Find the integral $int _{1}^{e} (x ln x)^2 dx$.
Find : $$int _{1}^{e} (x ln x)^2 ;dx.$$
My answer:
I have tried integration by parts with $u = x^2$ and $dv = (ln x)^2$ but I end up having the same integration another time!
I reversed the role of $u$ & $v$, but it also did not work?
Do you have any suggestions ?
calculus integration analysis
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Find : $$int _{1}^{e} (x ln x)^2 ;dx.$$
My answer:
I have tried integration by parts with $u = x^2$ and $dv = (ln x)^2$ but I end up having the same integration another time!
I reversed the role of $u$ & $v$, but it also did not work?
Do you have any suggestions ?
calculus integration analysis
add a comment |
Find : $$int _{1}^{e} (x ln x)^2 ;dx.$$
My answer:
I have tried integration by parts with $u = x^2$ and $dv = (ln x)^2$ but I end up having the same integration another time!
I reversed the role of $u$ & $v$, but it also did not work?
Do you have any suggestions ?
calculus integration analysis
Find : $$int _{1}^{e} (x ln x)^2 ;dx.$$
My answer:
I have tried integration by parts with $u = x^2$ and $dv = (ln x)^2$ but I end up having the same integration another time!
I reversed the role of $u$ & $v$, but it also did not work?
Do you have any suggestions ?
calculus integration analysis
calculus integration analysis
edited Nov 27 at 10:14
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Hint:
Let $ln x=yimplies x=e^y,dx=e^y dy$
$$int_1^e(xln x)^2=int_0^1e^{3y}y^2 dy$$
Now $dfrac{d(e^{my}y^n)}{dy}=me^{my}y^n+e^{my}ny^{n-1}$
If $displaystyle I(n)=int e^{my}y^n dy,$
$$mI(n)+nI(n-1)=e^{my}y^n+K$$
Here $m=3,n=2$
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Hint: make thus substitution $y =ln, x$ and then integrate by parts.
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begin{align}
int_{1}^{expo{}}x^{nu},dd x & =
left.{x^{nu +1} over nu + 1},rightvert_{ 1}^{ expo{}} =
{expo{nu +1} - 1 over nu + 1}
\[5mm] &
textsf{Derive twice respect of} nu:
\
int_{1}^{expo{}}x^{nu}ln^{2}pars{x},dd x & =
totald[2]{}{nu}pars{expo{nu +1} - 1 over nu + 1} =
{pars{nu^{2} + 1}expo{nu + 1} - 2 over pars{nu +1}^{3}}
\[5mm] &
textsf{Evaluate the limit} nu to 2:
\
int_{1}^{expo{}}bracks{xlnpars{x}}^{2},dd x & =
bbx{5expo{3} - 2 over 27} approx 3.6455
end{align}
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Let $u=(ln x)^2$ and $dv=x^2 ,dx$. Then $du=2(ln x)frac{1}{x} , dx$ and $v=frac{x^3}{3}$. So
$$I=int_1^e(x ln x)^2 , dx=(ln x)^2 frac{x^3}{3}Big|_{1}^{e}-frac{2}{3}int_1^e x^2 ln x , dx.$$
Now we will solve the integral on the right side. Call the integral as $J$. For this $u=ln x$ and $dv=x^2 , dx$. So $du= frac{1}{x},dx$ and $v=frac{x^3}{3}$.Then
$$J=(ln x) frac{x^3}{3}Big|_{1}^{e}-frac{1}{3}int_1^e x^ 2, dx=(ln x) frac{x^3}{3}Big|_{1}^{e}-frac{x^3}{9}Big|_{1}^{e}=frac{e^3}{3}-left(frac{e^3-1}{9}right)=frac{2e^3+1}{9}.$$
So
$$I=frac{e^3}{3}-frac{2}{3}left(frac{2e^3+1}{9}right)=frac{5e^3-2}{27}$$
My final answer is different from you ..... are you sure that yours is correct ?
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:10
Mine is $frac {6 e^3 + 3}{27}$
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:11
@hopefully I am quite sure my answer is correct.
– Anurag A
Nov 27 at 10:13
the problem with me is your last line ..... all the previous is okay for me
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:18
1
@hopefully you are mistaken $J$ has only $x^2 ln x$ (the log term is NOT squared) whereas your actual integral (which I am referring to as $I$) has $(x ln x)^2=x^2 (ln x)^2$.
– Anurag A
Nov 27 at 10:22
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Hint:
Let $ln x=yimplies x=e^y,dx=e^y dy$
$$int_1^e(xln x)^2=int_0^1e^{3y}y^2 dy$$
Now $dfrac{d(e^{my}y^n)}{dy}=me^{my}y^n+e^{my}ny^{n-1}$
If $displaystyle I(n)=int e^{my}y^n dy,$
$$mI(n)+nI(n-1)=e^{my}y^n+K$$
Here $m=3,n=2$
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Hint:
Let $ln x=yimplies x=e^y,dx=e^y dy$
$$int_1^e(xln x)^2=int_0^1e^{3y}y^2 dy$$
Now $dfrac{d(e^{my}y^n)}{dy}=me^{my}y^n+e^{my}ny^{n-1}$
If $displaystyle I(n)=int e^{my}y^n dy,$
$$mI(n)+nI(n-1)=e^{my}y^n+K$$
Here $m=3,n=2$
add a comment |
Hint:
Let $ln x=yimplies x=e^y,dx=e^y dy$
$$int_1^e(xln x)^2=int_0^1e^{3y}y^2 dy$$
Now $dfrac{d(e^{my}y^n)}{dy}=me^{my}y^n+e^{my}ny^{n-1}$
If $displaystyle I(n)=int e^{my}y^n dy,$
$$mI(n)+nI(n-1)=e^{my}y^n+K$$
Here $m=3,n=2$
Hint:
Let $ln x=yimplies x=e^y,dx=e^y dy$
$$int_1^e(xln x)^2=int_0^1e^{3y}y^2 dy$$
Now $dfrac{d(e^{my}y^n)}{dy}=me^{my}y^n+e^{my}ny^{n-1}$
If $displaystyle I(n)=int e^{my}y^n dy,$
$$mI(n)+nI(n-1)=e^{my}y^n+K$$
Here $m=3,n=2$
answered Nov 27 at 9:49
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Hint: make thus substitution $y =ln, x$ and then integrate by parts.
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Hint: make thus substitution $y =ln, x$ and then integrate by parts.
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Hint: make thus substitution $y =ln, x$ and then integrate by parts.
Hint: make thus substitution $y =ln, x$ and then integrate by parts.
answered Nov 27 at 9:48
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begin{align}
int_{1}^{expo{}}x^{nu},dd x & =
left.{x^{nu +1} over nu + 1},rightvert_{ 1}^{ expo{}} =
{expo{nu +1} - 1 over nu + 1}
\[5mm] &
textsf{Derive twice respect of} nu:
\
int_{1}^{expo{}}x^{nu}ln^{2}pars{x},dd x & =
totald[2]{}{nu}pars{expo{nu +1} - 1 over nu + 1} =
{pars{nu^{2} + 1}expo{nu + 1} - 2 over pars{nu +1}^{3}}
\[5mm] &
textsf{Evaluate the limit} nu to 2:
\
int_{1}^{expo{}}bracks{xlnpars{x}}^{2},dd x & =
bbx{5expo{3} - 2 over 27} approx 3.6455
end{align}
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begin{align}
int_{1}^{expo{}}x^{nu},dd x & =
left.{x^{nu +1} over nu + 1},rightvert_{ 1}^{ expo{}} =
{expo{nu +1} - 1 over nu + 1}
\[5mm] &
textsf{Derive twice respect of} nu:
\
int_{1}^{expo{}}x^{nu}ln^{2}pars{x},dd x & =
totald[2]{}{nu}pars{expo{nu +1} - 1 over nu + 1} =
{pars{nu^{2} + 1}expo{nu + 1} - 2 over pars{nu +1}^{3}}
\[5mm] &
textsf{Evaluate the limit} nu to 2:
\
int_{1}^{expo{}}bracks{xlnpars{x}}^{2},dd x & =
bbx{5expo{3} - 2 over 27} approx 3.6455
end{align}
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begin{align}
int_{1}^{expo{}}x^{nu},dd x & =
left.{x^{nu +1} over nu + 1},rightvert_{ 1}^{ expo{}} =
{expo{nu +1} - 1 over nu + 1}
\[5mm] &
textsf{Derive twice respect of} nu:
\
int_{1}^{expo{}}x^{nu}ln^{2}pars{x},dd x & =
totald[2]{}{nu}pars{expo{nu +1} - 1 over nu + 1} =
{pars{nu^{2} + 1}expo{nu + 1} - 2 over pars{nu +1}^{3}}
\[5mm] &
textsf{Evaluate the limit} nu to 2:
\
int_{1}^{expo{}}bracks{xlnpars{x}}^{2},dd x & =
bbx{5expo{3} - 2 over 27} approx 3.6455
end{align}
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begin{align}
int_{1}^{expo{}}x^{nu},dd x & =
left.{x^{nu +1} over nu + 1},rightvert_{ 1}^{ expo{}} =
{expo{nu +1} - 1 over nu + 1}
\[5mm] &
textsf{Derive twice respect of} nu:
\
int_{1}^{expo{}}x^{nu}ln^{2}pars{x},dd x & =
totald[2]{}{nu}pars{expo{nu +1} - 1 over nu + 1} =
{pars{nu^{2} + 1}expo{nu + 1} - 2 over pars{nu +1}^{3}}
\[5mm] &
textsf{Evaluate the limit} nu to 2:
\
int_{1}^{expo{}}bracks{xlnpars{x}}^{2},dd x & =
bbx{5expo{3} - 2 over 27} approx 3.6455
end{align}
answered Nov 27 at 17:11
Felix Marin
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Let $u=(ln x)^2$ and $dv=x^2 ,dx$. Then $du=2(ln x)frac{1}{x} , dx$ and $v=frac{x^3}{3}$. So
$$I=int_1^e(x ln x)^2 , dx=(ln x)^2 frac{x^3}{3}Big|_{1}^{e}-frac{2}{3}int_1^e x^2 ln x , dx.$$
Now we will solve the integral on the right side. Call the integral as $J$. For this $u=ln x$ and $dv=x^2 , dx$. So $du= frac{1}{x},dx$ and $v=frac{x^3}{3}$.Then
$$J=(ln x) frac{x^3}{3}Big|_{1}^{e}-frac{1}{3}int_1^e x^ 2, dx=(ln x) frac{x^3}{3}Big|_{1}^{e}-frac{x^3}{9}Big|_{1}^{e}=frac{e^3}{3}-left(frac{e^3-1}{9}right)=frac{2e^3+1}{9}.$$
So
$$I=frac{e^3}{3}-frac{2}{3}left(frac{2e^3+1}{9}right)=frac{5e^3-2}{27}$$
My final answer is different from you ..... are you sure that yours is correct ?
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:10
Mine is $frac {6 e^3 + 3}{27}$
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:11
@hopefully I am quite sure my answer is correct.
– Anurag A
Nov 27 at 10:13
the problem with me is your last line ..... all the previous is okay for me
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:18
1
@hopefully you are mistaken $J$ has only $x^2 ln x$ (the log term is NOT squared) whereas your actual integral (which I am referring to as $I$) has $(x ln x)^2=x^2 (ln x)^2$.
– Anurag A
Nov 27 at 10:22
|
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Let $u=(ln x)^2$ and $dv=x^2 ,dx$. Then $du=2(ln x)frac{1}{x} , dx$ and $v=frac{x^3}{3}$. So
$$I=int_1^e(x ln x)^2 , dx=(ln x)^2 frac{x^3}{3}Big|_{1}^{e}-frac{2}{3}int_1^e x^2 ln x , dx.$$
Now we will solve the integral on the right side. Call the integral as $J$. For this $u=ln x$ and $dv=x^2 , dx$. So $du= frac{1}{x},dx$ and $v=frac{x^3}{3}$.Then
$$J=(ln x) frac{x^3}{3}Big|_{1}^{e}-frac{1}{3}int_1^e x^ 2, dx=(ln x) frac{x^3}{3}Big|_{1}^{e}-frac{x^3}{9}Big|_{1}^{e}=frac{e^3}{3}-left(frac{e^3-1}{9}right)=frac{2e^3+1}{9}.$$
So
$$I=frac{e^3}{3}-frac{2}{3}left(frac{2e^3+1}{9}right)=frac{5e^3-2}{27}$$
My final answer is different from you ..... are you sure that yours is correct ?
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:10
Mine is $frac {6 e^3 + 3}{27}$
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:11
@hopefully I am quite sure my answer is correct.
– Anurag A
Nov 27 at 10:13
the problem with me is your last line ..... all the previous is okay for me
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:18
1
@hopefully you are mistaken $J$ has only $x^2 ln x$ (the log term is NOT squared) whereas your actual integral (which I am referring to as $I$) has $(x ln x)^2=x^2 (ln x)^2$.
– Anurag A
Nov 27 at 10:22
|
show 3 more comments
Let $u=(ln x)^2$ and $dv=x^2 ,dx$. Then $du=2(ln x)frac{1}{x} , dx$ and $v=frac{x^3}{3}$. So
$$I=int_1^e(x ln x)^2 , dx=(ln x)^2 frac{x^3}{3}Big|_{1}^{e}-frac{2}{3}int_1^e x^2 ln x , dx.$$
Now we will solve the integral on the right side. Call the integral as $J$. For this $u=ln x$ and $dv=x^2 , dx$. So $du= frac{1}{x},dx$ and $v=frac{x^3}{3}$.Then
$$J=(ln x) frac{x^3}{3}Big|_{1}^{e}-frac{1}{3}int_1^e x^ 2, dx=(ln x) frac{x^3}{3}Big|_{1}^{e}-frac{x^3}{9}Big|_{1}^{e}=frac{e^3}{3}-left(frac{e^3-1}{9}right)=frac{2e^3+1}{9}.$$
So
$$I=frac{e^3}{3}-frac{2}{3}left(frac{2e^3+1}{9}right)=frac{5e^3-2}{27}$$
Let $u=(ln x)^2$ and $dv=x^2 ,dx$. Then $du=2(ln x)frac{1}{x} , dx$ and $v=frac{x^3}{3}$. So
$$I=int_1^e(x ln x)^2 , dx=(ln x)^2 frac{x^3}{3}Big|_{1}^{e}-frac{2}{3}int_1^e x^2 ln x , dx.$$
Now we will solve the integral on the right side. Call the integral as $J$. For this $u=ln x$ and $dv=x^2 , dx$. So $du= frac{1}{x},dx$ and $v=frac{x^3}{3}$.Then
$$J=(ln x) frac{x^3}{3}Big|_{1}^{e}-frac{1}{3}int_1^e x^ 2, dx=(ln x) frac{x^3}{3}Big|_{1}^{e}-frac{x^3}{9}Big|_{1}^{e}=frac{e^3}{3}-left(frac{e^3-1}{9}right)=frac{2e^3+1}{9}.$$
So
$$I=frac{e^3}{3}-frac{2}{3}left(frac{2e^3+1}{9}right)=frac{5e^3-2}{27}$$
edited Nov 27 at 10:00
answered Nov 27 at 9:54
Anurag A
25.6k12249
25.6k12249
My final answer is different from you ..... are you sure that yours is correct ?
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:10
Mine is $frac {6 e^3 + 3}{27}$
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:11
@hopefully I am quite sure my answer is correct.
– Anurag A
Nov 27 at 10:13
the problem with me is your last line ..... all the previous is okay for me
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:18
1
@hopefully you are mistaken $J$ has only $x^2 ln x$ (the log term is NOT squared) whereas your actual integral (which I am referring to as $I$) has $(x ln x)^2=x^2 (ln x)^2$.
– Anurag A
Nov 27 at 10:22
|
show 3 more comments
My final answer is different from you ..... are you sure that yours is correct ?
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:10
Mine is $frac {6 e^3 + 3}{27}$
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:11
@hopefully I am quite sure my answer is correct.
– Anurag A
Nov 27 at 10:13
the problem with me is your last line ..... all the previous is okay for me
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:18
1
@hopefully you are mistaken $J$ has only $x^2 ln x$ (the log term is NOT squared) whereas your actual integral (which I am referring to as $I$) has $(x ln x)^2=x^2 (ln x)^2$.
– Anurag A
Nov 27 at 10:22
My final answer is different from you ..... are you sure that yours is correct ?
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:10
My final answer is different from you ..... are you sure that yours is correct ?
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:10
Mine is $frac {6 e^3 + 3}{27}$
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:11
Mine is $frac {6 e^3 + 3}{27}$
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:11
@hopefully I am quite sure my answer is correct.
– Anurag A
Nov 27 at 10:13
@hopefully I am quite sure my answer is correct.
– Anurag A
Nov 27 at 10:13
the problem with me is your last line ..... all the previous is okay for me
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:18
the problem with me is your last line ..... all the previous is okay for me
– hopefully
Nov 27 at 10:18
1
1
@hopefully you are mistaken $J$ has only $x^2 ln x$ (the log term is NOT squared) whereas your actual integral (which I am referring to as $I$) has $(x ln x)^2=x^2 (ln x)^2$.
– Anurag A
Nov 27 at 10:22
@hopefully you are mistaken $J$ has only $x^2 ln x$ (the log term is NOT squared) whereas your actual integral (which I am referring to as $I$) has $(x ln x)^2=x^2 (ln x)^2$.
– Anurag A
Nov 27 at 10:22
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