Changing my Clock
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I was given a problem in class. Let's say I bought a clock with no numbers on it (has only the hands). Because of the recent time change, I had to change my clock one hour back. In order to do this, I can rotate the clock.
Is it possible to rotate it exactly one hour?
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I was given a problem in class. Let's say I bought a clock with no numbers on it (has only the hands). Because of the recent time change, I had to change my clock one hour back. In order to do this, I can rotate the clock.
Is it possible to rotate it exactly one hour?
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I don't think so.
– WesleyGroupshaveFeelingsToo
Nov 13 at 10:30
At $2$ AM the angle between the hands is $60^{circ}.$ At $3$ AM the angle is $90^{circ}$ at $1$ AM the angle is $30^{circ}.$ Since rotation of the clock preserves the angle between the hands, the time can't be adjusted by rotating the clock.
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Nov 13 at 10:39
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I was given a problem in class. Let's say I bought a clock with no numbers on it (has only the hands). Because of the recent time change, I had to change my clock one hour back. In order to do this, I can rotate the clock.
Is it possible to rotate it exactly one hour?
puzzle angle local-time
I was given a problem in class. Let's say I bought a clock with no numbers on it (has only the hands). Because of the recent time change, I had to change my clock one hour back. In order to do this, I can rotate the clock.
Is it possible to rotate it exactly one hour?
puzzle angle local-time
puzzle angle local-time
edited Nov 13 at 11:10
WesleyGroupshaveFeelingsToo
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I don't think so.
– WesleyGroupshaveFeelingsToo
Nov 13 at 10:30
At $2$ AM the angle between the hands is $60^{circ}.$ At $3$ AM the angle is $90^{circ}$ at $1$ AM the angle is $30^{circ}.$ Since rotation of the clock preserves the angle between the hands, the time can't be adjusted by rotating the clock.
– saulspatz
Nov 13 at 10:39
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I don't think so.
– WesleyGroupshaveFeelingsToo
Nov 13 at 10:30
At $2$ AM the angle between the hands is $60^{circ}.$ At $3$ AM the angle is $90^{circ}$ at $1$ AM the angle is $30^{circ}.$ Since rotation of the clock preserves the angle between the hands, the time can't be adjusted by rotating the clock.
– saulspatz
Nov 13 at 10:39
I don't think so.
– WesleyGroupshaveFeelingsToo
Nov 13 at 10:30
I don't think so.
– WesleyGroupshaveFeelingsToo
Nov 13 at 10:30
At $2$ AM the angle between the hands is $60^{circ}.$ At $3$ AM the angle is $90^{circ}$ at $1$ AM the angle is $30^{circ}.$ Since rotation of the clock preserves the angle between the hands, the time can't be adjusted by rotating the clock.
– saulspatz
Nov 13 at 10:39
At $2$ AM the angle between the hands is $60^{circ}.$ At $3$ AM the angle is $90^{circ}$ at $1$ AM the angle is $30^{circ}.$ Since rotation of the clock preserves the angle between the hands, the time can't be adjusted by rotating the clock.
– saulspatz
Nov 13 at 10:39
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If every specific time on a clock has a certain distance between the two hands, it cannot be that two subsequent hours have the same distance between the hands.
let $alpha$ be the angle of the short hand with respect to $12$ o 'clock and $beta$ the angle of the long hand. Then we know that for clocks the rate of change (the speed at which the hands move is different) of $beta$ is greater than that of $alpha$, so consider $alpha '$ and $beta'$ to be the angles an hour later, we know that $$ beta - alpha neq beta' - alpha'$$
Since the angles between the hands are different there is no way to solve this by rotating the clock, as this preserves the angle between hands, and we need the angle to change.
As a concrete example, suppose it is 12 o 'clock. The two hands must be aligned, an hour later we have that the two hands are no longer aligned, we can not fix this by rotating.
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No. If you let the clock run for exactly an hour, the angle between the hands changes (by $30°$ for an ordinary clock).
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why is this hard to solve?
just keep rolling the minutes handle backwards until it reaches the same position
edit for super specific people :
put your finger on the tip of the minutes hand, change the minutes hand counter clock wise until it reaches the tip of your finger again
why was my solution downvoted without a reason?
– bigworld12
Nov 14 at 20:58
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3 Answers
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If every specific time on a clock has a certain distance between the two hands, it cannot be that two subsequent hours have the same distance between the hands.
let $alpha$ be the angle of the short hand with respect to $12$ o 'clock and $beta$ the angle of the long hand. Then we know that for clocks the rate of change (the speed at which the hands move is different) of $beta$ is greater than that of $alpha$, so consider $alpha '$ and $beta'$ to be the angles an hour later, we know that $$ beta - alpha neq beta' - alpha'$$
Since the angles between the hands are different there is no way to solve this by rotating the clock, as this preserves the angle between hands, and we need the angle to change.
As a concrete example, suppose it is 12 o 'clock. The two hands must be aligned, an hour later we have that the two hands are no longer aligned, we can not fix this by rotating.
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If every specific time on a clock has a certain distance between the two hands, it cannot be that two subsequent hours have the same distance between the hands.
let $alpha$ be the angle of the short hand with respect to $12$ o 'clock and $beta$ the angle of the long hand. Then we know that for clocks the rate of change (the speed at which the hands move is different) of $beta$ is greater than that of $alpha$, so consider $alpha '$ and $beta'$ to be the angles an hour later, we know that $$ beta - alpha neq beta' - alpha'$$
Since the angles between the hands are different there is no way to solve this by rotating the clock, as this preserves the angle between hands, and we need the angle to change.
As a concrete example, suppose it is 12 o 'clock. The two hands must be aligned, an hour later we have that the two hands are no longer aligned, we can not fix this by rotating.
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If every specific time on a clock has a certain distance between the two hands, it cannot be that two subsequent hours have the same distance between the hands.
let $alpha$ be the angle of the short hand with respect to $12$ o 'clock and $beta$ the angle of the long hand. Then we know that for clocks the rate of change (the speed at which the hands move is different) of $beta$ is greater than that of $alpha$, so consider $alpha '$ and $beta'$ to be the angles an hour later, we know that $$ beta - alpha neq beta' - alpha'$$
Since the angles between the hands are different there is no way to solve this by rotating the clock, as this preserves the angle between hands, and we need the angle to change.
As a concrete example, suppose it is 12 o 'clock. The two hands must be aligned, an hour later we have that the two hands are no longer aligned, we can not fix this by rotating.
If every specific time on a clock has a certain distance between the two hands, it cannot be that two subsequent hours have the same distance between the hands.
let $alpha$ be the angle of the short hand with respect to $12$ o 'clock and $beta$ the angle of the long hand. Then we know that for clocks the rate of change (the speed at which the hands move is different) of $beta$ is greater than that of $alpha$, so consider $alpha '$ and $beta'$ to be the angles an hour later, we know that $$ beta - alpha neq beta' - alpha'$$
Since the angles between the hands are different there is no way to solve this by rotating the clock, as this preserves the angle between hands, and we need the angle to change.
As a concrete example, suppose it is 12 o 'clock. The two hands must be aligned, an hour later we have that the two hands are no longer aligned, we can not fix this by rotating.
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No. If you let the clock run for exactly an hour, the angle between the hands changes (by $30°$ for an ordinary clock).
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No. If you let the clock run for exactly an hour, the angle between the hands changes (by $30°$ for an ordinary clock).
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No. If you let the clock run for exactly an hour, the angle between the hands changes (by $30°$ for an ordinary clock).
No. If you let the clock run for exactly an hour, the angle between the hands changes (by $30°$ for an ordinary clock).
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why is this hard to solve?
just keep rolling the minutes handle backwards until it reaches the same position
edit for super specific people :
put your finger on the tip of the minutes hand, change the minutes hand counter clock wise until it reaches the tip of your finger again
why was my solution downvoted without a reason?
– bigworld12
Nov 14 at 20:58
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up vote
-1
down vote
why is this hard to solve?
just keep rolling the minutes handle backwards until it reaches the same position
edit for super specific people :
put your finger on the tip of the minutes hand, change the minutes hand counter clock wise until it reaches the tip of your finger again
why was my solution downvoted without a reason?
– bigworld12
Nov 14 at 20:58
add a comment |
up vote
-1
down vote
up vote
-1
down vote
why is this hard to solve?
just keep rolling the minutes handle backwards until it reaches the same position
edit for super specific people :
put your finger on the tip of the minutes hand, change the minutes hand counter clock wise until it reaches the tip of your finger again
why is this hard to solve?
just keep rolling the minutes handle backwards until it reaches the same position
edit for super specific people :
put your finger on the tip of the minutes hand, change the minutes hand counter clock wise until it reaches the tip of your finger again
answered Nov 14 at 19:44
bigworld12
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why was my solution downvoted without a reason?
– bigworld12
Nov 14 at 20:58
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why was my solution downvoted without a reason?
– bigworld12
Nov 14 at 20:58
why was my solution downvoted without a reason?
– bigworld12
Nov 14 at 20:58
why was my solution downvoted without a reason?
– bigworld12
Nov 14 at 20:58
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I don't think so.
– WesleyGroupshaveFeelingsToo
Nov 13 at 10:30
At $2$ AM the angle between the hands is $60^{circ}.$ At $3$ AM the angle is $90^{circ}$ at $1$ AM the angle is $30^{circ}.$ Since rotation of the clock preserves the angle between the hands, the time can't be adjusted by rotating the clock.
– saulspatz
Nov 13 at 10:39