Unique combinations with elements from a set
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I am not a mathematician per say, so please forgive me if I am not using the correct terminology.
I have the following question:
I have a set of 6 elements, i.e {1,2,3,4,5,6}
. Now, I would like to find out a general formula for the number of combinations if I chose k
out of n
elements to compare them. In other words how many iteration will I need to cycle from 1 through 6. Note: (1,2) = (2,1)
i.e without repetitions. For instance, if I choose three elements at a time, I will need only 5 iterations to compare the elements:
1. (1,2), (1,3), (1,4)
2. (1,5), (1,6), (2,3)
3. (2,4), (2,5), (2,6)
4. (3,4), (3,5), (3,6)
5. (4,5), (4,6), (5,6)
If I choose 4 elements at a time, I will have:
1. (1,2), (1,3), (1,4), (1,5)
2. (1,6), (2,3), (2,4), (2,5)
3. (2,6), (3,4), (3,5), (3,6)
4. (4,5), (4,6), (5,6)
In this case it took 3 full iterations and one partial e.g, total=3.75 iterations.
So, I have been trying to come up with a formula for the number of full and partial iterations.
Hopefully my questions makes sense, and you could help!
combinatorics computational-mathematics
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I am not a mathematician per say, so please forgive me if I am not using the correct terminology.
I have the following question:
I have a set of 6 elements, i.e {1,2,3,4,5,6}
. Now, I would like to find out a general formula for the number of combinations if I chose k
out of n
elements to compare them. In other words how many iteration will I need to cycle from 1 through 6. Note: (1,2) = (2,1)
i.e without repetitions. For instance, if I choose three elements at a time, I will need only 5 iterations to compare the elements:
1. (1,2), (1,3), (1,4)
2. (1,5), (1,6), (2,3)
3. (2,4), (2,5), (2,6)
4. (3,4), (3,5), (3,6)
5. (4,5), (4,6), (5,6)
If I choose 4 elements at a time, I will have:
1. (1,2), (1,3), (1,4), (1,5)
2. (1,6), (2,3), (2,4), (2,5)
3. (2,6), (3,4), (3,5), (3,6)
4. (4,5), (4,6), (5,6)
In this case it took 3 full iterations and one partial e.g, total=3.75 iterations.
So, I have been trying to come up with a formula for the number of full and partial iterations.
Hopefully my questions makes sense, and you could help!
combinatorics computational-mathematics
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You have ${6 choose 2}=15$. Are you asking for a formula for $frac{15}{3}=5$ and $frac{15}{4}=3.75$ etc.?
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– Henry
Jan 6 at 23:57
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@Henry Exactly!!
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– Abedin
Jan 6 at 23:58
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I am not a mathematician per say, so please forgive me if I am not using the correct terminology.
I have the following question:
I have a set of 6 elements, i.e {1,2,3,4,5,6}
. Now, I would like to find out a general formula for the number of combinations if I chose k
out of n
elements to compare them. In other words how many iteration will I need to cycle from 1 through 6. Note: (1,2) = (2,1)
i.e without repetitions. For instance, if I choose three elements at a time, I will need only 5 iterations to compare the elements:
1. (1,2), (1,3), (1,4)
2. (1,5), (1,6), (2,3)
3. (2,4), (2,5), (2,6)
4. (3,4), (3,5), (3,6)
5. (4,5), (4,6), (5,6)
If I choose 4 elements at a time, I will have:
1. (1,2), (1,3), (1,4), (1,5)
2. (1,6), (2,3), (2,4), (2,5)
3. (2,6), (3,4), (3,5), (3,6)
4. (4,5), (4,6), (5,6)
In this case it took 3 full iterations and one partial e.g, total=3.75 iterations.
So, I have been trying to come up with a formula for the number of full and partial iterations.
Hopefully my questions makes sense, and you could help!
combinatorics computational-mathematics
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I am not a mathematician per say, so please forgive me if I am not using the correct terminology.
I have the following question:
I have a set of 6 elements, i.e {1,2,3,4,5,6}
. Now, I would like to find out a general formula for the number of combinations if I chose k
out of n
elements to compare them. In other words how many iteration will I need to cycle from 1 through 6. Note: (1,2) = (2,1)
i.e without repetitions. For instance, if I choose three elements at a time, I will need only 5 iterations to compare the elements:
1. (1,2), (1,3), (1,4)
2. (1,5), (1,6), (2,3)
3. (2,4), (2,5), (2,6)
4. (3,4), (3,5), (3,6)
5. (4,5), (4,6), (5,6)
If I choose 4 elements at a time, I will have:
1. (1,2), (1,3), (1,4), (1,5)
2. (1,6), (2,3), (2,4), (2,5)
3. (2,6), (3,4), (3,5), (3,6)
4. (4,5), (4,6), (5,6)
In this case it took 3 full iterations and one partial e.g, total=3.75 iterations.
So, I have been trying to come up with a formula for the number of full and partial iterations.
Hopefully my questions makes sense, and you could help!
combinatorics computational-mathematics
combinatorics computational-mathematics
asked Jan 6 at 23:50
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You have ${6 choose 2}=15$. Are you asking for a formula for $frac{15}{3}=5$ and $frac{15}{4}=3.75$ etc.?
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– Henry
Jan 6 at 23:57
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@Henry Exactly!!
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– Abedin
Jan 6 at 23:58
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You have ${6 choose 2}=15$. Are you asking for a formula for $frac{15}{3}=5$ and $frac{15}{4}=3.75$ etc.?
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– Henry
Jan 6 at 23:57
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@Henry Exactly!!
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– Abedin
Jan 6 at 23:58
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You have ${6 choose 2}=15$. Are you asking for a formula for $frac{15}{3}=5$ and $frac{15}{4}=3.75$ etc.?
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– Henry
Jan 6 at 23:57
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You have ${6 choose 2}=15$. Are you asking for a formula for $frac{15}{3}=5$ and $frac{15}{4}=3.75$ etc.?
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– Henry
Jan 6 at 23:57
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@Henry Exactly!!
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– Abedin
Jan 6 at 23:58
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@Henry Exactly!!
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– Abedin
Jan 6 at 23:58
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There are $$frac{n!}{k!(n-k)!}$$ ways to choose a set of $k$ distinct elements from a set of $n$ distinct elements, which is what you have. So, the number of $k$ comparisons is $$frac{n!}{kk!(n-k)!}.$$
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The last formula is what I was looking for. I am aware of the first formula but it never occurred to me to divide by one morek
.
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– Abedin
Jan 7 at 0:02
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There are $$frac{n!}{k!(n-k)!}$$ ways to choose a set of $k$ distinct elements from a set of $n$ distinct elements, which is what you have. So, the number of $k$ comparisons is $$frac{n!}{kk!(n-k)!}.$$
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The last formula is what I was looking for. I am aware of the first formula but it never occurred to me to divide by one morek
.
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Jan 7 at 0:02
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There are $$frac{n!}{k!(n-k)!}$$ ways to choose a set of $k$ distinct elements from a set of $n$ distinct elements, which is what you have. So, the number of $k$ comparisons is $$frac{n!}{kk!(n-k)!}.$$
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The last formula is what I was looking for. I am aware of the first formula but it never occurred to me to divide by one morek
.
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– Abedin
Jan 7 at 0:02
add a comment |
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There are $$frac{n!}{k!(n-k)!}$$ ways to choose a set of $k$ distinct elements from a set of $n$ distinct elements, which is what you have. So, the number of $k$ comparisons is $$frac{n!}{kk!(n-k)!}.$$
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There are $$frac{n!}{k!(n-k)!}$$ ways to choose a set of $k$ distinct elements from a set of $n$ distinct elements, which is what you have. So, the number of $k$ comparisons is $$frac{n!}{kk!(n-k)!}.$$
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The last formula is what I was looking for. I am aware of the first formula but it never occurred to me to divide by one morek
.
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The last formula is what I was looking for. I am aware of the first formula but it never occurred to me to divide by one morek
.
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The last formula is what I was looking for. I am aware of the first formula but it never occurred to me to divide by one more
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The last formula is what I was looking for. I am aware of the first formula but it never occurred to me to divide by one more
k
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You have ${6 choose 2}=15$. Are you asking for a formula for $frac{15}{3}=5$ and $frac{15}{4}=3.75$ etc.?
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– Henry
Jan 6 at 23:57
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@Henry Exactly!!
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Jan 6 at 23:58