Finding the limit of this integral: $lim_{ntoinfty} int_0^1 frac{n x^p+x^q}{x^p+n x^q} dx$ if $q<p+1$
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I am trying to find the following limit provided: $q<p+1$:
$$ lim_{ntoinfty} int_0^1 dfrac{n x^p+x^q}{x^p+n x^q} dx$$
Dividing by $n x^q$ so we have
$$dfrac{n x^p+x^q}{x^p+n x^q}=dfrac{x^{p-q}+1/n}{(1/n) x^{p-q}+1}leq dfrac{x^{-1}+1/n}{(1/n) x^{p-q}+1}leq x^{-1}+1/n quadtext{ since } 0leq xleq 1 $$
or maybe
$$dfrac{n x^p+x^q}{x^p+n x^q}leq dfrac{n x^{q-1}+x^q}{x^p+n x^{p+1}} $$
I am trying to use MCT or DCT in somehow, or maybe other things.
Please help me solving this problem I am preparing for a prelim exam in January.
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I am trying to find the following limit provided: $q<p+1$:
$$ lim_{ntoinfty} int_0^1 dfrac{n x^p+x^q}{x^p+n x^q} dx$$
Dividing by $n x^q$ so we have
$$dfrac{n x^p+x^q}{x^p+n x^q}=dfrac{x^{p-q}+1/n}{(1/n) x^{p-q}+1}leq dfrac{x^{-1}+1/n}{(1/n) x^{p-q}+1}leq x^{-1}+1/n quadtext{ since } 0leq xleq 1 $$
or maybe
$$dfrac{n x^p+x^q}{x^p+n x^q}leq dfrac{n x^{q-1}+x^q}{x^p+n x^{p+1}} $$
I am trying to use MCT or DCT in somehow, or maybe other things.
Please help me solving this problem I am preparing for a prelim exam in January.
real-analysis limits convergence definite-integrals lebesgue-integral
Can you say more about $p,q$? Can they be negative? Can they be between 0 and 1?
– Alice Ryhl
Dec 19 '14 at 13:29
I was wondering like you. But no, this is an old prelim problem.
– Ruzayqat
Dec 19 '14 at 13:32
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I am trying to find the following limit provided: $q<p+1$:
$$ lim_{ntoinfty} int_0^1 dfrac{n x^p+x^q}{x^p+n x^q} dx$$
Dividing by $n x^q$ so we have
$$dfrac{n x^p+x^q}{x^p+n x^q}=dfrac{x^{p-q}+1/n}{(1/n) x^{p-q}+1}leq dfrac{x^{-1}+1/n}{(1/n) x^{p-q}+1}leq x^{-1}+1/n quadtext{ since } 0leq xleq 1 $$
or maybe
$$dfrac{n x^p+x^q}{x^p+n x^q}leq dfrac{n x^{q-1}+x^q}{x^p+n x^{p+1}} $$
I am trying to use MCT or DCT in somehow, or maybe other things.
Please help me solving this problem I am preparing for a prelim exam in January.
real-analysis limits convergence definite-integrals lebesgue-integral
I am trying to find the following limit provided: $q<p+1$:
$$ lim_{ntoinfty} int_0^1 dfrac{n x^p+x^q}{x^p+n x^q} dx$$
Dividing by $n x^q$ so we have
$$dfrac{n x^p+x^q}{x^p+n x^q}=dfrac{x^{p-q}+1/n}{(1/n) x^{p-q}+1}leq dfrac{x^{-1}+1/n}{(1/n) x^{p-q}+1}leq x^{-1}+1/n quadtext{ since } 0leq xleq 1 $$
or maybe
$$dfrac{n x^p+x^q}{x^p+n x^q}leq dfrac{n x^{q-1}+x^q}{x^p+n x^{p+1}} $$
I am trying to use MCT or DCT in somehow, or maybe other things.
Please help me solving this problem I am preparing for a prelim exam in January.
real-analysis limits convergence definite-integrals lebesgue-integral
real-analysis limits convergence definite-integrals lebesgue-integral
edited Nov 13 at 11:14
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Can you say more about $p,q$? Can they be negative? Can they be between 0 and 1?
– Alice Ryhl
Dec 19 '14 at 13:29
I was wondering like you. But no, this is an old prelim problem.
– Ruzayqat
Dec 19 '14 at 13:32
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Can you say more about $p,q$? Can they be negative? Can they be between 0 and 1?
– Alice Ryhl
Dec 19 '14 at 13:29
I was wondering like you. But no, this is an old prelim problem.
– Ruzayqat
Dec 19 '14 at 13:32
Can you say more about $p,q$? Can they be negative? Can they be between 0 and 1?
– Alice Ryhl
Dec 19 '14 at 13:29
Can you say more about $p,q$? Can they be negative? Can they be between 0 and 1?
– Alice Ryhl
Dec 19 '14 at 13:29
I was wondering like you. But no, this is an old prelim problem.
– Ruzayqat
Dec 19 '14 at 13:32
I was wondering like you. But no, this is an old prelim problem.
– Ruzayqat
Dec 19 '14 at 13:32
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Writing $f_ncolon xin(0,1]mapsto frac{n x^p+x^q}{n x^q+x^p}$
- pointwise convergence to $fcolon xin(0,1]mapsto x^{p-q}$ (with $p-q > -1$), which is integrable on $(0,1]$.
- for all $ngeq 1$ and $xin(0,1]$,
$$
0 leq f_n(x) leq frac{n x^p+x^q}{n x^q} = frac{1}{x^{q-p}}+frac{1}{n} leq frac{1}{x^{q-p}}+1= g(x)
$$
where $g$ is integrable on $(0,1]$ as $q-p < 1$.
Then, unless I have forgotten something you can apply the DCT to get that $int_{(0,1]} f_n xrightarrow[ntoinfty]{}int_{(0,1]} f = frac{1}{p-q+1}$.
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Hint:
$$frac{nx^p+x^q}{nx^q+x^p}-x^{p-q}=frac{x^q-x^{2p-q}}{nx^q+x^p}.$$
If you prove that the last term is small, then:
$$int_{0}^{1}frac{nx^p+x^q}{nx^q+x^p},dx sim int_{0}^{1}x^{p-q},dx = frac{1}{p-q+1}.$$
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Writing $f_ncolon xin(0,1]mapsto frac{n x^p+x^q}{n x^q+x^p}$
- pointwise convergence to $fcolon xin(0,1]mapsto x^{p-q}$ (with $p-q > -1$), which is integrable on $(0,1]$.
- for all $ngeq 1$ and $xin(0,1]$,
$$
0 leq f_n(x) leq frac{n x^p+x^q}{n x^q} = frac{1}{x^{q-p}}+frac{1}{n} leq frac{1}{x^{q-p}}+1= g(x)
$$
where $g$ is integrable on $(0,1]$ as $q-p < 1$.
Then, unless I have forgotten something you can apply the DCT to get that $int_{(0,1]} f_n xrightarrow[ntoinfty]{}int_{(0,1]} f = frac{1}{p-q+1}$.
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Writing $f_ncolon xin(0,1]mapsto frac{n x^p+x^q}{n x^q+x^p}$
- pointwise convergence to $fcolon xin(0,1]mapsto x^{p-q}$ (with $p-q > -1$), which is integrable on $(0,1]$.
- for all $ngeq 1$ and $xin(0,1]$,
$$
0 leq f_n(x) leq frac{n x^p+x^q}{n x^q} = frac{1}{x^{q-p}}+frac{1}{n} leq frac{1}{x^{q-p}}+1= g(x)
$$
where $g$ is integrable on $(0,1]$ as $q-p < 1$.
Then, unless I have forgotten something you can apply the DCT to get that $int_{(0,1]} f_n xrightarrow[ntoinfty]{}int_{(0,1]} f = frac{1}{p-q+1}$.
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Writing $f_ncolon xin(0,1]mapsto frac{n x^p+x^q}{n x^q+x^p}$
- pointwise convergence to $fcolon xin(0,1]mapsto x^{p-q}$ (with $p-q > -1$), which is integrable on $(0,1]$.
- for all $ngeq 1$ and $xin(0,1]$,
$$
0 leq f_n(x) leq frac{n x^p+x^q}{n x^q} = frac{1}{x^{q-p}}+frac{1}{n} leq frac{1}{x^{q-p}}+1= g(x)
$$
where $g$ is integrable on $(0,1]$ as $q-p < 1$.
Then, unless I have forgotten something you can apply the DCT to get that $int_{(0,1]} f_n xrightarrow[ntoinfty]{}int_{(0,1]} f = frac{1}{p-q+1}$.
Writing $f_ncolon xin(0,1]mapsto frac{n x^p+x^q}{n x^q+x^p}$
- pointwise convergence to $fcolon xin(0,1]mapsto x^{p-q}$ (with $p-q > -1$), which is integrable on $(0,1]$.
- for all $ngeq 1$ and $xin(0,1]$,
$$
0 leq f_n(x) leq frac{n x^p+x^q}{n x^q} = frac{1}{x^{q-p}}+frac{1}{n} leq frac{1}{x^{q-p}}+1= g(x)
$$
where $g$ is integrable on $(0,1]$ as $q-p < 1$.
Then, unless I have forgotten something you can apply the DCT to get that $int_{(0,1]} f_n xrightarrow[ntoinfty]{}int_{(0,1]} f = frac{1}{p-q+1}$.
edited Dec 19 '14 at 13:51
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Hint:
$$frac{nx^p+x^q}{nx^q+x^p}-x^{p-q}=frac{x^q-x^{2p-q}}{nx^q+x^p}.$$
If you prove that the last term is small, then:
$$int_{0}^{1}frac{nx^p+x^q}{nx^q+x^p},dx sim int_{0}^{1}x^{p-q},dx = frac{1}{p-q+1}.$$
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Hint:
$$frac{nx^p+x^q}{nx^q+x^p}-x^{p-q}=frac{x^q-x^{2p-q}}{nx^q+x^p}.$$
If you prove that the last term is small, then:
$$int_{0}^{1}frac{nx^p+x^q}{nx^q+x^p},dx sim int_{0}^{1}x^{p-q},dx = frac{1}{p-q+1}.$$
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Hint:
$$frac{nx^p+x^q}{nx^q+x^p}-x^{p-q}=frac{x^q-x^{2p-q}}{nx^q+x^p}.$$
If you prove that the last term is small, then:
$$int_{0}^{1}frac{nx^p+x^q}{nx^q+x^p},dx sim int_{0}^{1}x^{p-q},dx = frac{1}{p-q+1}.$$
Hint:
$$frac{nx^p+x^q}{nx^q+x^p}-x^{p-q}=frac{x^q-x^{2p-q}}{nx^q+x^p}.$$
If you prove that the last term is small, then:
$$int_{0}^{1}frac{nx^p+x^q}{nx^q+x^p},dx sim int_{0}^{1}x^{p-q},dx = frac{1}{p-q+1}.$$
answered Dec 19 '14 at 13:38
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Can you say more about $p,q$? Can they be negative? Can they be between 0 and 1?
– Alice Ryhl
Dec 19 '14 at 13:29
I was wondering like you. But no, this is an old prelim problem.
– Ruzayqat
Dec 19 '14 at 13:32