What happened to the Dark Land in Arda?
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I'm not talking about Mordor. I'm talking about the continent between Middle-Earth and the Lands of the Sun. This continent existed throughout the Ages of Arda, until it seems to have vanished after the Downfall of Numenor.
The Dark Land is southeast of Middle-Earth. The Silmarillion states that the Numenorians visited it in the Second Age.
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I'm not talking about Mordor. I'm talking about the continent between Middle-Earth and the Lands of the Sun. This continent existed throughout the Ages of Arda, until it seems to have vanished after the Downfall of Numenor.
The Dark Land is southeast of Middle-Earth. The Silmarillion states that the Numenorians visited it in the Second Age.
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Can you provide a quote backing this up?
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I'm not talking about Mordor. I'm talking about the continent between Middle-Earth and the Lands of the Sun. This continent existed throughout the Ages of Arda, until it seems to have vanished after the Downfall of Numenor.
The Dark Land is southeast of Middle-Earth. The Silmarillion states that the Numenorians visited it in the Second Age.
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I'm not talking about Mordor. I'm talking about the continent between Middle-Earth and the Lands of the Sun. This continent existed throughout the Ages of Arda, until it seems to have vanished after the Downfall of Numenor.
The Dark Land is southeast of Middle-Earth. The Silmarillion states that the Numenorians visited it in the Second Age.
tolkiens-legendarium the-silmarillion
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asked Nov 17 at 16:40
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Can you provide a quote backing this up?
– Lexible
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But the land of Aman and Eressea of the Eldar were taken away and removed beyond the reach of Men forever. And Andor, the Land of Gift, Numenor of the Kings, Elenna of the Star of Earendil, was utterly destroyed. For it was nigh to the east of the great rift, and its foundations were overturned, and it fell and went down into darkness, and is no more. And is not now upon Earth any place abiding where the memory of a time without evil is preserved. For Iluvatar cast back the great sea west of Middle-Earth, and the Empty Lands east of it, and new lands and new seas were made; and the world was diminished, for Valinor and Eressea were taken from it into the realm of hidden things.
The Silmarillion, Akallabeth
This is the only thing I'm aware of that even hints at the answer. I would assume they were part of the "Empty Lands", destroyed and replaced with new continents.
answered Nov 17 at 18:09
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Dark Land / Hyarmenor was south of main part of Middle-Earth. I presume "Empty Land" is here the eastern equivalent of Aman - the "Land of Sun".
– Mithoron
Nov 17 at 21:24
I figured it was both, the Dark Lands seem better described as southeast.
– suchiuomizu
Nov 18 at 4:10
I had an idea the Dark Land may have split to become Australia and Antarctica.
– user35971
9 hours ago
So, the Lands of the Sun would also be destroyed? They look a lot like the Americas.
– user35971
9 hours ago
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But the land of Aman and Eressea of the Eldar were taken away and removed beyond the reach of Men forever. And Andor, the Land of Gift, Numenor of the Kings, Elenna of the Star of Earendil, was utterly destroyed. For it was nigh to the east of the great rift, and its foundations were overturned, and it fell and went down into darkness, and is no more. And is not now upon Earth any place abiding where the memory of a time without evil is preserved. For Iluvatar cast back the great sea west of Middle-Earth, and the Empty Lands east of it, and new lands and new seas were made; and the world was diminished, for Valinor and Eressea were taken from it into the realm of hidden things.
The Silmarillion, Akallabeth
This is the only thing I'm aware of that even hints at the answer. I would assume they were part of the "Empty Lands", destroyed and replaced with new continents.
answered Nov 17 at 18:09
suchiuomizu
3,29811019
Dark Land / Hyarmenor was south of main part of Middle-Earth. I presume "Empty Land" is here the eastern equivalent of Aman - the "Land of Sun".
– Mithoron
Nov 17 at 21:24
I figured it was both, the Dark Lands seem better described as southeast.
– suchiuomizu
Nov 18 at 4:10
I had an idea the Dark Land may have split to become Australia and Antarctica.
– user35971
9 hours ago
So, the Lands of the Sun would also be destroyed? They look a lot like the Americas.
– user35971
9 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
9
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But the land of Aman and Eressea of the Eldar were taken away and removed beyond the reach of Men forever. And Andor, the Land of Gift, Numenor of the Kings, Elenna of the Star of Earendil, was utterly destroyed. For it was nigh to the east of the great rift, and its foundations were overturned, and it fell and went down into darkness, and is no more. And is not now upon Earth any place abiding where the memory of a time without evil is preserved. For Iluvatar cast back the great sea west of Middle-Earth, and the Empty Lands east of it, and new lands and new seas were made; and the world was diminished, for Valinor and Eressea were taken from it into the realm of hidden things.
The Silmarillion, Akallabeth
This is the only thing I'm aware of that even hints at the answer. I would assume they were part of the "Empty Lands", destroyed and replaced with new continents.
answered Nov 17 at 18:09
suchiuomizu
3,29811019
Dark Land / Hyarmenor was south of main part of Middle-Earth. I presume "Empty Land" is here the eastern equivalent of Aman - the "Land of Sun".
– Mithoron
Nov 17 at 21:24
I figured it was both, the Dark Lands seem better described as southeast.
– suchiuomizu
Nov 18 at 4:10
I had an idea the Dark Land may have split to become Australia and Antarctica.
– user35971
9 hours ago
So, the Lands of the Sun would also be destroyed? They look a lot like the Americas.
– user35971
9 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
9
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accepted
up vote
9
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But the land of Aman and Eressea of the Eldar were taken away and removed beyond the reach of Men forever. And Andor, the Land of Gift, Numenor of the Kings, Elenna of the Star of Earendil, was utterly destroyed. For it was nigh to the east of the great rift, and its foundations were overturned, and it fell and went down into darkness, and is no more. And is not now upon Earth any place abiding where the memory of a time without evil is preserved. For Iluvatar cast back the great sea west of Middle-Earth, and the Empty Lands east of it, and new lands and new seas were made; and the world was diminished, for Valinor and Eressea were taken from it into the realm of hidden things.
The Silmarillion, Akallabeth
This is the only thing I'm aware of that even hints at the answer. I would assume they were part of the "Empty Lands", destroyed and replaced with new continents.
answered Nov 17 at 18:09
suchiuomizu
3,29811019
But the land of Aman and Eressea of the Eldar were taken away and removed beyond the reach of Men forever. And Andor, the Land of Gift, Numenor of the Kings, Elenna of the Star of Earendil, was utterly destroyed. For it was nigh to the east of the great rift, and its foundations were overturned, and it fell and went down into darkness, and is no more. And is not now upon Earth any place abiding where the memory of a time without evil is preserved. For Iluvatar cast back the great sea west of Middle-Earth, and the Empty Lands east of it, and new lands and new seas were made; and the world was diminished, for Valinor and Eressea were taken from it into the realm of hidden things.
The Silmarillion, Akallabeth
This is the only thing I'm aware of that even hints at the answer. I would assume they were part of the "Empty Lands", destroyed and replaced with new continents.
answered Nov 17 at 18:09
suchiuomizu
3,29811019
answered Nov 17 at 18:09
suchiuomizu
3,29811019
answered Nov 17 at 18:09
suchiuomizu
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answered Nov 17 at 18:09
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Dark Land / Hyarmenor was south of main part of Middle-Earth. I presume "Empty Land" is here the eastern equivalent of Aman - the "Land of Sun".
– Mithoron
Nov 17 at 21:24
I figured it was both, the Dark Lands seem better described as southeast.
– suchiuomizu
Nov 18 at 4:10
I had an idea the Dark Land may have split to become Australia and Antarctica.
– user35971
9 hours ago
So, the Lands of the Sun would also be destroyed? They look a lot like the Americas.
– user35971
9 hours ago
add a comment |
Dark Land / Hyarmenor was south of main part of Middle-Earth. I presume "Empty Land" is here the eastern equivalent of Aman - the "Land of Sun".
– Mithoron
Nov 17 at 21:24
I figured it was both, the Dark Lands seem better described as southeast.
– suchiuomizu
Nov 18 at 4:10
I had an idea the Dark Land may have split to become Australia and Antarctica.
– user35971
9 hours ago
So, the Lands of the Sun would also be destroyed? They look a lot like the Americas.
– user35971
9 hours ago
Dark Land / Hyarmenor was south of main part of Middle-Earth. I presume "Empty Land" is here the eastern equivalent of Aman - the "Land of Sun".
– Mithoron
Nov 17 at 21:24
Dark Land / Hyarmenor was south of main part of Middle-Earth. I presume "Empty Land" is here the eastern equivalent of Aman - the "Land of Sun".
– Mithoron
Nov 17 at 21:24
I figured it was both, the Dark Lands seem better described as southeast.
– suchiuomizu
Nov 18 at 4:10
I figured it was both, the Dark Lands seem better described as southeast.
– suchiuomizu
Nov 18 at 4:10
I had an idea the Dark Land may have split to become Australia and Antarctica.
– user35971
9 hours ago
I had an idea the Dark Land may have split to become Australia and Antarctica.
– user35971
9 hours ago
So, the Lands of the Sun would also be destroyed? They look a lot like the Americas.
– user35971
9 hours ago
So, the Lands of the Sun would also be destroyed? They look a lot like the Americas.
– user35971
9 hours ago
add a comment |
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