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Prove that there cannot exist a triangle in which the trisectors of an angle also trisect the opposite side by using proportions.




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I have started the proof by way of contradiction.



Suppose we have a triangle $Delta BAC$ with trisectors $AD$ and $A$E so that $D$ and $E$ are points lying in side $BC$. I also supposed that $D$ and $E$ trisect $BC$ such that $BD=DE=EC$. I then looked at triangle $BAE$ and observed that $AD$ bisects $angle BAE$ and that point $D$ is the midpoint of $BE$ therefore $BD$ is both a median and an angle bisector.



From this I get stuck and do not know how to apply proportions. I know we proceed similarly when looking at $Delta DAC$.










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    Prove that there cannot exist a triangle in which the trisectors of an angle also trisect the opposite side by using proportions.




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    I have started the proof by way of contradiction.



    Suppose we have a triangle $Delta BAC$ with trisectors $AD$ and $A$E so that $D$ and $E$ are points lying in side $BC$. I also supposed that $D$ and $E$ trisect $BC$ such that $BD=DE=EC$. I then looked at triangle $BAE$ and observed that $AD$ bisects $angle BAE$ and that point $D$ is the midpoint of $BE$ therefore $BD$ is both a median and an angle bisector.



    From this I get stuck and do not know how to apply proportions. I know we proceed similarly when looking at $Delta DAC$.










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      Prove that there cannot exist a triangle in which the trisectors of an angle also trisect the opposite side by using proportions.




      Attempt
      I have started the proof by way of contradiction.



      Suppose we have a triangle $Delta BAC$ with trisectors $AD$ and $A$E so that $D$ and $E$ are points lying in side $BC$. I also supposed that $D$ and $E$ trisect $BC$ such that $BD=DE=EC$. I then looked at triangle $BAE$ and observed that $AD$ bisects $angle BAE$ and that point $D$ is the midpoint of $BE$ therefore $BD$ is both a median and an angle bisector.



      From this I get stuck and do not know how to apply proportions. I know we proceed similarly when looking at $Delta DAC$.










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      Prove that there cannot exist a triangle in which the trisectors of an angle also trisect the opposite side by using proportions.




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      I have started the proof by way of contradiction.



      Suppose we have a triangle $Delta BAC$ with trisectors $AD$ and $A$E so that $D$ and $E$ are points lying in side $BC$. I also supposed that $D$ and $E$ trisect $BC$ such that $BD=DE=EC$. I then looked at triangle $BAE$ and observed that $AD$ bisects $angle BAE$ and that point $D$ is the midpoint of $BE$ therefore $BD$ is both a median and an angle bisector.



      From this I get stuck and do not know how to apply proportions. I know we proceed similarly when looking at $Delta DAC$.







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      edited Dec 19 '18 at 21:36









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            You have a $triangle{ABC}$. Let us say that side $BC$ is trisected by points $D, E$ such as $BD=DE=EC$. Note that $A_{triangle{ACE}}=A_{triangle{AED}}=A_{triangle{ADB}}$ (equal bases, same height). Using area of a triangle formula this leads to $AC=AD$, $AE=AB$. But then $AE$ is a median and height of $triangle{ACD}$ and $AD$ is a median and height of $triangle{AED}$. We have two perpediculars from one point $A$ to side $BC$ that go to two distinct points. This is impossible.






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              It is enough to show (through the sine theorem, for instance) that in the following configuration the red segments are longer than the blue ones:
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                  It is enough to show (through the sine theorem, for instance) that in the following configuration the red segments are longer than the blue ones:
                  enter image description here






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                  It is enough to show (through the sine theorem, for instance) that in the following configuration the red segments are longer than the blue ones:
                  enter image description here







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                  answered Dec 19 '18 at 19:45









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                      You have a $triangle{ABC}$. Let us say that side $BC$ is trisected by points $D, E$ such as $BD=DE=EC$. Note that $A_{triangle{ACE}}=A_{triangle{AED}}=A_{triangle{ADB}}$ (equal bases, same height). Using area of a triangle formula this leads to $AC=AD$, $AE=AB$. But then $AE$ is a median and height of $triangle{ACD}$ and $AD$ is a median and height of $triangle{AED}$. We have two perpediculars from one point $A$ to side $BC$ that go to two distinct points. This is impossible.






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                        You have a $triangle{ABC}$. Let us say that side $BC$ is trisected by points $D, E$ such as $BD=DE=EC$. Note that $A_{triangle{ACE}}=A_{triangle{AED}}=A_{triangle{ADB}}$ (equal bases, same height). Using area of a triangle formula this leads to $AC=AD$, $AE=AB$. But then $AE$ is a median and height of $triangle{ACD}$ and $AD$ is a median and height of $triangle{AED}$. We have two perpediculars from one point $A$ to side $BC$ that go to two distinct points. This is impossible.






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                          You have a $triangle{ABC}$. Let us say that side $BC$ is trisected by points $D, E$ such as $BD=DE=EC$. Note that $A_{triangle{ACE}}=A_{triangle{AED}}=A_{triangle{ADB}}$ (equal bases, same height). Using area of a triangle formula this leads to $AC=AD$, $AE=AB$. But then $AE$ is a median and height of $triangle{ACD}$ and $AD$ is a median and height of $triangle{AED}$. We have two perpediculars from one point $A$ to side $BC$ that go to two distinct points. This is impossible.






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                          You have a $triangle{ABC}$. Let us say that side $BC$ is trisected by points $D, E$ such as $BD=DE=EC$. Note that $A_{triangle{ACE}}=A_{triangle{AED}}=A_{triangle{ADB}}$ (equal bases, same height). Using area of a triangle formula this leads to $AC=AD$, $AE=AB$. But then $AE$ is a median and height of $triangle{ACD}$ and $AD$ is a median and height of $triangle{AED}$. We have two perpediculars from one point $A$ to side $BC$ that go to two distinct points. This is impossible.







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                          answered Dec 19 '18 at 19:51









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