Lebesgue measure: $limlimits_{n to infty} n cdot m(S_n)=0$ where $S_n={x in E mid |f(x)|geq n} $












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Im looking to show that if $f$ is a Lebesgue integrable function on $E$ and if $$S_n={x in E mid |f(x)|geq n} $$ Then $$lim_{n to infty} n cdot m(S_n)=0 $$



We proved the Dominated convergence theorem, continuity from above, continuity from below, and a few other basic theorems from measure theory and Lebesgue theory. I'm not sure how to approach this type of problem since its not clear to be why this is important or how it relates to these topics.










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Im looking to show that if $f$ is a Lebesgue integrable function on $E$ and if $$S_n={x in E mid |f(x)|geq n} $$ Then $$lim_{n to infty} n cdot m(S_n)=0 $$



We proved the Dominated convergence theorem, continuity from above, continuity from below, and a few other basic theorems from measure theory and Lebesgue theory. I'm not sure how to approach this type of problem since its not clear to be why this is important or how it relates to these topics.










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Im looking to show that if $f$ is a Lebesgue integrable function on $E$ and if $$S_n={x in E mid |f(x)|geq n} $$ Then $$lim_{n to infty} n cdot m(S_n)=0 $$



We proved the Dominated convergence theorem, continuity from above, continuity from below, and a few other basic theorems from measure theory and Lebesgue theory. I'm not sure how to approach this type of problem since its not clear to be why this is important or how it relates to these topics.










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Im looking to show that if $f$ is a Lebesgue integrable function on $E$ and if $$S_n={x in E mid |f(x)|geq n} $$ Then $$lim_{n to infty} n cdot m(S_n)=0 $$



We proved the Dominated convergence theorem, continuity from above, continuity from below, and a few other basic theorems from measure theory and Lebesgue theory. I'm not sure how to approach this type of problem since its not clear to be why this is important or how it relates to these topics.







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  • Searching in Approach0 gives a few questions which seem similar: Lebesgue integrable function and limit: $lim_{ntoinfty} ncdot m(A_n)=0$ or Evaluate the limit of $lim_{n to infty}n.mu(X_n)$.
    – Martin Sleziak
    Nov 27 at 12:27


















  • Searching in Approach0 gives a few questions which seem similar: Lebesgue integrable function and limit: $lim_{ntoinfty} ncdot m(A_n)=0$ or Evaluate the limit of $lim_{n to infty}n.mu(X_n)$.
    – Martin Sleziak
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Searching in Approach0 gives a few questions which seem similar: Lebesgue integrable function and limit: $lim_{ntoinfty} ncdot m(A_n)=0$ or Evaluate the limit of $lim_{n to infty}n.mu(X_n)$.
– Martin Sleziak
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Searching in Approach0 gives a few questions which seem similar: Lebesgue integrable function and limit: $lim_{ntoinfty} ncdot m(A_n)=0$ or Evaluate the limit of $lim_{n to infty}n.mu(X_n)$.
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Observe that
$$begin{aligned}
int_E |f| &= int_{S_n} |f| + int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
&geq int_{S_n} n + int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
&= ncdot m(S_n) + int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
end{aligned}$$

As $int_E |f|$ is finite, so is $int_{E setminus S_n} |f|$, so we can subtract the latter from both sides to obtain
$$begin{aligned}
ncdot m(S_n) &leq int_E |f| - int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
&= int_{S_n} |f| \
&= int_E |f| chi_{S_n} \
end{aligned}$$

where $chi_{S_n}$ is the characteristic function of $S_n$. The integrand on the RHS is dominated by the integrable function $|f|$ and converges a.e. to zero, hence by the dominated convergence theorem we have
$$begin{aligned}
lim_{n to infty}ncdot m(S_n) &leq lim_{n to infty}int_E |f| chi_{S_n} \
&= int_E lim_{n to infty} |f| chi_{S_n} \
&= 0
end{aligned}$$

As the LHS is nonnegative, this gives us the desired result.






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    Note that $n.m(S_n)=int_{S_n}nleqint_{S_n}|f|$ for every $n$ and $lim_{nto+infty}int_{S_n}|f|=0$ because $f$ is integrable. So the proposition follows.






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    • What theorem do we need to know to show that $lim_{n to infty} int_{S_n} |f|=0$? Is this because the measure of the $S_n$ is going to zero?
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      Lebesgue's Dominated Convergence Theorem: Note that $int_{S_n}|f|=int_E|f|chi_{S_n}$, $|f|chi_{S_n}$ converges to $0$ a.e. and it is dominated by $|f|$, which is integrable by hypothesis.
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    Observe that
    $$begin{aligned}
    int_E |f| &= int_{S_n} |f| + int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
    &geq int_{S_n} n + int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
    &= ncdot m(S_n) + int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
    end{aligned}$$

    As $int_E |f|$ is finite, so is $int_{E setminus S_n} |f|$, so we can subtract the latter from both sides to obtain
    $$begin{aligned}
    ncdot m(S_n) &leq int_E |f| - int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
    &= int_{S_n} |f| \
    &= int_E |f| chi_{S_n} \
    end{aligned}$$

    where $chi_{S_n}$ is the characteristic function of $S_n$. The integrand on the RHS is dominated by the integrable function $|f|$ and converges a.e. to zero, hence by the dominated convergence theorem we have
    $$begin{aligned}
    lim_{n to infty}ncdot m(S_n) &leq lim_{n to infty}int_E |f| chi_{S_n} \
    &= int_E lim_{n to infty} |f| chi_{S_n} \
    &= 0
    end{aligned}$$

    As the LHS is nonnegative, this gives us the desired result.






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      Observe that
      $$begin{aligned}
      int_E |f| &= int_{S_n} |f| + int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
      &geq int_{S_n} n + int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
      &= ncdot m(S_n) + int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
      end{aligned}$$

      As $int_E |f|$ is finite, so is $int_{E setminus S_n} |f|$, so we can subtract the latter from both sides to obtain
      $$begin{aligned}
      ncdot m(S_n) &leq int_E |f| - int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
      &= int_{S_n} |f| \
      &= int_E |f| chi_{S_n} \
      end{aligned}$$

      where $chi_{S_n}$ is the characteristic function of $S_n$. The integrand on the RHS is dominated by the integrable function $|f|$ and converges a.e. to zero, hence by the dominated convergence theorem we have
      $$begin{aligned}
      lim_{n to infty}ncdot m(S_n) &leq lim_{n to infty}int_E |f| chi_{S_n} \
      &= int_E lim_{n to infty} |f| chi_{S_n} \
      &= 0
      end{aligned}$$

      As the LHS is nonnegative, this gives us the desired result.






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        Observe that
        $$begin{aligned}
        int_E |f| &= int_{S_n} |f| + int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
        &geq int_{S_n} n + int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
        &= ncdot m(S_n) + int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
        end{aligned}$$

        As $int_E |f|$ is finite, so is $int_{E setminus S_n} |f|$, so we can subtract the latter from both sides to obtain
        $$begin{aligned}
        ncdot m(S_n) &leq int_E |f| - int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
        &= int_{S_n} |f| \
        &= int_E |f| chi_{S_n} \
        end{aligned}$$

        where $chi_{S_n}$ is the characteristic function of $S_n$. The integrand on the RHS is dominated by the integrable function $|f|$ and converges a.e. to zero, hence by the dominated convergence theorem we have
        $$begin{aligned}
        lim_{n to infty}ncdot m(S_n) &leq lim_{n to infty}int_E |f| chi_{S_n} \
        &= int_E lim_{n to infty} |f| chi_{S_n} \
        &= 0
        end{aligned}$$

        As the LHS is nonnegative, this gives us the desired result.






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        Observe that
        $$begin{aligned}
        int_E |f| &= int_{S_n} |f| + int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
        &geq int_{S_n} n + int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
        &= ncdot m(S_n) + int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
        end{aligned}$$

        As $int_E |f|$ is finite, so is $int_{E setminus S_n} |f|$, so we can subtract the latter from both sides to obtain
        $$begin{aligned}
        ncdot m(S_n) &leq int_E |f| - int_{E setminus S_n} |f| \
        &= int_{S_n} |f| \
        &= int_E |f| chi_{S_n} \
        end{aligned}$$

        where $chi_{S_n}$ is the characteristic function of $S_n$. The integrand on the RHS is dominated by the integrable function $|f|$ and converges a.e. to zero, hence by the dominated convergence theorem we have
        $$begin{aligned}
        lim_{n to infty}ncdot m(S_n) &leq lim_{n to infty}int_E |f| chi_{S_n} \
        &= int_E lim_{n to infty} |f| chi_{S_n} \
        &= 0
        end{aligned}$$

        As the LHS is nonnegative, this gives us the desired result.







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            Note that $n.m(S_n)=int_{S_n}nleqint_{S_n}|f|$ for every $n$ and $lim_{nto+infty}int_{S_n}|f|=0$ because $f$ is integrable. So the proposition follows.






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            • What theorem do we need to know to show that $lim_{n to infty} int_{S_n} |f|=0$? Is this because the measure of the $S_n$ is going to zero?
              – ICanMakeYouHateME
              Nov 27 at 6:18








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              Lebesgue's Dominated Convergence Theorem: Note that $int_{S_n}|f|=int_E|f|chi_{S_n}$, $|f|chi_{S_n}$ converges to $0$ a.e. and it is dominated by $|f|$, which is integrable by hypothesis.
              – Dante Grevino
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            Note that $n.m(S_n)=int_{S_n}nleqint_{S_n}|f|$ for every $n$ and $lim_{nto+infty}int_{S_n}|f|=0$ because $f$ is integrable. So the proposition follows.






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            • What theorem do we need to know to show that $lim_{n to infty} int_{S_n} |f|=0$? Is this because the measure of the $S_n$ is going to zero?
              – ICanMakeYouHateME
              Nov 27 at 6:18








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              Lebesgue's Dominated Convergence Theorem: Note that $int_{S_n}|f|=int_E|f|chi_{S_n}$, $|f|chi_{S_n}$ converges to $0$ a.e. and it is dominated by $|f|$, which is integrable by hypothesis.
              – Dante Grevino
              Nov 27 at 6:21














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            Note that $n.m(S_n)=int_{S_n}nleqint_{S_n}|f|$ for every $n$ and $lim_{nto+infty}int_{S_n}|f|=0$ because $f$ is integrable. So the proposition follows.






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            Note that $n.m(S_n)=int_{S_n}nleqint_{S_n}|f|$ for every $n$ and $lim_{nto+infty}int_{S_n}|f|=0$ because $f$ is integrable. So the proposition follows.







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            • What theorem do we need to know to show that $lim_{n to infty} int_{S_n} |f|=0$? Is this because the measure of the $S_n$ is going to zero?
              – ICanMakeYouHateME
              Nov 27 at 6:18








            • 1




              Lebesgue's Dominated Convergence Theorem: Note that $int_{S_n}|f|=int_E|f|chi_{S_n}$, $|f|chi_{S_n}$ converges to $0$ a.e. and it is dominated by $|f|$, which is integrable by hypothesis.
              – Dante Grevino
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            • What theorem do we need to know to show that $lim_{n to infty} int_{S_n} |f|=0$? Is this because the measure of the $S_n$ is going to zero?
              – ICanMakeYouHateME
              Nov 27 at 6:18








            • 1




              Lebesgue's Dominated Convergence Theorem: Note that $int_{S_n}|f|=int_E|f|chi_{S_n}$, $|f|chi_{S_n}$ converges to $0$ a.e. and it is dominated by $|f|$, which is integrable by hypothesis.
              – Dante Grevino
              Nov 27 at 6:21
















            What theorem do we need to know to show that $lim_{n to infty} int_{S_n} |f|=0$? Is this because the measure of the $S_n$ is going to zero?
            – ICanMakeYouHateME
            Nov 27 at 6:18






            What theorem do we need to know to show that $lim_{n to infty} int_{S_n} |f|=0$? Is this because the measure of the $S_n$ is going to zero?
            – ICanMakeYouHateME
            Nov 27 at 6:18






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            Lebesgue's Dominated Convergence Theorem: Note that $int_{S_n}|f|=int_E|f|chi_{S_n}$, $|f|chi_{S_n}$ converges to $0$ a.e. and it is dominated by $|f|$, which is integrable by hypothesis.
            – Dante Grevino
            Nov 27 at 6:21




            Lebesgue's Dominated Convergence Theorem: Note that $int_{S_n}|f|=int_E|f|chi_{S_n}$, $|f|chi_{S_n}$ converges to $0$ a.e. and it is dominated by $|f|$, which is integrable by hypothesis.
            – Dante Grevino
            Nov 27 at 6:21


















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