d'Alembert's Solution to a configuration where waves on strings reflect at an angle?












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Consider the wave equation:
$$frac{partial^2 u}{partial t^2}=frac{partial^2u}{partial y^2},$$
with wave speed equal to 1.
Consider a domain with strings arranged like so:



enter image description here



where each vertical line denotes a string. The domain is given by:
$$-inftyle xleinfty, -L/2le yle L/2.$$
Assume the strings are fixed at both ends. If the initial condition is given by:
$$u(x,y,0)=e^{-(x^2+y^2)},$$
and it is assumed the wave is travelling in the positive $y$ direction, then the full solution is given by approximately:
$$u(x,y,t)=sum_{n=0}^{infty}(-1)^ne^{-{x^2+[y-(-1)^n(t-nL)]^2}},$$
using d'Alembert's formula, provided $Lgg1$. The $Lgg1$ requirement is needed to ensure the exponentials with their centres initially outside the domain contribute a negligible amount to the domain initially. I could have easily replaced the Gaussians with rectangular functions and this would mean the $Lgg1$ requirement would not be needed. My question is what would the solution be if I rotated the strings such that the domain looked like this:



enter image description here



I naively hoped that if I rotated the coordinate system
to form:
$$s = frac{1}{sqrt{2}}(x+y), A=frac{1}{sqrt{2}}(x-y)$$
then the solution would be:
$$u(s,A,t)=sum_{n=0}^{infty}(-1)^ne^{-{[s-(-1)^n(t-nL_s)]^2+A^2}},$$
however, this suggests the solution would retain its Gaussian shape, but from looking at a simulation I know this is not the case:



enter image description hereenter image description here



Note that now the strings have been rotated, the system is described by:
$$frac{partial^2 u}{partial t^2}=frac{partial^2u}{partial s^2}.$$










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    Have you tried increasing the resolution of your numerical grid?
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    Yes, and the same effect occurs. One thing I did not mention is after the pulse reflects off the bottom boundary it returns to its initial circular shape.
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    Jan 8 at 21:17
















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Consider the wave equation:
$$frac{partial^2 u}{partial t^2}=frac{partial^2u}{partial y^2},$$
with wave speed equal to 1.
Consider a domain with strings arranged like so:



enter image description here



where each vertical line denotes a string. The domain is given by:
$$-inftyle xleinfty, -L/2le yle L/2.$$
Assume the strings are fixed at both ends. If the initial condition is given by:
$$u(x,y,0)=e^{-(x^2+y^2)},$$
and it is assumed the wave is travelling in the positive $y$ direction, then the full solution is given by approximately:
$$u(x,y,t)=sum_{n=0}^{infty}(-1)^ne^{-{x^2+[y-(-1)^n(t-nL)]^2}},$$
using d'Alembert's formula, provided $Lgg1$. The $Lgg1$ requirement is needed to ensure the exponentials with their centres initially outside the domain contribute a negligible amount to the domain initially. I could have easily replaced the Gaussians with rectangular functions and this would mean the $Lgg1$ requirement would not be needed. My question is what would the solution be if I rotated the strings such that the domain looked like this:



enter image description here



I naively hoped that if I rotated the coordinate system
to form:
$$s = frac{1}{sqrt{2}}(x+y), A=frac{1}{sqrt{2}}(x-y)$$
then the solution would be:
$$u(s,A,t)=sum_{n=0}^{infty}(-1)^ne^{-{[s-(-1)^n(t-nL_s)]^2+A^2}},$$
however, this suggests the solution would retain its Gaussian shape, but from looking at a simulation I know this is not the case:



enter image description hereenter image description here



Note that now the strings have been rotated, the system is described by:
$$frac{partial^2 u}{partial t^2}=frac{partial^2u}{partial s^2}.$$










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    Have you tried increasing the resolution of your numerical grid?
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    – Eddy
    Jan 8 at 21:15










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    Yes, and the same effect occurs. One thing I did not mention is after the pulse reflects off the bottom boundary it returns to its initial circular shape.
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    – Peanutlex
    Jan 8 at 21:17














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$begingroup$


Consider the wave equation:
$$frac{partial^2 u}{partial t^2}=frac{partial^2u}{partial y^2},$$
with wave speed equal to 1.
Consider a domain with strings arranged like so:



enter image description here



where each vertical line denotes a string. The domain is given by:
$$-inftyle xleinfty, -L/2le yle L/2.$$
Assume the strings are fixed at both ends. If the initial condition is given by:
$$u(x,y,0)=e^{-(x^2+y^2)},$$
and it is assumed the wave is travelling in the positive $y$ direction, then the full solution is given by approximately:
$$u(x,y,t)=sum_{n=0}^{infty}(-1)^ne^{-{x^2+[y-(-1)^n(t-nL)]^2}},$$
using d'Alembert's formula, provided $Lgg1$. The $Lgg1$ requirement is needed to ensure the exponentials with their centres initially outside the domain contribute a negligible amount to the domain initially. I could have easily replaced the Gaussians with rectangular functions and this would mean the $Lgg1$ requirement would not be needed. My question is what would the solution be if I rotated the strings such that the domain looked like this:



enter image description here



I naively hoped that if I rotated the coordinate system
to form:
$$s = frac{1}{sqrt{2}}(x+y), A=frac{1}{sqrt{2}}(x-y)$$
then the solution would be:
$$u(s,A,t)=sum_{n=0}^{infty}(-1)^ne^{-{[s-(-1)^n(t-nL_s)]^2+A^2}},$$
however, this suggests the solution would retain its Gaussian shape, but from looking at a simulation I know this is not the case:



enter image description hereenter image description here



Note that now the strings have been rotated, the system is described by:
$$frac{partial^2 u}{partial t^2}=frac{partial^2u}{partial s^2}.$$










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Consider the wave equation:
$$frac{partial^2 u}{partial t^2}=frac{partial^2u}{partial y^2},$$
with wave speed equal to 1.
Consider a domain with strings arranged like so:



enter image description here



where each vertical line denotes a string. The domain is given by:
$$-inftyle xleinfty, -L/2le yle L/2.$$
Assume the strings are fixed at both ends. If the initial condition is given by:
$$u(x,y,0)=e^{-(x^2+y^2)},$$
and it is assumed the wave is travelling in the positive $y$ direction, then the full solution is given by approximately:
$$u(x,y,t)=sum_{n=0}^{infty}(-1)^ne^{-{x^2+[y-(-1)^n(t-nL)]^2}},$$
using d'Alembert's formula, provided $Lgg1$. The $Lgg1$ requirement is needed to ensure the exponentials with their centres initially outside the domain contribute a negligible amount to the domain initially. I could have easily replaced the Gaussians with rectangular functions and this would mean the $Lgg1$ requirement would not be needed. My question is what would the solution be if I rotated the strings such that the domain looked like this:



enter image description here



I naively hoped that if I rotated the coordinate system
to form:
$$s = frac{1}{sqrt{2}}(x+y), A=frac{1}{sqrt{2}}(x-y)$$
then the solution would be:
$$u(s,A,t)=sum_{n=0}^{infty}(-1)^ne^{-{[s-(-1)^n(t-nL_s)]^2+A^2}},$$
however, this suggests the solution would retain its Gaussian shape, but from looking at a simulation I know this is not the case:



enter image description hereenter image description here



Note that now the strings have been rotated, the system is described by:
$$frac{partial^2 u}{partial t^2}=frac{partial^2u}{partial s^2}.$$







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  • $begingroup$
    Have you tried increasing the resolution of your numerical grid?
    $endgroup$
    – Eddy
    Jan 8 at 21:15










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, and the same effect occurs. One thing I did not mention is after the pulse reflects off the bottom boundary it returns to its initial circular shape.
    $endgroup$
    – Peanutlex
    Jan 8 at 21:17


















  • $begingroup$
    Have you tried increasing the resolution of your numerical grid?
    $endgroup$
    – Eddy
    Jan 8 at 21:15










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, and the same effect occurs. One thing I did not mention is after the pulse reflects off the bottom boundary it returns to its initial circular shape.
    $endgroup$
    – Peanutlex
    Jan 8 at 21:17
















$begingroup$
Have you tried increasing the resolution of your numerical grid?
$endgroup$
– Eddy
Jan 8 at 21:15




$begingroup$
Have you tried increasing the resolution of your numerical grid?
$endgroup$
– Eddy
Jan 8 at 21:15












$begingroup$
Yes, and the same effect occurs. One thing I did not mention is after the pulse reflects off the bottom boundary it returns to its initial circular shape.
$endgroup$
– Peanutlex
Jan 8 at 21:17




$begingroup$
Yes, and the same effect occurs. One thing I did not mention is after the pulse reflects off the bottom boundary it returns to its initial circular shape.
$endgroup$
– Peanutlex
Jan 8 at 21:17










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To formulate an analytic solution we first write down the equations and boundary conditions. We are working in the space $(s, A, t) $ where $tgeq 0$ and
$$
A-L_s <s<A+L_s
$$

In this domain
$$
frac{partial^2 u}{partial s^2 } = frac{partial^2 u}{partial t^2 }
$$

and on its boundary
$$
u=0.
$$

At time $t=0$ we know the solution is
$$
u(s, A, 0) = f(s,A)
$$

and this wave moves in the positive $s$ direction. To write out this solution fully we extend the function $f$ outside of the domain to have value $0$, so that we can write the solution as
$$
u(s, A, 0) = f(s-t, A) - f(2(A+L_s)-[s-t],A) + f(2(A-L_s) - [2(A+L_s)-[s-t]], A) - f(2(A+L_s)-[2(A-L_s) - [2(A+L_s)-[s-t]]], A) +ldots
$$

where each term is a subsequent reflection. Simplifying
$$
u(s, A, 0) = sum_{n=0}^infty f(s-t-4nL_s, A) - f(-s+t-(4n+2)L_s+2A, A)
$$

The distortion you are seeing comes from the $2A$ term in the first coordinate of the second $f$, and is the result of angling the domain edge.






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    $begingroup$

    To formulate an analytic solution we first write down the equations and boundary conditions. We are working in the space $(s, A, t) $ where $tgeq 0$ and
    $$
    A-L_s <s<A+L_s
    $$

    In this domain
    $$
    frac{partial^2 u}{partial s^2 } = frac{partial^2 u}{partial t^2 }
    $$

    and on its boundary
    $$
    u=0.
    $$

    At time $t=0$ we know the solution is
    $$
    u(s, A, 0) = f(s,A)
    $$

    and this wave moves in the positive $s$ direction. To write out this solution fully we extend the function $f$ outside of the domain to have value $0$, so that we can write the solution as
    $$
    u(s, A, 0) = f(s-t, A) - f(2(A+L_s)-[s-t],A) + f(2(A-L_s) - [2(A+L_s)-[s-t]], A) - f(2(A+L_s)-[2(A-L_s) - [2(A+L_s)-[s-t]]], A) +ldots
    $$

    where each term is a subsequent reflection. Simplifying
    $$
    u(s, A, 0) = sum_{n=0}^infty f(s-t-4nL_s, A) - f(-s+t-(4n+2)L_s+2A, A)
    $$

    The distortion you are seeing comes from the $2A$ term in the first coordinate of the second $f$, and is the result of angling the domain edge.






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      $begingroup$

      To formulate an analytic solution we first write down the equations and boundary conditions. We are working in the space $(s, A, t) $ where $tgeq 0$ and
      $$
      A-L_s <s<A+L_s
      $$

      In this domain
      $$
      frac{partial^2 u}{partial s^2 } = frac{partial^2 u}{partial t^2 }
      $$

      and on its boundary
      $$
      u=0.
      $$

      At time $t=0$ we know the solution is
      $$
      u(s, A, 0) = f(s,A)
      $$

      and this wave moves in the positive $s$ direction. To write out this solution fully we extend the function $f$ outside of the domain to have value $0$, so that we can write the solution as
      $$
      u(s, A, 0) = f(s-t, A) - f(2(A+L_s)-[s-t],A) + f(2(A-L_s) - [2(A+L_s)-[s-t]], A) - f(2(A+L_s)-[2(A-L_s) - [2(A+L_s)-[s-t]]], A) +ldots
      $$

      where each term is a subsequent reflection. Simplifying
      $$
      u(s, A, 0) = sum_{n=0}^infty f(s-t-4nL_s, A) - f(-s+t-(4n+2)L_s+2A, A)
      $$

      The distortion you are seeing comes from the $2A$ term in the first coordinate of the second $f$, and is the result of angling the domain edge.






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        $begingroup$

        To formulate an analytic solution we first write down the equations and boundary conditions. We are working in the space $(s, A, t) $ where $tgeq 0$ and
        $$
        A-L_s <s<A+L_s
        $$

        In this domain
        $$
        frac{partial^2 u}{partial s^2 } = frac{partial^2 u}{partial t^2 }
        $$

        and on its boundary
        $$
        u=0.
        $$

        At time $t=0$ we know the solution is
        $$
        u(s, A, 0) = f(s,A)
        $$

        and this wave moves in the positive $s$ direction. To write out this solution fully we extend the function $f$ outside of the domain to have value $0$, so that we can write the solution as
        $$
        u(s, A, 0) = f(s-t, A) - f(2(A+L_s)-[s-t],A) + f(2(A-L_s) - [2(A+L_s)-[s-t]], A) - f(2(A+L_s)-[2(A-L_s) - [2(A+L_s)-[s-t]]], A) +ldots
        $$

        where each term is a subsequent reflection. Simplifying
        $$
        u(s, A, 0) = sum_{n=0}^infty f(s-t-4nL_s, A) - f(-s+t-(4n+2)L_s+2A, A)
        $$

        The distortion you are seeing comes from the $2A$ term in the first coordinate of the second $f$, and is the result of angling the domain edge.






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        To formulate an analytic solution we first write down the equations and boundary conditions. We are working in the space $(s, A, t) $ where $tgeq 0$ and
        $$
        A-L_s <s<A+L_s
        $$

        In this domain
        $$
        frac{partial^2 u}{partial s^2 } = frac{partial^2 u}{partial t^2 }
        $$

        and on its boundary
        $$
        u=0.
        $$

        At time $t=0$ we know the solution is
        $$
        u(s, A, 0) = f(s,A)
        $$

        and this wave moves in the positive $s$ direction. To write out this solution fully we extend the function $f$ outside of the domain to have value $0$, so that we can write the solution as
        $$
        u(s, A, 0) = f(s-t, A) - f(2(A+L_s)-[s-t],A) + f(2(A-L_s) - [2(A+L_s)-[s-t]], A) - f(2(A+L_s)-[2(A-L_s) - [2(A+L_s)-[s-t]]], A) +ldots
        $$

        where each term is a subsequent reflection. Simplifying
        $$
        u(s, A, 0) = sum_{n=0}^infty f(s-t-4nL_s, A) - f(-s+t-(4n+2)L_s+2A, A)
        $$

        The distortion you are seeing comes from the $2A$ term in the first coordinate of the second $f$, and is the result of angling the domain edge.







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