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$f(x) = 3cos(x) - 9sin(x)$



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    What is the equation? f(x)=0?
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  • Currently the way this is written, it doesn’t have anything that needs solving. What do you mean by “solve”?
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$f(x) = 3cos(x) - 9sin(x)$



Is there an easy way to solve $f(x) = 0$?



I'm drawing a blank. It seems impossible and the solution to the question I'm trying to do skips over showing the solving.



Thanks!










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  • Currently the way this is written, it doesn’t have anything that needs solving. What do you mean by “solve”?
    – DavidButlerUofA
    Nov 18 at 18:43










  • Yes, solving for x when f(x) = 0
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    Nov 18 at 18:43













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$f(x) = 3cos(x) - 9sin(x)$



Is there an easy way to solve $f(x) = 0$?



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$f(x) = 3cos(x) - 9sin(x)$



Is there an easy way to solve $f(x) = 0$?



I'm drawing a blank. It seems impossible and the solution to the question I'm trying to do skips over showing the solving.



Thanks!







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    What is the equation? f(x)=0?
    – gimusi
    Nov 18 at 18:42










  • Currently the way this is written, it doesn’t have anything that needs solving. What do you mean by “solve”?
    – DavidButlerUofA
    Nov 18 at 18:43










  • Yes, solving for x when f(x) = 0
    – M Do
    Nov 18 at 18:43














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    What is the equation? f(x)=0?
    – gimusi
    Nov 18 at 18:42










  • Currently the way this is written, it doesn’t have anything that needs solving. What do you mean by “solve”?
    – DavidButlerUofA
    Nov 18 at 18:43










  • Yes, solving for x when f(x) = 0
    – M Do
    Nov 18 at 18:43








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What is the equation? f(x)=0?
– gimusi
Nov 18 at 18:42




What is the equation? f(x)=0?
– gimusi
Nov 18 at 18:42












Currently the way this is written, it doesn’t have anything that needs solving. What do you mean by “solve”?
– DavidButlerUofA
Nov 18 at 18:43




Currently the way this is written, it doesn’t have anything that needs solving. What do you mean by “solve”?
– DavidButlerUofA
Nov 18 at 18:43












Yes, solving for x when f(x) = 0
– M Do
Nov 18 at 18:43




Yes, solving for x when f(x) = 0
– M Do
Nov 18 at 18:43










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$f(x)=0$ means $3 cos x = 9 sin x$.



Now if $cos x=0$, then $sin x=1$ or $-1$, so values of $x$ where $cos x=0$ are not a solution to the equation.
Divide by $9 cos x$ on both sides,



$tan x = 1/3$



Now you can probably compute $arctan(1/3)$ by a calculator and $npi + arctan(1/3)$ where $n$ is an integer is the complete set of solutions.






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    $$f(x)=3cos x - 9 sin x =0 implies 3cos x cdot (1-3 tan x)=0$$



    and $cos x=0$ is not a solution.






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    • I should also mention the interval is [0, 2pi]. So x = pi/2,
      – M Do
      Nov 18 at 18:46










    • $x=pi/2$ is not a solution. We need that $(1-3tan x)=0$.
      – gimusi
      Nov 18 at 18:48










    • Alright, so the solution is arctan(1/3) and however many solutions I want to include. But... arctan(1/3) is ~18.4, and the solutions are apparently .3217 and 3.464 .... How is this possible? The original equation is actually a derivative and I'm asked to find the points at which the derivative is zero in order to find local extrema.
      – M Do
      Nov 18 at 18:56










    • Your answer is in degrees. The solution is in radians.
      – KM101
      Nov 18 at 18:58










    • Wow. Of course, thanks.
      – M Do
      Nov 18 at 18:59


















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    $$f(x) = 3cos x-9sin x$$



    $$f(x) = 0 implies 0 = 3cos x-9sin x$$



    $$implies 9sin x = 3cos x implies tan x = frac{1}{3}$$



    $tan x$ takes positive values in the first and third quadrants.



    For the first quadrant,



    $$x = arctan frac{1}{3}$$



    For the third quadrant,



    $$x = pi+arctan frac{1}{3}$$



    That is the solution for $x in [0, 2pi]$. For a general solution, $tan x$ is periodic every $pi$ radians, so for all $n in mathbb{Z}$,



    $$x = pi n+arctan frac{1}{3}$$






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      $f(x)=0$ means $3 cos x = 9 sin x$.



      Now if $cos x=0$, then $sin x=1$ or $-1$, so values of $x$ where $cos x=0$ are not a solution to the equation.
      Divide by $9 cos x$ on both sides,



      $tan x = 1/3$



      Now you can probably compute $arctan(1/3)$ by a calculator and $npi + arctan(1/3)$ where $n$ is an integer is the complete set of solutions.






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        $f(x)=0$ means $3 cos x = 9 sin x$.



        Now if $cos x=0$, then $sin x=1$ or $-1$, so values of $x$ where $cos x=0$ are not a solution to the equation.
        Divide by $9 cos x$ on both sides,



        $tan x = 1/3$



        Now you can probably compute $arctan(1/3)$ by a calculator and $npi + arctan(1/3)$ where $n$ is an integer is the complete set of solutions.






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          $f(x)=0$ means $3 cos x = 9 sin x$.



          Now if $cos x=0$, then $sin x=1$ or $-1$, so values of $x$ where $cos x=0$ are not a solution to the equation.
          Divide by $9 cos x$ on both sides,



          $tan x = 1/3$



          Now you can probably compute $arctan(1/3)$ by a calculator and $npi + arctan(1/3)$ where $n$ is an integer is the complete set of solutions.






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          $f(x)=0$ means $3 cos x = 9 sin x$.



          Now if $cos x=0$, then $sin x=1$ or $-1$, so values of $x$ where $cos x=0$ are not a solution to the equation.
          Divide by $9 cos x$ on both sides,



          $tan x = 1/3$



          Now you can probably compute $arctan(1/3)$ by a calculator and $npi + arctan(1/3)$ where $n$ is an integer is the complete set of solutions.







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              HINT



              We have that



              $$f(x)=3cos x - 9 sin x =0 implies 3cos x cdot (1-3 tan x)=0$$



              and $cos x=0$ is not a solution.






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              • I should also mention the interval is [0, 2pi]. So x = pi/2,
                – M Do
                Nov 18 at 18:46










              • $x=pi/2$ is not a solution. We need that $(1-3tan x)=0$.
                – gimusi
                Nov 18 at 18:48










              • Alright, so the solution is arctan(1/3) and however many solutions I want to include. But... arctan(1/3) is ~18.4, and the solutions are apparently .3217 and 3.464 .... How is this possible? The original equation is actually a derivative and I'm asked to find the points at which the derivative is zero in order to find local extrema.
                – M Do
                Nov 18 at 18:56










              • Your answer is in degrees. The solution is in radians.
                – KM101
                Nov 18 at 18:58










              • Wow. Of course, thanks.
                – M Do
                Nov 18 at 18:59















              up vote
              0
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              HINT



              We have that



              $$f(x)=3cos x - 9 sin x =0 implies 3cos x cdot (1-3 tan x)=0$$



              and $cos x=0$ is not a solution.






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              • I should also mention the interval is [0, 2pi]. So x = pi/2,
                – M Do
                Nov 18 at 18:46










              • $x=pi/2$ is not a solution. We need that $(1-3tan x)=0$.
                – gimusi
                Nov 18 at 18:48










              • Alright, so the solution is arctan(1/3) and however many solutions I want to include. But... arctan(1/3) is ~18.4, and the solutions are apparently .3217 and 3.464 .... How is this possible? The original equation is actually a derivative and I'm asked to find the points at which the derivative is zero in order to find local extrema.
                – M Do
                Nov 18 at 18:56










              • Your answer is in degrees. The solution is in radians.
                – KM101
                Nov 18 at 18:58










              • Wow. Of course, thanks.
                – M Do
                Nov 18 at 18:59













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              HINT



              We have that



              $$f(x)=3cos x - 9 sin x =0 implies 3cos x cdot (1-3 tan x)=0$$



              and $cos x=0$ is not a solution.






              share|cite|improve this answer












              HINT



              We have that



              $$f(x)=3cos x - 9 sin x =0 implies 3cos x cdot (1-3 tan x)=0$$



              and $cos x=0$ is not a solution.







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              • I should also mention the interval is [0, 2pi]. So x = pi/2,
                – M Do
                Nov 18 at 18:46










              • $x=pi/2$ is not a solution. We need that $(1-3tan x)=0$.
                – gimusi
                Nov 18 at 18:48










              • Alright, so the solution is arctan(1/3) and however many solutions I want to include. But... arctan(1/3) is ~18.4, and the solutions are apparently .3217 and 3.464 .... How is this possible? The original equation is actually a derivative and I'm asked to find the points at which the derivative is zero in order to find local extrema.
                – M Do
                Nov 18 at 18:56










              • Your answer is in degrees. The solution is in radians.
                – KM101
                Nov 18 at 18:58










              • Wow. Of course, thanks.
                – M Do
                Nov 18 at 18:59


















              • I should also mention the interval is [0, 2pi]. So x = pi/2,
                – M Do
                Nov 18 at 18:46










              • $x=pi/2$ is not a solution. We need that $(1-3tan x)=0$.
                – gimusi
                Nov 18 at 18:48










              • Alright, so the solution is arctan(1/3) and however many solutions I want to include. But... arctan(1/3) is ~18.4, and the solutions are apparently .3217 and 3.464 .... How is this possible? The original equation is actually a derivative and I'm asked to find the points at which the derivative is zero in order to find local extrema.
                – M Do
                Nov 18 at 18:56










              • Your answer is in degrees. The solution is in radians.
                – KM101
                Nov 18 at 18:58










              • Wow. Of course, thanks.
                – M Do
                Nov 18 at 18:59
















              I should also mention the interval is [0, 2pi]. So x = pi/2,
              – M Do
              Nov 18 at 18:46




              I should also mention the interval is [0, 2pi]. So x = pi/2,
              – M Do
              Nov 18 at 18:46












              $x=pi/2$ is not a solution. We need that $(1-3tan x)=0$.
              – gimusi
              Nov 18 at 18:48




              $x=pi/2$ is not a solution. We need that $(1-3tan x)=0$.
              – gimusi
              Nov 18 at 18:48












              Alright, so the solution is arctan(1/3) and however many solutions I want to include. But... arctan(1/3) is ~18.4, and the solutions are apparently .3217 and 3.464 .... How is this possible? The original equation is actually a derivative and I'm asked to find the points at which the derivative is zero in order to find local extrema.
              – M Do
              Nov 18 at 18:56




              Alright, so the solution is arctan(1/3) and however many solutions I want to include. But... arctan(1/3) is ~18.4, and the solutions are apparently .3217 and 3.464 .... How is this possible? The original equation is actually a derivative and I'm asked to find the points at which the derivative is zero in order to find local extrema.
              – M Do
              Nov 18 at 18:56












              Your answer is in degrees. The solution is in radians.
              – KM101
              Nov 18 at 18:58




              Your answer is in degrees. The solution is in radians.
              – KM101
              Nov 18 at 18:58












              Wow. Of course, thanks.
              – M Do
              Nov 18 at 18:59




              Wow. Of course, thanks.
              – M Do
              Nov 18 at 18:59










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              $$f(x) = 3cos x-9sin x$$



              $$f(x) = 0 implies 0 = 3cos x-9sin x$$



              $$implies 9sin x = 3cos x implies tan x = frac{1}{3}$$



              $tan x$ takes positive values in the first and third quadrants.



              For the first quadrant,



              $$x = arctan frac{1}{3}$$



              For the third quadrant,



              $$x = pi+arctan frac{1}{3}$$



              That is the solution for $x in [0, 2pi]$. For a general solution, $tan x$ is periodic every $pi$ radians, so for all $n in mathbb{Z}$,



              $$x = pi n+arctan frac{1}{3}$$






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                $$f(x) = 3cos x-9sin x$$



                $$f(x) = 0 implies 0 = 3cos x-9sin x$$



                $$implies 9sin x = 3cos x implies tan x = frac{1}{3}$$



                $tan x$ takes positive values in the first and third quadrants.



                For the first quadrant,



                $$x = arctan frac{1}{3}$$



                For the third quadrant,



                $$x = pi+arctan frac{1}{3}$$



                That is the solution for $x in [0, 2pi]$. For a general solution, $tan x$ is periodic every $pi$ radians, so for all $n in mathbb{Z}$,



                $$x = pi n+arctan frac{1}{3}$$






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                  $$f(x) = 3cos x-9sin x$$



                  $$f(x) = 0 implies 0 = 3cos x-9sin x$$



                  $$implies 9sin x = 3cos x implies tan x = frac{1}{3}$$



                  $tan x$ takes positive values in the first and third quadrants.



                  For the first quadrant,



                  $$x = arctan frac{1}{3}$$



                  For the third quadrant,



                  $$x = pi+arctan frac{1}{3}$$



                  That is the solution for $x in [0, 2pi]$. For a general solution, $tan x$ is periodic every $pi$ radians, so for all $n in mathbb{Z}$,



                  $$x = pi n+arctan frac{1}{3}$$






                  share|cite|improve this answer












                  $$f(x) = 3cos x-9sin x$$



                  $$f(x) = 0 implies 0 = 3cos x-9sin x$$



                  $$implies 9sin x = 3cos x implies tan x = frac{1}{3}$$



                  $tan x$ takes positive values in the first and third quadrants.



                  For the first quadrant,



                  $$x = arctan frac{1}{3}$$



                  For the third quadrant,



                  $$x = pi+arctan frac{1}{3}$$



                  That is the solution for $x in [0, 2pi]$. For a general solution, $tan x$ is periodic every $pi$ radians, so for all $n in mathbb{Z}$,



                  $$x = pi n+arctan frac{1}{3}$$







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