Proving $lim_{x rightarrow 3} (x^3-9x)/(x-3)=18$ by definition












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(a) Find the following limit value, L: $$lim_{x rightarrow 3} (x^3-9x)/(x-3) = L$$
(b) Prove your result obtained in (a) above, using the precise definition of a limit (via the $varepsilon-delta$ formalism)



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I was able to find (a) $L = 18$, and I used the description in my notes to determine the proof, but I'm not quite sure of my working. Please view image for solution.



(b) $|f(x) - L| = |(x^3 - 9x)/(x-3) - 18| = |(x^3 - 27x + 54)/(x-3)| = |(x-3)(x+6)|$



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(a) Find the following limit value, L: $$lim_{x rightarrow 3} (x^3-9x)/(x-3) = L$$
(b) Prove your result obtained in (a) above, using the precise definition of a limit (via the $varepsilon-delta$ formalism)



Solutions



I was able to find (a) $L = 18$, and I used the description in my notes to determine the proof, but I'm not quite sure of my working. Please view image for solution.



(b) $|f(x) - L| = |(x^3 - 9x)/(x-3) - 18| = |(x^3 - 27x + 54)/(x-3)| = |(x-3)(x+6)|$



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    @TyJohnson You have already done so by typesetting your arguments. He/She was probably talking about the solution photo link. Anyway, answer added below using $epsilon-delta$.
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(a) Find the following limit value, L: $$lim_{x rightarrow 3} (x^3-9x)/(x-3) = L$$
(b) Prove your result obtained in (a) above, using the precise definition of a limit (via the $varepsilon-delta$ formalism)



Solutions



I was able to find (a) $L = 18$, and I used the description in my notes to determine the proof, but I'm not quite sure of my working. Please view image for solution.



(b) $|f(x) - L| = |(x^3 - 9x)/(x-3) - 18| = |(x^3 - 27x + 54)/(x-3)| = |(x-3)(x+6)|$



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(a) Find the following limit value, L: $$lim_{x rightarrow 3} (x^3-9x)/(x-3) = L$$
(b) Prove your result obtained in (a) above, using the precise definition of a limit (via the $varepsilon-delta$ formalism)



Solutions



I was able to find (a) $L = 18$, and I used the description in my notes to determine the proof, but I'm not quite sure of my working. Please view image for solution.



(b) $|f(x) - L| = |(x^3 - 9x)/(x-3) - 18| = |(x^3 - 27x + 54)/(x-3)| = |(x-3)(x+6)|$



I don't know where to go from here.







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Since you want the find the limit at $x=3$, you have to prove that for $|x-3|<delta$ there exists an $epsilon >0$ such that $|f(x) - 18| < epsilon$.



Since $|f(x) - 18| = |(x-3)(x+6)|$, note that $|x-3| < delta$ by the initial hypothesis of the $epsilon-delta$ definition. Thus :



$$|f(x)-18| < delta|x+6|$$



But :



$$|x-3| < delta Leftrightarrow -delta < x-3 < delta Leftrightarrow 9-delta < x+6 < 9+delta $$



Thus



$$|f(x)-18|<delta(9+delta) equiv epsilon$$



since it can be made arbitrary small with $delta >0$ and the proof is completed.






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    For (a) notice that:
    $$lim_{x rightarrow 3} frac{x^3 -9x}{x-3}=lim_{x rightarrow 3} frac{x(x+3)(x-3)}{x-3}= lim_{x rightarrow 3}x^2 +3x= 9+9=18. $$
    So $L=18$, As you indeed got.



    As for $(b)$ we often write out the definition of the limit if we want to do limit proofs, let $varepsilon$ be arbitrary, then for some $delta$, whenever $|x-3|< delta$, we need to show that $|f(x)-18|< varepsilon$, this part is very important we notice that this is the part that appears in your proof!, so we know that
    $$|x-3| |x+6|< delta |x+6|$$



    If we could only find some sort of bound on $|x+6|$, we could complete the proof and we would know what $varepsilon$ to pick. We notice that since $|x-3| < delta$ we can also say that $x in (3- delta, 3+ delta)$ now choose as a test $delta =1$ then we have that $x in (2, 4)$, in this way we can now say that:



    $$ delta |x+6| <delta |4+6|=10 delta$$
    Now if we pick $delta = frac{varepsilon}{10}$ we have a complete proof.
    So let $delta =min(1, frac{varepsilon}{10})$ and you have a proof.



    Let us complete your proof:
    Let $epsilon >0$ be given, then let $delta = min(1, frac{epsilon}{10})$, notice that whenever $ |x-3|< delta $ we have that:
    $$|f(x) - L| = left| frac{x(x-3)(x+3)}{x-3} -18 right| $$ $$= |x(x+3) - 18| = |x^2+3x-18| = |(x-3)(x+6)|< delta cdot 10 leq epsilon$$



    Basically, the game is to estimate and bound $x$ in such a way that we can get a very nice expression for our absolute value expression and we get a nice relation of some number times $delta$. We then choose our $delta$ to be some function of $epsilon$ and we are done. That's the ultimate goal, to estimate and approximate until we are close enough. How close is close enough - well that's where a lot of the fun lies!






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      HINT:



      Use that $$x^3+9x=x(x+3)(x-3)$$






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      Since you want the find the limit at $x=3$, you have to prove that for $|x-3|<delta$ there exists an $epsilon >0$ such that $|f(x) - 18| < epsilon$.



      Since $|f(x) - 18| = |(x-3)(x+6)|$, note that $|x-3| < delta$ by the initial hypothesis of the $epsilon-delta$ definition. Thus :



      $$|f(x)-18| < delta|x+6|$$



      But :



      $$|x-3| < delta Leftrightarrow -delta < x-3 < delta Leftrightarrow 9-delta < x+6 < 9+delta $$



      Thus



      $$|f(x)-18|<delta(9+delta) equiv epsilon$$



      since it can be made arbitrary small with $delta >0$ and the proof is completed.






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        Since you want the find the limit at $x=3$, you have to prove that for $|x-3|<delta$ there exists an $epsilon >0$ such that $|f(x) - 18| < epsilon$.



        Since $|f(x) - 18| = |(x-3)(x+6)|$, note that $|x-3| < delta$ by the initial hypothesis of the $epsilon-delta$ definition. Thus :



        $$|f(x)-18| < delta|x+6|$$



        But :



        $$|x-3| < delta Leftrightarrow -delta < x-3 < delta Leftrightarrow 9-delta < x+6 < 9+delta $$



        Thus



        $$|f(x)-18|<delta(9+delta) equiv epsilon$$



        since it can be made arbitrary small with $delta >0$ and the proof is completed.






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          Since you want the find the limit at $x=3$, you have to prove that for $|x-3|<delta$ there exists an $epsilon >0$ such that $|f(x) - 18| < epsilon$.



          Since $|f(x) - 18| = |(x-3)(x+6)|$, note that $|x-3| < delta$ by the initial hypothesis of the $epsilon-delta$ definition. Thus :



          $$|f(x)-18| < delta|x+6|$$



          But :



          $$|x-3| < delta Leftrightarrow -delta < x-3 < delta Leftrightarrow 9-delta < x+6 < 9+delta $$



          Thus



          $$|f(x)-18|<delta(9+delta) equiv epsilon$$



          since it can be made arbitrary small with $delta >0$ and the proof is completed.






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          Since you want the find the limit at $x=3$, you have to prove that for $|x-3|<delta$ there exists an $epsilon >0$ such that $|f(x) - 18| < epsilon$.



          Since $|f(x) - 18| = |(x-3)(x+6)|$, note that $|x-3| < delta$ by the initial hypothesis of the $epsilon-delta$ definition. Thus :



          $$|f(x)-18| < delta|x+6|$$



          But :



          $$|x-3| < delta Leftrightarrow -delta < x-3 < delta Leftrightarrow 9-delta < x+6 < 9+delta $$



          Thus



          $$|f(x)-18|<delta(9+delta) equiv epsilon$$



          since it can be made arbitrary small with $delta >0$ and the proof is completed.







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              For (a) notice that:
              $$lim_{x rightarrow 3} frac{x^3 -9x}{x-3}=lim_{x rightarrow 3} frac{x(x+3)(x-3)}{x-3}= lim_{x rightarrow 3}x^2 +3x= 9+9=18. $$
              So $L=18$, As you indeed got.



              As for $(b)$ we often write out the definition of the limit if we want to do limit proofs, let $varepsilon$ be arbitrary, then for some $delta$, whenever $|x-3|< delta$, we need to show that $|f(x)-18|< varepsilon$, this part is very important we notice that this is the part that appears in your proof!, so we know that
              $$|x-3| |x+6|< delta |x+6|$$



              If we could only find some sort of bound on $|x+6|$, we could complete the proof and we would know what $varepsilon$ to pick. We notice that since $|x-3| < delta$ we can also say that $x in (3- delta, 3+ delta)$ now choose as a test $delta =1$ then we have that $x in (2, 4)$, in this way we can now say that:



              $$ delta |x+6| <delta |4+6|=10 delta$$
              Now if we pick $delta = frac{varepsilon}{10}$ we have a complete proof.
              So let $delta =min(1, frac{varepsilon}{10})$ and you have a proof.



              Let us complete your proof:
              Let $epsilon >0$ be given, then let $delta = min(1, frac{epsilon}{10})$, notice that whenever $ |x-3|< delta $ we have that:
              $$|f(x) - L| = left| frac{x(x-3)(x+3)}{x-3} -18 right| $$ $$= |x(x+3) - 18| = |x^2+3x-18| = |(x-3)(x+6)|< delta cdot 10 leq epsilon$$



              Basically, the game is to estimate and bound $x$ in such a way that we can get a very nice expression for our absolute value expression and we get a nice relation of some number times $delta$. We then choose our $delta$ to be some function of $epsilon$ and we are done. That's the ultimate goal, to estimate and approximate until we are close enough. How close is close enough - well that's where a lot of the fun lies!






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                For (a) notice that:
                $$lim_{x rightarrow 3} frac{x^3 -9x}{x-3}=lim_{x rightarrow 3} frac{x(x+3)(x-3)}{x-3}= lim_{x rightarrow 3}x^2 +3x= 9+9=18. $$
                So $L=18$, As you indeed got.



                As for $(b)$ we often write out the definition of the limit if we want to do limit proofs, let $varepsilon$ be arbitrary, then for some $delta$, whenever $|x-3|< delta$, we need to show that $|f(x)-18|< varepsilon$, this part is very important we notice that this is the part that appears in your proof!, so we know that
                $$|x-3| |x+6|< delta |x+6|$$



                If we could only find some sort of bound on $|x+6|$, we could complete the proof and we would know what $varepsilon$ to pick. We notice that since $|x-3| < delta$ we can also say that $x in (3- delta, 3+ delta)$ now choose as a test $delta =1$ then we have that $x in (2, 4)$, in this way we can now say that:



                $$ delta |x+6| <delta |4+6|=10 delta$$
                Now if we pick $delta = frac{varepsilon}{10}$ we have a complete proof.
                So let $delta =min(1, frac{varepsilon}{10})$ and you have a proof.



                Let us complete your proof:
                Let $epsilon >0$ be given, then let $delta = min(1, frac{epsilon}{10})$, notice that whenever $ |x-3|< delta $ we have that:
                $$|f(x) - L| = left| frac{x(x-3)(x+3)}{x-3} -18 right| $$ $$= |x(x+3) - 18| = |x^2+3x-18| = |(x-3)(x+6)|< delta cdot 10 leq epsilon$$



                Basically, the game is to estimate and bound $x$ in such a way that we can get a very nice expression for our absolute value expression and we get a nice relation of some number times $delta$. We then choose our $delta$ to be some function of $epsilon$ and we are done. That's the ultimate goal, to estimate and approximate until we are close enough. How close is close enough - well that's where a lot of the fun lies!






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                  For (a) notice that:
                  $$lim_{x rightarrow 3} frac{x^3 -9x}{x-3}=lim_{x rightarrow 3} frac{x(x+3)(x-3)}{x-3}= lim_{x rightarrow 3}x^2 +3x= 9+9=18. $$
                  So $L=18$, As you indeed got.



                  As for $(b)$ we often write out the definition of the limit if we want to do limit proofs, let $varepsilon$ be arbitrary, then for some $delta$, whenever $|x-3|< delta$, we need to show that $|f(x)-18|< varepsilon$, this part is very important we notice that this is the part that appears in your proof!, so we know that
                  $$|x-3| |x+6|< delta |x+6|$$



                  If we could only find some sort of bound on $|x+6|$, we could complete the proof and we would know what $varepsilon$ to pick. We notice that since $|x-3| < delta$ we can also say that $x in (3- delta, 3+ delta)$ now choose as a test $delta =1$ then we have that $x in (2, 4)$, in this way we can now say that:



                  $$ delta |x+6| <delta |4+6|=10 delta$$
                  Now if we pick $delta = frac{varepsilon}{10}$ we have a complete proof.
                  So let $delta =min(1, frac{varepsilon}{10})$ and you have a proof.



                  Let us complete your proof:
                  Let $epsilon >0$ be given, then let $delta = min(1, frac{epsilon}{10})$, notice that whenever $ |x-3|< delta $ we have that:
                  $$|f(x) - L| = left| frac{x(x-3)(x+3)}{x-3} -18 right| $$ $$= |x(x+3) - 18| = |x^2+3x-18| = |(x-3)(x+6)|< delta cdot 10 leq epsilon$$



                  Basically, the game is to estimate and bound $x$ in such a way that we can get a very nice expression for our absolute value expression and we get a nice relation of some number times $delta$. We then choose our $delta$ to be some function of $epsilon$ and we are done. That's the ultimate goal, to estimate and approximate until we are close enough. How close is close enough - well that's where a lot of the fun lies!






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                  For (a) notice that:
                  $$lim_{x rightarrow 3} frac{x^3 -9x}{x-3}=lim_{x rightarrow 3} frac{x(x+3)(x-3)}{x-3}= lim_{x rightarrow 3}x^2 +3x= 9+9=18. $$
                  So $L=18$, As you indeed got.



                  As for $(b)$ we often write out the definition of the limit if we want to do limit proofs, let $varepsilon$ be arbitrary, then for some $delta$, whenever $|x-3|< delta$, we need to show that $|f(x)-18|< varepsilon$, this part is very important we notice that this is the part that appears in your proof!, so we know that
                  $$|x-3| |x+6|< delta |x+6|$$



                  If we could only find some sort of bound on $|x+6|$, we could complete the proof and we would know what $varepsilon$ to pick. We notice that since $|x-3| < delta$ we can also say that $x in (3- delta, 3+ delta)$ now choose as a test $delta =1$ then we have that $x in (2, 4)$, in this way we can now say that:



                  $$ delta |x+6| <delta |4+6|=10 delta$$
                  Now if we pick $delta = frac{varepsilon}{10}$ we have a complete proof.
                  So let $delta =min(1, frac{varepsilon}{10})$ and you have a proof.



                  Let us complete your proof:
                  Let $epsilon >0$ be given, then let $delta = min(1, frac{epsilon}{10})$, notice that whenever $ |x-3|< delta $ we have that:
                  $$|f(x) - L| = left| frac{x(x-3)(x+3)}{x-3} -18 right| $$ $$= |x(x+3) - 18| = |x^2+3x-18| = |(x-3)(x+6)|< delta cdot 10 leq epsilon$$



                  Basically, the game is to estimate and bound $x$ in such a way that we can get a very nice expression for our absolute value expression and we get a nice relation of some number times $delta$. We then choose our $delta$ to be some function of $epsilon$ and we are done. That's the ultimate goal, to estimate and approximate until we are close enough. How close is close enough - well that's where a lot of the fun lies!







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                      HINT:



                      Use that $$x^3+9x=x(x+3)(x-3)$$






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                      • $begingroup$
                        He wants to prove the limit by the $epsilon - delta$ definition.
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                        – Rebellos
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                      $begingroup$

                      HINT:



                      Use that $$x^3+9x=x(x+3)(x-3)$$






                      share|cite|improve this answer









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                      • $begingroup$
                        He wants to prove the limit by the $epsilon - delta$ definition.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Rebellos
                        Dec 2 '18 at 0:05














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                      $begingroup$

                      HINT:



                      Use that $$x^3+9x=x(x+3)(x-3)$$






                      share|cite|improve this answer









                      $endgroup$



                      HINT:



                      Use that $$x^3+9x=x(x+3)(x-3)$$







                      share|cite|improve this answer












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                      answered Dec 2 '18 at 0:04









                      Rhys HughesRhys Hughes

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                      • $begingroup$
                        He wants to prove the limit by the $epsilon - delta$ definition.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Rebellos
                        Dec 2 '18 at 0:05


















                      • $begingroup$
                        He wants to prove the limit by the $epsilon - delta$ definition.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Rebellos
                        Dec 2 '18 at 0:05
















                      $begingroup$
                      He wants to prove the limit by the $epsilon - delta$ definition.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Rebellos
                      Dec 2 '18 at 0:05




                      $begingroup$
                      He wants to prove the limit by the $epsilon - delta$ definition.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Rebellos
                      Dec 2 '18 at 0:05


















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