Defragmenting using Defraggler made the fragmentation worse and increases “used space”
I decided to do a full defragmentation of my C: drive for the first time this day. The defragmenter I use is Defraggler by Piriform. When I analyzed the drive, it detected 13% fragmentation. After that, I clicked the 'Defrag' button to start the defragmentation processes.
I thought it was going fine. At about 50%, it was 10% fragmented now. But then I noticed that the used space increased from 86.3 GB to 103.2 GB! So I stopped the defragmentation. This was surprising.
After stopping it, I decided to analyze the drive again to see if the fragmentation when low. At my surprise, it went HIGH! From that 10% fragmentation, it increased up to 37% fragmented! I was shocked.
I went to Windows' built-in Disk Defragmenter to see if their analysis were the same. At my surprise again, it said 2% fragmented! I was shocked again.
I don't even know which one is accurate now. Defraggler or Disk Defragmenter?!? I don't know which one is the problem. Is it Defraggler or Windows?
Why did defragmenting make the drive more fragmented? Why did the used space increase? Should I try using a different defragmenter? Should I uninstall Defraggler?
Info:
OS: Windows 8.1, 64-bit
Defraggler Version: v 2.19.982
C: Drive Capacity: 185 GB
hard-drive windows-8.1 disk-space defragment
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I decided to do a full defragmentation of my C: drive for the first time this day. The defragmenter I use is Defraggler by Piriform. When I analyzed the drive, it detected 13% fragmentation. After that, I clicked the 'Defrag' button to start the defragmentation processes.
I thought it was going fine. At about 50%, it was 10% fragmented now. But then I noticed that the used space increased from 86.3 GB to 103.2 GB! So I stopped the defragmentation. This was surprising.
After stopping it, I decided to analyze the drive again to see if the fragmentation when low. At my surprise, it went HIGH! From that 10% fragmentation, it increased up to 37% fragmented! I was shocked.
I went to Windows' built-in Disk Defragmenter to see if their analysis were the same. At my surprise again, it said 2% fragmented! I was shocked again.
I don't even know which one is accurate now. Defraggler or Disk Defragmenter?!? I don't know which one is the problem. Is it Defraggler or Windows?
Why did defragmenting make the drive more fragmented? Why did the used space increase? Should I try using a different defragmenter? Should I uninstall Defraggler?
Info:
OS: Windows 8.1, 64-bit
Defraggler Version: v 2.19.982
C: Drive Capacity: 185 GB
hard-drive windows-8.1 disk-space defragment
asked Jun 19 '15 at 15:28
Ronn ParciaRonn Parcia
24136
It is already written support.piriform.com/hc/en-us/articles/… To effectivly defragment a system partition you really need to do so offline (running operating system locked files). Offline means to use a seperate disk to boot from, or to use a boot-time defragger. otherwise your just about as well off with the windows one doing what it does. for that partition. For the rest of your disks or partitions that are not loaded with locked files it would be fine. You should also have a backup of the entirety of any partition first.
– Psycogeek
Jun 19 '15 at 15:40
Why use an external defragmenter on Windows 8.1? There is a task to defragment all drives in Windows 8, and if you let it run, there should be less than 1% fragmentation.
– DrMoishe Pippik
Jun 19 '15 at 15:46
@Psycogeek Sorry, but I really don't understand... I'm not an experienced user. What do you mean by using a separate disk to boot from or boot-time defragger?
– Ronn Parcia
Jun 19 '15 at 16:15
@DrMoishePippik Some people say that Defraggler does a better job than Windows' built-in Disk Defragmenter...
– Ronn Parcia
Jun 19 '15 at 16:16
The files that are in use in an operating system, are the files that you have a tendancy to use :-) If you have an offline capability to defrag then the whole partition can then be defragged, including the ones in-use. The percentage of these files is not large, but they also are not going to be moving, to get out of the way to complete things. i.stack.imgur.com/qMld9.gif this pic shows the locked clusters as red. and the Partition is mostly OS (not user files), but a mostly trimmed os that has many things turned off.
– Psycogeek
Jun 19 '15 at 16:46
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I decided to do a full defragmentation of my C: drive for the first time this day. The defragmenter I use is Defraggler by Piriform. When I analyzed the drive, it detected 13% fragmentation. After that, I clicked the 'Defrag' button to start the defragmentation processes.
I thought it was going fine. At about 50%, it was 10% fragmented now. But then I noticed that the used space increased from 86.3 GB to 103.2 GB! So I stopped the defragmentation. This was surprising.
After stopping it, I decided to analyze the drive again to see if the fragmentation when low. At my surprise, it went HIGH! From that 10% fragmentation, it increased up to 37% fragmented! I was shocked.
I went to Windows' built-in Disk Defragmenter to see if their analysis were the same. At my surprise again, it said 2% fragmented! I was shocked again.
I don't even know which one is accurate now. Defraggler or Disk Defragmenter?!? I don't know which one is the problem. Is it Defraggler or Windows?
Why did defragmenting make the drive more fragmented? Why did the used space increase? Should I try using a different defragmenter? Should I uninstall Defraggler?
Info:
OS: Windows 8.1, 64-bit
Defraggler Version: v 2.19.982
C: Drive Capacity: 185 GB
hard-drive windows-8.1 disk-space defragment
asked Jun 19 '15 at 15:28
Ronn ParciaRonn Parcia
24136
I decided to do a full defragmentation of my C: drive for the first time this day. The defragmenter I use is Defraggler by Piriform. When I analyzed the drive, it detected 13% fragmentation. After that, I clicked the 'Defrag' button to start the defragmentation processes.
I thought it was going fine. At about 50%, it was 10% fragmented now. But then I noticed that the used space increased from 86.3 GB to 103.2 GB! So I stopped the defragmentation. This was surprising.
After stopping it, I decided to analyze the drive again to see if the fragmentation when low. At my surprise, it went HIGH! From that 10% fragmentation, it increased up to 37% fragmented! I was shocked.
I went to Windows' built-in Disk Defragmenter to see if their analysis were the same. At my surprise again, it said 2% fragmented! I was shocked again.
I don't even know which one is accurate now. Defraggler or Disk Defragmenter?!? I don't know which one is the problem. Is it Defraggler or Windows?
Why did defragmenting make the drive more fragmented? Why did the used space increase? Should I try using a different defragmenter? Should I uninstall Defraggler?
Info:
OS: Windows 8.1, 64-bit
Defraggler Version: v 2.19.982
C: Drive Capacity: 185 GB
hard-drive windows-8.1 disk-space defragment
hard-drive windows-8.1 disk-space defragment
asked Jun 19 '15 at 15:28
Ronn ParciaRonn Parcia
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asked Jun 19 '15 at 15:28
Ronn ParciaRonn Parcia
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edited Jun 19 '15 at 16:08
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asked Jun 19 '15 at 15:28
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asked Jun 19 '15 at 15:28
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asked Jun 19 '15 at 15:28
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It is already written support.piriform.com/hc/en-us/articles/… To effectivly defragment a system partition you really need to do so offline (running operating system locked files). Offline means to use a seperate disk to boot from, or to use a boot-time defragger. otherwise your just about as well off with the windows one doing what it does. for that partition. For the rest of your disks or partitions that are not loaded with locked files it would be fine. You should also have a backup of the entirety of any partition first.
– Psycogeek
Jun 19 '15 at 15:40
Why use an external defragmenter on Windows 8.1? There is a task to defragment all drives in Windows 8, and if you let it run, there should be less than 1% fragmentation.
– DrMoishe Pippik
Jun 19 '15 at 15:46
@Psycogeek Sorry, but I really don't understand... I'm not an experienced user. What do you mean by using a separate disk to boot from or boot-time defragger?
– Ronn Parcia
Jun 19 '15 at 16:15
@DrMoishePippik Some people say that Defraggler does a better job than Windows' built-in Disk Defragmenter...
– Ronn Parcia
Jun 19 '15 at 16:16
The files that are in use in an operating system, are the files that you have a tendancy to use :-) If you have an offline capability to defrag then the whole partition can then be defragged, including the ones in-use. The percentage of these files is not large, but they also are not going to be moving, to get out of the way to complete things. i.stack.imgur.com/qMld9.gif this pic shows the locked clusters as red. and the Partition is mostly OS (not user files), but a mostly trimmed os that has many things turned off.
– Psycogeek
Jun 19 '15 at 16:46
|
show 5 more comments
It is already written support.piriform.com/hc/en-us/articles/… To effectivly defragment a system partition you really need to do so offline (running operating system locked files). Offline means to use a seperate disk to boot from, or to use a boot-time defragger. otherwise your just about as well off with the windows one doing what it does. for that partition. For the rest of your disks or partitions that are not loaded with locked files it would be fine. You should also have a backup of the entirety of any partition first.
– Psycogeek
Jun 19 '15 at 15:40
Why use an external defragmenter on Windows 8.1? There is a task to defragment all drives in Windows 8, and if you let it run, there should be less than 1% fragmentation.
– DrMoishe Pippik
Jun 19 '15 at 15:46
@Psycogeek Sorry, but I really don't understand... I'm not an experienced user. What do you mean by using a separate disk to boot from or boot-time defragger?
– Ronn Parcia
Jun 19 '15 at 16:15
@DrMoishePippik Some people say that Defraggler does a better job than Windows' built-in Disk Defragmenter...
– Ronn Parcia
Jun 19 '15 at 16:16
The files that are in use in an operating system, are the files that you have a tendancy to use :-) If you have an offline capability to defrag then the whole partition can then be defragged, including the ones in-use. The percentage of these files is not large, but they also are not going to be moving, to get out of the way to complete things. i.stack.imgur.com/qMld9.gif this pic shows the locked clusters as red. and the Partition is mostly OS (not user files), but a mostly trimmed os that has many things turned off.
– Psycogeek
Jun 19 '15 at 16:46
It is already written support.piriform.com/hc/en-us/articles/… To effectivly defragment a system partition you really need to do so offline (running operating system locked files). Offline means to use a seperate disk to boot from, or to use a boot-time defragger. otherwise your just about as well off with the windows one doing what it does. for that partition. For the rest of your disks or partitions that are not loaded with locked files it would be fine. You should also have a backup of the entirety of any partition first.
– Psycogeek
Jun 19 '15 at 15:40
It is already written support.piriform.com/hc/en-us/articles/… To effectivly defragment a system partition you really need to do so offline (running operating system locked files). Offline means to use a seperate disk to boot from, or to use a boot-time defragger. otherwise your just about as well off with the windows one doing what it does. for that partition. For the rest of your disks or partitions that are not loaded with locked files it would be fine. You should also have a backup of the entirety of any partition first.
– Psycogeek
Jun 19 '15 at 15:40
Why use an external defragmenter on Windows 8.1? There is a task to defragment all drives in Windows 8, and if you let it run, there should be less than 1% fragmentation.
– DrMoishe Pippik
Jun 19 '15 at 15:46
Why use an external defragmenter on Windows 8.1? There is a task to defragment all drives in Windows 8, and if you let it run, there should be less than 1% fragmentation.
– DrMoishe Pippik
Jun 19 '15 at 15:46
@Psycogeek Sorry, but I really don't understand... I'm not an experienced user. What do you mean by using a separate disk to boot from or boot-time defragger?
– Ronn Parcia
Jun 19 '15 at 16:15
@Psycogeek Sorry, but I really don't understand... I'm not an experienced user. What do you mean by using a separate disk to boot from or boot-time defragger?
– Ronn Parcia
Jun 19 '15 at 16:15
@DrMoishePippik Some people say that Defraggler does a better job than Windows' built-in Disk Defragmenter...
– Ronn Parcia
Jun 19 '15 at 16:16
@DrMoishePippik Some people say that Defraggler does a better job than Windows' built-in Disk Defragmenter...
– Ronn Parcia
Jun 19 '15 at 16:16
The files that are in use in an operating system, are the files that you have a tendancy to use :-) If you have an offline capability to defrag then the whole partition can then be defragged, including the ones in-use. The percentage of these files is not large, but they also are not going to be moving, to get out of the way to complete things. i.stack.imgur.com/qMld9.gif this pic shows the locked clusters as red. and the Partition is mostly OS (not user files), but a mostly trimmed os that has many things turned off.
– Psycogeek
Jun 19 '15 at 16:46
The files that are in use in an operating system, are the files that you have a tendancy to use :-) If you have an offline capability to defrag then the whole partition can then be defragged, including the ones in-use. The percentage of these files is not large, but they also are not going to be moving, to get out of the way to complete things. i.stack.imgur.com/qMld9.gif this pic shows the locked clusters as red. and the Partition is mostly OS (not user files), but a mostly trimmed os that has many things turned off.
– Psycogeek
Jun 19 '15 at 16:46
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When you stopped Defraggler, it might have left some buffer data behind while it was trying to defragment a very large file.
When you analyzed the drive again with Defraggler, it counted the buffer data as part of the drive as well as all of the fragmented free space (you probably ended up with less contiguous free space after the partial defrag since it was prematurely canceled, so you didn't let Defraggler perform any of its proprietary optimizations).
The best way to resolve the issue is just to run a full defrag again (preferably on boot time), this time without any interruptions.
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When you stopped Defraggler, it might have left some buffer data behind while it was trying to defragment a very large file.
When you analyzed the drive again with Defraggler, it counted the buffer data as part of the drive as well as all of the fragmented free space (you probably ended up with less contiguous free space after the partial defrag since it was prematurely canceled, so you didn't let Defraggler perform any of its proprietary optimizations).
The best way to resolve the issue is just to run a full defrag again (preferably on boot time), this time without any interruptions.
answered Jun 19 '15 at 23:58
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When you stopped Defraggler, it might have left some buffer data behind while it was trying to defragment a very large file.
When you analyzed the drive again with Defraggler, it counted the buffer data as part of the drive as well as all of the fragmented free space (you probably ended up with less contiguous free space after the partial defrag since it was prematurely canceled, so you didn't let Defraggler perform any of its proprietary optimizations).
The best way to resolve the issue is just to run a full defrag again (preferably on boot time), this time without any interruptions.
answered Jun 19 '15 at 23:58
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When you stopped Defraggler, it might have left some buffer data behind while it was trying to defragment a very large file.
When you analyzed the drive again with Defraggler, it counted the buffer data as part of the drive as well as all of the fragmented free space (you probably ended up with less contiguous free space after the partial defrag since it was prematurely canceled, so you didn't let Defraggler perform any of its proprietary optimizations).
The best way to resolve the issue is just to run a full defrag again (preferably on boot time), this time without any interruptions.
answered Jun 19 '15 at 23:58
oldmud0oldmud0
3,08631536
When you stopped Defraggler, it might have left some buffer data behind while it was trying to defragment a very large file.
When you analyzed the drive again with Defraggler, it counted the buffer data as part of the drive as well as all of the fragmented free space (you probably ended up with less contiguous free space after the partial defrag since it was prematurely canceled, so you didn't let Defraggler perform any of its proprietary optimizations).
The best way to resolve the issue is just to run a full defrag again (preferably on boot time), this time without any interruptions.
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It is already written support.piriform.com/hc/en-us/articles/… To effectivly defragment a system partition you really need to do so offline (running operating system locked files). Offline means to use a seperate disk to boot from, or to use a boot-time defragger. otherwise your just about as well off with the windows one doing what it does. for that partition. For the rest of your disks or partitions that are not loaded with locked files it would be fine. You should also have a backup of the entirety of any partition first.
– Psycogeek
Jun 19 '15 at 15:40
Why use an external defragmenter on Windows 8.1? There is a task to defragment all drives in Windows 8, and if you let it run, there should be less than 1% fragmentation.
– DrMoishe Pippik
Jun 19 '15 at 15:46
@Psycogeek Sorry, but I really don't understand... I'm not an experienced user. What do you mean by using a separate disk to boot from or boot-time defragger?
– Ronn Parcia
Jun 19 '15 at 16:15
@DrMoishePippik Some people say that Defraggler does a better job than Windows' built-in Disk Defragmenter...
– Ronn Parcia
Jun 19 '15 at 16:16
The files that are in use in an operating system, are the files that you have a tendancy to use :-) If you have an offline capability to defrag then the whole partition can then be defragged, including the ones in-use. The percentage of these files is not large, but they also are not going to be moving, to get out of the way to complete things. i.stack.imgur.com/qMld9.gif this pic shows the locked clusters as red. and the Partition is mostly OS (not user files), but a mostly trimmed os that has many things turned off.
– Psycogeek
Jun 19 '15 at 16:46