Series expansion upto linear order
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I want to do a series expansion of the function given below around $a=0$ and keep the terms only upto $O(a)$. The function is
$$
f(a)=frac{a pi^2sin^2theta}{a^2-pi^2cos^2theta}
$$
Using $f(0)+f'(0)a$, I would get the expansion as $f(a)=-tan^2theta ~a$. I suspect whether this expansion would be correct near $theta$ equal to $pi/2$. Any help, how should I proceed in that case. Should I take $lim~thetarightarrow pi/2$ first and then do the expansion or should I do something else?
calculus mathematical-physics
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I want to do a series expansion of the function given below around $a=0$ and keep the terms only upto $O(a)$. The function is
$$
f(a)=frac{a pi^2sin^2theta}{a^2-pi^2cos^2theta}
$$
Using $f(0)+f'(0)a$, I would get the expansion as $f(a)=-tan^2theta ~a$. I suspect whether this expansion would be correct near $theta$ equal to $pi/2$. Any help, how should I proceed in that case. Should I take $lim~thetarightarrow pi/2$ first and then do the expansion or should I do something else?
calculus mathematical-physics
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I want to do a series expansion of the function given below around $a=0$ and keep the terms only upto $O(a)$. The function is
$$
f(a)=frac{a pi^2sin^2theta}{a^2-pi^2cos^2theta}
$$
Using $f(0)+f'(0)a$, I would get the expansion as $f(a)=-tan^2theta ~a$. I suspect whether this expansion would be correct near $theta$ equal to $pi/2$. Any help, how should I proceed in that case. Should I take $lim~thetarightarrow pi/2$ first and then do the expansion or should I do something else?
calculus mathematical-physics
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I want to do a series expansion of the function given below around $a=0$ and keep the terms only upto $O(a)$. The function is
$$
f(a)=frac{a pi^2sin^2theta}{a^2-pi^2cos^2theta}
$$
Using $f(0)+f'(0)a$, I would get the expansion as $f(a)=-tan^2theta ~a$. I suspect whether this expansion would be correct near $theta$ equal to $pi/2$. Any help, how should I proceed in that case. Should I take $lim~thetarightarrow pi/2$ first and then do the expansion or should I do something else?
calculus mathematical-physics
calculus mathematical-physics
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There being two variables $a$ and $theta$, you have to be careful with what $O(a)$ means, and you should probably write $f(a,theta)$ rather than just $f(a)$. It is true that $f(a,theta) sim -frac{a}{pi} tan^2(theta)$ if $theta$ is fixed and $cos(theta) ne 0$. But if $cos(theta) = 0$, $f(a,theta) = pi/a$. Various
other possibilities exist if $cos(theta) to 0$ as $a to 0$. For example, if $theta = pi/2 + c a$ for constant $c ne 1/pi$,
$$ f(a,pi/2 + c a) sim frac{pi}{1 - pi^2 c^2} a^{-1}$$
while if $theta = pi/2 + a/pi$
$$ f(a, pi/2 + a/pi) sim frac{3 pi^3}{a^3} $$
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If I say that $theta=frac{pi}{2}pm epsilon$ where $epsilon$ is a very small number so $costheta$ is a small number but not exactly zero, then would $f(a)=-a~tan^2theta$ be true or not?
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– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:35
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If $epsilon$ is a nonzero constant, then indeed $f(a) = -frac{a}{pi} tan^2(theta) + O(a^3)$.
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– Robert Israel
Dec 17 '18 at 20:51
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We know that near $X=0$,
$$frac{1}{1-X}=1+X+X^2+...$$
$$=1+O(X)$$
thus
$$f(a)=-frac{api^2sin^2(theta)}{pi^2cos^2(theta)}frac{1}{1-frac{a^2}{pi^2cos^2(theta)}}$$
$$=-atan^2(theta)Bigl(1+O(a^2)Bigr)$$
$$=-atan^2(theta)+O(a)$$
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How are treating the denominator in $1-X$ form in this case?
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– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:12
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@Parveen Please look again.
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– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 17 '18 at 20:16
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This doesnt address the case $cos(theta) to 0$.
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– Robert Israel
Dec 17 '18 at 20:17
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You got the same answer as I mentioned in my post. As $tan^2theta$ diverges as $theta$ goes to $pi/2$, I doubt whether this is correct thing to do!
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– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:20
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If $thetato pi/2$ then $f(a)=frac{pi^2}{a}$ goes to infty when $ato 0$.
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– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 17 '18 at 20:23
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There being two variables $a$ and $theta$, you have to be careful with what $O(a)$ means, and you should probably write $f(a,theta)$ rather than just $f(a)$. It is true that $f(a,theta) sim -frac{a}{pi} tan^2(theta)$ if $theta$ is fixed and $cos(theta) ne 0$. But if $cos(theta) = 0$, $f(a,theta) = pi/a$. Various
other possibilities exist if $cos(theta) to 0$ as $a to 0$. For example, if $theta = pi/2 + c a$ for constant $c ne 1/pi$,
$$ f(a,pi/2 + c a) sim frac{pi}{1 - pi^2 c^2} a^{-1}$$
while if $theta = pi/2 + a/pi$
$$ f(a, pi/2 + a/pi) sim frac{3 pi^3}{a^3} $$
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If I say that $theta=frac{pi}{2}pm epsilon$ where $epsilon$ is a very small number so $costheta$ is a small number but not exactly zero, then would $f(a)=-a~tan^2theta$ be true or not?
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– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:35
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If $epsilon$ is a nonzero constant, then indeed $f(a) = -frac{a}{pi} tan^2(theta) + O(a^3)$.
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– Robert Israel
Dec 17 '18 at 20:51
add a comment |
$begingroup$
There being two variables $a$ and $theta$, you have to be careful with what $O(a)$ means, and you should probably write $f(a,theta)$ rather than just $f(a)$. It is true that $f(a,theta) sim -frac{a}{pi} tan^2(theta)$ if $theta$ is fixed and $cos(theta) ne 0$. But if $cos(theta) = 0$, $f(a,theta) = pi/a$. Various
other possibilities exist if $cos(theta) to 0$ as $a to 0$. For example, if $theta = pi/2 + c a$ for constant $c ne 1/pi$,
$$ f(a,pi/2 + c a) sim frac{pi}{1 - pi^2 c^2} a^{-1}$$
while if $theta = pi/2 + a/pi$
$$ f(a, pi/2 + a/pi) sim frac{3 pi^3}{a^3} $$
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If I say that $theta=frac{pi}{2}pm epsilon$ where $epsilon$ is a very small number so $costheta$ is a small number but not exactly zero, then would $f(a)=-a~tan^2theta$ be true or not?
$endgroup$
– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:35
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If $epsilon$ is a nonzero constant, then indeed $f(a) = -frac{a}{pi} tan^2(theta) + O(a^3)$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 17 '18 at 20:51
add a comment |
$begingroup$
There being two variables $a$ and $theta$, you have to be careful with what $O(a)$ means, and you should probably write $f(a,theta)$ rather than just $f(a)$. It is true that $f(a,theta) sim -frac{a}{pi} tan^2(theta)$ if $theta$ is fixed and $cos(theta) ne 0$. But if $cos(theta) = 0$, $f(a,theta) = pi/a$. Various
other possibilities exist if $cos(theta) to 0$ as $a to 0$. For example, if $theta = pi/2 + c a$ for constant $c ne 1/pi$,
$$ f(a,pi/2 + c a) sim frac{pi}{1 - pi^2 c^2} a^{-1}$$
while if $theta = pi/2 + a/pi$
$$ f(a, pi/2 + a/pi) sim frac{3 pi^3}{a^3} $$
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There being two variables $a$ and $theta$, you have to be careful with what $O(a)$ means, and you should probably write $f(a,theta)$ rather than just $f(a)$. It is true that $f(a,theta) sim -frac{a}{pi} tan^2(theta)$ if $theta$ is fixed and $cos(theta) ne 0$. But if $cos(theta) = 0$, $f(a,theta) = pi/a$. Various
other possibilities exist if $cos(theta) to 0$ as $a to 0$. For example, if $theta = pi/2 + c a$ for constant $c ne 1/pi$,
$$ f(a,pi/2 + c a) sim frac{pi}{1 - pi^2 c^2} a^{-1}$$
while if $theta = pi/2 + a/pi$
$$ f(a, pi/2 + a/pi) sim frac{3 pi^3}{a^3} $$
answered Dec 17 '18 at 20:25
Robert IsraelRobert Israel
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If I say that $theta=frac{pi}{2}pm epsilon$ where $epsilon$ is a very small number so $costheta$ is a small number but not exactly zero, then would $f(a)=-a~tan^2theta$ be true or not?
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– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:35
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If $epsilon$ is a nonzero constant, then indeed $f(a) = -frac{a}{pi} tan^2(theta) + O(a^3)$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 17 '18 at 20:51
add a comment |
$begingroup$
If I say that $theta=frac{pi}{2}pm epsilon$ where $epsilon$ is a very small number so $costheta$ is a small number but not exactly zero, then would $f(a)=-a~tan^2theta$ be true or not?
$endgroup$
– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:35
$begingroup$
If $epsilon$ is a nonzero constant, then indeed $f(a) = -frac{a}{pi} tan^2(theta) + O(a^3)$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 17 '18 at 20:51
$begingroup$
If I say that $theta=frac{pi}{2}pm epsilon$ where $epsilon$ is a very small number so $costheta$ is a small number but not exactly zero, then would $f(a)=-a~tan^2theta$ be true or not?
$endgroup$
– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:35
$begingroup$
If I say that $theta=frac{pi}{2}pm epsilon$ where $epsilon$ is a very small number so $costheta$ is a small number but not exactly zero, then would $f(a)=-a~tan^2theta$ be true or not?
$endgroup$
– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:35
$begingroup$
If $epsilon$ is a nonzero constant, then indeed $f(a) = -frac{a}{pi} tan^2(theta) + O(a^3)$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 17 '18 at 20:51
$begingroup$
If $epsilon$ is a nonzero constant, then indeed $f(a) = -frac{a}{pi} tan^2(theta) + O(a^3)$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 17 '18 at 20:51
add a comment |
$begingroup$
We know that near $X=0$,
$$frac{1}{1-X}=1+X+X^2+...$$
$$=1+O(X)$$
thus
$$f(a)=-frac{api^2sin^2(theta)}{pi^2cos^2(theta)}frac{1}{1-frac{a^2}{pi^2cos^2(theta)}}$$
$$=-atan^2(theta)Bigl(1+O(a^2)Bigr)$$
$$=-atan^2(theta)+O(a)$$
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How are treating the denominator in $1-X$ form in this case?
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– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:12
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@Parveen Please look again.
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– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 17 '18 at 20:16
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This doesnt address the case $cos(theta) to 0$.
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– Robert Israel
Dec 17 '18 at 20:17
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You got the same answer as I mentioned in my post. As $tan^2theta$ diverges as $theta$ goes to $pi/2$, I doubt whether this is correct thing to do!
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– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:20
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If $thetato pi/2$ then $f(a)=frac{pi^2}{a}$ goes to infty when $ato 0$.
$endgroup$
– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 17 '18 at 20:23
add a comment |
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We know that near $X=0$,
$$frac{1}{1-X}=1+X+X^2+...$$
$$=1+O(X)$$
thus
$$f(a)=-frac{api^2sin^2(theta)}{pi^2cos^2(theta)}frac{1}{1-frac{a^2}{pi^2cos^2(theta)}}$$
$$=-atan^2(theta)Bigl(1+O(a^2)Bigr)$$
$$=-atan^2(theta)+O(a)$$
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How are treating the denominator in $1-X$ form in this case?
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– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:12
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@Parveen Please look again.
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– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 17 '18 at 20:16
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This doesnt address the case $cos(theta) to 0$.
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– Robert Israel
Dec 17 '18 at 20:17
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You got the same answer as I mentioned in my post. As $tan^2theta$ diverges as $theta$ goes to $pi/2$, I doubt whether this is correct thing to do!
$endgroup$
– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:20
$begingroup$
If $thetato pi/2$ then $f(a)=frac{pi^2}{a}$ goes to infty when $ato 0$.
$endgroup$
– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 17 '18 at 20:23
add a comment |
$begingroup$
We know that near $X=0$,
$$frac{1}{1-X}=1+X+X^2+...$$
$$=1+O(X)$$
thus
$$f(a)=-frac{api^2sin^2(theta)}{pi^2cos^2(theta)}frac{1}{1-frac{a^2}{pi^2cos^2(theta)}}$$
$$=-atan^2(theta)Bigl(1+O(a^2)Bigr)$$
$$=-atan^2(theta)+O(a)$$
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We know that near $X=0$,
$$frac{1}{1-X}=1+X+X^2+...$$
$$=1+O(X)$$
thus
$$f(a)=-frac{api^2sin^2(theta)}{pi^2cos^2(theta)}frac{1}{1-frac{a^2}{pi^2cos^2(theta)}}$$
$$=-atan^2(theta)Bigl(1+O(a^2)Bigr)$$
$$=-atan^2(theta)+O(a)$$
edited Dec 17 '18 at 20:19
answered Dec 17 '18 at 20:09
hamam_Abdallahhamam_Abdallah
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How are treating the denominator in $1-X$ form in this case?
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– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:12
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@Parveen Please look again.
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– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 17 '18 at 20:16
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This doesnt address the case $cos(theta) to 0$.
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– Robert Israel
Dec 17 '18 at 20:17
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You got the same answer as I mentioned in my post. As $tan^2theta$ diverges as $theta$ goes to $pi/2$, I doubt whether this is correct thing to do!
$endgroup$
– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:20
$begingroup$
If $thetato pi/2$ then $f(a)=frac{pi^2}{a}$ goes to infty when $ato 0$.
$endgroup$
– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 17 '18 at 20:23
add a comment |
$begingroup$
How are treating the denominator in $1-X$ form in this case?
$endgroup$
– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:12
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@Parveen Please look again.
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– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 17 '18 at 20:16
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This doesnt address the case $cos(theta) to 0$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 17 '18 at 20:17
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You got the same answer as I mentioned in my post. As $tan^2theta$ diverges as $theta$ goes to $pi/2$, I doubt whether this is correct thing to do!
$endgroup$
– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:20
$begingroup$
If $thetato pi/2$ then $f(a)=frac{pi^2}{a}$ goes to infty when $ato 0$.
$endgroup$
– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 17 '18 at 20:23
$begingroup$
How are treating the denominator in $1-X$ form in this case?
$endgroup$
– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:12
$begingroup$
How are treating the denominator in $1-X$ form in this case?
$endgroup$
– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:12
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@Parveen Please look again.
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– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 17 '18 at 20:16
$begingroup$
@Parveen Please look again.
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– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 17 '18 at 20:16
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This doesnt address the case $cos(theta) to 0$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 17 '18 at 20:17
$begingroup$
This doesnt address the case $cos(theta) to 0$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Israel
Dec 17 '18 at 20:17
$begingroup$
You got the same answer as I mentioned in my post. As $tan^2theta$ diverges as $theta$ goes to $pi/2$, I doubt whether this is correct thing to do!
$endgroup$
– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:20
$begingroup$
You got the same answer as I mentioned in my post. As $tan^2theta$ diverges as $theta$ goes to $pi/2$, I doubt whether this is correct thing to do!
$endgroup$
– Parveen
Dec 17 '18 at 20:20
$begingroup$
If $thetato pi/2$ then $f(a)=frac{pi^2}{a}$ goes to infty when $ato 0$.
$endgroup$
– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 17 '18 at 20:23
$begingroup$
If $thetato pi/2$ then $f(a)=frac{pi^2}{a}$ goes to infty when $ato 0$.
$endgroup$
– hamam_Abdallah
Dec 17 '18 at 20:23
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