Followup on Proof: Equivalence Classes











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Suppose α and β are equivalence relations on the set S. Suppose further that the relation γ is defined as follows: For x,y∈S, xγy means xαy and xβy. Prove that γ is also an equivalence relation on S.



I'm not quite sure where I should start on this, but I think it has something to do with both α and β being equivalence relations, and then proving that γ is also an equivalence relation through the use of reflexive, symmetric, and transitive properties. Any ideas?



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The followup to this question is: Suppose, in the preceding problem, S = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6}, the equivalence classes of α are {1, 2, 3} and {4, 5, 6} and the equivalence classes of β are {1, 4}, {2, 5}, and {3, 6}. What are the equivalence classes of γ?



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  • Just go through the axioms one by one. For example we have $xgamma x$ if and only if $x alpha x$ and $xbeta x$. But we know...
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    Nov 17 at 18:53










  • Could you give an example of this?
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The original question at hand was:



Suppose α and β are equivalence relations on the set S. Suppose further that the relation γ is defined as follows: For x,y∈S, xγy means xαy and xβy. Prove that γ is also an equivalence relation on S.



I'm not quite sure where I should start on this, but I think it has something to do with both α and β being equivalence relations, and then proving that γ is also an equivalence relation through the use of reflexive, symmetric, and transitive properties. Any ideas?



(already answered in another thread)



The followup to this question is: Suppose, in the preceding problem, S = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6}, the equivalence classes of α are {1, 2, 3} and {4, 5, 6} and the equivalence classes of β are {1, 4}, {2, 5}, and {3, 6}. What are the equivalence classes of γ?



Any ideas on this one? I have no idea how to approach this.










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  • Just go through the axioms one by one. For example we have $xgamma x$ if and only if $x alpha x$ and $xbeta x$. But we know...
    – leibnewtz
    Nov 17 at 18:53










  • Could you give an example of this?
    – NKP
    Nov 17 at 19:30













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Suppose α and β are equivalence relations on the set S. Suppose further that the relation γ is defined as follows: For x,y∈S, xγy means xαy and xβy. Prove that γ is also an equivalence relation on S.



I'm not quite sure where I should start on this, but I think it has something to do with both α and β being equivalence relations, and then proving that γ is also an equivalence relation through the use of reflexive, symmetric, and transitive properties. Any ideas?



(already answered in another thread)



The followup to this question is: Suppose, in the preceding problem, S = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6}, the equivalence classes of α are {1, 2, 3} and {4, 5, 6} and the equivalence classes of β are {1, 4}, {2, 5}, and {3, 6}. What are the equivalence classes of γ?



Any ideas on this one? I have no idea how to approach this.










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The original question at hand was:



Suppose α and β are equivalence relations on the set S. Suppose further that the relation γ is defined as follows: For x,y∈S, xγy means xαy and xβy. Prove that γ is also an equivalence relation on S.



I'm not quite sure where I should start on this, but I think it has something to do with both α and β being equivalence relations, and then proving that γ is also an equivalence relation through the use of reflexive, symmetric, and transitive properties. Any ideas?



(already answered in another thread)



The followup to this question is: Suppose, in the preceding problem, S = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6}, the equivalence classes of α are {1, 2, 3} and {4, 5, 6} and the equivalence classes of β are {1, 4}, {2, 5}, and {3, 6}. What are the equivalence classes of γ?



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  • Just go through the axioms one by one. For example we have $xgamma x$ if and only if $x alpha x$ and $xbeta x$. But we know...
    – leibnewtz
    Nov 17 at 18:53










  • Could you give an example of this?
    – NKP
    Nov 17 at 19:30


















  • Just go through the axioms one by one. For example we have $xgamma x$ if and only if $x alpha x$ and $xbeta x$. But we know...
    – leibnewtz
    Nov 17 at 18:53










  • Could you give an example of this?
    – NKP
    Nov 17 at 19:30
















Just go through the axioms one by one. For example we have $xgamma x$ if and only if $x alpha x$ and $xbeta x$. But we know...
– leibnewtz
Nov 17 at 18:53




Just go through the axioms one by one. For example we have $xgamma x$ if and only if $x alpha x$ and $xbeta x$. But we know...
– leibnewtz
Nov 17 at 18:53












Could you give an example of this?
– NKP
Nov 17 at 19:30




Could you give an example of this?
– NKP
Nov 17 at 19:30










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For the first question, check the axioms one by one. For example (i) reflexive: Take any $xin S$. $xalpha x$ and $xbeta x$, thus... (continue)



For the second part, start with one element in $S$, e.g. with $1$ and then add all elements which are equivelant to $1$. If you have all of them, continue and do the same thing again. This is a valid strategy, since $S$ is finite. Make sure that you understand why an equivalence relation partitions its set into classes.



Btw, you will learn more from your problem sheets, if you don't ask for solutions online. So be strong next time.






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    For the first question, check the axioms one by one. For example (i) reflexive: Take any $xin S$. $xalpha x$ and $xbeta x$, thus... (continue)



    For the second part, start with one element in $S$, e.g. with $1$ and then add all elements which are equivelant to $1$. If you have all of them, continue and do the same thing again. This is a valid strategy, since $S$ is finite. Make sure that you understand why an equivalence relation partitions its set into classes.



    Btw, you will learn more from your problem sheets, if you don't ask for solutions online. So be strong next time.






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      For the first question, check the axioms one by one. For example (i) reflexive: Take any $xin S$. $xalpha x$ and $xbeta x$, thus... (continue)



      For the second part, start with one element in $S$, e.g. with $1$ and then add all elements which are equivelant to $1$. If you have all of them, continue and do the same thing again. This is a valid strategy, since $S$ is finite. Make sure that you understand why an equivalence relation partitions its set into classes.



      Btw, you will learn more from your problem sheets, if you don't ask for solutions online. So be strong next time.






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        For the first question, check the axioms one by one. For example (i) reflexive: Take any $xin S$. $xalpha x$ and $xbeta x$, thus... (continue)



        For the second part, start with one element in $S$, e.g. with $1$ and then add all elements which are equivelant to $1$. If you have all of them, continue and do the same thing again. This is a valid strategy, since $S$ is finite. Make sure that you understand why an equivalence relation partitions its set into classes.



        Btw, you will learn more from your problem sheets, if you don't ask for solutions online. So be strong next time.






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        For the first question, check the axioms one by one. For example (i) reflexive: Take any $xin S$. $xalpha x$ and $xbeta x$, thus... (continue)



        For the second part, start with one element in $S$, e.g. with $1$ and then add all elements which are equivelant to $1$. If you have all of them, continue and do the same thing again. This is a valid strategy, since $S$ is finite. Make sure that you understand why an equivalence relation partitions its set into classes.



        Btw, you will learn more from your problem sheets, if you don't ask for solutions online. So be strong next time.







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