Differentiability of a function that is $x^2$ on rational and 0 on irrational. [closed]
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Let f = $begin{cases}x^2,& x inmathbb{Q}\
0,& xin mathbb{R}setminus mathbb{Q}end{cases}$
Is $f$ differentiable at $x = 0$?
calculus real-analysis derivatives
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Let f = $begin{cases}x^2,& x inmathbb{Q}\
0,& xin mathbb{R}setminus mathbb{Q}end{cases}$
Is $f$ differentiable at $x = 0$?
calculus real-analysis derivatives
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Let f = $begin{cases}x^2,& x inmathbb{Q}\
0,& xin mathbb{R}setminus mathbb{Q}end{cases}$
Is $f$ differentiable at $x = 0$?
calculus real-analysis derivatives
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Let f = $begin{cases}x^2,& x inmathbb{Q}\
0,& xin mathbb{R}setminus mathbb{Q}end{cases}$
Is $f$ differentiable at $x = 0$?
calculus real-analysis derivatives
calculus real-analysis derivatives
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Just compute the limit: for $x_nto 0$ (obviously $x_nne 0$) a sequence,
$$
lim_{nto infty}f(x_n)/x_n=begin{cases}0,& x_nin mathbb{Q}\
x_n,&x_nin mathbb{R}setminus mathbb{Q} \
end{cases}
$$
In either case, the limit is $0$.
If you like your epsilons and deltas, fix $epsilon>0$. Then choose $delta=sqrt{epsilon}$. Then, if $0<|x|<delta$, we have
$$
|f(x)/x|<epsilon
$$
since again, the $f(x)/x$ is either $0$ or $x$. So the derivative exists and is $0$.
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It's very easy to show that if $g$ is a bounded function defined on an interval containing zero then $f(x):=x^2g(x)$ is differentiable at $x=0$ and $f'(0)=0$. Now choose
$$g(x) = begin{cases}1,& x inmathbb{Q};\
0,& xin mathbb{R}setminus mathbb{Q}.end{cases}$$
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Just compute the limit: for $x_nto 0$ (obviously $x_nne 0$) a sequence,
$$
lim_{nto infty}f(x_n)/x_n=begin{cases}0,& x_nin mathbb{Q}\
x_n,&x_nin mathbb{R}setminus mathbb{Q} \
end{cases}
$$
In either case, the limit is $0$.
If you like your epsilons and deltas, fix $epsilon>0$. Then choose $delta=sqrt{epsilon}$. Then, if $0<|x|<delta$, we have
$$
|f(x)/x|<epsilon
$$
since again, the $f(x)/x$ is either $0$ or $x$. So the derivative exists and is $0$.
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Just compute the limit: for $x_nto 0$ (obviously $x_nne 0$) a sequence,
$$
lim_{nto infty}f(x_n)/x_n=begin{cases}0,& x_nin mathbb{Q}\
x_n,&x_nin mathbb{R}setminus mathbb{Q} \
end{cases}
$$
In either case, the limit is $0$.
If you like your epsilons and deltas, fix $epsilon>0$. Then choose $delta=sqrt{epsilon}$. Then, if $0<|x|<delta$, we have
$$
|f(x)/x|<epsilon
$$
since again, the $f(x)/x$ is either $0$ or $x$. So the derivative exists and is $0$.
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Just compute the limit: for $x_nto 0$ (obviously $x_nne 0$) a sequence,
$$
lim_{nto infty}f(x_n)/x_n=begin{cases}0,& x_nin mathbb{Q}\
x_n,&x_nin mathbb{R}setminus mathbb{Q} \
end{cases}
$$
In either case, the limit is $0$.
If you like your epsilons and deltas, fix $epsilon>0$. Then choose $delta=sqrt{epsilon}$. Then, if $0<|x|<delta$, we have
$$
|f(x)/x|<epsilon
$$
since again, the $f(x)/x$ is either $0$ or $x$. So the derivative exists and is $0$.
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Just compute the limit: for $x_nto 0$ (obviously $x_nne 0$) a sequence,
$$
lim_{nto infty}f(x_n)/x_n=begin{cases}0,& x_nin mathbb{Q}\
x_n,&x_nin mathbb{R}setminus mathbb{Q} \
end{cases}
$$
In either case, the limit is $0$.
If you like your epsilons and deltas, fix $epsilon>0$. Then choose $delta=sqrt{epsilon}$. Then, if $0<|x|<delta$, we have
$$
|f(x)/x|<epsilon
$$
since again, the $f(x)/x$ is either $0$ or $x$. So the derivative exists and is $0$.
answered Dec 2 '18 at 1:32
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It's very easy to show that if $g$ is a bounded function defined on an interval containing zero then $f(x):=x^2g(x)$ is differentiable at $x=0$ and $f'(0)=0$. Now choose
$$g(x) = begin{cases}1,& x inmathbb{Q};\
0,& xin mathbb{R}setminus mathbb{Q}.end{cases}$$
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It's very easy to show that if $g$ is a bounded function defined on an interval containing zero then $f(x):=x^2g(x)$ is differentiable at $x=0$ and $f'(0)=0$. Now choose
$$g(x) = begin{cases}1,& x inmathbb{Q};\
0,& xin mathbb{R}setminus mathbb{Q}.end{cases}$$
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It's very easy to show that if $g$ is a bounded function defined on an interval containing zero then $f(x):=x^2g(x)$ is differentiable at $x=0$ and $f'(0)=0$. Now choose
$$g(x) = begin{cases}1,& x inmathbb{Q};\
0,& xin mathbb{R}setminus mathbb{Q}.end{cases}$$
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It's very easy to show that if $g$ is a bounded function defined on an interval containing zero then $f(x):=x^2g(x)$ is differentiable at $x=0$ and $f'(0)=0$. Now choose
$$g(x) = begin{cases}1,& x inmathbb{Q};\
0,& xin mathbb{R}setminus mathbb{Q}.end{cases}$$
answered Dec 2 '18 at 15:02
Michael HoppeMichael Hoppe
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