try to prove a stronger result:
Theorem. Suppose $f : mathbb{R}^{n} rightarrow mathbb{R}$ is continuous and
$f(u) > 0$ if the point $u in mathbb{R}^{n}$ has all its components rational. Then $f(u) geq 0 $ for all $u in
mathbb{R}^{n}$.
Proof. Let $v=(v_1,v_2,...,v_n)inmathbb{R}^n$. Choose rational sequences ${x_{mk}}$ such that $lim_{kto infty}x_{mk}=v_m$, for all $m=1,2,...,n$. The sequence of points $x_k=(x_{1k},...,x_{nk})$. Please tell me if you want to know in details why such choice is possible.
Then $x_k to v$. Since $f$ is continuous, $f(x_k) to f(v)$. We know that $f(x_k)>0$ for all $k$. To show that $f(v)geq0$, suppose that $f(v)<0$. Then for all $k$, $|f(x_k)-f(v)|geq|f(v)|$. This is a contradiction, because for $f(x_k) to f(v)$, there should exist $k_0$ such that for any $kgeq k_0$, $|f(x_k)-f(v)|leq|f(v)|$. Here, we take $|f(v)|>0$ as the arbitrary number $epsilon>0$.
Note. The strict inequality becomes NOT strict after taking the limit. We can actually find examples to show that equality can hold in $f(u) geq 0 $.
answered Mar 10 at 7:50
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Hint: Every $uinBbb{R}^n$ is the limit of a sequence $(u_k)_k$ where each of the $u_k$ has at least one rational component, and hence $f(u)=lim_{ktoinfty}f(u_k)geq0$.
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Hint: Every $uinBbb{R}^n$ is the limit of a sequence $(u_k)_k$ where each of the $u_k$ has at least one rational component, and hence $f(u)=lim_{ktoinfty}f(u_k)geq0$.
$endgroup$
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$begingroup$
Hint: Every $uinBbb{R}^n$ is the limit of a sequence $(u_k)_k$ where each of the $u_k$ has at least one rational component, and hence $f(u)=lim_{ktoinfty}f(u_k)geq0$.
$endgroup$
Hint: Every $uinBbb{R}^n$ is the limit of a sequence $(u_k)_k$ where each of the $u_k$ has at least one rational component, and hence $f(u)=lim_{ktoinfty}f(u_k)geq0$.
answered Mar 10 at 11:03
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