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I am planning to accompany a friend on an overseas trip, where my friend will be undertaking several medical procedures to finish transitioning gender. These procedures include the actual gender reassignment surgery, and some plastic surgery.



His passport currently says his name is "John" and he is male. After the procedure, my friend's name will legally still be 'John', but her gender will be female, and her physical appear will also change. (Here I am using the word "gender" to refer to external genitalia, body shape, etc.)



Should we apply for an emergency travel document in order to return home, after the procedures are completed, given the discrepancy in appearance and gender with the official passport? Or will it still be possible to return on the original passport, post-operation, if my friend carries extensive documentation about the procedures performed?



(Both of us will be travelling on US passports.)










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  • Possible duplicate of: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/121704/…

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  • Have you seen travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/…? I suspect that the old passport would be accepted for the return journey, especially in connection with relevant medical records. Perhaps your friend would nonetheless be unwilling to use it; is that the case? Will you be in the foreign country for long enough to get a new passport rather than an emergency travel document?

    – phoog
    Feb 25 at 19:56











  • Doubt that other duplicate will help since they appear to have completed their transition at home. This is a transition being done abroad. We're only planning on being abroad for long enough to do the transition, plus the post-op recovery -- a few weeks. Also that other question appears to have an answer talking about Egypt, which I have no idea why that's relevant to a UK passport holder wanting to travel to US.

    – Roddy of the Frozen Peas
    Feb 25 at 20:02













  • Does your friend have short hair? Wear typically "male" clothes? Has your friend undergone electrolysis to suppress facial hair or hormone treatments to change overall body shape? Will the stay abroad be so long that the answers are different on the outbound and homeward portions of the trip?

    – Kate Gregory
    Feb 25 at 21:16






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    Friends who have gone through this process in Thailand have been given a letter by the surgeon explaining the situation for the passport agents. But not sure any have actually needed to use these letters. Note that these are UK citizens, and we can legally change our passports (including gender marker) prior to surgery.

    – Kickstart
    Feb 26 at 11:02
















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I am planning to accompany a friend on an overseas trip, where my friend will be undertaking several medical procedures to finish transitioning gender. These procedures include the actual gender reassignment surgery, and some plastic surgery.



His passport currently says his name is "John" and he is male. After the procedure, my friend's name will legally still be 'John', but her gender will be female, and her physical appear will also change. (Here I am using the word "gender" to refer to external genitalia, body shape, etc.)



Should we apply for an emergency travel document in order to return home, after the procedures are completed, given the discrepancy in appearance and gender with the official passport? Or will it still be possible to return on the original passport, post-operation, if my friend carries extensive documentation about the procedures performed?



(Both of us will be travelling on US passports.)










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  • Possible duplicate of: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/121704/…

    – JonathanReez
    Feb 25 at 19:50











  • Have you seen travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/…? I suspect that the old passport would be accepted for the return journey, especially in connection with relevant medical records. Perhaps your friend would nonetheless be unwilling to use it; is that the case? Will you be in the foreign country for long enough to get a new passport rather than an emergency travel document?

    – phoog
    Feb 25 at 19:56











  • Doubt that other duplicate will help since they appear to have completed their transition at home. This is a transition being done abroad. We're only planning on being abroad for long enough to do the transition, plus the post-op recovery -- a few weeks. Also that other question appears to have an answer talking about Egypt, which I have no idea why that's relevant to a UK passport holder wanting to travel to US.

    – Roddy of the Frozen Peas
    Feb 25 at 20:02













  • Does your friend have short hair? Wear typically "male" clothes? Has your friend undergone electrolysis to suppress facial hair or hormone treatments to change overall body shape? Will the stay abroad be so long that the answers are different on the outbound and homeward portions of the trip?

    – Kate Gregory
    Feb 25 at 21:16






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    Friends who have gone through this process in Thailand have been given a letter by the surgeon explaining the situation for the passport agents. But not sure any have actually needed to use these letters. Note that these are UK citizens, and we can legally change our passports (including gender marker) prior to surgery.

    – Kickstart
    Feb 26 at 11:02














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I am planning to accompany a friend on an overseas trip, where my friend will be undertaking several medical procedures to finish transitioning gender. These procedures include the actual gender reassignment surgery, and some plastic surgery.



His passport currently says his name is "John" and he is male. After the procedure, my friend's name will legally still be 'John', but her gender will be female, and her physical appear will also change. (Here I am using the word "gender" to refer to external genitalia, body shape, etc.)



Should we apply for an emergency travel document in order to return home, after the procedures are completed, given the discrepancy in appearance and gender with the official passport? Or will it still be possible to return on the original passport, post-operation, if my friend carries extensive documentation about the procedures performed?



(Both of us will be travelling on US passports.)










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I am planning to accompany a friend on an overseas trip, where my friend will be undertaking several medical procedures to finish transitioning gender. These procedures include the actual gender reassignment surgery, and some plastic surgery.



His passport currently says his name is "John" and he is male. After the procedure, my friend's name will legally still be 'John', but her gender will be female, and her physical appear will also change. (Here I am using the word "gender" to refer to external genitalia, body shape, etc.)



Should we apply for an emergency travel document in order to return home, after the procedures are completed, given the discrepancy in appearance and gender with the official passport? Or will it still be possible to return on the original passport, post-operation, if my friend carries extensive documentation about the procedures performed?



(Both of us will be travelling on US passports.)







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  • Possible duplicate of: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/121704/…

    – JonathanReez
    Feb 25 at 19:50











  • Have you seen travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/…? I suspect that the old passport would be accepted for the return journey, especially in connection with relevant medical records. Perhaps your friend would nonetheless be unwilling to use it; is that the case? Will you be in the foreign country for long enough to get a new passport rather than an emergency travel document?

    – phoog
    Feb 25 at 19:56











  • Doubt that other duplicate will help since they appear to have completed their transition at home. This is a transition being done abroad. We're only planning on being abroad for long enough to do the transition, plus the post-op recovery -- a few weeks. Also that other question appears to have an answer talking about Egypt, which I have no idea why that's relevant to a UK passport holder wanting to travel to US.

    – Roddy of the Frozen Peas
    Feb 25 at 20:02













  • Does your friend have short hair? Wear typically "male" clothes? Has your friend undergone electrolysis to suppress facial hair or hormone treatments to change overall body shape? Will the stay abroad be so long that the answers are different on the outbound and homeward portions of the trip?

    – Kate Gregory
    Feb 25 at 21:16






  • 1





    Friends who have gone through this process in Thailand have been given a letter by the surgeon explaining the situation for the passport agents. But not sure any have actually needed to use these letters. Note that these are UK citizens, and we can legally change our passports (including gender marker) prior to surgery.

    – Kickstart
    Feb 26 at 11:02



















  • Possible duplicate of: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/121704/…

    – JonathanReez
    Feb 25 at 19:50











  • Have you seen travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/…? I suspect that the old passport would be accepted for the return journey, especially in connection with relevant medical records. Perhaps your friend would nonetheless be unwilling to use it; is that the case? Will you be in the foreign country for long enough to get a new passport rather than an emergency travel document?

    – phoog
    Feb 25 at 19:56











  • Doubt that other duplicate will help since they appear to have completed their transition at home. This is a transition being done abroad. We're only planning on being abroad for long enough to do the transition, plus the post-op recovery -- a few weeks. Also that other question appears to have an answer talking about Egypt, which I have no idea why that's relevant to a UK passport holder wanting to travel to US.

    – Roddy of the Frozen Peas
    Feb 25 at 20:02













  • Does your friend have short hair? Wear typically "male" clothes? Has your friend undergone electrolysis to suppress facial hair or hormone treatments to change overall body shape? Will the stay abroad be so long that the answers are different on the outbound and homeward portions of the trip?

    – Kate Gregory
    Feb 25 at 21:16






  • 1





    Friends who have gone through this process in Thailand have been given a letter by the surgeon explaining the situation for the passport agents. But not sure any have actually needed to use these letters. Note that these are UK citizens, and we can legally change our passports (including gender marker) prior to surgery.

    – Kickstart
    Feb 26 at 11:02

















Possible duplicate of: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/121704/…

– JonathanReez
Feb 25 at 19:50





Possible duplicate of: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/121704/…

– JonathanReez
Feb 25 at 19:50













Have you seen travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/…? I suspect that the old passport would be accepted for the return journey, especially in connection with relevant medical records. Perhaps your friend would nonetheless be unwilling to use it; is that the case? Will you be in the foreign country for long enough to get a new passport rather than an emergency travel document?

– phoog
Feb 25 at 19:56





Have you seen travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/…? I suspect that the old passport would be accepted for the return journey, especially in connection with relevant medical records. Perhaps your friend would nonetheless be unwilling to use it; is that the case? Will you be in the foreign country for long enough to get a new passport rather than an emergency travel document?

– phoog
Feb 25 at 19:56













Doubt that other duplicate will help since they appear to have completed their transition at home. This is a transition being done abroad. We're only planning on being abroad for long enough to do the transition, plus the post-op recovery -- a few weeks. Also that other question appears to have an answer talking about Egypt, which I have no idea why that's relevant to a UK passport holder wanting to travel to US.

– Roddy of the Frozen Peas
Feb 25 at 20:02







Doubt that other duplicate will help since they appear to have completed their transition at home. This is a transition being done abroad. We're only planning on being abroad for long enough to do the transition, plus the post-op recovery -- a few weeks. Also that other question appears to have an answer talking about Egypt, which I have no idea why that's relevant to a UK passport holder wanting to travel to US.

– Roddy of the Frozen Peas
Feb 25 at 20:02















Does your friend have short hair? Wear typically "male" clothes? Has your friend undergone electrolysis to suppress facial hair or hormone treatments to change overall body shape? Will the stay abroad be so long that the answers are different on the outbound and homeward portions of the trip?

– Kate Gregory
Feb 25 at 21:16





Does your friend have short hair? Wear typically "male" clothes? Has your friend undergone electrolysis to suppress facial hair or hormone treatments to change overall body shape? Will the stay abroad be so long that the answers are different on the outbound and homeward portions of the trip?

– Kate Gregory
Feb 25 at 21:16




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Friends who have gone through this process in Thailand have been given a letter by the surgeon explaining the situation for the passport agents. But not sure any have actually needed to use these letters. Note that these are UK citizens, and we can legally change our passports (including gender marker) prior to surgery.

– Kickstart
Feb 26 at 11:02





Friends who have gone through this process in Thailand have been given a letter by the surgeon explaining the situation for the passport agents. But not sure any have actually needed to use these letters. Note that these are UK citizens, and we can legally change our passports (including gender marker) prior to surgery.

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You do not need an emergency travel document.



Until you announce to the USA government that you have completed transition and provide documentation, they will not unilaterally change your sex in the records.



Thus your travel documents with previous sex still holds valid until you officially effect those changes when you return to the USA.



Your sex is not officially determined by your appearance. We are long past that period of stereotyping based purely on looks. There are many people who look like the opposite sex. Also there are many people who look radically different from their passport pictures including people who have transitioned but have not yet reassigned their official gender.



In conclusion, regardless of how your friend looks now and how different his/her appearance is from what is on her official documents, he/she will be let in if he/she can prove with documentation that she/he is who she/he claims he/she is. Yes you will spend a little longer at immigration on arrival and when checking in at the departure airport however this is nothing new.



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https://transequality.org/know-your-rights/passports




In June 2010, the State Department announced a new policy to issue
passports that reflect a person’s current gender when either a
previous passport or other personal documentation presented by an
applicant reflects a different gender.



Under the new policy, a transgender person can obtain a passport
reflecting his or her current gender by submitting a certification
from a physician confirming that he or she has had appropriate
clinical treatment for gender transition. This policy replaces the
Department’s old policy, which required documentation of sex
reassignment surgery. In January 2011, the State Department made
further improvements to its new policy.







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    You will not need an emergency travel document.



    First, the US does not have a single concept of "legal sex". Your friend's old passport will be accepted as long as it is valid, although they may have problems if their legal name does not match their passport.



    Changing name and gender are two separate processes in the US. In order to change their name, your friend will have to request a name change through a court in their US residence. In order to change their sex listed on their passport, they will have to follow the process the state department has defined, which does not require surgery. This is separate of every other legal gender change process, including birth certificate, driver's license, and employment.



    Finally, their gender, and what pronouns you should use for them, is not defined by their genitalia. You should use the pronouns your friend has asked you to use at all times, and not make up your own rules.



    Source: personal experience. I traveled to the EU presenting female with the wrong gender and old name on my passport, and have since had experience going to several countries with my updated passport in my new name and with female on my passport.






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    • My concern is more the mismatch of the official gender (male) with what my friend will look like after the surgeries (breasts, etc) and the difference in appearance -- im not 100% on the types of plastic surgeries but I am led to understand there will be some differences. I'm aware of the separate processes regarding name and gender change; I was more concerned about the radical appearance change and possibly the documented gender mismatch. However thank you for sharing your experiences.

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      Border officers will first notice face, and will not notice genetalia (or at least shouldn't. I don't know what surgeries your friend is getting). Although travel can be more difficult with incorrect documents, your friend should not have too many problems. They may want to bring a doctor's letter or information about your plans when entering Thailand though.

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    Let's see this: Do I need a new photo if my appearance has changed in the passport photo section of the travel.state.gov site. The answer is as follows:




    Only if your appearance has significantly changed from what is in your current passport. Growing a beard or coloring your hair would not constitute a significant change. If you can still be identified from the photo in your current passport, you do not need to apply for a new passport.



    You may have to apply for a new passport if you have:



    Undergone significant facial surgery or trauma

    Added or removed numerous/large facial piercings or tattoos

    Undergone a significant amount of weight loss or gain

    Made a gender transition






    My own interpreation is "As long as you still can be identified from the photo in your current passport after gender transition you are fine." My understanding is that unless you do actual facial surgery, a gender transition will not change your face significantly from one minute to the next. That'd be extremely weird, wouldn't it? Sudden face changes happen in movies but in real life, not so much.






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      Gender transitions often include facial feminisation surgery. The change can be fairly radical.

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    • Thank you for your response. That part of the State department's website was actually what prompted this question, the fact that they explicitly call out "made a gender transition" in the criteria under "you may have to apply...." It is my understanding that the border control officers are trained to look past superficial changes (hair, etc) to consider the underlying structure of the face, but the facial reconstruction surgeries that change one's appearance to be more 'feminine' is what I was concerned about. (Admittedly, I'm no expert in that sort of thing either...)

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    You do not need an emergency travel document.



    Until you announce to the USA government that you have completed transition and provide documentation, they will not unilaterally change your sex in the records.



    Thus your travel documents with previous sex still holds valid until you officially effect those changes when you return to the USA.



    Your sex is not officially determined by your appearance. We are long past that period of stereotyping based purely on looks. There are many people who look like the opposite sex. Also there are many people who look radically different from their passport pictures including people who have transitioned but have not yet reassigned their official gender.



    In conclusion, regardless of how your friend looks now and how different his/her appearance is from what is on her official documents, he/she will be let in if he/she can prove with documentation that she/he is who she/he claims he/she is. Yes you will spend a little longer at immigration on arrival and when checking in at the departure airport however this is nothing new.



    REFERENCES



    https://transequality.org/know-your-rights/passports




    In June 2010, the State Department announced a new policy to issue
    passports that reflect a person’s current gender when either a
    previous passport or other personal documentation presented by an
    applicant reflects a different gender.



    Under the new policy, a transgender person can obtain a passport
    reflecting his or her current gender by submitting a certification
    from a physician confirming that he or she has had appropriate
    clinical treatment for gender transition. This policy replaces the
    Department’s old policy, which required documentation of sex
    reassignment surgery. In January 2011, the State Department made
    further improvements to its new policy.







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      You do not need an emergency travel document.



      Until you announce to the USA government that you have completed transition and provide documentation, they will not unilaterally change your sex in the records.



      Thus your travel documents with previous sex still holds valid until you officially effect those changes when you return to the USA.



      Your sex is not officially determined by your appearance. We are long past that period of stereotyping based purely on looks. There are many people who look like the opposite sex. Also there are many people who look radically different from their passport pictures including people who have transitioned but have not yet reassigned their official gender.



      In conclusion, regardless of how your friend looks now and how different his/her appearance is from what is on her official documents, he/she will be let in if he/she can prove with documentation that she/he is who she/he claims he/she is. Yes you will spend a little longer at immigration on arrival and when checking in at the departure airport however this is nothing new.



      REFERENCES



      https://transequality.org/know-your-rights/passports




      In June 2010, the State Department announced a new policy to issue
      passports that reflect a person’s current gender when either a
      previous passport or other personal documentation presented by an
      applicant reflects a different gender.



      Under the new policy, a transgender person can obtain a passport
      reflecting his or her current gender by submitting a certification
      from a physician confirming that he or she has had appropriate
      clinical treatment for gender transition. This policy replaces the
      Department’s old policy, which required documentation of sex
      reassignment surgery. In January 2011, the State Department made
      further improvements to its new policy.







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        You do not need an emergency travel document.



        Until you announce to the USA government that you have completed transition and provide documentation, they will not unilaterally change your sex in the records.



        Thus your travel documents with previous sex still holds valid until you officially effect those changes when you return to the USA.



        Your sex is not officially determined by your appearance. We are long past that period of stereotyping based purely on looks. There are many people who look like the opposite sex. Also there are many people who look radically different from their passport pictures including people who have transitioned but have not yet reassigned their official gender.



        In conclusion, regardless of how your friend looks now and how different his/her appearance is from what is on her official documents, he/she will be let in if he/she can prove with documentation that she/he is who she/he claims he/she is. Yes you will spend a little longer at immigration on arrival and when checking in at the departure airport however this is nothing new.



        REFERENCES



        https://transequality.org/know-your-rights/passports




        In June 2010, the State Department announced a new policy to issue
        passports that reflect a person’s current gender when either a
        previous passport or other personal documentation presented by an
        applicant reflects a different gender.



        Under the new policy, a transgender person can obtain a passport
        reflecting his or her current gender by submitting a certification
        from a physician confirming that he or she has had appropriate
        clinical treatment for gender transition. This policy replaces the
        Department’s old policy, which required documentation of sex
        reassignment surgery. In January 2011, the State Department made
        further improvements to its new policy.







        share|improve this answer















        You do not need an emergency travel document.



        Until you announce to the USA government that you have completed transition and provide documentation, they will not unilaterally change your sex in the records.



        Thus your travel documents with previous sex still holds valid until you officially effect those changes when you return to the USA.



        Your sex is not officially determined by your appearance. We are long past that period of stereotyping based purely on looks. There are many people who look like the opposite sex. Also there are many people who look radically different from their passport pictures including people who have transitioned but have not yet reassigned their official gender.



        In conclusion, regardless of how your friend looks now and how different his/her appearance is from what is on her official documents, he/she will be let in if he/she can prove with documentation that she/he is who she/he claims he/she is. Yes you will spend a little longer at immigration on arrival and when checking in at the departure airport however this is nothing new.



        REFERENCES



        https://transequality.org/know-your-rights/passports




        In June 2010, the State Department announced a new policy to issue
        passports that reflect a person’s current gender when either a
        previous passport or other personal documentation presented by an
        applicant reflects a different gender.



        Under the new policy, a transgender person can obtain a passport
        reflecting his or her current gender by submitting a certification
        from a physician confirming that he or she has had appropriate
        clinical treatment for gender transition. This policy replaces the
        Department’s old policy, which required documentation of sex
        reassignment surgery. In January 2011, the State Department made
        further improvements to its new policy.








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            You will not need an emergency travel document.



            First, the US does not have a single concept of "legal sex". Your friend's old passport will be accepted as long as it is valid, although they may have problems if their legal name does not match their passport.



            Changing name and gender are two separate processes in the US. In order to change their name, your friend will have to request a name change through a court in their US residence. In order to change their sex listed on their passport, they will have to follow the process the state department has defined, which does not require surgery. This is separate of every other legal gender change process, including birth certificate, driver's license, and employment.



            Finally, their gender, and what pronouns you should use for them, is not defined by their genitalia. You should use the pronouns your friend has asked you to use at all times, and not make up your own rules.



            Source: personal experience. I traveled to the EU presenting female with the wrong gender and old name on my passport, and have since had experience going to several countries with my updated passport in my new name and with female on my passport.






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            • My concern is more the mismatch of the official gender (male) with what my friend will look like after the surgeries (breasts, etc) and the difference in appearance -- im not 100% on the types of plastic surgeries but I am led to understand there will be some differences. I'm aware of the separate processes regarding name and gender change; I was more concerned about the radical appearance change and possibly the documented gender mismatch. However thank you for sharing your experiences.

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              Feb 26 at 3:46






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              Border officers will first notice face, and will not notice genetalia (or at least shouldn't. I don't know what surgeries your friend is getting). Although travel can be more difficult with incorrect documents, your friend should not have too many problems. They may want to bring a doctor's letter or information about your plans when entering Thailand though.

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              Feb 26 at 4:28
















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            You will not need an emergency travel document.



            First, the US does not have a single concept of "legal sex". Your friend's old passport will be accepted as long as it is valid, although they may have problems if their legal name does not match their passport.



            Changing name and gender are two separate processes in the US. In order to change their name, your friend will have to request a name change through a court in their US residence. In order to change their sex listed on their passport, they will have to follow the process the state department has defined, which does not require surgery. This is separate of every other legal gender change process, including birth certificate, driver's license, and employment.



            Finally, their gender, and what pronouns you should use for them, is not defined by their genitalia. You should use the pronouns your friend has asked you to use at all times, and not make up your own rules.



            Source: personal experience. I traveled to the EU presenting female with the wrong gender and old name on my passport, and have since had experience going to several countries with my updated passport in my new name and with female on my passport.






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            • My concern is more the mismatch of the official gender (male) with what my friend will look like after the surgeries (breasts, etc) and the difference in appearance -- im not 100% on the types of plastic surgeries but I am led to understand there will be some differences. I'm aware of the separate processes regarding name and gender change; I was more concerned about the radical appearance change and possibly the documented gender mismatch. However thank you for sharing your experiences.

              – Roddy of the Frozen Peas
              Feb 26 at 3:46






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              Border officers will first notice face, and will not notice genetalia (or at least shouldn't. I don't know what surgeries your friend is getting). Although travel can be more difficult with incorrect documents, your friend should not have too many problems. They may want to bring a doctor's letter or information about your plans when entering Thailand though.

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              Feb 26 at 4:28














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            You will not need an emergency travel document.



            First, the US does not have a single concept of "legal sex". Your friend's old passport will be accepted as long as it is valid, although they may have problems if their legal name does not match their passport.



            Changing name and gender are two separate processes in the US. In order to change their name, your friend will have to request a name change through a court in their US residence. In order to change their sex listed on their passport, they will have to follow the process the state department has defined, which does not require surgery. This is separate of every other legal gender change process, including birth certificate, driver's license, and employment.



            Finally, their gender, and what pronouns you should use for them, is not defined by their genitalia. You should use the pronouns your friend has asked you to use at all times, and not make up your own rules.



            Source: personal experience. I traveled to the EU presenting female with the wrong gender and old name on my passport, and have since had experience going to several countries with my updated passport in my new name and with female on my passport.






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            You will not need an emergency travel document.



            First, the US does not have a single concept of "legal sex". Your friend's old passport will be accepted as long as it is valid, although they may have problems if their legal name does not match their passport.



            Changing name and gender are two separate processes in the US. In order to change their name, your friend will have to request a name change through a court in their US residence. In order to change their sex listed on their passport, they will have to follow the process the state department has defined, which does not require surgery. This is separate of every other legal gender change process, including birth certificate, driver's license, and employment.



            Finally, their gender, and what pronouns you should use for them, is not defined by their genitalia. You should use the pronouns your friend has asked you to use at all times, and not make up your own rules.



            Source: personal experience. I traveled to the EU presenting female with the wrong gender and old name on my passport, and have since had experience going to several countries with my updated passport in my new name and with female on my passport.







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            answered Feb 26 at 1:47









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            • My concern is more the mismatch of the official gender (male) with what my friend will look like after the surgeries (breasts, etc) and the difference in appearance -- im not 100% on the types of plastic surgeries but I am led to understand there will be some differences. I'm aware of the separate processes regarding name and gender change; I was more concerned about the radical appearance change and possibly the documented gender mismatch. However thank you for sharing your experiences.

              – Roddy of the Frozen Peas
              Feb 26 at 3:46






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              Border officers will first notice face, and will not notice genetalia (or at least shouldn't. I don't know what surgeries your friend is getting). Although travel can be more difficult with incorrect documents, your friend should not have too many problems. They may want to bring a doctor's letter or information about your plans when entering Thailand though.

              – Artemis Tosini
              Feb 26 at 4:28



















            • My concern is more the mismatch of the official gender (male) with what my friend will look like after the surgeries (breasts, etc) and the difference in appearance -- im not 100% on the types of plastic surgeries but I am led to understand there will be some differences. I'm aware of the separate processes regarding name and gender change; I was more concerned about the radical appearance change and possibly the documented gender mismatch. However thank you for sharing your experiences.

              – Roddy of the Frozen Peas
              Feb 26 at 3:46






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              Border officers will first notice face, and will not notice genetalia (or at least shouldn't. I don't know what surgeries your friend is getting). Although travel can be more difficult with incorrect documents, your friend should not have too many problems. They may want to bring a doctor's letter or information about your plans when entering Thailand though.

              – Artemis Tosini
              Feb 26 at 4:28

















            My concern is more the mismatch of the official gender (male) with what my friend will look like after the surgeries (breasts, etc) and the difference in appearance -- im not 100% on the types of plastic surgeries but I am led to understand there will be some differences. I'm aware of the separate processes regarding name and gender change; I was more concerned about the radical appearance change and possibly the documented gender mismatch. However thank you for sharing your experiences.

            – Roddy of the Frozen Peas
            Feb 26 at 3:46





            My concern is more the mismatch of the official gender (male) with what my friend will look like after the surgeries (breasts, etc) and the difference in appearance -- im not 100% on the types of plastic surgeries but I am led to understand there will be some differences. I'm aware of the separate processes regarding name and gender change; I was more concerned about the radical appearance change and possibly the documented gender mismatch. However thank you for sharing your experiences.

            – Roddy of the Frozen Peas
            Feb 26 at 3:46




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            3





            Border officers will first notice face, and will not notice genetalia (or at least shouldn't. I don't know what surgeries your friend is getting). Although travel can be more difficult with incorrect documents, your friend should not have too many problems. They may want to bring a doctor's letter or information about your plans when entering Thailand though.

            – Artemis Tosini
            Feb 26 at 4:28





            Border officers will first notice face, and will not notice genetalia (or at least shouldn't. I don't know what surgeries your friend is getting). Although travel can be more difficult with incorrect documents, your friend should not have too many problems. They may want to bring a doctor's letter or information about your plans when entering Thailand though.

            – Artemis Tosini
            Feb 26 at 4:28











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            Let's see this: Do I need a new photo if my appearance has changed in the passport photo section of the travel.state.gov site. The answer is as follows:




            Only if your appearance has significantly changed from what is in your current passport. Growing a beard or coloring your hair would not constitute a significant change. If you can still be identified from the photo in your current passport, you do not need to apply for a new passport.



            You may have to apply for a new passport if you have:



            Undergone significant facial surgery or trauma

            Added or removed numerous/large facial piercings or tattoos

            Undergone a significant amount of weight loss or gain

            Made a gender transition






            My own interpreation is "As long as you still can be identified from the photo in your current passport after gender transition you are fine." My understanding is that unless you do actual facial surgery, a gender transition will not change your face significantly from one minute to the next. That'd be extremely weird, wouldn't it? Sudden face changes happen in movies but in real life, not so much.






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              Gender transitions often include facial feminisation surgery. The change can be fairly radical.

              – patstew
              Feb 26 at 15:49











            • Thank you for your response. That part of the State department's website was actually what prompted this question, the fact that they explicitly call out "made a gender transition" in the criteria under "you may have to apply...." It is my understanding that the border control officers are trained to look past superficial changes (hair, etc) to consider the underlying structure of the face, but the facial reconstruction surgeries that change one's appearance to be more 'feminine' is what I was concerned about. (Admittedly, I'm no expert in that sort of thing either...)

              – Roddy of the Frozen Peas
              Feb 26 at 16:44
















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            Let's see this: Do I need a new photo if my appearance has changed in the passport photo section of the travel.state.gov site. The answer is as follows:




            Only if your appearance has significantly changed from what is in your current passport. Growing a beard or coloring your hair would not constitute a significant change. If you can still be identified from the photo in your current passport, you do not need to apply for a new passport.



            You may have to apply for a new passport if you have:



            Undergone significant facial surgery or trauma

            Added or removed numerous/large facial piercings or tattoos

            Undergone a significant amount of weight loss or gain

            Made a gender transition






            My own interpreation is "As long as you still can be identified from the photo in your current passport after gender transition you are fine." My understanding is that unless you do actual facial surgery, a gender transition will not change your face significantly from one minute to the next. That'd be extremely weird, wouldn't it? Sudden face changes happen in movies but in real life, not so much.






            share|improve this answer





















            • 1





              Gender transitions often include facial feminisation surgery. The change can be fairly radical.

              – patstew
              Feb 26 at 15:49











            • Thank you for your response. That part of the State department's website was actually what prompted this question, the fact that they explicitly call out "made a gender transition" in the criteria under "you may have to apply...." It is my understanding that the border control officers are trained to look past superficial changes (hair, etc) to consider the underlying structure of the face, but the facial reconstruction surgeries that change one's appearance to be more 'feminine' is what I was concerned about. (Admittedly, I'm no expert in that sort of thing either...)

              – Roddy of the Frozen Peas
              Feb 26 at 16:44














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            3








            3







            Let's see this: Do I need a new photo if my appearance has changed in the passport photo section of the travel.state.gov site. The answer is as follows:




            Only if your appearance has significantly changed from what is in your current passport. Growing a beard or coloring your hair would not constitute a significant change. If you can still be identified from the photo in your current passport, you do not need to apply for a new passport.



            You may have to apply for a new passport if you have:



            Undergone significant facial surgery or trauma

            Added or removed numerous/large facial piercings or tattoos

            Undergone a significant amount of weight loss or gain

            Made a gender transition






            My own interpreation is "As long as you still can be identified from the photo in your current passport after gender transition you are fine." My understanding is that unless you do actual facial surgery, a gender transition will not change your face significantly from one minute to the next. That'd be extremely weird, wouldn't it? Sudden face changes happen in movies but in real life, not so much.






            share|improve this answer















            Let's see this: Do I need a new photo if my appearance has changed in the passport photo section of the travel.state.gov site. The answer is as follows:




            Only if your appearance has significantly changed from what is in your current passport. Growing a beard or coloring your hair would not constitute a significant change. If you can still be identified from the photo in your current passport, you do not need to apply for a new passport.



            You may have to apply for a new passport if you have:



            Undergone significant facial surgery or trauma

            Added or removed numerous/large facial piercings or tattoos

            Undergone a significant amount of weight loss or gain

            Made a gender transition






            My own interpreation is "As long as you still can be identified from the photo in your current passport after gender transition you are fine." My understanding is that unless you do actual facial surgery, a gender transition will not change your face significantly from one minute to the next. That'd be extremely weird, wouldn't it? Sudden face changes happen in movies but in real life, not so much.







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            answered Feb 26 at 4:00









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              Gender transitions often include facial feminisation surgery. The change can be fairly radical.

              – patstew
              Feb 26 at 15:49











            • Thank you for your response. That part of the State department's website was actually what prompted this question, the fact that they explicitly call out "made a gender transition" in the criteria under "you may have to apply...." It is my understanding that the border control officers are trained to look past superficial changes (hair, etc) to consider the underlying structure of the face, but the facial reconstruction surgeries that change one's appearance to be more 'feminine' is what I was concerned about. (Admittedly, I'm no expert in that sort of thing either...)

              – Roddy of the Frozen Peas
              Feb 26 at 16:44














            • 1





              Gender transitions often include facial feminisation surgery. The change can be fairly radical.

              – patstew
              Feb 26 at 15:49











            • Thank you for your response. That part of the State department's website was actually what prompted this question, the fact that they explicitly call out "made a gender transition" in the criteria under "you may have to apply...." It is my understanding that the border control officers are trained to look past superficial changes (hair, etc) to consider the underlying structure of the face, but the facial reconstruction surgeries that change one's appearance to be more 'feminine' is what I was concerned about. (Admittedly, I'm no expert in that sort of thing either...)

              – Roddy of the Frozen Peas
              Feb 26 at 16:44








            1




            1





            Gender transitions often include facial feminisation surgery. The change can be fairly radical.

            – patstew
            Feb 26 at 15:49





            Gender transitions often include facial feminisation surgery. The change can be fairly radical.

            – patstew
            Feb 26 at 15:49













            Thank you for your response. That part of the State department's website was actually what prompted this question, the fact that they explicitly call out "made a gender transition" in the criteria under "you may have to apply...." It is my understanding that the border control officers are trained to look past superficial changes (hair, etc) to consider the underlying structure of the face, but the facial reconstruction surgeries that change one's appearance to be more 'feminine' is what I was concerned about. (Admittedly, I'm no expert in that sort of thing either...)

            – Roddy of the Frozen Peas
            Feb 26 at 16:44





            Thank you for your response. That part of the State department's website was actually what prompted this question, the fact that they explicitly call out "made a gender transition" in the criteria under "you may have to apply...." It is my understanding that the border control officers are trained to look past superficial changes (hair, etc) to consider the underlying structure of the face, but the facial reconstruction surgeries that change one's appearance to be more 'feminine' is what I was concerned about. (Admittedly, I'm no expert in that sort of thing either...)

            – Roddy of the Frozen Peas
            Feb 26 at 16:44


















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