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I atempted to make a chicken stock that I can keep in my fridge for a few days. After roasting a couple chicken breasts, carrot, onion, garlic, mushroom stems for 45 minutes I put all of that in a pan, covered with water and set to simmer for a couple hours.



Aftee checking it about half way through, I noticed that all the water had gone, absorbed by the chicken and veg. The thing was I tried making this last week, and I think I added too much water resulting in a fairly tasteless stock, so I made sure I just added enough to cover.



Totally didn't expect to see all of the water gone! I'm now left with a bowl of pretty dry chicken and veg. Can I reuse them? Any ideas where I went wrong and any tips?



Much appreciated!



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  • Did you cover the pan with a lid?

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  • Yeah the pan was covered.

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    You can try re-hydrating it, but I did this once and the scorched chicken made it not worth saving.

    – Joe
    Jan 8 at 22:43
















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I atempted to make a chicken stock that I can keep in my fridge for a few days. After roasting a couple chicken breasts, carrot, onion, garlic, mushroom stems for 45 minutes I put all of that in a pan, covered with water and set to simmer for a couple hours.



Aftee checking it about half way through, I noticed that all the water had gone, absorbed by the chicken and veg. The thing was I tried making this last week, and I think I added too much water resulting in a fairly tasteless stock, so I made sure I just added enough to cover.



Totally didn't expect to see all of the water gone! I'm now left with a bowl of pretty dry chicken and veg. Can I reuse them? Any ideas where I went wrong and any tips?



Much appreciated!



CookingRookie.










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  • Did you cover the pan with a lid?

    – brhans
    Jan 8 at 21:28











  • Yeah the pan was covered.

    – CookingRookie87
    Jan 8 at 21:33








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    You can try re-hydrating it, but I did this once and the scorched chicken made it not worth saving.

    – Joe
    Jan 8 at 22:43














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I atempted to make a chicken stock that I can keep in my fridge for a few days. After roasting a couple chicken breasts, carrot, onion, garlic, mushroom stems for 45 minutes I put all of that in a pan, covered with water and set to simmer for a couple hours.



Aftee checking it about half way through, I noticed that all the water had gone, absorbed by the chicken and veg. The thing was I tried making this last week, and I think I added too much water resulting in a fairly tasteless stock, so I made sure I just added enough to cover.



Totally didn't expect to see all of the water gone! I'm now left with a bowl of pretty dry chicken and veg. Can I reuse them? Any ideas where I went wrong and any tips?



Much appreciated!



CookingRookie.










share|improve this question














I atempted to make a chicken stock that I can keep in my fridge for a few days. After roasting a couple chicken breasts, carrot, onion, garlic, mushroom stems for 45 minutes I put all of that in a pan, covered with water and set to simmer for a couple hours.



Aftee checking it about half way through, I noticed that all the water had gone, absorbed by the chicken and veg. The thing was I tried making this last week, and I think I added too much water resulting in a fairly tasteless stock, so I made sure I just added enough to cover.



Totally didn't expect to see all of the water gone! I'm now left with a bowl of pretty dry chicken and veg. Can I reuse them? Any ideas where I went wrong and any tips?



Much appreciated!



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  • Did you cover the pan with a lid?

    – brhans
    Jan 8 at 21:28











  • Yeah the pan was covered.

    – CookingRookie87
    Jan 8 at 21:33








  • 1





    You can try re-hydrating it, but I did this once and the scorched chicken made it not worth saving.

    – Joe
    Jan 8 at 22:43



















  • Did you cover the pan with a lid?

    – brhans
    Jan 8 at 21:28











  • Yeah the pan was covered.

    – CookingRookie87
    Jan 8 at 21:33








  • 1





    You can try re-hydrating it, but I did this once and the scorched chicken made it not worth saving.

    – Joe
    Jan 8 at 22:43

















Did you cover the pan with a lid?

– brhans
Jan 8 at 21:28





Did you cover the pan with a lid?

– brhans
Jan 8 at 21:28













Yeah the pan was covered.

– CookingRookie87
Jan 8 at 21:33







Yeah the pan was covered.

– CookingRookie87
Jan 8 at 21:33






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You can try re-hydrating it, but I did this once and the scorched chicken made it not worth saving.

– Joe
Jan 8 at 22:43





You can try re-hydrating it, but I did this once and the scorched chicken made it not worth saving.

– Joe
Jan 8 at 22:43










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You don't mention covering your pot, so I'm assuming you left it uncovered for the duration. If that's the case, you boiled all your liquid off. Next time you can try using a lid, that should slow the evaporation of water from your pot and leave you with some stock still in the pot. Even if the pot was covered, though, "a couple of hours" is a pretty long time for something that only had enough water to cover-- no lid seals perfectly. Some evaporation is always to be expected, so you probably needed a little more water to start, or to have topped off the pot at some point.



You may be able to reuse your chicken pieces and vegetables, but I wouldn't. You mention using chicken breasts. If your aim is to produce a flavorful stock, this is the wrong part of the chicken to use.



Meat is typically used in broths, which can be flavorful, but chicken breasts are notoriously bland even when cooked whole. Stocks are typically made with bones and very little meat. Rendering the flavor and gelatin from the bones gives a rich stock using much cheaper cuts (or even scraps, if you have a recently roasted bird). Price may or may not be a factor for you, but the result is usually far superior when using an appropriate ratio of bones:water.



In your case your chicken breast is like so dry and overcooked at this point that there's not really any flavor left to impart to a stock/broth. You may have slightly better luck with the plant matter, but I doubt it.






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  • Bingo! Any chicken I cut up I keep the bones, frozen, till I have enough for broth. I put them in my crock pot with onion, celery carrots and a bay leaf or 2. FILL the crock pot and put it on high for 24 hours. Great stock. It comes out cloudy with a little fat after refrigerating, you could strain it thru cheese cloth but I just use it as is. That would be one way to do chicken stock.

    – Steve Chambers
    Jan 8 at 21:53













  • Thanks for the replies, the chicken breast was really just what I had available, so I will make sure that I use bones the next time round. I think I might have skimped on the water a little. I guess there has to be a balance so that evaporation isn't an issue when simmering, but not too much so that a bland stock is returned.

    – CookingRookie87
    Jan 8 at 22:15



















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Not absorbed (what would absorb it?)....evaporated. Even covered there was probably room for water vapor to escape. If you've stored them properly since...or this just happened. Cover with water, and simmer for 45 minutes. Strain. Use the stock. It won't be ideal, but you can avoid wasting the original ingredients.






share|improve this answer
























  • Thanks for your reply, the chicken and veg have been cooling off for a while. I'll then refridgerate and hopefully a decent stock can come of it.

    – CookingRookie87
    Jan 8 at 22:07





















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Since your confusion seems to come from not knowing where the sweet spot lies between too much and too little water: I looked up in Ruhlman's book "Ratio", and he recommends 3 parts water to 2 parts bones. On top of that, add mirepoix such that it makes no more than 20% of the total ingredients, which comes to a total ratio of roughly 3:2:1.



With that ratio, the problem can no longer be the water. If you again get too much evaporation, your problem is wrong temperature (too high) or wrong vessel (too high ratio of area to height). If you get a flavorless stock, you are using the wrong parts (white meat instead of bones), or low quality ingredients.






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    You don't mention covering your pot, so I'm assuming you left it uncovered for the duration. If that's the case, you boiled all your liquid off. Next time you can try using a lid, that should slow the evaporation of water from your pot and leave you with some stock still in the pot. Even if the pot was covered, though, "a couple of hours" is a pretty long time for something that only had enough water to cover-- no lid seals perfectly. Some evaporation is always to be expected, so you probably needed a little more water to start, or to have topped off the pot at some point.



    You may be able to reuse your chicken pieces and vegetables, but I wouldn't. You mention using chicken breasts. If your aim is to produce a flavorful stock, this is the wrong part of the chicken to use.



    Meat is typically used in broths, which can be flavorful, but chicken breasts are notoriously bland even when cooked whole. Stocks are typically made with bones and very little meat. Rendering the flavor and gelatin from the bones gives a rich stock using much cheaper cuts (or even scraps, if you have a recently roasted bird). Price may or may not be a factor for you, but the result is usually far superior when using an appropriate ratio of bones:water.



    In your case your chicken breast is like so dry and overcooked at this point that there's not really any flavor left to impart to a stock/broth. You may have slightly better luck with the plant matter, but I doubt it.






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    • Bingo! Any chicken I cut up I keep the bones, frozen, till I have enough for broth. I put them in my crock pot with onion, celery carrots and a bay leaf or 2. FILL the crock pot and put it on high for 24 hours. Great stock. It comes out cloudy with a little fat after refrigerating, you could strain it thru cheese cloth but I just use it as is. That would be one way to do chicken stock.

      – Steve Chambers
      Jan 8 at 21:53













    • Thanks for the replies, the chicken breast was really just what I had available, so I will make sure that I use bones the next time round. I think I might have skimped on the water a little. I guess there has to be a balance so that evaporation isn't an issue when simmering, but not too much so that a bland stock is returned.

      – CookingRookie87
      Jan 8 at 22:15
















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    You don't mention covering your pot, so I'm assuming you left it uncovered for the duration. If that's the case, you boiled all your liquid off. Next time you can try using a lid, that should slow the evaporation of water from your pot and leave you with some stock still in the pot. Even if the pot was covered, though, "a couple of hours" is a pretty long time for something that only had enough water to cover-- no lid seals perfectly. Some evaporation is always to be expected, so you probably needed a little more water to start, or to have topped off the pot at some point.



    You may be able to reuse your chicken pieces and vegetables, but I wouldn't. You mention using chicken breasts. If your aim is to produce a flavorful stock, this is the wrong part of the chicken to use.



    Meat is typically used in broths, which can be flavorful, but chicken breasts are notoriously bland even when cooked whole. Stocks are typically made with bones and very little meat. Rendering the flavor and gelatin from the bones gives a rich stock using much cheaper cuts (or even scraps, if you have a recently roasted bird). Price may or may not be a factor for you, but the result is usually far superior when using an appropriate ratio of bones:water.



    In your case your chicken breast is like so dry and overcooked at this point that there's not really any flavor left to impart to a stock/broth. You may have slightly better luck with the plant matter, but I doubt it.






    share|improve this answer
























    • Bingo! Any chicken I cut up I keep the bones, frozen, till I have enough for broth. I put them in my crock pot with onion, celery carrots and a bay leaf or 2. FILL the crock pot and put it on high for 24 hours. Great stock. It comes out cloudy with a little fat after refrigerating, you could strain it thru cheese cloth but I just use it as is. That would be one way to do chicken stock.

      – Steve Chambers
      Jan 8 at 21:53













    • Thanks for the replies, the chicken breast was really just what I had available, so I will make sure that I use bones the next time round. I think I might have skimped on the water a little. I guess there has to be a balance so that evaporation isn't an issue when simmering, but not too much so that a bland stock is returned.

      – CookingRookie87
      Jan 8 at 22:15














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    You don't mention covering your pot, so I'm assuming you left it uncovered for the duration. If that's the case, you boiled all your liquid off. Next time you can try using a lid, that should slow the evaporation of water from your pot and leave you with some stock still in the pot. Even if the pot was covered, though, "a couple of hours" is a pretty long time for something that only had enough water to cover-- no lid seals perfectly. Some evaporation is always to be expected, so you probably needed a little more water to start, or to have topped off the pot at some point.



    You may be able to reuse your chicken pieces and vegetables, but I wouldn't. You mention using chicken breasts. If your aim is to produce a flavorful stock, this is the wrong part of the chicken to use.



    Meat is typically used in broths, which can be flavorful, but chicken breasts are notoriously bland even when cooked whole. Stocks are typically made with bones and very little meat. Rendering the flavor and gelatin from the bones gives a rich stock using much cheaper cuts (or even scraps, if you have a recently roasted bird). Price may or may not be a factor for you, but the result is usually far superior when using an appropriate ratio of bones:water.



    In your case your chicken breast is like so dry and overcooked at this point that there's not really any flavor left to impart to a stock/broth. You may have slightly better luck with the plant matter, but I doubt it.






    share|improve this answer













    You don't mention covering your pot, so I'm assuming you left it uncovered for the duration. If that's the case, you boiled all your liquid off. Next time you can try using a lid, that should slow the evaporation of water from your pot and leave you with some stock still in the pot. Even if the pot was covered, though, "a couple of hours" is a pretty long time for something that only had enough water to cover-- no lid seals perfectly. Some evaporation is always to be expected, so you probably needed a little more water to start, or to have topped off the pot at some point.



    You may be able to reuse your chicken pieces and vegetables, but I wouldn't. You mention using chicken breasts. If your aim is to produce a flavorful stock, this is the wrong part of the chicken to use.



    Meat is typically used in broths, which can be flavorful, but chicken breasts are notoriously bland even when cooked whole. Stocks are typically made with bones and very little meat. Rendering the flavor and gelatin from the bones gives a rich stock using much cheaper cuts (or even scraps, if you have a recently roasted bird). Price may or may not be a factor for you, but the result is usually far superior when using an appropriate ratio of bones:water.



    In your case your chicken breast is like so dry and overcooked at this point that there's not really any flavor left to impart to a stock/broth. You may have slightly better luck with the plant matter, but I doubt it.







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    • Bingo! Any chicken I cut up I keep the bones, frozen, till I have enough for broth. I put them in my crock pot with onion, celery carrots and a bay leaf or 2. FILL the crock pot and put it on high for 24 hours. Great stock. It comes out cloudy with a little fat after refrigerating, you could strain it thru cheese cloth but I just use it as is. That would be one way to do chicken stock.

      – Steve Chambers
      Jan 8 at 21:53













    • Thanks for the replies, the chicken breast was really just what I had available, so I will make sure that I use bones the next time round. I think I might have skimped on the water a little. I guess there has to be a balance so that evaporation isn't an issue when simmering, but not too much so that a bland stock is returned.

      – CookingRookie87
      Jan 8 at 22:15



















    • Bingo! Any chicken I cut up I keep the bones, frozen, till I have enough for broth. I put them in my crock pot with onion, celery carrots and a bay leaf or 2. FILL the crock pot and put it on high for 24 hours. Great stock. It comes out cloudy with a little fat after refrigerating, you could strain it thru cheese cloth but I just use it as is. That would be one way to do chicken stock.

      – Steve Chambers
      Jan 8 at 21:53













    • Thanks for the replies, the chicken breast was really just what I had available, so I will make sure that I use bones the next time round. I think I might have skimped on the water a little. I guess there has to be a balance so that evaporation isn't an issue when simmering, but not too much so that a bland stock is returned.

      – CookingRookie87
      Jan 8 at 22:15

















    Bingo! Any chicken I cut up I keep the bones, frozen, till I have enough for broth. I put them in my crock pot with onion, celery carrots and a bay leaf or 2. FILL the crock pot and put it on high for 24 hours. Great stock. It comes out cloudy with a little fat after refrigerating, you could strain it thru cheese cloth but I just use it as is. That would be one way to do chicken stock.

    – Steve Chambers
    Jan 8 at 21:53







    Bingo! Any chicken I cut up I keep the bones, frozen, till I have enough for broth. I put them in my crock pot with onion, celery carrots and a bay leaf or 2. FILL the crock pot and put it on high for 24 hours. Great stock. It comes out cloudy with a little fat after refrigerating, you could strain it thru cheese cloth but I just use it as is. That would be one way to do chicken stock.

    – Steve Chambers
    Jan 8 at 21:53















    Thanks for the replies, the chicken breast was really just what I had available, so I will make sure that I use bones the next time round. I think I might have skimped on the water a little. I guess there has to be a balance so that evaporation isn't an issue when simmering, but not too much so that a bland stock is returned.

    – CookingRookie87
    Jan 8 at 22:15





    Thanks for the replies, the chicken breast was really just what I had available, so I will make sure that I use bones the next time round. I think I might have skimped on the water a little. I guess there has to be a balance so that evaporation isn't an issue when simmering, but not too much so that a bland stock is returned.

    – CookingRookie87
    Jan 8 at 22:15













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    Not absorbed (what would absorb it?)....evaporated. Even covered there was probably room for water vapor to escape. If you've stored them properly since...or this just happened. Cover with water, and simmer for 45 minutes. Strain. Use the stock. It won't be ideal, but you can avoid wasting the original ingredients.






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    • Thanks for your reply, the chicken and veg have been cooling off for a while. I'll then refridgerate and hopefully a decent stock can come of it.

      – CookingRookie87
      Jan 8 at 22:07


















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    Not absorbed (what would absorb it?)....evaporated. Even covered there was probably room for water vapor to escape. If you've stored them properly since...or this just happened. Cover with water, and simmer for 45 minutes. Strain. Use the stock. It won't be ideal, but you can avoid wasting the original ingredients.






    share|improve this answer
























    • Thanks for your reply, the chicken and veg have been cooling off for a while. I'll then refridgerate and hopefully a decent stock can come of it.

      – CookingRookie87
      Jan 8 at 22:07
















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    Not absorbed (what would absorb it?)....evaporated. Even covered there was probably room for water vapor to escape. If you've stored them properly since...or this just happened. Cover with water, and simmer for 45 minutes. Strain. Use the stock. It won't be ideal, but you can avoid wasting the original ingredients.






    share|improve this answer













    Not absorbed (what would absorb it?)....evaporated. Even covered there was probably room for water vapor to escape. If you've stored them properly since...or this just happened. Cover with water, and simmer for 45 minutes. Strain. Use the stock. It won't be ideal, but you can avoid wasting the original ingredients.







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    • Thanks for your reply, the chicken and veg have been cooling off for a while. I'll then refridgerate and hopefully a decent stock can come of it.

      – CookingRookie87
      Jan 8 at 22:07





















    • Thanks for your reply, the chicken and veg have been cooling off for a while. I'll then refridgerate and hopefully a decent stock can come of it.

      – CookingRookie87
      Jan 8 at 22:07



















    Thanks for your reply, the chicken and veg have been cooling off for a while. I'll then refridgerate and hopefully a decent stock can come of it.

    – CookingRookie87
    Jan 8 at 22:07







    Thanks for your reply, the chicken and veg have been cooling off for a while. I'll then refridgerate and hopefully a decent stock can come of it.

    – CookingRookie87
    Jan 8 at 22:07













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    Since your confusion seems to come from not knowing where the sweet spot lies between too much and too little water: I looked up in Ruhlman's book "Ratio", and he recommends 3 parts water to 2 parts bones. On top of that, add mirepoix such that it makes no more than 20% of the total ingredients, which comes to a total ratio of roughly 3:2:1.



    With that ratio, the problem can no longer be the water. If you again get too much evaporation, your problem is wrong temperature (too high) or wrong vessel (too high ratio of area to height). If you get a flavorless stock, you are using the wrong parts (white meat instead of bones), or low quality ingredients.






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      Since your confusion seems to come from not knowing where the sweet spot lies between too much and too little water: I looked up in Ruhlman's book "Ratio", and he recommends 3 parts water to 2 parts bones. On top of that, add mirepoix such that it makes no more than 20% of the total ingredients, which comes to a total ratio of roughly 3:2:1.



      With that ratio, the problem can no longer be the water. If you again get too much evaporation, your problem is wrong temperature (too high) or wrong vessel (too high ratio of area to height). If you get a flavorless stock, you are using the wrong parts (white meat instead of bones), or low quality ingredients.






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        Since your confusion seems to come from not knowing where the sweet spot lies between too much and too little water: I looked up in Ruhlman's book "Ratio", and he recommends 3 parts water to 2 parts bones. On top of that, add mirepoix such that it makes no more than 20% of the total ingredients, which comes to a total ratio of roughly 3:2:1.



        With that ratio, the problem can no longer be the water. If you again get too much evaporation, your problem is wrong temperature (too high) or wrong vessel (too high ratio of area to height). If you get a flavorless stock, you are using the wrong parts (white meat instead of bones), or low quality ingredients.






        share|improve this answer













        Since your confusion seems to come from not knowing where the sweet spot lies between too much and too little water: I looked up in Ruhlman's book "Ratio", and he recommends 3 parts water to 2 parts bones. On top of that, add mirepoix such that it makes no more than 20% of the total ingredients, which comes to a total ratio of roughly 3:2:1.



        With that ratio, the problem can no longer be the water. If you again get too much evaporation, your problem is wrong temperature (too high) or wrong vessel (too high ratio of area to height). If you get a flavorless stock, you are using the wrong parts (white meat instead of bones), or low quality ingredients.







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