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Is it true that every nested sequence of non-empty closed sets $(I_n)$ (one such that $I_{n+1} subset I_n$) has a non-empty intersection?
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Is it true that every nested sequence of non-empty closed sets $(I_n)$ (one such that $I_{n+1} subset I_n$) has a non-empty intersection?
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Closed sets where? In what topological space?
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I added 'non-empty' to the question, because otherwise there is the trivial counter-example where $I_n =emptyset$ for large enough $n$.
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Is it true that every nested sequence of non-empty closed sets $(I_n)$ (one such that $I_{n+1} subset I_n$) has a non-empty intersection?
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Is it true that every nested sequence of non-empty closed sets $(I_n)$ (one such that $I_{n+1} subset I_n$) has a non-empty intersection?
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Closed sets where? In what topological space?
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– Asaf Karagila♦
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I added 'non-empty' to the question, because otherwise there is the trivial counter-example where $I_n =emptyset$ for large enough $n$.
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Closed sets where? In what topological space?
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I added 'non-empty' to the question, because otherwise there is the trivial counter-example where $I_n =emptyset$ for large enough $n$.
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Closed sets where? In what topological space?
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Closed sets where? In what topological space?
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I added 'non-empty' to the question, because otherwise there is the trivial counter-example where $I_n =emptyset$ for large enough $n$.
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If $X$ is a compact space, this is true. $mathcal{F} = {I_alpha}_{alpha in I}$ is an arbitrary collection of nonempty closed sets such that any intersection of finitely many sets from $mathcal{F}$ is nonempty, then $bigcap_{alpha in I} I_alpha$ is nonempty.
To prove this, suppose $bigcap_{alpha in I} I_alpha$ is empty. Then ${X - I_alpha}$ is an open cover of $X$. Since $X$ is compact, there exists $alpha_1, ..., alpha_n$ such that $bigcup_{j = 1}^n (X - I_{alpha_j}) = X$. Then $bigcap_{j = 1}^n I_{alpha_j} = emptyset$. This contradicts the assumption that any finite intersection of elements of $mathcal{F}$ is nonempty.
For example (in your case) if $mathcal{F}$ consists of nonempty nested intervals, then $mathcal{F}$ has the finite intersection property and the above proof assured that the infinite intersection is nonempty.
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No: take $I_n=[n,to)={xinBbb R:xge n}$. If, however, some $I_m$ is compact, then $I_n$ is compact for all $nge m$, and the intersection will be non-empty.
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How do you use compactness to prove that?
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@user94055: For $nge m$ let $U_n=Bbb Rsetminus I_n$. Show that if $bigcap_{nge m}I_n=varnothing$, then ${U_n:nge m}$ is an open cover of $I_m$ with no finite subcover. You may find this post from Dan Ma’s Topology Blog helpful.
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@BrianM.Scott: Can i ask you to help me about this two questions 1, 2, Thanks.
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I'm studying intro to analysis and I got that a nested sequence of closed and nonempty subsets of $mathbb{R}$ do not necessarily have a nonempty infinite intersection:
$textbf{Claim 1}$: The set $A_{n} = (-infty, -n]$ is closed, $nin mathbb{N}$.
$textit{proof}$: Let $x$ be a limit point for $A_{n}Rightarrow$ if we had $x>-n,$ choose $epsilon = x+nRightarrow x-epsilon=-n<displaystyle x-frac{epsilon}{2}Rightarrow
V_{epsilon/2}(x)cap A_{n}=emptyset Rightarrow $ contradiction $Rightarrow xin A_{n}$.
$textbf{Claim 2}$: $A_{n+1}subseteq A_{n}forall n$.
$textit{Proof}$: $xin A_{n+1}Rightarrow xleq-n-1<-nRightarrow xin A_{n}$.
$textbf{Claim 3}$: The sequence $A_{n}supset A_{n+1}, A_{n}=(-infty,-n] forall n$ has
empty infinite intersection.
$textit{Proof}: bigcap_{n=1}^{infty}A_{n}neq emptyset Rightarrow$ choose $xin
bigcap_{n=1}^{infty}A_{n}Rightarrow xleq -nhspace{.5pc}forall nRightarrow -xgeq nhspace{.5pc}forall nRightarrow$ contradiction ($mathbb{N}$ is not bounded above)
$textbf{Conclusion}$: By claims 1,2, and 3, we have a nested sequence of closed sets with empty infinite intersection.
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- $V_{epsilon}(x)=(x-epsilon,x+epsilon)$
- Infinite intersection of $A_{n}=bigcap_{n=1}^{infty}A_{n}$
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If $X$ is a compact space, this is true. $mathcal{F} = {I_alpha}_{alpha in I}$ is an arbitrary collection of nonempty closed sets such that any intersection of finitely many sets from $mathcal{F}$ is nonempty, then $bigcap_{alpha in I} I_alpha$ is nonempty.
To prove this, suppose $bigcap_{alpha in I} I_alpha$ is empty. Then ${X - I_alpha}$ is an open cover of $X$. Since $X$ is compact, there exists $alpha_1, ..., alpha_n$ such that $bigcup_{j = 1}^n (X - I_{alpha_j}) = X$. Then $bigcap_{j = 1}^n I_{alpha_j} = emptyset$. This contradicts the assumption that any finite intersection of elements of $mathcal{F}$ is nonempty.
For example (in your case) if $mathcal{F}$ consists of nonempty nested intervals, then $mathcal{F}$ has the finite intersection property and the above proof assured that the infinite intersection is nonempty.
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If $X$ is a compact space, this is true. $mathcal{F} = {I_alpha}_{alpha in I}$ is an arbitrary collection of nonempty closed sets such that any intersection of finitely many sets from $mathcal{F}$ is nonempty, then $bigcap_{alpha in I} I_alpha$ is nonempty.
To prove this, suppose $bigcap_{alpha in I} I_alpha$ is empty. Then ${X - I_alpha}$ is an open cover of $X$. Since $X$ is compact, there exists $alpha_1, ..., alpha_n$ such that $bigcup_{j = 1}^n (X - I_{alpha_j}) = X$. Then $bigcap_{j = 1}^n I_{alpha_j} = emptyset$. This contradicts the assumption that any finite intersection of elements of $mathcal{F}$ is nonempty.
For example (in your case) if $mathcal{F}$ consists of nonempty nested intervals, then $mathcal{F}$ has the finite intersection property and the above proof assured that the infinite intersection is nonempty.
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If $X$ is a compact space, this is true. $mathcal{F} = {I_alpha}_{alpha in I}$ is an arbitrary collection of nonempty closed sets such that any intersection of finitely many sets from $mathcal{F}$ is nonempty, then $bigcap_{alpha in I} I_alpha$ is nonempty.
To prove this, suppose $bigcap_{alpha in I} I_alpha$ is empty. Then ${X - I_alpha}$ is an open cover of $X$. Since $X$ is compact, there exists $alpha_1, ..., alpha_n$ such that $bigcup_{j = 1}^n (X - I_{alpha_j}) = X$. Then $bigcap_{j = 1}^n I_{alpha_j} = emptyset$. This contradicts the assumption that any finite intersection of elements of $mathcal{F}$ is nonempty.
For example (in your case) if $mathcal{F}$ consists of nonempty nested intervals, then $mathcal{F}$ has the finite intersection property and the above proof assured that the infinite intersection is nonempty.
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If $X$ is a compact space, this is true. $mathcal{F} = {I_alpha}_{alpha in I}$ is an arbitrary collection of nonempty closed sets such that any intersection of finitely many sets from $mathcal{F}$ is nonempty, then $bigcap_{alpha in I} I_alpha$ is nonempty.
To prove this, suppose $bigcap_{alpha in I} I_alpha$ is empty. Then ${X - I_alpha}$ is an open cover of $X$. Since $X$ is compact, there exists $alpha_1, ..., alpha_n$ such that $bigcup_{j = 1}^n (X - I_{alpha_j}) = X$. Then $bigcap_{j = 1}^n I_{alpha_j} = emptyset$. This contradicts the assumption that any finite intersection of elements of $mathcal{F}$ is nonempty.
For example (in your case) if $mathcal{F}$ consists of nonempty nested intervals, then $mathcal{F}$ has the finite intersection property and the above proof assured that the infinite intersection is nonempty.
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No: take $I_n=[n,to)={xinBbb R:xge n}$. If, however, some $I_m$ is compact, then $I_n$ is compact for all $nge m$, and the intersection will be non-empty.
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How do you use compactness to prove that?
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@user94055: For $nge m$ let $U_n=Bbb Rsetminus I_n$. Show that if $bigcap_{nge m}I_n=varnothing$, then ${U_n:nge m}$ is an open cover of $I_m$ with no finite subcover. You may find this post from Dan Ma’s Topology Blog helpful.
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@BrianM.Scott: Can i ask you to help me about this two questions 1, 2, Thanks.
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@M.Sina: I did see your questions, but I’m probably going to need to refresh my memory a bit before answering. I’m about to head off to bed now, but I’ll take a look tomorrow.
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No: take $I_n=[n,to)={xinBbb R:xge n}$. If, however, some $I_m$ is compact, then $I_n$ is compact for all $nge m$, and the intersection will be non-empty.
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How do you use compactness to prove that?
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– user94055
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@user94055: For $nge m$ let $U_n=Bbb Rsetminus I_n$. Show that if $bigcap_{nge m}I_n=varnothing$, then ${U_n:nge m}$ is an open cover of $I_m$ with no finite subcover. You may find this post from Dan Ma’s Topology Blog helpful.
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@M.Sina: I did see your questions, but I’m probably going to need to refresh my memory a bit before answering. I’m about to head off to bed now, but I’ll take a look tomorrow.
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No: take $I_n=[n,to)={xinBbb R:xge n}$. If, however, some $I_m$ is compact, then $I_n$ is compact for all $nge m$, and the intersection will be non-empty.
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No: take $I_n=[n,to)={xinBbb R:xge n}$. If, however, some $I_m$ is compact, then $I_n$ is compact for all $nge m$, and the intersection will be non-empty.
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@user94055: For $nge m$ let $U_n=Bbb Rsetminus I_n$. Show that if $bigcap_{nge m}I_n=varnothing$, then ${U_n:nge m}$ is an open cover of $I_m$ with no finite subcover. You may find this post from Dan Ma’s Topology Blog helpful.
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@M.Sina: I did see your questions, but I’m probably going to need to refresh my memory a bit before answering. I’m about to head off to bed now, but I’ll take a look tomorrow.
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How do you use compactness to prove that?
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@user94055: For $nge m$ let $U_n=Bbb Rsetminus I_n$. Show that if $bigcap_{nge m}I_n=varnothing$, then ${U_n:nge m}$ is an open cover of $I_m$ with no finite subcover. You may find this post from Dan Ma’s Topology Blog helpful.
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@M.Sina: I did see your questions, but I’m probably going to need to refresh my memory a bit before answering. I’m about to head off to bed now, but I’ll take a look tomorrow.
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How do you use compactness to prove that?
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@user94055: For $nge m$ let $U_n=Bbb Rsetminus I_n$. Show that if $bigcap_{nge m}I_n=varnothing$, then ${U_n:nge m}$ is an open cover of $I_m$ with no finite subcover. You may find this post from Dan Ma’s Topology Blog helpful.
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@user94055: For $nge m$ let $U_n=Bbb Rsetminus I_n$. Show that if $bigcap_{nge m}I_n=varnothing$, then ${U_n:nge m}$ is an open cover of $I_m$ with no finite subcover. You may find this post from Dan Ma’s Topology Blog helpful.
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I'm studying intro to analysis and I got that a nested sequence of closed and nonempty subsets of $mathbb{R}$ do not necessarily have a nonempty infinite intersection:
$textbf{Claim 1}$: The set $A_{n} = (-infty, -n]$ is closed, $nin mathbb{N}$.
$textit{proof}$: Let $x$ be a limit point for $A_{n}Rightarrow$ if we had $x>-n,$ choose $epsilon = x+nRightarrow x-epsilon=-n<displaystyle x-frac{epsilon}{2}Rightarrow
V_{epsilon/2}(x)cap A_{n}=emptyset Rightarrow $ contradiction $Rightarrow xin A_{n}$.
$textbf{Claim 2}$: $A_{n+1}subseteq A_{n}forall n$.
$textit{Proof}$: $xin A_{n+1}Rightarrow xleq-n-1<-nRightarrow xin A_{n}$.
$textbf{Claim 3}$: The sequence $A_{n}supset A_{n+1}, A_{n}=(-infty,-n] forall n$ has
empty infinite intersection.
$textit{Proof}: bigcap_{n=1}^{infty}A_{n}neq emptyset Rightarrow$ choose $xin
bigcap_{n=1}^{infty}A_{n}Rightarrow xleq -nhspace{.5pc}forall nRightarrow -xgeq nhspace{.5pc}forall nRightarrow$ contradiction ($mathbb{N}$ is not bounded above)
$textbf{Conclusion}$: By claims 1,2, and 3, we have a nested sequence of closed sets with empty infinite intersection.
$underline{Legend}$:
- $V_{epsilon}(x)=(x-epsilon,x+epsilon)$
- Infinite intersection of $A_{n}=bigcap_{n=1}^{infty}A_{n}$
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I'm studying intro to analysis and I got that a nested sequence of closed and nonempty subsets of $mathbb{R}$ do not necessarily have a nonempty infinite intersection:
$textbf{Claim 1}$: The set $A_{n} = (-infty, -n]$ is closed, $nin mathbb{N}$.
$textit{proof}$: Let $x$ be a limit point for $A_{n}Rightarrow$ if we had $x>-n,$ choose $epsilon = x+nRightarrow x-epsilon=-n<displaystyle x-frac{epsilon}{2}Rightarrow
V_{epsilon/2}(x)cap A_{n}=emptyset Rightarrow $ contradiction $Rightarrow xin A_{n}$.
$textbf{Claim 2}$: $A_{n+1}subseteq A_{n}forall n$.
$textit{Proof}$: $xin A_{n+1}Rightarrow xleq-n-1<-nRightarrow xin A_{n}$.
$textbf{Claim 3}$: The sequence $A_{n}supset A_{n+1}, A_{n}=(-infty,-n] forall n$ has
empty infinite intersection.
$textit{Proof}: bigcap_{n=1}^{infty}A_{n}neq emptyset Rightarrow$ choose $xin
bigcap_{n=1}^{infty}A_{n}Rightarrow xleq -nhspace{.5pc}forall nRightarrow -xgeq nhspace{.5pc}forall nRightarrow$ contradiction ($mathbb{N}$ is not bounded above)
$textbf{Conclusion}$: By claims 1,2, and 3, we have a nested sequence of closed sets with empty infinite intersection.
$underline{Legend}$:
- $V_{epsilon}(x)=(x-epsilon,x+epsilon)$
- Infinite intersection of $A_{n}=bigcap_{n=1}^{infty}A_{n}$
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I'm studying intro to analysis and I got that a nested sequence of closed and nonempty subsets of $mathbb{R}$ do not necessarily have a nonempty infinite intersection:
$textbf{Claim 1}$: The set $A_{n} = (-infty, -n]$ is closed, $nin mathbb{N}$.
$textit{proof}$: Let $x$ be a limit point for $A_{n}Rightarrow$ if we had $x>-n,$ choose $epsilon = x+nRightarrow x-epsilon=-n<displaystyle x-frac{epsilon}{2}Rightarrow
V_{epsilon/2}(x)cap A_{n}=emptyset Rightarrow $ contradiction $Rightarrow xin A_{n}$.
$textbf{Claim 2}$: $A_{n+1}subseteq A_{n}forall n$.
$textit{Proof}$: $xin A_{n+1}Rightarrow xleq-n-1<-nRightarrow xin A_{n}$.
$textbf{Claim 3}$: The sequence $A_{n}supset A_{n+1}, A_{n}=(-infty,-n] forall n$ has
empty infinite intersection.
$textit{Proof}: bigcap_{n=1}^{infty}A_{n}neq emptyset Rightarrow$ choose $xin
bigcap_{n=1}^{infty}A_{n}Rightarrow xleq -nhspace{.5pc}forall nRightarrow -xgeq nhspace{.5pc}forall nRightarrow$ contradiction ($mathbb{N}$ is not bounded above)
$textbf{Conclusion}$: By claims 1,2, and 3, we have a nested sequence of closed sets with empty infinite intersection.
$underline{Legend}$:
- $V_{epsilon}(x)=(x-epsilon,x+epsilon)$
- Infinite intersection of $A_{n}=bigcap_{n=1}^{infty}A_{n}$
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I'm studying intro to analysis and I got that a nested sequence of closed and nonempty subsets of $mathbb{R}$ do not necessarily have a nonempty infinite intersection:
$textbf{Claim 1}$: The set $A_{n} = (-infty, -n]$ is closed, $nin mathbb{N}$.
$textit{proof}$: Let $x$ be a limit point for $A_{n}Rightarrow$ if we had $x>-n,$ choose $epsilon = x+nRightarrow x-epsilon=-n<displaystyle x-frac{epsilon}{2}Rightarrow
V_{epsilon/2}(x)cap A_{n}=emptyset Rightarrow $ contradiction $Rightarrow xin A_{n}$.
$textbf{Claim 2}$: $A_{n+1}subseteq A_{n}forall n$.
$textit{Proof}$: $xin A_{n+1}Rightarrow xleq-n-1<-nRightarrow xin A_{n}$.
$textbf{Claim 3}$: The sequence $A_{n}supset A_{n+1}, A_{n}=(-infty,-n] forall n$ has
empty infinite intersection.
$textit{Proof}: bigcap_{n=1}^{infty}A_{n}neq emptyset Rightarrow$ choose $xin
bigcap_{n=1}^{infty}A_{n}Rightarrow xleq -nhspace{.5pc}forall nRightarrow -xgeq nhspace{.5pc}forall nRightarrow$ contradiction ($mathbb{N}$ is not bounded above)
$textbf{Conclusion}$: By claims 1,2, and 3, we have a nested sequence of closed sets with empty infinite intersection.
$underline{Legend}$:
- $V_{epsilon}(x)=(x-epsilon,x+epsilon)$
- Infinite intersection of $A_{n}=bigcap_{n=1}^{infty}A_{n}$
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$begingroup$
Closed sets where? In what topological space?
$endgroup$
– Asaf Karagila♦
Sep 10 '13 at 7:55
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$begingroup$
I added 'non-empty' to the question, because otherwise there is the trivial counter-example where $I_n =emptyset$ for large enough $n$.
$endgroup$
– Rhys
Sep 10 '13 at 7:56