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  • Show that the three pieces of the circle could be slide to create an inscribed circle in the triangle. I wonder about the 9 but the side may be calculated from the inscribed circle with radius 20.
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  • What does r = 20 mean?
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  • Show that the three pieces of the circle could be slide to create an inscribed circle in the triangle. I wonder about the 9 but the side may be calculated from the inscribed circle with radius 20.
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  • What does r = 20 mean?
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  • come on ? why downvoting? you could have attempted instead of downvoting?
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  • Show that the three pieces of the circle could be slide to create an inscribed circle in the triangle. I wonder about the 9 but the side may be calculated from the inscribed circle with radius 20.
    – Moti
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  • What does r = 20 mean?
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  • @moti how can i show they can be inscribed?
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  • come on ? why downvoting? you could have attempted instead of downvoting?
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  • Show that the three pieces of the circle could be slide to create an inscribed circle in the triangle. I wonder about the 9 but the side may be calculated from the inscribed circle with radius 20.
    – Moti
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  • What does r = 20 mean?
    – William Elliot
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  • @moti how can i show they can be inscribed?
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come on ? why downvoting? you could have attempted instead of downvoting?
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come on ? why downvoting? you could have attempted instead of downvoting?
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Show that the three pieces of the circle could be slide to create an inscribed circle in the triangle. I wonder about the 9 but the side may be calculated from the inscribed circle with radius 20.
– Moti
9 hours ago




Show that the three pieces of the circle could be slide to create an inscribed circle in the triangle. I wonder about the 9 but the side may be calculated from the inscribed circle with radius 20.
– Moti
9 hours ago












What does r = 20 mean?
– William Elliot
9 hours ago




What does r = 20 mean?
– William Elliot
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@moti how can i show they can be inscribed?
– maveric
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@moti how can i show they can be inscribed?
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3 sectors in a triangle



Let $G$ be the common centroid for the two triangles.



Pick an edge, say $AB$, let $H$ be the vertex on the small triangle which is the
apex for the circular sector touching edge $AB$. Let $G'$ and $H'$ be the foot of
$G$ and $H$ on edge $AB$.



It is clear the distance of $G$ to line $AB$ is



$$|GG'| = |HH'| - |GH|cos(theta + frac{pi}{6})$$



where $theta$ is the angle illustrated in above diagram.



We know $|HH'| = 20$, the radius of the circular sectors. Since the small triangle has side
$9$, we also know $|GH| = 3sqrt{3}$. In the diagram above, we find



$$costheta = frac{|HH'|}{|DH|} = frac{20}{29}quadimpliesquadsintheta = frac{21}{29}$$
Combine these, we get



$$begin{align}|GG'|
&= 20 - 3sqrt{3}left(costhetacosfrac{pi}{6} - sinthetasinfrac{pi}{6}right)\
&= 20 - 3sqrt{3}left(frac{20}{29}cdotfrac{sqrt{3}}{2} - frac{21}{29}cdotfrac{1}{2}right)\
&= frac{980+63sqrt{3}}{58}
approx 18.77791725649723
end{align}
$$



As a corollary,



$$|AB| = |BC| = |CA| = 2sqrt{3}|GG'| = frac{189+980sqrt{3}}{29} approx 65.04861349715516$$






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Slide the third circles along the sides they tangent to - you will see that they merge into the inscribed circle. So the radius of the inscribed circle is 20.



The side of the triangle is than - $AB=2times sqrt{3}times 20 $






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3 sectors in a triangle



Let $G$ be the common centroid for the two triangles.



Pick an edge, say $AB$, let $H$ be the vertex on the small triangle which is the
apex for the circular sector touching edge $AB$. Let $G'$ and $H'$ be the foot of
$G$ and $H$ on edge $AB$.



It is clear the distance of $G$ to line $AB$ is



$$|GG'| = |HH'| - |GH|cos(theta + frac{pi}{6})$$



where $theta$ is the angle illustrated in above diagram.



We know $|HH'| = 20$, the radius of the circular sectors. Since the small triangle has side
$9$, we also know $|GH| = 3sqrt{3}$. In the diagram above, we find



$$costheta = frac{|HH'|}{|DH|} = frac{20}{29}quadimpliesquadsintheta = frac{21}{29}$$
Combine these, we get



$$begin{align}|GG'|
&= 20 - 3sqrt{3}left(costhetacosfrac{pi}{6} - sinthetasinfrac{pi}{6}right)\
&= 20 - 3sqrt{3}left(frac{20}{29}cdotfrac{sqrt{3}}{2} - frac{21}{29}cdotfrac{1}{2}right)\
&= frac{980+63sqrt{3}}{58}
approx 18.77791725649723
end{align}
$$



As a corollary,



$$|AB| = |BC| = |CA| = 2sqrt{3}|GG'| = frac{189+980sqrt{3}}{29} approx 65.04861349715516$$






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3 sectors in a triangle



Let $G$ be the common centroid for the two triangles.



Pick an edge, say $AB$, let $H$ be the vertex on the small triangle which is the
apex for the circular sector touching edge $AB$. Let $G'$ and $H'$ be the foot of
$G$ and $H$ on edge $AB$.



It is clear the distance of $G$ to line $AB$ is



$$|GG'| = |HH'| - |GH|cos(theta + frac{pi}{6})$$



where $theta$ is the angle illustrated in above diagram.



We know $|HH'| = 20$, the radius of the circular sectors. Since the small triangle has side
$9$, we also know $|GH| = 3sqrt{3}$. In the diagram above, we find



$$costheta = frac{|HH'|}{|DH|} = frac{20}{29}quadimpliesquadsintheta = frac{21}{29}$$
Combine these, we get



$$begin{align}|GG'|
&= 20 - 3sqrt{3}left(costhetacosfrac{pi}{6} - sinthetasinfrac{pi}{6}right)\
&= 20 - 3sqrt{3}left(frac{20}{29}cdotfrac{sqrt{3}}{2} - frac{21}{29}cdotfrac{1}{2}right)\
&= frac{980+63sqrt{3}}{58}
approx 18.77791725649723
end{align}
$$



As a corollary,



$$|AB| = |BC| = |CA| = 2sqrt{3}|GG'| = frac{189+980sqrt{3}}{29} approx 65.04861349715516$$






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3 sectors in a triangle



Let $G$ be the common centroid for the two triangles.



Pick an edge, say $AB$, let $H$ be the vertex on the small triangle which is the
apex for the circular sector touching edge $AB$. Let $G'$ and $H'$ be the foot of
$G$ and $H$ on edge $AB$.



It is clear the distance of $G$ to line $AB$ is



$$|GG'| = |HH'| - |GH|cos(theta + frac{pi}{6})$$



where $theta$ is the angle illustrated in above diagram.



We know $|HH'| = 20$, the radius of the circular sectors. Since the small triangle has side
$9$, we also know $|GH| = 3sqrt{3}$. In the diagram above, we find



$$costheta = frac{|HH'|}{|DH|} = frac{20}{29}quadimpliesquadsintheta = frac{21}{29}$$
Combine these, we get



$$begin{align}|GG'|
&= 20 - 3sqrt{3}left(costhetacosfrac{pi}{6} - sinthetasinfrac{pi}{6}right)\
&= 20 - 3sqrt{3}left(frac{20}{29}cdotfrac{sqrt{3}}{2} - frac{21}{29}cdotfrac{1}{2}right)\
&= frac{980+63sqrt{3}}{58}
approx 18.77791725649723
end{align}
$$



As a corollary,



$$|AB| = |BC| = |CA| = 2sqrt{3}|GG'| = frac{189+980sqrt{3}}{29} approx 65.04861349715516$$






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3 sectors in a triangle



Let $G$ be the common centroid for the two triangles.



Pick an edge, say $AB$, let $H$ be the vertex on the small triangle which is the
apex for the circular sector touching edge $AB$. Let $G'$ and $H'$ be the foot of
$G$ and $H$ on edge $AB$.



It is clear the distance of $G$ to line $AB$ is



$$|GG'| = |HH'| - |GH|cos(theta + frac{pi}{6})$$



where $theta$ is the angle illustrated in above diagram.



We know $|HH'| = 20$, the radius of the circular sectors. Since the small triangle has side
$9$, we also know $|GH| = 3sqrt{3}$. In the diagram above, we find



$$costheta = frac{|HH'|}{|DH|} = frac{20}{29}quadimpliesquadsintheta = frac{21}{29}$$
Combine these, we get



$$begin{align}|GG'|
&= 20 - 3sqrt{3}left(costhetacosfrac{pi}{6} - sinthetasinfrac{pi}{6}right)\
&= 20 - 3sqrt{3}left(frac{20}{29}cdotfrac{sqrt{3}}{2} - frac{21}{29}cdotfrac{1}{2}right)\
&= frac{980+63sqrt{3}}{58}
approx 18.77791725649723
end{align}
$$



As a corollary,



$$|AB| = |BC| = |CA| = 2sqrt{3}|GG'| = frac{189+980sqrt{3}}{29} approx 65.04861349715516$$







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Slide the third circles along the sides they tangent to - you will see that they merge into the inscribed circle. So the radius of the inscribed circle is 20.



The side of the triangle is than - $AB=2times sqrt{3}times 20 $






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Slide the third circles along the sides they tangent to - you will see that they merge into the inscribed circle. So the radius of the inscribed circle is 20.



The side of the triangle is than - $AB=2times sqrt{3}times 20 $






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Slide the third circles along the sides they tangent to - you will see that they merge into the inscribed circle. So the radius of the inscribed circle is 20.



The side of the triangle is than - $AB=2times sqrt{3}times 20 $






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Slide the third circles along the sides they tangent to - you will see that they merge into the inscribed circle. So the radius of the inscribed circle is 20.



The side of the triangle is than - $AB=2times sqrt{3}times 20 $







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