Integrating an equation of constants raised to a common variable











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Solving the integration problem:



$$int frac{4^x-5^x}{7^x} , dx$$



Not sure how to solve this problem, I don't see a way to incorporate integration by parts into this problem or even some kind of substitution.



Seems that taking the natural log of each element will help to simplify the equation but I don't think it is valid mathematically.










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  • Note that $d(a^x)/dx = a^x {rm ln} a$. This should set you on your way.
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  • Another hint is to note that $4^x = e^{x{rm ln} 4$.
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Solving the integration problem:



$$int frac{4^x-5^x}{7^x} , dx$$



Not sure how to solve this problem, I don't see a way to incorporate integration by parts into this problem or even some kind of substitution.



Seems that taking the natural log of each element will help to simplify the equation but I don't think it is valid mathematically.










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  • Note that $d(a^x)/dx = a^x {rm ln} a$. This should set you on your way.
    – Lucozade
    Nov 14 at 16:39










  • Another hint is to note that $4^x = e^{x{rm ln} 4$.
    – Lucozade
    Nov 14 at 16:42













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Solving the integration problem:



$$int frac{4^x-5^x}{7^x} , dx$$



Not sure how to solve this problem, I don't see a way to incorporate integration by parts into this problem or even some kind of substitution.



Seems that taking the natural log of each element will help to simplify the equation but I don't think it is valid mathematically.










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Solving the integration problem:



$$int frac{4^x-5^x}{7^x} , dx$$



Not sure how to solve this problem, I don't see a way to incorporate integration by parts into this problem or even some kind of substitution.



Seems that taking the natural log of each element will help to simplify the equation but I don't think it is valid mathematically.







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  • Note that $d(a^x)/dx = a^x {rm ln} a$. This should set you on your way.
    – Lucozade
    Nov 14 at 16:39










  • Another hint is to note that $4^x = e^{x{rm ln} 4$.
    – Lucozade
    Nov 14 at 16:42


















  • Note that $d(a^x)/dx = a^x {rm ln} a$. This should set you on your way.
    – Lucozade
    Nov 14 at 16:39










  • Another hint is to note that $4^x = e^{x{rm ln} 4$.
    – Lucozade
    Nov 14 at 16:42
















Note that $d(a^x)/dx = a^x {rm ln} a$. This should set you on your way.
– Lucozade
Nov 14 at 16:39




Note that $d(a^x)/dx = a^x {rm ln} a$. This should set you on your way.
– Lucozade
Nov 14 at 16:39












Another hint is to note that $4^x = e^{x{rm ln} 4$.
– Lucozade
Nov 14 at 16:42




Another hint is to note that $4^x = e^{x{rm ln} 4$.
– Lucozade
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HINT:
$$frac{4^x-5^x}{7^x}=left(frac47right)^x-left(frac57right)^x,$$
and you have the formula (by putting $a=4/7$ and $5/7$)
$$int a^x~mathrm dx=?$$






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  • @YinGroen: $$int a^x~mathrm dxne int x^a~mathrm dx.$$
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$$I=intfrac{a^x-b^x}{c^x}dx$$
$$I=intfrac{a^x}{c^x}dx-intfrac{b^x}{c^x}dx$$
$$I=int bigg(frac acbigg)^xdx-intbigg(frac bcbigg)^xdx$$
Each integral is in the form
$$G(k)=int k^xdx$$
$$G(k)=int e^{xlog k}dx$$
Substitute $u=xlog k$, which gives
$$G(k)=frac1{log k}int e^udu$$
$$G(k)=frac1{log k}e^{xlog k}$$
$$G(k)=frac1{log k}k^{x}+C$$
Thus
$$I=Gbigg(frac acbigg)-Gbigg(frac bcbigg)+C$$



Keep in mind $log(cdot)$ denotes the natural logarithm.






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    HINT:
    $$frac{4^x-5^x}{7^x}=left(frac47right)^x-left(frac57right)^x,$$
    and you have the formula (by putting $a=4/7$ and $5/7$)
    $$int a^x~mathrm dx=?$$






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    • @YinGroen: $$int a^x~mathrm dxne int x^a~mathrm dx.$$
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    HINT:
    $$frac{4^x-5^x}{7^x}=left(frac47right)^x-left(frac57right)^x,$$
    and you have the formula (by putting $a=4/7$ and $5/7$)
    $$int a^x~mathrm dx=?$$






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    • @YinGroen: $$int a^x~mathrm dxne int x^a~mathrm dx.$$
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      Nov 14 at 17:05













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    HINT:
    $$frac{4^x-5^x}{7^x}=left(frac47right)^x-left(frac57right)^x,$$
    and you have the formula (by putting $a=4/7$ and $5/7$)
    $$int a^x~mathrm dx=?$$






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    HINT:
    $$frac{4^x-5^x}{7^x}=left(frac47right)^x-left(frac57right)^x,$$
    and you have the formula (by putting $a=4/7$ and $5/7$)
    $$int a^x~mathrm dx=?$$







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    • @YinGroen: $$int a^x~mathrm dxne int x^a~mathrm dx.$$
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      Nov 14 at 17:05


















    • @YinGroen: $$int a^x~mathrm dxne int x^a~mathrm dx.$$
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      Nov 14 at 17:05
















    @YinGroen: $$int a^x~mathrm dxne int x^a~mathrm dx.$$
    – Tianlalu
    Nov 14 at 17:05




    @YinGroen: $$int a^x~mathrm dxne int x^a~mathrm dx.$$
    – Tianlalu
    Nov 14 at 17:05










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    $$I=intfrac{a^x-b^x}{c^x}dx$$
    $$I=intfrac{a^x}{c^x}dx-intfrac{b^x}{c^x}dx$$
    $$I=int bigg(frac acbigg)^xdx-intbigg(frac bcbigg)^xdx$$
    Each integral is in the form
    $$G(k)=int k^xdx$$
    $$G(k)=int e^{xlog k}dx$$
    Substitute $u=xlog k$, which gives
    $$G(k)=frac1{log k}int e^udu$$
    $$G(k)=frac1{log k}e^{xlog k}$$
    $$G(k)=frac1{log k}k^{x}+C$$
    Thus
    $$I=Gbigg(frac acbigg)-Gbigg(frac bcbigg)+C$$



    Keep in mind $log(cdot)$ denotes the natural logarithm.






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      $$I=intfrac{a^x-b^x}{c^x}dx$$
      $$I=intfrac{a^x}{c^x}dx-intfrac{b^x}{c^x}dx$$
      $$I=int bigg(frac acbigg)^xdx-intbigg(frac bcbigg)^xdx$$
      Each integral is in the form
      $$G(k)=int k^xdx$$
      $$G(k)=int e^{xlog k}dx$$
      Substitute $u=xlog k$, which gives
      $$G(k)=frac1{log k}int e^udu$$
      $$G(k)=frac1{log k}e^{xlog k}$$
      $$G(k)=frac1{log k}k^{x}+C$$
      Thus
      $$I=Gbigg(frac acbigg)-Gbigg(frac bcbigg)+C$$



      Keep in mind $log(cdot)$ denotes the natural logarithm.






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        $$I=intfrac{a^x-b^x}{c^x}dx$$
        $$I=intfrac{a^x}{c^x}dx-intfrac{b^x}{c^x}dx$$
        $$I=int bigg(frac acbigg)^xdx-intbigg(frac bcbigg)^xdx$$
        Each integral is in the form
        $$G(k)=int k^xdx$$
        $$G(k)=int e^{xlog k}dx$$
        Substitute $u=xlog k$, which gives
        $$G(k)=frac1{log k}int e^udu$$
        $$G(k)=frac1{log k}e^{xlog k}$$
        $$G(k)=frac1{log k}k^{x}+C$$
        Thus
        $$I=Gbigg(frac acbigg)-Gbigg(frac bcbigg)+C$$



        Keep in mind $log(cdot)$ denotes the natural logarithm.






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        $$I=intfrac{a^x-b^x}{c^x}dx$$
        $$I=intfrac{a^x}{c^x}dx-intfrac{b^x}{c^x}dx$$
        $$I=int bigg(frac acbigg)^xdx-intbigg(frac bcbigg)^xdx$$
        Each integral is in the form
        $$G(k)=int k^xdx$$
        $$G(k)=int e^{xlog k}dx$$
        Substitute $u=xlog k$, which gives
        $$G(k)=frac1{log k}int e^udu$$
        $$G(k)=frac1{log k}e^{xlog k}$$
        $$G(k)=frac1{log k}k^{x}+C$$
        Thus
        $$I=Gbigg(frac acbigg)-Gbigg(frac bcbigg)+C$$



        Keep in mind $log(cdot)$ denotes the natural logarithm.







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