How do I sort a values with letters and numbers?
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I have a column with values like these
A1
A-3 // reads: A (minus 3)
J24
J-2
A24
...
Now I want to sort them first by the leading letter. Then by the following number. But Excel reads the minus as dash and sorts it like that
A1
A2
A3
..
A-1
There are special occasions with trailing letters
F2B
F-2B
What I want my A-Z sorting to look like
A-3
A-2
A-1
A0
A1
..
Z-3
Z-2
Z-1
Z0
Z1
Z2
..
Is there a way to solve this without VBA?
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I have a column with values like these
A1
A-3 // reads: A (minus 3)
J24
J-2
A24
...
Now I want to sort them first by the leading letter. Then by the following number. But Excel reads the minus as dash and sorts it like that
A1
A2
A3
..
A-1
There are special occasions with trailing letters
F2B
F-2B
What I want my A-Z sorting to look like
A-3
A-2
A-1
A0
A1
..
Z-3
Z-2
Z-1
Z0
Z1
Z2
..
Is there a way to solve this without VBA?
microsoft-excel microsoft-excel-2016 sorting
1
Is it always one letter then a positive or negative number then zero or one letter ?
– Stormweaker
Mar 7 at 13:04
1
Care to comment on where the data with trailing letters should be sorted?
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 1:02
Could you post the real order since I've almost solve it but I just wanna to compare with your original list.
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 7:53
add a comment |
I have a column with values like these
A1
A-3 // reads: A (minus 3)
J24
J-2
A24
...
Now I want to sort them first by the leading letter. Then by the following number. But Excel reads the minus as dash and sorts it like that
A1
A2
A3
..
A-1
There are special occasions with trailing letters
F2B
F-2B
What I want my A-Z sorting to look like
A-3
A-2
A-1
A0
A1
..
Z-3
Z-2
Z-1
Z0
Z1
Z2
..
Is there a way to solve this without VBA?
microsoft-excel microsoft-excel-2016 sorting
I have a column with values like these
A1
A-3 // reads: A (minus 3)
J24
J-2
A24
...
Now I want to sort them first by the leading letter. Then by the following number. But Excel reads the minus as dash and sorts it like that
A1
A2
A3
..
A-1
There are special occasions with trailing letters
F2B
F-2B
What I want my A-Z sorting to look like
A-3
A-2
A-1
A0
A1
..
Z-3
Z-2
Z-1
Z0
Z1
Z2
..
Is there a way to solve this without VBA?
microsoft-excel microsoft-excel-2016 sorting
microsoft-excel microsoft-excel-2016 sorting
edited Mar 7 at 9:21
asked Mar 7 at 8:24
user1005339
1
Is it always one letter then a positive or negative number then zero or one letter ?
– Stormweaker
Mar 7 at 13:04
1
Care to comment on where the data with trailing letters should be sorted?
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 1:02
Could you post the real order since I've almost solve it but I just wanna to compare with your original list.
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 7:53
add a comment |
1
Is it always one letter then a positive or negative number then zero or one letter ?
– Stormweaker
Mar 7 at 13:04
1
Care to comment on where the data with trailing letters should be sorted?
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 1:02
Could you post the real order since I've almost solve it but I just wanna to compare with your original list.
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 7:53
1
1
Is it always one letter then a positive or negative number then zero or one letter ?
– Stormweaker
Mar 7 at 13:04
Is it always one letter then a positive or negative number then zero or one letter ?
– Stormweaker
Mar 7 at 13:04
1
1
Care to comment on where the data with trailing letters should be sorted?
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 1:02
Care to comment on where the data with trailing letters should be sorted?
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 1:02
Could you post the real order since I've almost solve it but I just wanna to compare with your original list.
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 7:53
Could you post the real order since I've almost solve it but I just wanna to compare with your original list.
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 7:53
add a comment |
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You can split your value x into three parts:
- the prefix part
=LEFT(x)
- the others
=RIGHT(x, LEN(x)-1), which is referred asybelow, and contains
- the number part
=IFERROR(VALUE(y), VALUE(LEFT(y, LEN(y)-1)))and - the suffix part
=RIGHT(y, LEN(y)-LEN(number_part)))
- the number part
and then just sort them together.
You have almost solve it,,, but one step behind to get the correct sequence.
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 10:43
@RajeshS Oh sorry I didn't see that part. Answer updated to consider the suffix.
– Arnie97
Mar 8 at 11:07
,, no Previous two Helper Col Prefix and Number are enough to Sort, but you have not shown the the Order & Sequence to Sort the Column to get Result .
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 11:14
@RajeshS No, the built-in sort method will put for example -3, -2B and 1B in a wrong order.
– Arnie97
Mar 8 at 11:21
add a comment |
Sample Excel Implementation Based on Algorithm Below
You can break your strings apart to individual components and custom sort them, but without the column format specifications, only a guess can be provided.
First, setup your spreadsheet like below (column names aren't needed, but were added to line up with the sort dialog). Note that this example assumes your string can have up to 6 characters.

Copy the formulas as follows:
=MID(A2, 1, 1)into column B2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 3, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 3, 1)), MID(A2, 2, 1))into column C2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 4, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 4, 1)), MID(A2, 3, 1))into column D2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 5, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 5, 1)), MID(A2, 4, 1))into column E2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 6, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 6, 1)), MID(A2, 5, 1))into column F2.- Select columns B2 through F2 and copy the formulas down to the last row. Your result should look similar to the screen shot above.
- Select columns A1 to F10, right-click, select Sort, and then Custom Sort.... This popup will appear.

I used a custom list to specify my sort order which is shown below. Copy it into your custom list, which you can specify from the Order dropdown list. Now sort the columns as in the image and select OK to sort. You may be prompted with a Sort Warning, and I chose "Sort numbers and numbers stored as text separately" (not sure if it matters).
-9,-8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,-0,-Z,-Y,-X,-W,-V,-U,-T,-S,-R,-Q,-P,-O,-N,-M,-L,-K,-J,-I,-H,-G,-F,-E,-D,-C,-B,-A,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
Here is my end result. Some observations:
- Minus values come before non-minus values.
- For minus values, larger numbers come before smaller numbers (e.g. J-24 and J-2)
- For non-minus values, larger numbers come after smaller numbers (e.g. A1 and A24).
- Note that the sort list customizations in the algorithm below can be customized to re-order the values in any order as needed.

Explanation of Excel Functions
To separate the first character, I used the formula
=MID(A2, 1, 1)
To extract subsequent characters, I used the formula:
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, N, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, N, 1)), MID(A2, N-1, 1))`
Where character `N` applies to characters 3, 4, 5, and 6. The `Else` part of the first `IF` function will take care of character 2 for a non-minus sort.
In pseudocode, the formula does this:
If character 2 is a minus then prep our current character N for sorting
If character N is blank then
Return a blank because we have no character to sort by
Else
Return a "-" prepended to character N
(e.g. `-5`, `-B`, which is understood by custom sort list)
End If
Else character 2 is not a minus
Return character N-1 for sorting
(-1 because minus doesn't exist for non-minus values)
End If
Algorithm with Assumptions
I used a combination of the MID and IF functions to break the string into parts and then applied a custom sort to achieve the end result. I have taken some liberties by making the following assumptions:
- The first column is treated separately from the remainder of the string and is always sorted first in ascending alpha order (e.g.
A, B, Y, Z). - For columns 2 to the end, values with a minus
-are sorted to come before values without one (e.g.-24B, -24A, -2B, -2A, -1, 1, 2A, 2B, 24A, 24B, in that order). Additionally:
- For values with a preceding minus
-, sort order is descending numeric and descending alpha, but with numeric coming before alpha. Examples:
- Descending numeric:
-24comes before-2, so-24Acomes before-2A. - Descending alpha:
Bcomes beforeAwithBandAtreated like-Band-A, respectively, so-2Bcomes before-2A. - Numeric before alpha:
4comes beforeB, so-24Bcomes before-2B.
- Descending numeric:
- For values without a preceding minus, sort order is ascending numeric and ascending alpha, but with alpha coming before numeric. Examples:
- Ascending numeric:
2comes before24, so2Acomes before24A. - Ascending alpha:
Acomes beforeB, so2Acomes before2B. - Alpha before numeric:
Acomes before4, so2Acomes before24A.
- Ascending numeric:
- For values with a preceding minus
The rules can vary widely depending on how your column is formatted.
Custom Sort List
The sorting is outlined in the custom sort list in the order shown below. Negative numeric and alpha characters are listed descending with numeric coming before alpha. Positive numeric and alpha characters are listed ascending with alpha coming before numeric.
-9,-8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,-0,-Z,-Y,-X,-W,-V,-U,-T,-S,-R,-Q,-P,-O,-N,-M,-L,-K,-J,-I,-H,-G,-F,-E,-D,-C,-B,-A,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
Note that the sort list can be ordered in any way desired to achieve the preferred results. Here are some examples.
- Re-order
-Z to -Aas-A to -Zif you want ascending minus alpha order (e.g.A-2Acomes beforeA-2B). - Move
-9 to -0after-Z to -Ato get minus alpha before numeric (e.g.J-2Fcomes beforeJ-24). - Move
0to9beforeAtoZto get non-minus numeric before alpha (e.g.F21comes beforeF2A).
This custom sort list is applied to each character individually starting from the left column to the right column to achieve the final sorted result.
Cool answer. Welcome to Super User. I took care of the images for you.
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 1:03
This does not give the correct result for the sample data in the question. I don’t know whether to congratulate you for constructing a data set for which your solution works, but the answer is wrong.
– Scott
Mar 8 at 2:18
@AlexM, thanks!
– user9525052
Mar 8 at 15:20
@Scott I think you're assuming facts not in evidence. To the extent that OP defined the desired sort, this answer suits it, as far as I can see.
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 18:10
@Scott. Good catch. I overlooked the part where the numbers were descending in the minus sort. Unfortunately, the OP hasn't provided the column format specification, so I had to make some assumptions. The algorithm ended up being more complex, but I think it's flexible enough to achieve the desired sort order.
– user9525052
Mar 8 at 19:38
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Your issue can be solved using few Helper Columns:

How it works:
- Unsorted Data Range is
B2:B13. - Formula in
C2.
=Left(B2,1), fill it down. - Formula in
D2.=VALUE(RIGHT(B2,LEN(B2)-1)),fill it down. - Select Data to Sort.
- From HOME Tab click Sort Icon and
select Custom Sort. - Set
Column,Sort ON&Orderas shown in
Screen Shot, finish with Ok. - Finally from Sort Warning Dialogue select
Second Option& hit Ok to finish.
N.B.
- I've included original order of unsorted data
in Column A (in Red Color) to Compare with
Sorted Data. - You may hide both Helper Columns after Data
been Sorted. - Adjust cell references in Formula as needed.
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You can split your value x into three parts:
- the prefix part
=LEFT(x)
- the others
=RIGHT(x, LEN(x)-1), which is referred asybelow, and contains
- the number part
=IFERROR(VALUE(y), VALUE(LEFT(y, LEN(y)-1)))and - the suffix part
=RIGHT(y, LEN(y)-LEN(number_part)))
- the number part
and then just sort them together.
You have almost solve it,,, but one step behind to get the correct sequence.
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 10:43
@RajeshS Oh sorry I didn't see that part. Answer updated to consider the suffix.
– Arnie97
Mar 8 at 11:07
,, no Previous two Helper Col Prefix and Number are enough to Sort, but you have not shown the the Order & Sequence to Sort the Column to get Result .
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 11:14
@RajeshS No, the built-in sort method will put for example -3, -2B and 1B in a wrong order.
– Arnie97
Mar 8 at 11:21
add a comment |

You can split your value x into three parts:
- the prefix part
=LEFT(x)
- the others
=RIGHT(x, LEN(x)-1), which is referred asybelow, and contains
- the number part
=IFERROR(VALUE(y), VALUE(LEFT(y, LEN(y)-1)))and - the suffix part
=RIGHT(y, LEN(y)-LEN(number_part)))
- the number part
and then just sort them together.
You have almost solve it,,, but one step behind to get the correct sequence.
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 10:43
@RajeshS Oh sorry I didn't see that part. Answer updated to consider the suffix.
– Arnie97
Mar 8 at 11:07
,, no Previous two Helper Col Prefix and Number are enough to Sort, but you have not shown the the Order & Sequence to Sort the Column to get Result .
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 11:14
@RajeshS No, the built-in sort method will put for example -3, -2B and 1B in a wrong order.
– Arnie97
Mar 8 at 11:21
add a comment |

You can split your value x into three parts:
- the prefix part
=LEFT(x)
- the others
=RIGHT(x, LEN(x)-1), which is referred asybelow, and contains
- the number part
=IFERROR(VALUE(y), VALUE(LEFT(y, LEN(y)-1)))and - the suffix part
=RIGHT(y, LEN(y)-LEN(number_part)))
- the number part
and then just sort them together.

You can split your value x into three parts:
- the prefix part
=LEFT(x)
- the others
=RIGHT(x, LEN(x)-1), which is referred asybelow, and contains
- the number part
=IFERROR(VALUE(y), VALUE(LEFT(y, LEN(y)-1)))and - the suffix part
=RIGHT(y, LEN(y)-LEN(number_part)))
- the number part
and then just sort them together.
edited Mar 8 at 11:13
answered Mar 8 at 10:11
Arnie97Arnie97
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You have almost solve it,,, but one step behind to get the correct sequence.
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 10:43
@RajeshS Oh sorry I didn't see that part. Answer updated to consider the suffix.
– Arnie97
Mar 8 at 11:07
,, no Previous two Helper Col Prefix and Number are enough to Sort, but you have not shown the the Order & Sequence to Sort the Column to get Result .
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 11:14
@RajeshS No, the built-in sort method will put for example -3, -2B and 1B in a wrong order.
– Arnie97
Mar 8 at 11:21
add a comment |
You have almost solve it,,, but one step behind to get the correct sequence.
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 10:43
@RajeshS Oh sorry I didn't see that part. Answer updated to consider the suffix.
– Arnie97
Mar 8 at 11:07
,, no Previous two Helper Col Prefix and Number are enough to Sort, but you have not shown the the Order & Sequence to Sort the Column to get Result .
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 11:14
@RajeshS No, the built-in sort method will put for example -3, -2B and 1B in a wrong order.
– Arnie97
Mar 8 at 11:21
You have almost solve it,,, but one step behind to get the correct sequence.
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 10:43
You have almost solve it,,, but one step behind to get the correct sequence.
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 10:43
@RajeshS Oh sorry I didn't see that part. Answer updated to consider the suffix.
– Arnie97
Mar 8 at 11:07
@RajeshS Oh sorry I didn't see that part. Answer updated to consider the suffix.
– Arnie97
Mar 8 at 11:07
,, no Previous two Helper Col Prefix and Number are enough to Sort, but you have not shown the the Order & Sequence to Sort the Column to get Result .
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 11:14
,, no Previous two Helper Col Prefix and Number are enough to Sort, but you have not shown the the Order & Sequence to Sort the Column to get Result .
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 11:14
@RajeshS No, the built-in sort method will put for example -3, -2B and 1B in a wrong order.
– Arnie97
Mar 8 at 11:21
@RajeshS No, the built-in sort method will put for example -3, -2B and 1B in a wrong order.
– Arnie97
Mar 8 at 11:21
add a comment |
Sample Excel Implementation Based on Algorithm Below
You can break your strings apart to individual components and custom sort them, but without the column format specifications, only a guess can be provided.
First, setup your spreadsheet like below (column names aren't needed, but were added to line up with the sort dialog). Note that this example assumes your string can have up to 6 characters.

Copy the formulas as follows:
=MID(A2, 1, 1)into column B2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 3, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 3, 1)), MID(A2, 2, 1))into column C2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 4, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 4, 1)), MID(A2, 3, 1))into column D2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 5, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 5, 1)), MID(A2, 4, 1))into column E2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 6, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 6, 1)), MID(A2, 5, 1))into column F2.- Select columns B2 through F2 and copy the formulas down to the last row. Your result should look similar to the screen shot above.
- Select columns A1 to F10, right-click, select Sort, and then Custom Sort.... This popup will appear.

I used a custom list to specify my sort order which is shown below. Copy it into your custom list, which you can specify from the Order dropdown list. Now sort the columns as in the image and select OK to sort. You may be prompted with a Sort Warning, and I chose "Sort numbers and numbers stored as text separately" (not sure if it matters).
-9,-8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,-0,-Z,-Y,-X,-W,-V,-U,-T,-S,-R,-Q,-P,-O,-N,-M,-L,-K,-J,-I,-H,-G,-F,-E,-D,-C,-B,-A,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
Here is my end result. Some observations:
- Minus values come before non-minus values.
- For minus values, larger numbers come before smaller numbers (e.g. J-24 and J-2)
- For non-minus values, larger numbers come after smaller numbers (e.g. A1 and A24).
- Note that the sort list customizations in the algorithm below can be customized to re-order the values in any order as needed.

Explanation of Excel Functions
To separate the first character, I used the formula
=MID(A2, 1, 1)
To extract subsequent characters, I used the formula:
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, N, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, N, 1)), MID(A2, N-1, 1))`
Where character `N` applies to characters 3, 4, 5, and 6. The `Else` part of the first `IF` function will take care of character 2 for a non-minus sort.
In pseudocode, the formula does this:
If character 2 is a minus then prep our current character N for sorting
If character N is blank then
Return a blank because we have no character to sort by
Else
Return a "-" prepended to character N
(e.g. `-5`, `-B`, which is understood by custom sort list)
End If
Else character 2 is not a minus
Return character N-1 for sorting
(-1 because minus doesn't exist for non-minus values)
End If
Algorithm with Assumptions
I used a combination of the MID and IF functions to break the string into parts and then applied a custom sort to achieve the end result. I have taken some liberties by making the following assumptions:
- The first column is treated separately from the remainder of the string and is always sorted first in ascending alpha order (e.g.
A, B, Y, Z). - For columns 2 to the end, values with a minus
-are sorted to come before values without one (e.g.-24B, -24A, -2B, -2A, -1, 1, 2A, 2B, 24A, 24B, in that order). Additionally:
- For values with a preceding minus
-, sort order is descending numeric and descending alpha, but with numeric coming before alpha. Examples:
- Descending numeric:
-24comes before-2, so-24Acomes before-2A. - Descending alpha:
Bcomes beforeAwithBandAtreated like-Band-A, respectively, so-2Bcomes before-2A. - Numeric before alpha:
4comes beforeB, so-24Bcomes before-2B.
- Descending numeric:
- For values without a preceding minus, sort order is ascending numeric and ascending alpha, but with alpha coming before numeric. Examples:
- Ascending numeric:
2comes before24, so2Acomes before24A. - Ascending alpha:
Acomes beforeB, so2Acomes before2B. - Alpha before numeric:
Acomes before4, so2Acomes before24A.
- Ascending numeric:
- For values with a preceding minus
The rules can vary widely depending on how your column is formatted.
Custom Sort List
The sorting is outlined in the custom sort list in the order shown below. Negative numeric and alpha characters are listed descending with numeric coming before alpha. Positive numeric and alpha characters are listed ascending with alpha coming before numeric.
-9,-8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,-0,-Z,-Y,-X,-W,-V,-U,-T,-S,-R,-Q,-P,-O,-N,-M,-L,-K,-J,-I,-H,-G,-F,-E,-D,-C,-B,-A,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
Note that the sort list can be ordered in any way desired to achieve the preferred results. Here are some examples.
- Re-order
-Z to -Aas-A to -Zif you want ascending minus alpha order (e.g.A-2Acomes beforeA-2B). - Move
-9 to -0after-Z to -Ato get minus alpha before numeric (e.g.J-2Fcomes beforeJ-24). - Move
0to9beforeAtoZto get non-minus numeric before alpha (e.g.F21comes beforeF2A).
This custom sort list is applied to each character individually starting from the left column to the right column to achieve the final sorted result.
Cool answer. Welcome to Super User. I took care of the images for you.
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 1:03
This does not give the correct result for the sample data in the question. I don’t know whether to congratulate you for constructing a data set for which your solution works, but the answer is wrong.
– Scott
Mar 8 at 2:18
@AlexM, thanks!
– user9525052
Mar 8 at 15:20
@Scott I think you're assuming facts not in evidence. To the extent that OP defined the desired sort, this answer suits it, as far as I can see.
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 18:10
@Scott. Good catch. I overlooked the part where the numbers were descending in the minus sort. Unfortunately, the OP hasn't provided the column format specification, so I had to make some assumptions. The algorithm ended up being more complex, but I think it's flexible enough to achieve the desired sort order.
– user9525052
Mar 8 at 19:38
add a comment |
Sample Excel Implementation Based on Algorithm Below
You can break your strings apart to individual components and custom sort them, but without the column format specifications, only a guess can be provided.
First, setup your spreadsheet like below (column names aren't needed, but were added to line up with the sort dialog). Note that this example assumes your string can have up to 6 characters.

Copy the formulas as follows:
=MID(A2, 1, 1)into column B2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 3, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 3, 1)), MID(A2, 2, 1))into column C2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 4, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 4, 1)), MID(A2, 3, 1))into column D2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 5, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 5, 1)), MID(A2, 4, 1))into column E2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 6, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 6, 1)), MID(A2, 5, 1))into column F2.- Select columns B2 through F2 and copy the formulas down to the last row. Your result should look similar to the screen shot above.
- Select columns A1 to F10, right-click, select Sort, and then Custom Sort.... This popup will appear.

I used a custom list to specify my sort order which is shown below. Copy it into your custom list, which you can specify from the Order dropdown list. Now sort the columns as in the image and select OK to sort. You may be prompted with a Sort Warning, and I chose "Sort numbers and numbers stored as text separately" (not sure if it matters).
-9,-8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,-0,-Z,-Y,-X,-W,-V,-U,-T,-S,-R,-Q,-P,-O,-N,-M,-L,-K,-J,-I,-H,-G,-F,-E,-D,-C,-B,-A,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
Here is my end result. Some observations:
- Minus values come before non-minus values.
- For minus values, larger numbers come before smaller numbers (e.g. J-24 and J-2)
- For non-minus values, larger numbers come after smaller numbers (e.g. A1 and A24).
- Note that the sort list customizations in the algorithm below can be customized to re-order the values in any order as needed.

Explanation of Excel Functions
To separate the first character, I used the formula
=MID(A2, 1, 1)
To extract subsequent characters, I used the formula:
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, N, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, N, 1)), MID(A2, N-1, 1))`
Where character `N` applies to characters 3, 4, 5, and 6. The `Else` part of the first `IF` function will take care of character 2 for a non-minus sort.
In pseudocode, the formula does this:
If character 2 is a minus then prep our current character N for sorting
If character N is blank then
Return a blank because we have no character to sort by
Else
Return a "-" prepended to character N
(e.g. `-5`, `-B`, which is understood by custom sort list)
End If
Else character 2 is not a minus
Return character N-1 for sorting
(-1 because minus doesn't exist for non-minus values)
End If
Algorithm with Assumptions
I used a combination of the MID and IF functions to break the string into parts and then applied a custom sort to achieve the end result. I have taken some liberties by making the following assumptions:
- The first column is treated separately from the remainder of the string and is always sorted first in ascending alpha order (e.g.
A, B, Y, Z). - For columns 2 to the end, values with a minus
-are sorted to come before values without one (e.g.-24B, -24A, -2B, -2A, -1, 1, 2A, 2B, 24A, 24B, in that order). Additionally:
- For values with a preceding minus
-, sort order is descending numeric and descending alpha, but with numeric coming before alpha. Examples:
- Descending numeric:
-24comes before-2, so-24Acomes before-2A. - Descending alpha:
Bcomes beforeAwithBandAtreated like-Band-A, respectively, so-2Bcomes before-2A. - Numeric before alpha:
4comes beforeB, so-24Bcomes before-2B.
- Descending numeric:
- For values without a preceding minus, sort order is ascending numeric and ascending alpha, but with alpha coming before numeric. Examples:
- Ascending numeric:
2comes before24, so2Acomes before24A. - Ascending alpha:
Acomes beforeB, so2Acomes before2B. - Alpha before numeric:
Acomes before4, so2Acomes before24A.
- Ascending numeric:
- For values with a preceding minus
The rules can vary widely depending on how your column is formatted.
Custom Sort List
The sorting is outlined in the custom sort list in the order shown below. Negative numeric and alpha characters are listed descending with numeric coming before alpha. Positive numeric and alpha characters are listed ascending with alpha coming before numeric.
-9,-8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,-0,-Z,-Y,-X,-W,-V,-U,-T,-S,-R,-Q,-P,-O,-N,-M,-L,-K,-J,-I,-H,-G,-F,-E,-D,-C,-B,-A,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
Note that the sort list can be ordered in any way desired to achieve the preferred results. Here are some examples.
- Re-order
-Z to -Aas-A to -Zif you want ascending minus alpha order (e.g.A-2Acomes beforeA-2B). - Move
-9 to -0after-Z to -Ato get minus alpha before numeric (e.g.J-2Fcomes beforeJ-24). - Move
0to9beforeAtoZto get non-minus numeric before alpha (e.g.F21comes beforeF2A).
This custom sort list is applied to each character individually starting from the left column to the right column to achieve the final sorted result.
Cool answer. Welcome to Super User. I took care of the images for you.
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 1:03
This does not give the correct result for the sample data in the question. I don’t know whether to congratulate you for constructing a data set for which your solution works, but the answer is wrong.
– Scott
Mar 8 at 2:18
@AlexM, thanks!
– user9525052
Mar 8 at 15:20
@Scott I think you're assuming facts not in evidence. To the extent that OP defined the desired sort, this answer suits it, as far as I can see.
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 18:10
@Scott. Good catch. I overlooked the part where the numbers were descending in the minus sort. Unfortunately, the OP hasn't provided the column format specification, so I had to make some assumptions. The algorithm ended up being more complex, but I think it's flexible enough to achieve the desired sort order.
– user9525052
Mar 8 at 19:38
add a comment |
Sample Excel Implementation Based on Algorithm Below
You can break your strings apart to individual components and custom sort them, but without the column format specifications, only a guess can be provided.
First, setup your spreadsheet like below (column names aren't needed, but were added to line up with the sort dialog). Note that this example assumes your string can have up to 6 characters.

Copy the formulas as follows:
=MID(A2, 1, 1)into column B2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 3, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 3, 1)), MID(A2, 2, 1))into column C2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 4, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 4, 1)), MID(A2, 3, 1))into column D2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 5, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 5, 1)), MID(A2, 4, 1))into column E2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 6, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 6, 1)), MID(A2, 5, 1))into column F2.- Select columns B2 through F2 and copy the formulas down to the last row. Your result should look similar to the screen shot above.
- Select columns A1 to F10, right-click, select Sort, and then Custom Sort.... This popup will appear.

I used a custom list to specify my sort order which is shown below. Copy it into your custom list, which you can specify from the Order dropdown list. Now sort the columns as in the image and select OK to sort. You may be prompted with a Sort Warning, and I chose "Sort numbers and numbers stored as text separately" (not sure if it matters).
-9,-8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,-0,-Z,-Y,-X,-W,-V,-U,-T,-S,-R,-Q,-P,-O,-N,-M,-L,-K,-J,-I,-H,-G,-F,-E,-D,-C,-B,-A,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
Here is my end result. Some observations:
- Minus values come before non-minus values.
- For minus values, larger numbers come before smaller numbers (e.g. J-24 and J-2)
- For non-minus values, larger numbers come after smaller numbers (e.g. A1 and A24).
- Note that the sort list customizations in the algorithm below can be customized to re-order the values in any order as needed.

Explanation of Excel Functions
To separate the first character, I used the formula
=MID(A2, 1, 1)
To extract subsequent characters, I used the formula:
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, N, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, N, 1)), MID(A2, N-1, 1))`
Where character `N` applies to characters 3, 4, 5, and 6. The `Else` part of the first `IF` function will take care of character 2 for a non-minus sort.
In pseudocode, the formula does this:
If character 2 is a minus then prep our current character N for sorting
If character N is blank then
Return a blank because we have no character to sort by
Else
Return a "-" prepended to character N
(e.g. `-5`, `-B`, which is understood by custom sort list)
End If
Else character 2 is not a minus
Return character N-1 for sorting
(-1 because minus doesn't exist for non-minus values)
End If
Algorithm with Assumptions
I used a combination of the MID and IF functions to break the string into parts and then applied a custom sort to achieve the end result. I have taken some liberties by making the following assumptions:
- The first column is treated separately from the remainder of the string and is always sorted first in ascending alpha order (e.g.
A, B, Y, Z). - For columns 2 to the end, values with a minus
-are sorted to come before values without one (e.g.-24B, -24A, -2B, -2A, -1, 1, 2A, 2B, 24A, 24B, in that order). Additionally:
- For values with a preceding minus
-, sort order is descending numeric and descending alpha, but with numeric coming before alpha. Examples:
- Descending numeric:
-24comes before-2, so-24Acomes before-2A. - Descending alpha:
Bcomes beforeAwithBandAtreated like-Band-A, respectively, so-2Bcomes before-2A. - Numeric before alpha:
4comes beforeB, so-24Bcomes before-2B.
- Descending numeric:
- For values without a preceding minus, sort order is ascending numeric and ascending alpha, but with alpha coming before numeric. Examples:
- Ascending numeric:
2comes before24, so2Acomes before24A. - Ascending alpha:
Acomes beforeB, so2Acomes before2B. - Alpha before numeric:
Acomes before4, so2Acomes before24A.
- Ascending numeric:
- For values with a preceding minus
The rules can vary widely depending on how your column is formatted.
Custom Sort List
The sorting is outlined in the custom sort list in the order shown below. Negative numeric and alpha characters are listed descending with numeric coming before alpha. Positive numeric and alpha characters are listed ascending with alpha coming before numeric.
-9,-8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,-0,-Z,-Y,-X,-W,-V,-U,-T,-S,-R,-Q,-P,-O,-N,-M,-L,-K,-J,-I,-H,-G,-F,-E,-D,-C,-B,-A,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
Note that the sort list can be ordered in any way desired to achieve the preferred results. Here are some examples.
- Re-order
-Z to -Aas-A to -Zif you want ascending minus alpha order (e.g.A-2Acomes beforeA-2B). - Move
-9 to -0after-Z to -Ato get minus alpha before numeric (e.g.J-2Fcomes beforeJ-24). - Move
0to9beforeAtoZto get non-minus numeric before alpha (e.g.F21comes beforeF2A).
This custom sort list is applied to each character individually starting from the left column to the right column to achieve the final sorted result.
Sample Excel Implementation Based on Algorithm Below
You can break your strings apart to individual components and custom sort them, but without the column format specifications, only a guess can be provided.
First, setup your spreadsheet like below (column names aren't needed, but were added to line up with the sort dialog). Note that this example assumes your string can have up to 6 characters.

Copy the formulas as follows:
=MID(A2, 1, 1)into column B2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 3, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 3, 1)), MID(A2, 2, 1))into column C2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 4, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 4, 1)), MID(A2, 3, 1))into column D2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 5, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 5, 1)), MID(A2, 4, 1))into column E2.
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, 6, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, 6, 1)), MID(A2, 5, 1))into column F2.- Select columns B2 through F2 and copy the formulas down to the last row. Your result should look similar to the screen shot above.
- Select columns A1 to F10, right-click, select Sort, and then Custom Sort.... This popup will appear.

I used a custom list to specify my sort order which is shown below. Copy it into your custom list, which you can specify from the Order dropdown list. Now sort the columns as in the image and select OK to sort. You may be prompted with a Sort Warning, and I chose "Sort numbers and numbers stored as text separately" (not sure if it matters).
-9,-8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,-0,-Z,-Y,-X,-W,-V,-U,-T,-S,-R,-Q,-P,-O,-N,-M,-L,-K,-J,-I,-H,-G,-F,-E,-D,-C,-B,-A,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
Here is my end result. Some observations:
- Minus values come before non-minus values.
- For minus values, larger numbers come before smaller numbers (e.g. J-24 and J-2)
- For non-minus values, larger numbers come after smaller numbers (e.g. A1 and A24).
- Note that the sort list customizations in the algorithm below can be customized to re-order the values in any order as needed.

Explanation of Excel Functions
To separate the first character, I used the formula
=MID(A2, 1, 1)
To extract subsequent characters, I used the formula:
=IF(MID(A2, 2, 1) = "-", IF(MID(A2, N, 1) = "", "", "-" & MID(A2, N, 1)), MID(A2, N-1, 1))`
Where character `N` applies to characters 3, 4, 5, and 6. The `Else` part of the first `IF` function will take care of character 2 for a non-minus sort.
In pseudocode, the formula does this:
If character 2 is a minus then prep our current character N for sorting
If character N is blank then
Return a blank because we have no character to sort by
Else
Return a "-" prepended to character N
(e.g. `-5`, `-B`, which is understood by custom sort list)
End If
Else character 2 is not a minus
Return character N-1 for sorting
(-1 because minus doesn't exist for non-minus values)
End If
Algorithm with Assumptions
I used a combination of the MID and IF functions to break the string into parts and then applied a custom sort to achieve the end result. I have taken some liberties by making the following assumptions:
- The first column is treated separately from the remainder of the string and is always sorted first in ascending alpha order (e.g.
A, B, Y, Z). - For columns 2 to the end, values with a minus
-are sorted to come before values without one (e.g.-24B, -24A, -2B, -2A, -1, 1, 2A, 2B, 24A, 24B, in that order). Additionally:
- For values with a preceding minus
-, sort order is descending numeric and descending alpha, but with numeric coming before alpha. Examples:
- Descending numeric:
-24comes before-2, so-24Acomes before-2A. - Descending alpha:
Bcomes beforeAwithBandAtreated like-Band-A, respectively, so-2Bcomes before-2A. - Numeric before alpha:
4comes beforeB, so-24Bcomes before-2B.
- Descending numeric:
- For values without a preceding minus, sort order is ascending numeric and ascending alpha, but with alpha coming before numeric. Examples:
- Ascending numeric:
2comes before24, so2Acomes before24A. - Ascending alpha:
Acomes beforeB, so2Acomes before2B. - Alpha before numeric:
Acomes before4, so2Acomes before24A.
- Ascending numeric:
- For values with a preceding minus
The rules can vary widely depending on how your column is formatted.
Custom Sort List
The sorting is outlined in the custom sort list in the order shown below. Negative numeric and alpha characters are listed descending with numeric coming before alpha. Positive numeric and alpha characters are listed ascending with alpha coming before numeric.
-9,-8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,-0,-Z,-Y,-X,-W,-V,-U,-T,-S,-R,-Q,-P,-O,-N,-M,-L,-K,-J,-I,-H,-G,-F,-E,-D,-C,-B,-A,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
Note that the sort list can be ordered in any way desired to achieve the preferred results. Here are some examples.
- Re-order
-Z to -Aas-A to -Zif you want ascending minus alpha order (e.g.A-2Acomes beforeA-2B). - Move
-9 to -0after-Z to -Ato get minus alpha before numeric (e.g.J-2Fcomes beforeJ-24). - Move
0to9beforeAtoZto get non-minus numeric before alpha (e.g.F21comes beforeF2A).
This custom sort list is applied to each character individually starting from the left column to the right column to achieve the final sorted result.
edited Mar 8 at 19:53
answered Mar 8 at 0:04
user9525052user9525052
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Cool answer. Welcome to Super User. I took care of the images for you.
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 1:03
This does not give the correct result for the sample data in the question. I don’t know whether to congratulate you for constructing a data set for which your solution works, but the answer is wrong.
– Scott
Mar 8 at 2:18
@AlexM, thanks!
– user9525052
Mar 8 at 15:20
@Scott I think you're assuming facts not in evidence. To the extent that OP defined the desired sort, this answer suits it, as far as I can see.
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 18:10
@Scott. Good catch. I overlooked the part where the numbers were descending in the minus sort. Unfortunately, the OP hasn't provided the column format specification, so I had to make some assumptions. The algorithm ended up being more complex, but I think it's flexible enough to achieve the desired sort order.
– user9525052
Mar 8 at 19:38
add a comment |
Cool answer. Welcome to Super User. I took care of the images for you.
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 1:03
This does not give the correct result for the sample data in the question. I don’t know whether to congratulate you for constructing a data set for which your solution works, but the answer is wrong.
– Scott
Mar 8 at 2:18
@AlexM, thanks!
– user9525052
Mar 8 at 15:20
@Scott I think you're assuming facts not in evidence. To the extent that OP defined the desired sort, this answer suits it, as far as I can see.
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 18:10
@Scott. Good catch. I overlooked the part where the numbers were descending in the minus sort. Unfortunately, the OP hasn't provided the column format specification, so I had to make some assumptions. The algorithm ended up being more complex, but I think it's flexible enough to achieve the desired sort order.
– user9525052
Mar 8 at 19:38
Cool answer. Welcome to Super User. I took care of the images for you.
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 1:03
Cool answer. Welcome to Super User. I took care of the images for you.
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 1:03
This does not give the correct result for the sample data in the question. I don’t know whether to congratulate you for constructing a data set for which your solution works, but the answer is wrong.
– Scott
Mar 8 at 2:18
This does not give the correct result for the sample data in the question. I don’t know whether to congratulate you for constructing a data set for which your solution works, but the answer is wrong.
– Scott
Mar 8 at 2:18
@AlexM, thanks!
– user9525052
Mar 8 at 15:20
@AlexM, thanks!
– user9525052
Mar 8 at 15:20
@Scott I think you're assuming facts not in evidence. To the extent that OP defined the desired sort, this answer suits it, as far as I can see.
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 18:10
@Scott I think you're assuming facts not in evidence. To the extent that OP defined the desired sort, this answer suits it, as far as I can see.
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 18:10
@Scott. Good catch. I overlooked the part where the numbers were descending in the minus sort. Unfortunately, the OP hasn't provided the column format specification, so I had to make some assumptions. The algorithm ended up being more complex, but I think it's flexible enough to achieve the desired sort order.
– user9525052
Mar 8 at 19:38
@Scott. Good catch. I overlooked the part where the numbers were descending in the minus sort. Unfortunately, the OP hasn't provided the column format specification, so I had to make some assumptions. The algorithm ended up being more complex, but I think it's flexible enough to achieve the desired sort order.
– user9525052
Mar 8 at 19:38
add a comment |
Your issue can be solved using few Helper Columns:

How it works:
- Unsorted Data Range is
B2:B13. - Formula in
C2.
=Left(B2,1), fill it down. - Formula in
D2.=VALUE(RIGHT(B2,LEN(B2)-1)),fill it down. - Select Data to Sort.
- From HOME Tab click Sort Icon and
select Custom Sort. - Set
Column,Sort ON&Orderas shown in
Screen Shot, finish with Ok. - Finally from Sort Warning Dialogue select
Second Option& hit Ok to finish.
N.B.
- I've included original order of unsorted data
in Column A (in Red Color) to Compare with
Sorted Data. - You may hide both Helper Columns after Data
been Sorted. - Adjust cell references in Formula as needed.
add a comment |
Your issue can be solved using few Helper Columns:

How it works:
- Unsorted Data Range is
B2:B13. - Formula in
C2.
=Left(B2,1), fill it down. - Formula in
D2.=VALUE(RIGHT(B2,LEN(B2)-1)),fill it down. - Select Data to Sort.
- From HOME Tab click Sort Icon and
select Custom Sort. - Set
Column,Sort ON&Orderas shown in
Screen Shot, finish with Ok. - Finally from Sort Warning Dialogue select
Second Option& hit Ok to finish.
N.B.
- I've included original order of unsorted data
in Column A (in Red Color) to Compare with
Sorted Data. - You may hide both Helper Columns after Data
been Sorted. - Adjust cell references in Formula as needed.
add a comment |
Your issue can be solved using few Helper Columns:

How it works:
- Unsorted Data Range is
B2:B13. - Formula in
C2.
=Left(B2,1), fill it down. - Formula in
D2.=VALUE(RIGHT(B2,LEN(B2)-1)),fill it down. - Select Data to Sort.
- From HOME Tab click Sort Icon and
select Custom Sort. - Set
Column,Sort ON&Orderas shown in
Screen Shot, finish with Ok. - Finally from Sort Warning Dialogue select
Second Option& hit Ok to finish.
N.B.
- I've included original order of unsorted data
in Column A (in Red Color) to Compare with
Sorted Data. - You may hide both Helper Columns after Data
been Sorted. - Adjust cell references in Formula as needed.
Your issue can be solved using few Helper Columns:

How it works:
- Unsorted Data Range is
B2:B13. - Formula in
C2.
=Left(B2,1), fill it down. - Formula in
D2.=VALUE(RIGHT(B2,LEN(B2)-1)),fill it down. - Select Data to Sort.
- From HOME Tab click Sort Icon and
select Custom Sort. - Set
Column,Sort ON&Orderas shown in
Screen Shot, finish with Ok. - Finally from Sort Warning Dialogue select
Second Option& hit Ok to finish.
N.B.
- I've included original order of unsorted data
in Column A (in Red Color) to Compare with
Sorted Data. - You may hide both Helper Columns after Data
been Sorted. - Adjust cell references in Formula as needed.
answered Mar 9 at 5:34
Rajesh SRajesh S
4,4382725
4,4382725
add a comment |
add a comment |
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Is it always one letter then a positive or negative number then zero or one letter ?
– Stormweaker
Mar 7 at 13:04
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Care to comment on where the data with trailing letters should be sorted?
– Alex M
Mar 8 at 1:02
Could you post the real order since I've almost solve it but I just wanna to compare with your original list.
– Rajesh S
Mar 8 at 7:53