Debian Stretch 9: What changed to keyboard configuration (in X)?












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Up to Debian 8, I could configure the keyboard this way:




setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout us -variant alt-intl



How do I achieve the same effect in Debian Stretch? What has changed?



I do remember that, at some Debian version, I had to do that command after every X start, but it was still OK for me.



Since I installed Debian Stretch, that command will no longer take any effect. Yes, it does think it is working:




setxkbmap -query
rules: evdev
model: pc105
layout: us
variant: alt-intl
options: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp



But it isn´t.



I managed to get it working eventually with:

ibus-setup #interactive
sudo ibus-daemon --xim &



But, apart from being interactive, that thing is random. Sometimes the keyboard is just going back to the crazy default layout it thinks it should apply (once even in the middle of a job coding interview!). I use English language:




echo $LANG
en_US.UTF-8

I selected Netherlands timezone and an international layout with deadkeys; that´s all. I never tried to set anything related to locales that aren´t the standard US-ish-ENG-ish things.



I hope the reason it was changed it is being very useful for many people, because, It´s difficult to understand why configuring such a basic thing just the way it has worked for decades had to become so complicated nowadays.



Things I already tried and had no effect, even after restarting:



1)

sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration



2)

setupcon



3)

sudo setupcon



4)

udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change



5)

sudo apt-get install -y console-data console-setup console-locales keyboard-configuration



6)

sudo apt-get remove ibus -y

followed by an X restart.



7)

rm /var/lib/xkb/*.xkm
rm: cannot remove '/var/lib/xkb/*.xkm': No such file or directory



8)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model evdev -layout us -variant alt-intl



Nothing of that made the configurations made by first setxkbmap to take effect again and kept the same weird default.



Things I already tried and returned the keyboard to vanilla us (without accents/deadkeys):



1)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model evdev -layout us -variant altgr-intl



2)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout us -variant altgr-intl



3)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model evdev -layout us -variant altgr-intl -option eys # no complain of bad options



4)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout us -variant altgr-intl -option #clears option



5)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout us -variant intl -option



6)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout us -variant altgr-intl -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp #control-alt-backspace option










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    What happens if you place the setxkbmapdpkg command in ~/.xsessionrc ?

    – harrymc
    Oct 6 '18 at 15:28











  • Which exact distro & DE are you using?

    – Xen2050
    Oct 11 '18 at 20:52











  • Update: After 10 months "You've earned the "Popular Question" badge (Question with 1,000 views) for "Debian Stretch 9: What changed to keyboard configuration (in X)?"." , spent all my reputations on unsuccessful bounties. Those are for me clear signs that there is no solution.

    – ribamar
    Dec 20 '18 at 13:21


















4















Up to Debian 8, I could configure the keyboard this way:




setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout us -variant alt-intl



How do I achieve the same effect in Debian Stretch? What has changed?



I do remember that, at some Debian version, I had to do that command after every X start, but it was still OK for me.



Since I installed Debian Stretch, that command will no longer take any effect. Yes, it does think it is working:




setxkbmap -query
rules: evdev
model: pc105
layout: us
variant: alt-intl
options: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp



But it isn´t.



I managed to get it working eventually with:

ibus-setup #interactive
sudo ibus-daemon --xim &



But, apart from being interactive, that thing is random. Sometimes the keyboard is just going back to the crazy default layout it thinks it should apply (once even in the middle of a job coding interview!). I use English language:




echo $LANG
en_US.UTF-8

I selected Netherlands timezone and an international layout with deadkeys; that´s all. I never tried to set anything related to locales that aren´t the standard US-ish-ENG-ish things.



I hope the reason it was changed it is being very useful for many people, because, It´s difficult to understand why configuring such a basic thing just the way it has worked for decades had to become so complicated nowadays.



Things I already tried and had no effect, even after restarting:



1)

sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration



2)

setupcon



3)

sudo setupcon



4)

udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change



5)

sudo apt-get install -y console-data console-setup console-locales keyboard-configuration



6)

sudo apt-get remove ibus -y

followed by an X restart.



7)

rm /var/lib/xkb/*.xkm
rm: cannot remove '/var/lib/xkb/*.xkm': No such file or directory



8)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model evdev -layout us -variant alt-intl



Nothing of that made the configurations made by first setxkbmap to take effect again and kept the same weird default.



Things I already tried and returned the keyboard to vanilla us (without accents/deadkeys):



1)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model evdev -layout us -variant altgr-intl



2)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout us -variant altgr-intl



3)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model evdev -layout us -variant altgr-intl -option eys # no complain of bad options



4)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout us -variant altgr-intl -option #clears option



5)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout us -variant intl -option



6)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout us -variant altgr-intl -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp #control-alt-backspace option










share|improve this question




















  • 1





    What happens if you place the setxkbmapdpkg command in ~/.xsessionrc ?

    – harrymc
    Oct 6 '18 at 15:28











  • Which exact distro & DE are you using?

    – Xen2050
    Oct 11 '18 at 20:52











  • Update: After 10 months "You've earned the "Popular Question" badge (Question with 1,000 views) for "Debian Stretch 9: What changed to keyboard configuration (in X)?"." , spent all my reputations on unsuccessful bounties. Those are for me clear signs that there is no solution.

    – ribamar
    Dec 20 '18 at 13:21
















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Up to Debian 8, I could configure the keyboard this way:




setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout us -variant alt-intl



How do I achieve the same effect in Debian Stretch? What has changed?



I do remember that, at some Debian version, I had to do that command after every X start, but it was still OK for me.



Since I installed Debian Stretch, that command will no longer take any effect. Yes, it does think it is working:




setxkbmap -query
rules: evdev
model: pc105
layout: us
variant: alt-intl
options: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp



But it isn´t.



I managed to get it working eventually with:

ibus-setup #interactive
sudo ibus-daemon --xim &



But, apart from being interactive, that thing is random. Sometimes the keyboard is just going back to the crazy default layout it thinks it should apply (once even in the middle of a job coding interview!). I use English language:




echo $LANG
en_US.UTF-8

I selected Netherlands timezone and an international layout with deadkeys; that´s all. I never tried to set anything related to locales that aren´t the standard US-ish-ENG-ish things.



I hope the reason it was changed it is being very useful for many people, because, It´s difficult to understand why configuring such a basic thing just the way it has worked for decades had to become so complicated nowadays.



Things I already tried and had no effect, even after restarting:



1)

sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration



2)

setupcon



3)

sudo setupcon



4)

udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change



5)

sudo apt-get install -y console-data console-setup console-locales keyboard-configuration



6)

sudo apt-get remove ibus -y

followed by an X restart.



7)

rm /var/lib/xkb/*.xkm
rm: cannot remove '/var/lib/xkb/*.xkm': No such file or directory



8)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model evdev -layout us -variant alt-intl



Nothing of that made the configurations made by first setxkbmap to take effect again and kept the same weird default.



Things I already tried and returned the keyboard to vanilla us (without accents/deadkeys):



1)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model evdev -layout us -variant altgr-intl



2)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout us -variant altgr-intl



3)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model evdev -layout us -variant altgr-intl -option eys # no complain of bad options



4)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout us -variant altgr-intl -option #clears option



5)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout us -variant intl -option



6)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout us -variant altgr-intl -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp #control-alt-backspace option










share|improve this question
















Up to Debian 8, I could configure the keyboard this way:




setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout us -variant alt-intl



How do I achieve the same effect in Debian Stretch? What has changed?



I do remember that, at some Debian version, I had to do that command after every X start, but it was still OK for me.



Since I installed Debian Stretch, that command will no longer take any effect. Yes, it does think it is working:




setxkbmap -query
rules: evdev
model: pc105
layout: us
variant: alt-intl
options: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp



But it isn´t.



I managed to get it working eventually with:

ibus-setup #interactive
sudo ibus-daemon --xim &



But, apart from being interactive, that thing is random. Sometimes the keyboard is just going back to the crazy default layout it thinks it should apply (once even in the middle of a job coding interview!). I use English language:




echo $LANG
en_US.UTF-8

I selected Netherlands timezone and an international layout with deadkeys; that´s all. I never tried to set anything related to locales that aren´t the standard US-ish-ENG-ish things.



I hope the reason it was changed it is being very useful for many people, because, It´s difficult to understand why configuring such a basic thing just the way it has worked for decades had to become so complicated nowadays.



Things I already tried and had no effect, even after restarting:



1)

sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration



2)

setupcon



3)

sudo setupcon



4)

udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change



5)

sudo apt-get install -y console-data console-setup console-locales keyboard-configuration



6)

sudo apt-get remove ibus -y

followed by an X restart.



7)

rm /var/lib/xkb/*.xkm
rm: cannot remove '/var/lib/xkb/*.xkm': No such file or directory



8)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model evdev -layout us -variant alt-intl



Nothing of that made the configurations made by first setxkbmap to take effect again and kept the same weird default.



Things I already tried and returned the keyboard to vanilla us (without accents/deadkeys):



1)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model evdev -layout us -variant altgr-intl



2)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout us -variant altgr-intl



3)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model evdev -layout us -variant altgr-intl -option eys # no complain of bad options



4)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout us -variant altgr-intl -option #clears option



5)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout us -variant intl -option



6)

setxkbmap -rules evdev -model pc105 -layout us -variant altgr-intl -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp #control-alt-backspace option







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  • 1





    What happens if you place the setxkbmapdpkg command in ~/.xsessionrc ?

    – harrymc
    Oct 6 '18 at 15:28











  • Which exact distro & DE are you using?

    – Xen2050
    Oct 11 '18 at 20:52











  • Update: After 10 months "You've earned the "Popular Question" badge (Question with 1,000 views) for "Debian Stretch 9: What changed to keyboard configuration (in X)?"." , spent all my reputations on unsuccessful bounties. Those are for me clear signs that there is no solution.

    – ribamar
    Dec 20 '18 at 13:21
















  • 1





    What happens if you place the setxkbmapdpkg command in ~/.xsessionrc ?

    – harrymc
    Oct 6 '18 at 15:28











  • Which exact distro & DE are you using?

    – Xen2050
    Oct 11 '18 at 20:52











  • Update: After 10 months "You've earned the "Popular Question" badge (Question with 1,000 views) for "Debian Stretch 9: What changed to keyboard configuration (in X)?"." , spent all my reputations on unsuccessful bounties. Those are for me clear signs that there is no solution.

    – ribamar
    Dec 20 '18 at 13:21










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What happens if you place the setxkbmapdpkg command in ~/.xsessionrc ?

– harrymc
Oct 6 '18 at 15:28





What happens if you place the setxkbmapdpkg command in ~/.xsessionrc ?

– harrymc
Oct 6 '18 at 15:28













Which exact distro & DE are you using?

– Xen2050
Oct 11 '18 at 20:52





Which exact distro & DE are you using?

– Xen2050
Oct 11 '18 at 20:52













Update: After 10 months "You've earned the "Popular Question" badge (Question with 1,000 views) for "Debian Stretch 9: What changed to keyboard configuration (in X)?"." , spent all my reputations on unsuccessful bounties. Those are for me clear signs that there is no solution.

– ribamar
Dec 20 '18 at 13:21







Update: After 10 months "You've earned the "Popular Question" badge (Question with 1,000 views) for "Debian Stretch 9: What changed to keyboard configuration (in X)?"." , spent all my reputations on unsuccessful bounties. Those are for me clear signs that there is no solution.

– ribamar
Dec 20 '18 at 13:21












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I was arount 3 hours dealing with this, on a Debian 9 with xfce4 there was no way to put default keyboard settings using any command even using the UI keyboard configuration of xfce4...
BUT...
this worked just fine:



echo '
# Set default keyboard for X:
sleep 2
if [ -n $DISPLAY ] ; then
setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout es -variant winkeys -print | xkbcomp - $DISPLAY
fi
'
| sudo tee -a ~/.xsessionrc


the sleep command is mandatory in order to get it working.






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    This worked for me:



    sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
    sudo service keyboard-setup restart


    And then restart






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    • not for me -- it was the first thing I tried and surely I tried restarting it.

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    I was arount 3 hours dealing with this, on a Debian 9 with xfce4 there was no way to put default keyboard settings using any command even using the UI keyboard configuration of xfce4...
    BUT...
    this worked just fine:



    echo '
    # Set default keyboard for X:
    sleep 2
    if [ -n $DISPLAY ] ; then
    setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout es -variant winkeys -print | xkbcomp - $DISPLAY
    fi
    '
    | sudo tee -a ~/.xsessionrc


    the sleep command is mandatory in order to get it working.






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      I was arount 3 hours dealing with this, on a Debian 9 with xfce4 there was no way to put default keyboard settings using any command even using the UI keyboard configuration of xfce4...
      BUT...
      this worked just fine:



      echo '
      # Set default keyboard for X:
      sleep 2
      if [ -n $DISPLAY ] ; then
      setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout es -variant winkeys -print | xkbcomp - $DISPLAY
      fi
      '
      | sudo tee -a ~/.xsessionrc


      the sleep command is mandatory in order to get it working.






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        I was arount 3 hours dealing with this, on a Debian 9 with xfce4 there was no way to put default keyboard settings using any command even using the UI keyboard configuration of xfce4...
        BUT...
        this worked just fine:



        echo '
        # Set default keyboard for X:
        sleep 2
        if [ -n $DISPLAY ] ; then
        setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout es -variant winkeys -print | xkbcomp - $DISPLAY
        fi
        '
        | sudo tee -a ~/.xsessionrc


        the sleep command is mandatory in order to get it working.






        share|improve this answer













        I was arount 3 hours dealing with this, on a Debian 9 with xfce4 there was no way to put default keyboard settings using any command even using the UI keyboard configuration of xfce4...
        BUT...
        this worked just fine:



        echo '
        # Set default keyboard for X:
        sleep 2
        if [ -n $DISPLAY ] ; then
        setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout es -variant winkeys -print | xkbcomp - $DISPLAY
        fi
        '
        | sudo tee -a ~/.xsessionrc


        the sleep command is mandatory in order to get it working.







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        answered Feb 26 at 5:31









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            This worked for me:



            sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
            sudo service keyboard-setup restart


            And then restart






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            • not for me -- it was the first thing I tried and surely I tried restarting it.

              – ribamar
              Oct 6 '18 at 13:54
















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            This worked for me:



            sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
            sudo service keyboard-setup restart


            And then restart






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            • not for me -- it was the first thing I tried and surely I tried restarting it.

              – ribamar
              Oct 6 '18 at 13:54














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            This worked for me:



            sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
            sudo service keyboard-setup restart


            And then restart






            share|improve this answer













            This worked for me:



            sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
            sudo service keyboard-setup restart


            And then restart







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            • not for me -- it was the first thing I tried and surely I tried restarting it.

              – ribamar
              Oct 6 '18 at 13:54



















            • not for me -- it was the first thing I tried and surely I tried restarting it.

              – ribamar
              Oct 6 '18 at 13:54

















            not for me -- it was the first thing I tried and surely I tried restarting it.

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            not for me -- it was the first thing I tried and surely I tried restarting it.

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