How to compute $(-1)^{n+1}n!(1-esum_{k=0}^nfrac{(-1)^k}{k!})$?
up vote
2
down vote
favorite
I was doing some work on the integral $int_0^1 x^ne^x dx$ and I eventually came to this expression in terms of n $$int_0^1 x^ne^x dx=(-1)^{n+1}n!biggl(1-esum_{k=0}^nfrac{(-1)^k}{k!}biggr)$$ Now my question is this, how do I compute the limit of this expression as $n$ goes to $infty$? I recognize that $$lim_{ntoinfty}esum_{k=0}^{n}frac{(-1)^k}{k!}=1$$ per the series expression of $e^x$ at $-1$. This gives me an indeterminate form, but I can't apply L'Hopital's rule because I can't differentiate $n!$ (or $1/n!$ as the case would be after re-arranging), and I also can't think of a variable substitution that would help me here. Common sense and wolfram definitely imply that the limit is in fact $0$, but how can I show this?
calculus integration limits definite-integrals exponential-function
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
favorite
I was doing some work on the integral $int_0^1 x^ne^x dx$ and I eventually came to this expression in terms of n $$int_0^1 x^ne^x dx=(-1)^{n+1}n!biggl(1-esum_{k=0}^nfrac{(-1)^k}{k!}biggr)$$ Now my question is this, how do I compute the limit of this expression as $n$ goes to $infty$? I recognize that $$lim_{ntoinfty}esum_{k=0}^{n}frac{(-1)^k}{k!}=1$$ per the series expression of $e^x$ at $-1$. This gives me an indeterminate form, but I can't apply L'Hopital's rule because I can't differentiate $n!$ (or $1/n!$ as the case would be after re-arranging), and I also can't think of a variable substitution that would help me here. Common sense and wolfram definitely imply that the limit is in fact $0$, but how can I show this?
calculus integration limits definite-integrals exponential-function
3
$n!=Gamma(n+1)$ is differentiable.
– J.G.
Nov 15 at 7:01
1
perhaps some properties of the gamma function/complex analysis would be useful
– rubikscube09
Nov 15 at 7:04
I'm not very familiar with the gamma function, is there any other way? And if not, how could I use the gamma function to do this? Also, would it be sufficient to show that the integrand approaches $0$ on the interval?
– JacksonFitzsimmons
Nov 15 at 7:06
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
favorite
up vote
2
down vote
favorite
I was doing some work on the integral $int_0^1 x^ne^x dx$ and I eventually came to this expression in terms of n $$int_0^1 x^ne^x dx=(-1)^{n+1}n!biggl(1-esum_{k=0}^nfrac{(-1)^k}{k!}biggr)$$ Now my question is this, how do I compute the limit of this expression as $n$ goes to $infty$? I recognize that $$lim_{ntoinfty}esum_{k=0}^{n}frac{(-1)^k}{k!}=1$$ per the series expression of $e^x$ at $-1$. This gives me an indeterminate form, but I can't apply L'Hopital's rule because I can't differentiate $n!$ (or $1/n!$ as the case would be after re-arranging), and I also can't think of a variable substitution that would help me here. Common sense and wolfram definitely imply that the limit is in fact $0$, but how can I show this?
calculus integration limits definite-integrals exponential-function
I was doing some work on the integral $int_0^1 x^ne^x dx$ and I eventually came to this expression in terms of n $$int_0^1 x^ne^x dx=(-1)^{n+1}n!biggl(1-esum_{k=0}^nfrac{(-1)^k}{k!}biggr)$$ Now my question is this, how do I compute the limit of this expression as $n$ goes to $infty$? I recognize that $$lim_{ntoinfty}esum_{k=0}^{n}frac{(-1)^k}{k!}=1$$ per the series expression of $e^x$ at $-1$. This gives me an indeterminate form, but I can't apply L'Hopital's rule because I can't differentiate $n!$ (or $1/n!$ as the case would be after re-arranging), and I also can't think of a variable substitution that would help me here. Common sense and wolfram definitely imply that the limit is in fact $0$, but how can I show this?
calculus integration limits definite-integrals exponential-function
calculus integration limits definite-integrals exponential-function
edited Nov 15 at 12:11
user21820
38k441149
38k441149
asked Nov 15 at 6:51
JacksonFitzsimmons
551212
551212
3
$n!=Gamma(n+1)$ is differentiable.
– J.G.
Nov 15 at 7:01
1
perhaps some properties of the gamma function/complex analysis would be useful
– rubikscube09
Nov 15 at 7:04
I'm not very familiar with the gamma function, is there any other way? And if not, how could I use the gamma function to do this? Also, would it be sufficient to show that the integrand approaches $0$ on the interval?
– JacksonFitzsimmons
Nov 15 at 7:06
add a comment |
3
$n!=Gamma(n+1)$ is differentiable.
– J.G.
Nov 15 at 7:01
1
perhaps some properties of the gamma function/complex analysis would be useful
– rubikscube09
Nov 15 at 7:04
I'm not very familiar with the gamma function, is there any other way? And if not, how could I use the gamma function to do this? Also, would it be sufficient to show that the integrand approaches $0$ on the interval?
– JacksonFitzsimmons
Nov 15 at 7:06
3
3
$n!=Gamma(n+1)$ is differentiable.
– J.G.
Nov 15 at 7:01
$n!=Gamma(n+1)$ is differentiable.
– J.G.
Nov 15 at 7:01
1
1
perhaps some properties of the gamma function/complex analysis would be useful
– rubikscube09
Nov 15 at 7:04
perhaps some properties of the gamma function/complex analysis would be useful
– rubikscube09
Nov 15 at 7:04
I'm not very familiar with the gamma function, is there any other way? And if not, how could I use the gamma function to do this? Also, would it be sufficient to show that the integrand approaches $0$ on the interval?
– JacksonFitzsimmons
Nov 15 at 7:06
I'm not very familiar with the gamma function, is there any other way? And if not, how could I use the gamma function to do this? Also, would it be sufficient to show that the integrand approaches $0$ on the interval?
– JacksonFitzsimmons
Nov 15 at 7:06
add a comment |
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
When $xin [0,1]$, $e^xle e$, by first mean value theorem for definite integrals,
begin{align*}
I_n&lemax_{xin[0,1]}{e^x}int_0^1x^{n}~mathrm dx\
&=frac{e}{n+1}to0.
end{align*}
Since $I_n>0$, the limit is $0$ by squeeze theorem.
Thanks, I never remember the squeeze theorem
– JacksonFitzsimmons
Nov 15 at 7:08
add a comment |
up vote
4
down vote
Not as slick as Tianlalu's method, but for $yin (0,,1)$ we have
$$
lim_{ntoinfty}int_0^y x^n e^x dx le
lim_{ntoinfty}y^nint_0^y e^x dx=0.
$$
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
I don't know what you are 'allowed' to use but you could use the lagrange remainer for the exponential function:
$$exp(-1)=sum_{k=0}^nfrac{(-1)^k}{k!}+frac{e^xi}{(n+1)!}(-1)^{n+1}$$
for some $-1<xi<0$. If you estimate $e^xi $ and replace the sum you get convergence to $0$.
New contributor
add a comment |
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
When $xin [0,1]$, $e^xle e$, by first mean value theorem for definite integrals,
begin{align*}
I_n&lemax_{xin[0,1]}{e^x}int_0^1x^{n}~mathrm dx\
&=frac{e}{n+1}to0.
end{align*}
Since $I_n>0$, the limit is $0$ by squeeze theorem.
Thanks, I never remember the squeeze theorem
– JacksonFitzsimmons
Nov 15 at 7:08
add a comment |
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
When $xin [0,1]$, $e^xle e$, by first mean value theorem for definite integrals,
begin{align*}
I_n&lemax_{xin[0,1]}{e^x}int_0^1x^{n}~mathrm dx\
&=frac{e}{n+1}to0.
end{align*}
Since $I_n>0$, the limit is $0$ by squeeze theorem.
Thanks, I never remember the squeeze theorem
– JacksonFitzsimmons
Nov 15 at 7:08
add a comment |
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
up vote
5
down vote
accepted
When $xin [0,1]$, $e^xle e$, by first mean value theorem for definite integrals,
begin{align*}
I_n&lemax_{xin[0,1]}{e^x}int_0^1x^{n}~mathrm dx\
&=frac{e}{n+1}to0.
end{align*}
Since $I_n>0$, the limit is $0$ by squeeze theorem.
When $xin [0,1]$, $e^xle e$, by first mean value theorem for definite integrals,
begin{align*}
I_n&lemax_{xin[0,1]}{e^x}int_0^1x^{n}~mathrm dx\
&=frac{e}{n+1}to0.
end{align*}
Since $I_n>0$, the limit is $0$ by squeeze theorem.
answered Nov 15 at 7:05
Tianlalu
2,589632
2,589632
Thanks, I never remember the squeeze theorem
– JacksonFitzsimmons
Nov 15 at 7:08
add a comment |
Thanks, I never remember the squeeze theorem
– JacksonFitzsimmons
Nov 15 at 7:08
Thanks, I never remember the squeeze theorem
– JacksonFitzsimmons
Nov 15 at 7:08
Thanks, I never remember the squeeze theorem
– JacksonFitzsimmons
Nov 15 at 7:08
add a comment |
up vote
4
down vote
Not as slick as Tianlalu's method, but for $yin (0,,1)$ we have
$$
lim_{ntoinfty}int_0^y x^n e^x dx le
lim_{ntoinfty}y^nint_0^y e^x dx=0.
$$
add a comment |
up vote
4
down vote
Not as slick as Tianlalu's method, but for $yin (0,,1)$ we have
$$
lim_{ntoinfty}int_0^y x^n e^x dx le
lim_{ntoinfty}y^nint_0^y e^x dx=0.
$$
add a comment |
up vote
4
down vote
up vote
4
down vote
Not as slick as Tianlalu's method, but for $yin (0,,1)$ we have
$$
lim_{ntoinfty}int_0^y x^n e^x dx le
lim_{ntoinfty}y^nint_0^y e^x dx=0.
$$
Not as slick as Tianlalu's method, but for $yin (0,,1)$ we have
$$
lim_{ntoinfty}int_0^y x^n e^x dx le
lim_{ntoinfty}y^nint_0^y e^x dx=0.
$$
edited Nov 15 at 7:31
Tianlalu
2,589632
2,589632
answered Nov 15 at 7:28
J.G.
18.2k21932
18.2k21932
add a comment |
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
I don't know what you are 'allowed' to use but you could use the lagrange remainer for the exponential function:
$$exp(-1)=sum_{k=0}^nfrac{(-1)^k}{k!}+frac{e^xi}{(n+1)!}(-1)^{n+1}$$
for some $-1<xi<0$. If you estimate $e^xi $ and replace the sum you get convergence to $0$.
New contributor
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
I don't know what you are 'allowed' to use but you could use the lagrange remainer for the exponential function:
$$exp(-1)=sum_{k=0}^nfrac{(-1)^k}{k!}+frac{e^xi}{(n+1)!}(-1)^{n+1}$$
for some $-1<xi<0$. If you estimate $e^xi $ and replace the sum you get convergence to $0$.
New contributor
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
I don't know what you are 'allowed' to use but you could use the lagrange remainer for the exponential function:
$$exp(-1)=sum_{k=0}^nfrac{(-1)^k}{k!}+frac{e^xi}{(n+1)!}(-1)^{n+1}$$
for some $-1<xi<0$. If you estimate $e^xi $ and replace the sum you get convergence to $0$.
New contributor
I don't know what you are 'allowed' to use but you could use the lagrange remainer for the exponential function:
$$exp(-1)=sum_{k=0}^nfrac{(-1)^k}{k!}+frac{e^xi}{(n+1)!}(-1)^{n+1}$$
for some $-1<xi<0$. If you estimate $e^xi $ and replace the sum you get convergence to $0$.
New contributor
New contributor
answered Nov 15 at 7:13
maxmilgram
4227
4227
New contributor
New contributor
add a comment |
add a comment |
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2999327%2fhow-to-compute-1n1n1-e-sum-k-0n-frac-1kk%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
3
$n!=Gamma(n+1)$ is differentiable.
– J.G.
Nov 15 at 7:01
1
perhaps some properties of the gamma function/complex analysis would be useful
– rubikscube09
Nov 15 at 7:04
I'm not very familiar with the gamma function, is there any other way? And if not, how could I use the gamma function to do this? Also, would it be sufficient to show that the integrand approaches $0$ on the interval?
– JacksonFitzsimmons
Nov 15 at 7:06