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I understand the reason we're only getting data slowly from New Horizons, but I was wondering ... did the probe flip around to get hi-resolution photos of the back side of Ultima Thule as it passed? If so, I know it will be a while before the data gets back to Earth. I'm sure the illumunation isn't much worse on that side than on the sun-facing side ... I ask because I'm wondering if the crater density might be higher on the other side. It looks like the greatest density is on the "top" (of the recently released higher-resolution photo), but I was wondering if the higher density wraps around to the back side? Or does it just look like this because that side is where the shadows show off craters the most clearly?










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    I don't have time to cite a full answer--but I would say it probably did not, both because the photos would be dark, and because the camera/spacecraft likely couldn't slew fast enough to spin around and take photos while the body was within a reasonable distance.
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    Ultima Thule is further away, but the Sun would still be more than 200 times brighter than a full moon. The far side would only be lit by starlight, much worse illumination.
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    @spacetyper there's plenty of time for NH to slew around, it was in 'good photo' range of Ultima Thule for ~1 day on each side of closest approach.
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I understand the reason we're only getting data slowly from New Horizons, but I was wondering ... did the probe flip around to get hi-resolution photos of the back side of Ultima Thule as it passed? If so, I know it will be a while before the data gets back to Earth. I'm sure the illumunation isn't much worse on that side than on the sun-facing side ... I ask because I'm wondering if the crater density might be higher on the other side. It looks like the greatest density is on the "top" (of the recently released higher-resolution photo), but I was wondering if the higher density wraps around to the back side? Or does it just look like this because that side is where the shadows show off craters the most clearly?










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    I don't have time to cite a full answer--but I would say it probably did not, both because the photos would be dark, and because the camera/spacecraft likely couldn't slew fast enough to spin around and take photos while the body was within a reasonable distance.
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    "I'm sure the illumunation isn't much worse on that side than on the sun-facing side" Not directly an answer to your question, but this isn't right. I remember reading around the Pluto encounter that at Pluto the Sun is equivalent to about 400 full moons, and that noon on Pluto is equivalent to 8-10 min after sunset on Earth - dim but far from dark. Source: skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/pluto-time-061620155
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    Ultima Thule is further away, but the Sun would still be more than 200 times brighter than a full moon. The far side would only be lit by starlight, much worse illumination.
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    @spacetyper there's plenty of time for NH to slew around, it was in 'good photo' range of Ultima Thule for ~1 day on each side of closest approach.
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I understand the reason we're only getting data slowly from New Horizons, but I was wondering ... did the probe flip around to get hi-resolution photos of the back side of Ultima Thule as it passed? If so, I know it will be a while before the data gets back to Earth. I'm sure the illumunation isn't much worse on that side than on the sun-facing side ... I ask because I'm wondering if the crater density might be higher on the other side. It looks like the greatest density is on the "top" (of the recently released higher-resolution photo), but I was wondering if the higher density wraps around to the back side? Or does it just look like this because that side is where the shadows show off craters the most clearly?










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I understand the reason we're only getting data slowly from New Horizons, but I was wondering ... did the probe flip around to get hi-resolution photos of the back side of Ultima Thule as it passed? If so, I know it will be a while before the data gets back to Earth. I'm sure the illumunation isn't much worse on that side than on the sun-facing side ... I ask because I'm wondering if the crater density might be higher on the other side. It looks like the greatest density is on the "top" (of the recently released higher-resolution photo), but I was wondering if the higher density wraps around to the back side? Or does it just look like this because that side is where the shadows show off craters the most clearly?







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    I don't have time to cite a full answer--but I would say it probably did not, both because the photos would be dark, and because the camera/spacecraft likely couldn't slew fast enough to spin around and take photos while the body was within a reasonable distance.
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    Ultima Thule is further away, but the Sun would still be more than 200 times brighter than a full moon. The far side would only be lit by starlight, much worse illumination.
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    @spacetyper there's plenty of time for NH to slew around, it was in 'good photo' range of Ultima Thule for ~1 day on each side of closest approach.
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    I don't have time to cite a full answer--but I would say it probably did not, both because the photos would be dark, and because the camera/spacecraft likely couldn't slew fast enough to spin around and take photos while the body was within a reasonable distance.
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    "I'm sure the illumunation isn't much worse on that side than on the sun-facing side" Not directly an answer to your question, but this isn't right. I remember reading around the Pluto encounter that at Pluto the Sun is equivalent to about 400 full moons, and that noon on Pluto is equivalent to 8-10 min after sunset on Earth - dim but far from dark. Source: skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/pluto-time-061620155
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    Ultima Thule is further away, but the Sun would still be more than 200 times brighter than a full moon. The far side would only be lit by starlight, much worse illumination.
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    @spacetyper there's plenty of time for NH to slew around, it was in 'good photo' range of Ultima Thule for ~1 day on each side of closest approach.
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I don't have time to cite a full answer--but I would say it probably did not, both because the photos would be dark, and because the camera/spacecraft likely couldn't slew fast enough to spin around and take photos while the body was within a reasonable distance.
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Ultima Thule is further away, but the Sun would still be more than 200 times brighter than a full moon. The far side would only be lit by starlight, much worse illumination.
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Remember that Ultima Thule is rotating. Some parts not visible in the images downlinked so far will be in other images yet to come down. But the rotation axis appears to point roughly—very roughly—at the sun, so parts of Ultima Thule remained in darkness for the entire encounter.



It's risky pointing the camera back at Ultima Thule for recession images. For the Pluto encounter, the position, size, and trajectory of Pluto and the spacecraft's trajectory were known well enough to put New Horizons in Pluto's shadow (a "Sun occultation") for those recession images. This cancelled the danger of getting direct or single-reflection sunlight on the camera's focal plane, which can burn out pixels. Ultima Thule's size and ephemeris were much less well known, making a Sun occultation a very low probability and the risk of burning out part of the imaging instrument much higher. Since the New Horizons team is thinking about encountering another Kuiper Belt object, they would be reticent to damage their imager.






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    So, as I understand it, it's not just about not being able to guarantee the occultation - wouldn't the greater uncertainty mean that they wouldn't have known when to start turning and at what rate? As I understand it, they've got a lot of blank shots because they didn't know when Ultima Thule which actually appear in the fixed frame of camera positioning.
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    @Damien_The_Unbeliever Exactly right! The uncertiainties aren't just in UT's plane-of-the-sky position (as seen from Earth) but in the range dimension as well, and that means the timing for turns is very uncertain. All 3 dimensions of uncertainty combine to make the imaging strategy: figure out the region where UT is likely to be at a given time, and blanket that region with a mosaic. Most of the images will be blank, but the few that do get it will be gold.
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Photos of the night side were taken for Pluto:



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That's pretty dark. I'm not sure usable photos can be made of the night side of Ultima Thule.



I've looked through the LORRI images taken of Pluto's night side (page 124-109 of the photo gallery). I found no nightside images with good surface detail.



This is an example of an image with longer exposure (400 ms):



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It has some variation in brightness, but it's of the "there might be a continent here" variety. Too vague to give much information.



There are photos that show detail near the terminator:



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The pre-encounter photos of this region have much better detail. This is helped by Pluto's 6-day rotation period, so all of the surface could be imaged in sunlight.



The best photos we have of Pluto have been stitched together here:



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    Hobbes - Not necessarily. I was aware of this very cool photo. But the contrast was optimized to show the atmospheric haze, not the surface detail. Ultima Thule won't have any atmosphere, so I would think it would be optimized to show surface detail instead. And for Uwe ... I'm pretty sure starlight is all you have out there. But remember the sun is so far away it's not much bigger than a star anyway.
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Yes!



Hot off the press (or GIF-printer) from New Horizons’ Evocative Farewell Glance at Ultima Thule



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Mission scientists created this "departure movie" from 14 different images taken by the New Horizons Long Range Reconnaissance Imager (LORRI) shortly after the spacecraft flew past the Kuiper Belt object nicknamed Ultima Thule (officially named 2014 MU69) on Jan. 1, 2019. The central frame of this sequence was taken on Jan. 1 at 05:42:42 UT (12:42 a.m. EST), when New Horizons was 5,494 miles (8,862 kilometers) beyond Ultima Thule, some 4.1 billion miles (6.6 billion kilometers) from Earth. The object’s illuminated crescent is blurred in the individual frames because a relatively long exposure time was used during this rapid scan to boost the camera’s signal level – but the science team combined and processed the images to remove the blurring and sharpen the thin crescent. This is the farthest movie of any object in our Solar System ever made by any spacecraft. The images reveal an outline of the “hidden” portion of the Ultima Thule that was not illuminated by the Sun as the spacecraft zipped by, but can be “traced out” because it blocked the view to background stars also in the image.



Credits: NASA/Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory/Southwest Research Institute/National Optical Astronomy Observatory




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But...



Don't Panic!



According to the New Horizons Mission page February 8, 2019 New Horizons' Evocative Farewell Glance at Ultima Thule; Images Confirm the Kuiper Belt Object's Highly Unusual, Flatter Shape:




These aren't the last Ultima Thule images New Horizons will send back to Earth



– in fact, many more are to come -- but they are the final views New Horizons captured of the KBO (officially named 2014 MU69) as it raced away at over 31,000 miles per hour (50,000 kilometers per hour) on Jan. 1. The images were taken nearly 10 minutes after New Horizons crossed its closest approach point.



"This really is an incredible image sequence, taken by a spacecraft exploring a small world four billion miles away from Earth," said mission Principal Investigator Alan Stern, of Southwest Research Institute. "Nothing quite like this has ever been captured in imagery."



The newly released images also contain important scientific information about the shape of Ultima Thule, which is turning out to be one of the major discoveries from the flyby.



The first close-up images of Ultima Thule – with its two distinct and, apparently, spherical segments – had observers calling it a "snowman." However, more analysis of approach images and these new departure images have changed that view, in part by revealing an outline of the portion of the KBO that was not illuminated by the Sun, but could be "traced out" as it blocked the view to background stars.



Stringing 14 of these images into a short departure movie, New Horizons scientists can confirm that the two sections (or "lobes") of Ultima Thule are not spherical. The larger lobe, nicknamed "Ultima," more closely resembles a giant pancake and the smaller lobe, nicknamed "Thule," is shaped like a dented walnut.



"We had an impression of Ultima Thule based on the limited number of images returned in the days around the flyby, but seeing more data has significantly changed our view," Stern said. "It would be closer to reality to say Ultima Thule's shape is flatter, like a pancake. But more importantly, the new images are creating scientific puzzles about how such an object could even be formed. We've never seen something like this orbiting the Sun."




below: quick plot of data from Horizons, see this answer for details.



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    Upon further reflection (haha) I think a photo from the other side by starlight, while possible, probably won't reveal craters in detail very well. For the same reason the middle of the new hi-resolution photo shows detail only near the top, not in the middle of Ultima (I think that's the nickname for the larger half). It's all about contrast ... on the "back" side, it will be equally illuminated from all sides by stars all around. Sol isn't very big/bright out there, but it IS bigger/brighter than any other stars, so it forms shadows when you increase the contrast enough. I'm thinking that may not happen on the other side because it's being illuminated evenly by stars all around. You would only see changes in coloration due to geological differences, not height.






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      starlight (barring our own star) is next to nothing within the scope of what is needed to expose an image on even the best ccd sensors (which collect more light typically than cmos)
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      And even if you managed a long enough exposure (many hours), all detail would be lost to the motion blur of the 36,000 mph camera.
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    Is there enough light for a night side photo of Ultima Thule?



    There is only starlight illuminating the night side, I use the intensity of sunlight (about 100,000 Lux) and starlight (about 0.001 Lux) on the surface of Earth to calculate the ratio there, sunlight is about 100 million times brighter than starlight at 1 AU distance to the Sun.



    The mean distance of Ultima Thule to the Sun is about 44 AU, so the sunlight intensity there is 1/2000 of that at Earth. See the Inverse-square law of Wikipedia.



    The intensity of starlight at Ultima Thule is the same as at Earth. The distance to the closest stars is huge when compared to 44 AU.



    Therefore the ratio between sunlight to starlight at Ultima Thule is about 100 million divided by 2000 that is 50,000 to 1.



    If the exposure time for a good photo of the day side of Ultima Thule is 0.01 seconds, a night side photo would take about 500 seconds or 8 minutes, much too long for a fast spaceprobe like New Horizons.






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      Remember that Ultima Thule is rotating. Some parts not visible in the images downlinked so far will be in other images yet to come down. But the rotation axis appears to point roughly—very roughly—at the sun, so parts of Ultima Thule remained in darkness for the entire encounter.



      It's risky pointing the camera back at Ultima Thule for recession images. For the Pluto encounter, the position, size, and trajectory of Pluto and the spacecraft's trajectory were known well enough to put New Horizons in Pluto's shadow (a "Sun occultation") for those recession images. This cancelled the danger of getting direct or single-reflection sunlight on the camera's focal plane, which can burn out pixels. Ultima Thule's size and ephemeris were much less well known, making a Sun occultation a very low probability and the risk of burning out part of the imaging instrument much higher. Since the New Horizons team is thinking about encountering another Kuiper Belt object, they would be reticent to damage their imager.






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        So, as I understand it, it's not just about not being able to guarantee the occultation - wouldn't the greater uncertainty mean that they wouldn't have known when to start turning and at what rate? As I understand it, they've got a lot of blank shots because they didn't know when Ultima Thule which actually appear in the fixed frame of camera positioning.
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        @Damien_The_Unbeliever Exactly right! The uncertiainties aren't just in UT's plane-of-the-sky position (as seen from Earth) but in the range dimension as well, and that means the timing for turns is very uncertain. All 3 dimensions of uncertainty combine to make the imaging strategy: figure out the region where UT is likely to be at a given time, and blanket that region with a mosaic. Most of the images will be blank, but the few that do get it will be gold.
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      Remember that Ultima Thule is rotating. Some parts not visible in the images downlinked so far will be in other images yet to come down. But the rotation axis appears to point roughly—very roughly—at the sun, so parts of Ultima Thule remained in darkness for the entire encounter.



      It's risky pointing the camera back at Ultima Thule for recession images. For the Pluto encounter, the position, size, and trajectory of Pluto and the spacecraft's trajectory were known well enough to put New Horizons in Pluto's shadow (a "Sun occultation") for those recession images. This cancelled the danger of getting direct or single-reflection sunlight on the camera's focal plane, which can burn out pixels. Ultima Thule's size and ephemeris were much less well known, making a Sun occultation a very low probability and the risk of burning out part of the imaging instrument much higher. Since the New Horizons team is thinking about encountering another Kuiper Belt object, they would be reticent to damage their imager.






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        So, as I understand it, it's not just about not being able to guarantee the occultation - wouldn't the greater uncertainty mean that they wouldn't have known when to start turning and at what rate? As I understand it, they've got a lot of blank shots because they didn't know when Ultima Thule which actually appear in the fixed frame of camera positioning.
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        @Damien_The_Unbeliever Exactly right! The uncertiainties aren't just in UT's plane-of-the-sky position (as seen from Earth) but in the range dimension as well, and that means the timing for turns is very uncertain. All 3 dimensions of uncertainty combine to make the imaging strategy: figure out the region where UT is likely to be at a given time, and blanket that region with a mosaic. Most of the images will be blank, but the few that do get it will be gold.
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      Remember that Ultima Thule is rotating. Some parts not visible in the images downlinked so far will be in other images yet to come down. But the rotation axis appears to point roughly—very roughly—at the sun, so parts of Ultima Thule remained in darkness for the entire encounter.



      It's risky pointing the camera back at Ultima Thule for recession images. For the Pluto encounter, the position, size, and trajectory of Pluto and the spacecraft's trajectory were known well enough to put New Horizons in Pluto's shadow (a "Sun occultation") for those recession images. This cancelled the danger of getting direct or single-reflection sunlight on the camera's focal plane, which can burn out pixels. Ultima Thule's size and ephemeris were much less well known, making a Sun occultation a very low probability and the risk of burning out part of the imaging instrument much higher. Since the New Horizons team is thinking about encountering another Kuiper Belt object, they would be reticent to damage their imager.






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      Remember that Ultima Thule is rotating. Some parts not visible in the images downlinked so far will be in other images yet to come down. But the rotation axis appears to point roughly—very roughly—at the sun, so parts of Ultima Thule remained in darkness for the entire encounter.



      It's risky pointing the camera back at Ultima Thule for recession images. For the Pluto encounter, the position, size, and trajectory of Pluto and the spacecraft's trajectory were known well enough to put New Horizons in Pluto's shadow (a "Sun occultation") for those recession images. This cancelled the danger of getting direct or single-reflection sunlight on the camera's focal plane, which can burn out pixels. Ultima Thule's size and ephemeris were much less well known, making a Sun occultation a very low probability and the risk of burning out part of the imaging instrument much higher. Since the New Horizons team is thinking about encountering another Kuiper Belt object, they would be reticent to damage their imager.







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        So, as I understand it, it's not just about not being able to guarantee the occultation - wouldn't the greater uncertainty mean that they wouldn't have known when to start turning and at what rate? As I understand it, they've got a lot of blank shots because they didn't know when Ultima Thule which actually appear in the fixed frame of camera positioning.
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        @Damien_The_Unbeliever Exactly right! The uncertiainties aren't just in UT's plane-of-the-sky position (as seen from Earth) but in the range dimension as well, and that means the timing for turns is very uncertain. All 3 dimensions of uncertainty combine to make the imaging strategy: figure out the region where UT is likely to be at a given time, and blanket that region with a mosaic. Most of the images will be blank, but the few that do get it will be gold.
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        So, as I understand it, it's not just about not being able to guarantee the occultation - wouldn't the greater uncertainty mean that they wouldn't have known when to start turning and at what rate? As I understand it, they've got a lot of blank shots because they didn't know when Ultima Thule which actually appear in the fixed frame of camera positioning.
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        – Damien_The_Unbeliever
        Feb 1 at 17:32










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        @Damien_The_Unbeliever Exactly right! The uncertiainties aren't just in UT's plane-of-the-sky position (as seen from Earth) but in the range dimension as well, and that means the timing for turns is very uncertain. All 3 dimensions of uncertainty combine to make the imaging strategy: figure out the region where UT is likely to be at a given time, and blanket that region with a mosaic. Most of the images will be blank, but the few that do get it will be gold.
        $endgroup$
        – Tom Spilker
        Feb 1 at 19:55








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      So, as I understand it, it's not just about not being able to guarantee the occultation - wouldn't the greater uncertainty mean that they wouldn't have known when to start turning and at what rate? As I understand it, they've got a lot of blank shots because they didn't know when Ultima Thule which actually appear in the fixed frame of camera positioning.
      $endgroup$
      – Damien_The_Unbeliever
      Feb 1 at 17:32




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      So, as I understand it, it's not just about not being able to guarantee the occultation - wouldn't the greater uncertainty mean that they wouldn't have known when to start turning and at what rate? As I understand it, they've got a lot of blank shots because they didn't know when Ultima Thule which actually appear in the fixed frame of camera positioning.
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      Feb 1 at 17:32












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      @Damien_The_Unbeliever Exactly right! The uncertiainties aren't just in UT's plane-of-the-sky position (as seen from Earth) but in the range dimension as well, and that means the timing for turns is very uncertain. All 3 dimensions of uncertainty combine to make the imaging strategy: figure out the region where UT is likely to be at a given time, and blanket that region with a mosaic. Most of the images will be blank, but the few that do get it will be gold.
      $endgroup$
      – Tom Spilker
      Feb 1 at 19:55




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      @Damien_The_Unbeliever Exactly right! The uncertiainties aren't just in UT's plane-of-the-sky position (as seen from Earth) but in the range dimension as well, and that means the timing for turns is very uncertain. All 3 dimensions of uncertainty combine to make the imaging strategy: figure out the region where UT is likely to be at a given time, and blanket that region with a mosaic. Most of the images will be blank, but the few that do get it will be gold.
      $endgroup$
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      Photos of the night side were taken for Pluto:



      enter image description here



      That's pretty dark. I'm not sure usable photos can be made of the night side of Ultima Thule.



      I've looked through the LORRI images taken of Pluto's night side (page 124-109 of the photo gallery). I found no nightside images with good surface detail.



      This is an example of an image with longer exposure (400 ms):



      enter image description here



      It has some variation in brightness, but it's of the "there might be a continent here" variety. Too vague to give much information.



      There are photos that show detail near the terminator:



      enter image description here



      The pre-encounter photos of this region have much better detail. This is helped by Pluto's 6-day rotation period, so all of the surface could be imaged in sunlight.



      The best photos we have of Pluto have been stitched together here:



      enter image description here



      (high-res version here)






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        Is there any other light than starlight illuminating the night side of Pluto or Ultima Thule?
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        – Uwe
        Jan 31 at 17:20






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        Hobbes - Not necessarily. I was aware of this very cool photo. But the contrast was optimized to show the atmospheric haze, not the surface detail. Ultima Thule won't have any atmosphere, so I would think it would be optimized to show surface detail instead. And for Uwe ... I'm pretty sure starlight is all you have out there. But remember the sun is so far away it's not much bigger than a star anyway.
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        – Fredrick Trafton
        Jan 31 at 17:25








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        The sun is much brighter than that, see this website that helps you experience how bright the daylight on Pluto is.
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        Jan 31 at 20:48






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        @FredrickTrafton Sunlight at Pluto is much brighter than starlight there, about 100,000 times brighter
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        – Uwe
        Jan 31 at 21:08






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        @Uwe: Maybe the designers should have equipped their camera with a really big flash? (You do realize I'm being sarcastic?)
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      Photos of the night side were taken for Pluto:



      enter image description here



      That's pretty dark. I'm not sure usable photos can be made of the night side of Ultima Thule.



      I've looked through the LORRI images taken of Pluto's night side (page 124-109 of the photo gallery). I found no nightside images with good surface detail.



      This is an example of an image with longer exposure (400 ms):



      enter image description here



      It has some variation in brightness, but it's of the "there might be a continent here" variety. Too vague to give much information.



      There are photos that show detail near the terminator:



      enter image description here



      The pre-encounter photos of this region have much better detail. This is helped by Pluto's 6-day rotation period, so all of the surface could be imaged in sunlight.



      The best photos we have of Pluto have been stitched together here:



      enter image description here



      (high-res version here)






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        Is there any other light than starlight illuminating the night side of Pluto or Ultima Thule?
        $endgroup$
        – Uwe
        Jan 31 at 17:20






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        Hobbes - Not necessarily. I was aware of this very cool photo. But the contrast was optimized to show the atmospheric haze, not the surface detail. Ultima Thule won't have any atmosphere, so I would think it would be optimized to show surface detail instead. And for Uwe ... I'm pretty sure starlight is all you have out there. But remember the sun is so far away it's not much bigger than a star anyway.
        $endgroup$
        – Fredrick Trafton
        Jan 31 at 17:25








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        The sun is much brighter than that, see this website that helps you experience how bright the daylight on Pluto is.
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        Jan 31 at 20:48






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        @FredrickTrafton Sunlight at Pluto is much brighter than starlight there, about 100,000 times brighter
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        Jan 31 at 21:08






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        @Uwe: Maybe the designers should have equipped their camera with a really big flash? (You do realize I'm being sarcastic?)
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      Photos of the night side were taken for Pluto:



      enter image description here



      That's pretty dark. I'm not sure usable photos can be made of the night side of Ultima Thule.



      I've looked through the LORRI images taken of Pluto's night side (page 124-109 of the photo gallery). I found no nightside images with good surface detail.



      This is an example of an image with longer exposure (400 ms):



      enter image description here



      It has some variation in brightness, but it's of the "there might be a continent here" variety. Too vague to give much information.



      There are photos that show detail near the terminator:



      enter image description here



      The pre-encounter photos of this region have much better detail. This is helped by Pluto's 6-day rotation period, so all of the surface could be imaged in sunlight.



      The best photos we have of Pluto have been stitched together here:



      enter image description here



      (high-res version here)






      share|improve this answer











      $endgroup$



      Photos of the night side were taken for Pluto:



      enter image description here



      That's pretty dark. I'm not sure usable photos can be made of the night side of Ultima Thule.



      I've looked through the LORRI images taken of Pluto's night side (page 124-109 of the photo gallery). I found no nightside images with good surface detail.



      This is an example of an image with longer exposure (400 ms):



      enter image description here



      It has some variation in brightness, but it's of the "there might be a continent here" variety. Too vague to give much information.



      There are photos that show detail near the terminator:



      enter image description here



      The pre-encounter photos of this region have much better detail. This is helped by Pluto's 6-day rotation period, so all of the surface could be imaged in sunlight.



      The best photos we have of Pluto have been stitched together here:



      enter image description here



      (high-res version here)







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        Is there any other light than starlight illuminating the night side of Pluto or Ultima Thule?
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        – Uwe
        Jan 31 at 17:20






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        Hobbes - Not necessarily. I was aware of this very cool photo. But the contrast was optimized to show the atmospheric haze, not the surface detail. Ultima Thule won't have any atmosphere, so I would think it would be optimized to show surface detail instead. And for Uwe ... I'm pretty sure starlight is all you have out there. But remember the sun is so far away it's not much bigger than a star anyway.
        $endgroup$
        – Fredrick Trafton
        Jan 31 at 17:25








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        The sun is much brighter than that, see this website that helps you experience how bright the daylight on Pluto is.
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        Jan 31 at 20:48






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        @FredrickTrafton Sunlight at Pluto is much brighter than starlight there, about 100,000 times brighter
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        Jan 31 at 21:08






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        @Uwe: Maybe the designers should have equipped their camera with a really big flash? (You do realize I'm being sarcastic?)
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        Is there any other light than starlight illuminating the night side of Pluto or Ultima Thule?
        $endgroup$
        – Uwe
        Jan 31 at 17:20






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        Hobbes - Not necessarily. I was aware of this very cool photo. But the contrast was optimized to show the atmospheric haze, not the surface detail. Ultima Thule won't have any atmosphere, so I would think it would be optimized to show surface detail instead. And for Uwe ... I'm pretty sure starlight is all you have out there. But remember the sun is so far away it's not much bigger than a star anyway.
        $endgroup$
        – Fredrick Trafton
        Jan 31 at 17:25








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        The sun is much brighter than that, see this website that helps you experience how bright the daylight on Pluto is.
        $endgroup$
        – Hobbes
        Jan 31 at 20:48






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        @FredrickTrafton Sunlight at Pluto is much brighter than starlight there, about 100,000 times brighter
        $endgroup$
        – Uwe
        Jan 31 at 21:08






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        @Uwe: Maybe the designers should have equipped their camera with a really big flash? (You do realize I'm being sarcastic?)
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      Is there any other light than starlight illuminating the night side of Pluto or Ultima Thule?
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      – Uwe
      Jan 31 at 17:20




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      Is there any other light than starlight illuminating the night side of Pluto or Ultima Thule?
      $endgroup$
      – Uwe
      Jan 31 at 17:20




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      Hobbes - Not necessarily. I was aware of this very cool photo. But the contrast was optimized to show the atmospheric haze, not the surface detail. Ultima Thule won't have any atmosphere, so I would think it would be optimized to show surface detail instead. And for Uwe ... I'm pretty sure starlight is all you have out there. But remember the sun is so far away it's not much bigger than a star anyway.
      $endgroup$
      – Fredrick Trafton
      Jan 31 at 17:25






      $begingroup$
      Hobbes - Not necessarily. I was aware of this very cool photo. But the contrast was optimized to show the atmospheric haze, not the surface detail. Ultima Thule won't have any atmosphere, so I would think it would be optimized to show surface detail instead. And for Uwe ... I'm pretty sure starlight is all you have out there. But remember the sun is so far away it's not much bigger than a star anyway.
      $endgroup$
      – Fredrick Trafton
      Jan 31 at 17:25






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      The sun is much brighter than that, see this website that helps you experience how bright the daylight on Pluto is.
      $endgroup$
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      Jan 31 at 20:48




      $begingroup$
      The sun is much brighter than that, see this website that helps you experience how bright the daylight on Pluto is.
      $endgroup$
      – Hobbes
      Jan 31 at 20:48




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      @FredrickTrafton Sunlight at Pluto is much brighter than starlight there, about 100,000 times brighter
      $endgroup$
      – Uwe
      Jan 31 at 21:08




      $begingroup$
      @FredrickTrafton Sunlight at Pluto is much brighter than starlight there, about 100,000 times brighter
      $endgroup$
      – Uwe
      Jan 31 at 21:08




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      @Uwe: Maybe the designers should have equipped their camera with a really big flash? (You do realize I'm being sarcastic?)
      $endgroup$
      – jamesqf
      Feb 1 at 3:58




      $begingroup$
      @Uwe: Maybe the designers should have equipped their camera with a really big flash? (You do realize I'm being sarcastic?)
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      Hot off the press (or GIF-printer) from New Horizons’ Evocative Farewell Glance at Ultima Thule



      enter image description here




      Mission scientists created this "departure movie" from 14 different images taken by the New Horizons Long Range Reconnaissance Imager (LORRI) shortly after the spacecraft flew past the Kuiper Belt object nicknamed Ultima Thule (officially named 2014 MU69) on Jan. 1, 2019. The central frame of this sequence was taken on Jan. 1 at 05:42:42 UT (12:42 a.m. EST), when New Horizons was 5,494 miles (8,862 kilometers) beyond Ultima Thule, some 4.1 billion miles (6.6 billion kilometers) from Earth. The object’s illuminated crescent is blurred in the individual frames because a relatively long exposure time was used during this rapid scan to boost the camera’s signal level – but the science team combined and processed the images to remove the blurring and sharpen the thin crescent. This is the farthest movie of any object in our Solar System ever made by any spacecraft. The images reveal an outline of the “hidden” portion of the Ultima Thule that was not illuminated by the Sun as the spacecraft zipped by, but can be “traced out” because it blocked the view to background stars also in the image.



      Credits: NASA/Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory/Southwest Research Institute/National Optical Astronomy Observatory




      Also in YouTube:








      But...



      Don't Panic!



      According to the New Horizons Mission page February 8, 2019 New Horizons' Evocative Farewell Glance at Ultima Thule; Images Confirm the Kuiper Belt Object's Highly Unusual, Flatter Shape:




      These aren't the last Ultima Thule images New Horizons will send back to Earth



      – in fact, many more are to come -- but they are the final views New Horizons captured of the KBO (officially named 2014 MU69) as it raced away at over 31,000 miles per hour (50,000 kilometers per hour) on Jan. 1. The images were taken nearly 10 minutes after New Horizons crossed its closest approach point.



      "This really is an incredible image sequence, taken by a spacecraft exploring a small world four billion miles away from Earth," said mission Principal Investigator Alan Stern, of Southwest Research Institute. "Nothing quite like this has ever been captured in imagery."



      The newly released images also contain important scientific information about the shape of Ultima Thule, which is turning out to be one of the major discoveries from the flyby.



      The first close-up images of Ultima Thule – with its two distinct and, apparently, spherical segments – had observers calling it a "snowman." However, more analysis of approach images and these new departure images have changed that view, in part by revealing an outline of the portion of the KBO that was not illuminated by the Sun, but could be "traced out" as it blocked the view to background stars.



      Stringing 14 of these images into a short departure movie, New Horizons scientists can confirm that the two sections (or "lobes") of Ultima Thule are not spherical. The larger lobe, nicknamed "Ultima," more closely resembles a giant pancake and the smaller lobe, nicknamed "Thule," is shaped like a dented walnut.



      "We had an impression of Ultima Thule based on the limited number of images returned in the days around the flyby, but seeing more data has significantly changed our view," Stern said. "It would be closer to reality to say Ultima Thule's shape is flatter, like a pancake. But more importantly, the new images are creating scientific puzzles about how such an object could even be formed. We've never seen something like this orbiting the Sun."




      below: quick plot of data from Horizons, see this answer for details.



      enter image description here






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        Hot off the press (or GIF-printer) from New Horizons’ Evocative Farewell Glance at Ultima Thule



        enter image description here




        Mission scientists created this "departure movie" from 14 different images taken by the New Horizons Long Range Reconnaissance Imager (LORRI) shortly after the spacecraft flew past the Kuiper Belt object nicknamed Ultima Thule (officially named 2014 MU69) on Jan. 1, 2019. The central frame of this sequence was taken on Jan. 1 at 05:42:42 UT (12:42 a.m. EST), when New Horizons was 5,494 miles (8,862 kilometers) beyond Ultima Thule, some 4.1 billion miles (6.6 billion kilometers) from Earth. The object’s illuminated crescent is blurred in the individual frames because a relatively long exposure time was used during this rapid scan to boost the camera’s signal level – but the science team combined and processed the images to remove the blurring and sharpen the thin crescent. This is the farthest movie of any object in our Solar System ever made by any spacecraft. The images reveal an outline of the “hidden” portion of the Ultima Thule that was not illuminated by the Sun as the spacecraft zipped by, but can be “traced out” because it blocked the view to background stars also in the image.



        Credits: NASA/Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory/Southwest Research Institute/National Optical Astronomy Observatory




        Also in YouTube:








        But...



        Don't Panic!



        According to the New Horizons Mission page February 8, 2019 New Horizons' Evocative Farewell Glance at Ultima Thule; Images Confirm the Kuiper Belt Object's Highly Unusual, Flatter Shape:




        These aren't the last Ultima Thule images New Horizons will send back to Earth



        – in fact, many more are to come -- but they are the final views New Horizons captured of the KBO (officially named 2014 MU69) as it raced away at over 31,000 miles per hour (50,000 kilometers per hour) on Jan. 1. The images were taken nearly 10 minutes after New Horizons crossed its closest approach point.



        "This really is an incredible image sequence, taken by a spacecraft exploring a small world four billion miles away from Earth," said mission Principal Investigator Alan Stern, of Southwest Research Institute. "Nothing quite like this has ever been captured in imagery."



        The newly released images also contain important scientific information about the shape of Ultima Thule, which is turning out to be one of the major discoveries from the flyby.



        The first close-up images of Ultima Thule – with its two distinct and, apparently, spherical segments – had observers calling it a "snowman." However, more analysis of approach images and these new departure images have changed that view, in part by revealing an outline of the portion of the KBO that was not illuminated by the Sun, but could be "traced out" as it blocked the view to background stars.



        Stringing 14 of these images into a short departure movie, New Horizons scientists can confirm that the two sections (or "lobes") of Ultima Thule are not spherical. The larger lobe, nicknamed "Ultima," more closely resembles a giant pancake and the smaller lobe, nicknamed "Thule," is shaped like a dented walnut.



        "We had an impression of Ultima Thule based on the limited number of images returned in the days around the flyby, but seeing more data has significantly changed our view," Stern said. "It would be closer to reality to say Ultima Thule's shape is flatter, like a pancake. But more importantly, the new images are creating scientific puzzles about how such an object could even be formed. We've never seen something like this orbiting the Sun."




        below: quick plot of data from Horizons, see this answer for details.



        enter image description here






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          Yes!



          Hot off the press (or GIF-printer) from New Horizons’ Evocative Farewell Glance at Ultima Thule



          enter image description here




          Mission scientists created this "departure movie" from 14 different images taken by the New Horizons Long Range Reconnaissance Imager (LORRI) shortly after the spacecraft flew past the Kuiper Belt object nicknamed Ultima Thule (officially named 2014 MU69) on Jan. 1, 2019. The central frame of this sequence was taken on Jan. 1 at 05:42:42 UT (12:42 a.m. EST), when New Horizons was 5,494 miles (8,862 kilometers) beyond Ultima Thule, some 4.1 billion miles (6.6 billion kilometers) from Earth. The object’s illuminated crescent is blurred in the individual frames because a relatively long exposure time was used during this rapid scan to boost the camera’s signal level – but the science team combined and processed the images to remove the blurring and sharpen the thin crescent. This is the farthest movie of any object in our Solar System ever made by any spacecraft. The images reveal an outline of the “hidden” portion of the Ultima Thule that was not illuminated by the Sun as the spacecraft zipped by, but can be “traced out” because it blocked the view to background stars also in the image.



          Credits: NASA/Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory/Southwest Research Institute/National Optical Astronomy Observatory




          Also in YouTube:








          But...



          Don't Panic!



          According to the New Horizons Mission page February 8, 2019 New Horizons' Evocative Farewell Glance at Ultima Thule; Images Confirm the Kuiper Belt Object's Highly Unusual, Flatter Shape:




          These aren't the last Ultima Thule images New Horizons will send back to Earth



          – in fact, many more are to come -- but they are the final views New Horizons captured of the KBO (officially named 2014 MU69) as it raced away at over 31,000 miles per hour (50,000 kilometers per hour) on Jan. 1. The images were taken nearly 10 minutes after New Horizons crossed its closest approach point.



          "This really is an incredible image sequence, taken by a spacecraft exploring a small world four billion miles away from Earth," said mission Principal Investigator Alan Stern, of Southwest Research Institute. "Nothing quite like this has ever been captured in imagery."



          The newly released images also contain important scientific information about the shape of Ultima Thule, which is turning out to be one of the major discoveries from the flyby.



          The first close-up images of Ultima Thule – with its two distinct and, apparently, spherical segments – had observers calling it a "snowman." However, more analysis of approach images and these new departure images have changed that view, in part by revealing an outline of the portion of the KBO that was not illuminated by the Sun, but could be "traced out" as it blocked the view to background stars.



          Stringing 14 of these images into a short departure movie, New Horizons scientists can confirm that the two sections (or "lobes") of Ultima Thule are not spherical. The larger lobe, nicknamed "Ultima," more closely resembles a giant pancake and the smaller lobe, nicknamed "Thule," is shaped like a dented walnut.



          "We had an impression of Ultima Thule based on the limited number of images returned in the days around the flyby, but seeing more data has significantly changed our view," Stern said. "It would be closer to reality to say Ultima Thule's shape is flatter, like a pancake. But more importantly, the new images are creating scientific puzzles about how such an object could even be formed. We've never seen something like this orbiting the Sun."




          below: quick plot of data from Horizons, see this answer for details.



          enter image description here






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$



          Yes!



          Hot off the press (or GIF-printer) from New Horizons’ Evocative Farewell Glance at Ultima Thule



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          Mission scientists created this "departure movie" from 14 different images taken by the New Horizons Long Range Reconnaissance Imager (LORRI) shortly after the spacecraft flew past the Kuiper Belt object nicknamed Ultima Thule (officially named 2014 MU69) on Jan. 1, 2019. The central frame of this sequence was taken on Jan. 1 at 05:42:42 UT (12:42 a.m. EST), when New Horizons was 5,494 miles (8,862 kilometers) beyond Ultima Thule, some 4.1 billion miles (6.6 billion kilometers) from Earth. The object’s illuminated crescent is blurred in the individual frames because a relatively long exposure time was used during this rapid scan to boost the camera’s signal level – but the science team combined and processed the images to remove the blurring and sharpen the thin crescent. This is the farthest movie of any object in our Solar System ever made by any spacecraft. The images reveal an outline of the “hidden” portion of the Ultima Thule that was not illuminated by the Sun as the spacecraft zipped by, but can be “traced out” because it blocked the view to background stars also in the image.



          Credits: NASA/Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory/Southwest Research Institute/National Optical Astronomy Observatory




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          But...



          Don't Panic!



          According to the New Horizons Mission page February 8, 2019 New Horizons' Evocative Farewell Glance at Ultima Thule; Images Confirm the Kuiper Belt Object's Highly Unusual, Flatter Shape:




          These aren't the last Ultima Thule images New Horizons will send back to Earth



          – in fact, many more are to come -- but they are the final views New Horizons captured of the KBO (officially named 2014 MU69) as it raced away at over 31,000 miles per hour (50,000 kilometers per hour) on Jan. 1. The images were taken nearly 10 minutes after New Horizons crossed its closest approach point.



          "This really is an incredible image sequence, taken by a spacecraft exploring a small world four billion miles away from Earth," said mission Principal Investigator Alan Stern, of Southwest Research Institute. "Nothing quite like this has ever been captured in imagery."



          The newly released images also contain important scientific information about the shape of Ultima Thule, which is turning out to be one of the major discoveries from the flyby.



          The first close-up images of Ultima Thule – with its two distinct and, apparently, spherical segments – had observers calling it a "snowman." However, more analysis of approach images and these new departure images have changed that view, in part by revealing an outline of the portion of the KBO that was not illuminated by the Sun, but could be "traced out" as it blocked the view to background stars.



          Stringing 14 of these images into a short departure movie, New Horizons scientists can confirm that the two sections (or "lobes") of Ultima Thule are not spherical. The larger lobe, nicknamed "Ultima," more closely resembles a giant pancake and the smaller lobe, nicknamed "Thule," is shaped like a dented walnut.



          "We had an impression of Ultima Thule based on the limited number of images returned in the days around the flyby, but seeing more data has significantly changed our view," Stern said. "It would be closer to reality to say Ultima Thule's shape is flatter, like a pancake. But more importantly, the new images are creating scientific puzzles about how such an object could even be formed. We've never seen something like this orbiting the Sun."




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              Upon further reflection (haha) I think a photo from the other side by starlight, while possible, probably won't reveal craters in detail very well. For the same reason the middle of the new hi-resolution photo shows detail only near the top, not in the middle of Ultima (I think that's the nickname for the larger half). It's all about contrast ... on the "back" side, it will be equally illuminated from all sides by stars all around. Sol isn't very big/bright out there, but it IS bigger/brighter than any other stars, so it forms shadows when you increase the contrast enough. I'm thinking that may not happen on the other side because it's being illuminated evenly by stars all around. You would only see changes in coloration due to geological differences, not height.






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                starlight (barring our own star) is next to nothing within the scope of what is needed to expose an image on even the best ccd sensors (which collect more light typically than cmos)
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                And even if you managed a long enough exposure (many hours), all detail would be lost to the motion blur of the 36,000 mph camera.
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              Upon further reflection (haha) I think a photo from the other side by starlight, while possible, probably won't reveal craters in detail very well. For the same reason the middle of the new hi-resolution photo shows detail only near the top, not in the middle of Ultima (I think that's the nickname for the larger half). It's all about contrast ... on the "back" side, it will be equally illuminated from all sides by stars all around. Sol isn't very big/bright out there, but it IS bigger/brighter than any other stars, so it forms shadows when you increase the contrast enough. I'm thinking that may not happen on the other side because it's being illuminated evenly by stars all around. You would only see changes in coloration due to geological differences, not height.






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                $begingroup$
                starlight (barring our own star) is next to nothing within the scope of what is needed to expose an image on even the best ccd sensors (which collect more light typically than cmos)
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                – Aaron
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                And even if you managed a long enough exposure (many hours), all detail would be lost to the motion blur of the 36,000 mph camera.
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                – Camille Goudeseune
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              Upon further reflection (haha) I think a photo from the other side by starlight, while possible, probably won't reveal craters in detail very well. For the same reason the middle of the new hi-resolution photo shows detail only near the top, not in the middle of Ultima (I think that's the nickname for the larger half). It's all about contrast ... on the "back" side, it will be equally illuminated from all sides by stars all around. Sol isn't very big/bright out there, but it IS bigger/brighter than any other stars, so it forms shadows when you increase the contrast enough. I'm thinking that may not happen on the other side because it's being illuminated evenly by stars all around. You would only see changes in coloration due to geological differences, not height.






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              Upon further reflection (haha) I think a photo from the other side by starlight, while possible, probably won't reveal craters in detail very well. For the same reason the middle of the new hi-resolution photo shows detail only near the top, not in the middle of Ultima (I think that's the nickname for the larger half). It's all about contrast ... on the "back" side, it will be equally illuminated from all sides by stars all around. Sol isn't very big/bright out there, but it IS bigger/brighter than any other stars, so it forms shadows when you increase the contrast enough. I'm thinking that may not happen on the other side because it's being illuminated evenly by stars all around. You would only see changes in coloration due to geological differences, not height.







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                $begingroup$
                starlight (barring our own star) is next to nothing within the scope of what is needed to expose an image on even the best ccd sensors (which collect more light typically than cmos)
                $endgroup$
                – Aaron
                Jan 31 at 22:21






              • 1




                $begingroup$
                And even if you managed a long enough exposure (many hours), all detail would be lost to the motion blur of the 36,000 mph camera.
                $endgroup$
                – Camille Goudeseune
                Feb 1 at 19:53














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                $begingroup$
                starlight (barring our own star) is next to nothing within the scope of what is needed to expose an image on even the best ccd sensors (which collect more light typically than cmos)
                $endgroup$
                – Aaron
                Jan 31 at 22:21






              • 1




                $begingroup$
                And even if you managed a long enough exposure (many hours), all detail would be lost to the motion blur of the 36,000 mph camera.
                $endgroup$
                – Camille Goudeseune
                Feb 1 at 19:53








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              $begingroup$
              starlight (barring our own star) is next to nothing within the scope of what is needed to expose an image on even the best ccd sensors (which collect more light typically than cmos)
              $endgroup$
              – Aaron
              Jan 31 at 22:21




              $begingroup$
              starlight (barring our own star) is next to nothing within the scope of what is needed to expose an image on even the best ccd sensors (which collect more light typically than cmos)
              $endgroup$
              – Aaron
              Jan 31 at 22:21




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              $begingroup$
              And even if you managed a long enough exposure (many hours), all detail would be lost to the motion blur of the 36,000 mph camera.
              $endgroup$
              – Camille Goudeseune
              Feb 1 at 19:53




              $begingroup$
              And even if you managed a long enough exposure (many hours), all detail would be lost to the motion blur of the 36,000 mph camera.
              $endgroup$
              – Camille Goudeseune
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              Is there enough light for a night side photo of Ultima Thule?



              There is only starlight illuminating the night side, I use the intensity of sunlight (about 100,000 Lux) and starlight (about 0.001 Lux) on the surface of Earth to calculate the ratio there, sunlight is about 100 million times brighter than starlight at 1 AU distance to the Sun.



              The mean distance of Ultima Thule to the Sun is about 44 AU, so the sunlight intensity there is 1/2000 of that at Earth. See the Inverse-square law of Wikipedia.



              The intensity of starlight at Ultima Thule is the same as at Earth. The distance to the closest stars is huge when compared to 44 AU.



              Therefore the ratio between sunlight to starlight at Ultima Thule is about 100 million divided by 2000 that is 50,000 to 1.



              If the exposure time for a good photo of the day side of Ultima Thule is 0.01 seconds, a night side photo would take about 500 seconds or 8 minutes, much too long for a fast spaceprobe like New Horizons.






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                Is there enough light for a night side photo of Ultima Thule?



                There is only starlight illuminating the night side, I use the intensity of sunlight (about 100,000 Lux) and starlight (about 0.001 Lux) on the surface of Earth to calculate the ratio there, sunlight is about 100 million times brighter than starlight at 1 AU distance to the Sun.



                The mean distance of Ultima Thule to the Sun is about 44 AU, so the sunlight intensity there is 1/2000 of that at Earth. See the Inverse-square law of Wikipedia.



                The intensity of starlight at Ultima Thule is the same as at Earth. The distance to the closest stars is huge when compared to 44 AU.



                Therefore the ratio between sunlight to starlight at Ultima Thule is about 100 million divided by 2000 that is 50,000 to 1.



                If the exposure time for a good photo of the day side of Ultima Thule is 0.01 seconds, a night side photo would take about 500 seconds or 8 minutes, much too long for a fast spaceprobe like New Horizons.






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                  Is there enough light for a night side photo of Ultima Thule?



                  There is only starlight illuminating the night side, I use the intensity of sunlight (about 100,000 Lux) and starlight (about 0.001 Lux) on the surface of Earth to calculate the ratio there, sunlight is about 100 million times brighter than starlight at 1 AU distance to the Sun.



                  The mean distance of Ultima Thule to the Sun is about 44 AU, so the sunlight intensity there is 1/2000 of that at Earth. See the Inverse-square law of Wikipedia.



                  The intensity of starlight at Ultima Thule is the same as at Earth. The distance to the closest stars is huge when compared to 44 AU.



                  Therefore the ratio between sunlight to starlight at Ultima Thule is about 100 million divided by 2000 that is 50,000 to 1.



                  If the exposure time for a good photo of the day side of Ultima Thule is 0.01 seconds, a night side photo would take about 500 seconds or 8 minutes, much too long for a fast spaceprobe like New Horizons.






                  share|improve this answer









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                  Is there enough light for a night side photo of Ultima Thule?



                  There is only starlight illuminating the night side, I use the intensity of sunlight (about 100,000 Lux) and starlight (about 0.001 Lux) on the surface of Earth to calculate the ratio there, sunlight is about 100 million times brighter than starlight at 1 AU distance to the Sun.



                  The mean distance of Ultima Thule to the Sun is about 44 AU, so the sunlight intensity there is 1/2000 of that at Earth. See the Inverse-square law of Wikipedia.



                  The intensity of starlight at Ultima Thule is the same as at Earth. The distance to the closest stars is huge when compared to 44 AU.



                  Therefore the ratio between sunlight to starlight at Ultima Thule is about 100 million divided by 2000 that is 50,000 to 1.



                  If the exposure time for a good photo of the day side of Ultima Thule is 0.01 seconds, a night side photo would take about 500 seconds or 8 minutes, much too long for a fast spaceprobe like New Horizons.







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