How to solve the Free Space Path Loss formula (Logarithms)












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I don't have a strong mathematical understanding of logarithms so I would like some help with understanding the formula - it's a bit confusing for me as it is



1) What is the meaning of 20*logf and 20*logd



2) What is the significance of the 20*



3) How would I calculate this on a calculator



The Revision slide for reference



Lp = 36.6 + (20*log10(F)) + (20 log10(D))



Lp = free-space path loss between antennas (in dB)



F = frequency in MHz



D = path length in miles










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    I take them to mean $log{f}$ and $log{d}$
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    – saulspatz
    Dec 19 '18 at 20:08










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    "$20 *$" means "$20 times$" (= 20 times what follows). "20 stars" would also be eligible in this Xmas time...
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    – Jean Marie
    Dec 19 '18 at 20:59












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    Using the fact that $log a + log b = log ab$, the easiest way to enter this on your calculator is to type the value of f, $*$, the value of d, $=$. Then $log$ (I'm not sure what base this log is supposed to be with respect to, you may have adjust) and $=$ again. Then multiply by $20$ (and $=$ again). Finally, add 36.6 and hit $=$. This order will save you from any difficulties coming from calculators not always respecting order of operations in the way you expect them to.It also saves you a few keystrokes.
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    – Aaron
    Dec 20 '18 at 3:18
















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I don't have a strong mathematical understanding of logarithms so I would like some help with understanding the formula - it's a bit confusing for me as it is



1) What is the meaning of 20*logf and 20*logd



2) What is the significance of the 20*



3) How would I calculate this on a calculator



The Revision slide for reference



Lp = 36.6 + (20*log10(F)) + (20 log10(D))



Lp = free-space path loss between antennas (in dB)



F = frequency in MHz



D = path length in miles










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  • $begingroup$
    I take them to mean $log{f}$ and $log{d}$
    $endgroup$
    – saulspatz
    Dec 19 '18 at 20:08










  • $begingroup$
    "$20 *$" means "$20 times$" (= 20 times what follows). "20 stars" would also be eligible in this Xmas time...
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Dec 19 '18 at 20:59












  • $begingroup$
    Using the fact that $log a + log b = log ab$, the easiest way to enter this on your calculator is to type the value of f, $*$, the value of d, $=$. Then $log$ (I'm not sure what base this log is supposed to be with respect to, you may have adjust) and $=$ again. Then multiply by $20$ (and $=$ again). Finally, add 36.6 and hit $=$. This order will save you from any difficulties coming from calculators not always respecting order of operations in the way you expect them to.It also saves you a few keystrokes.
    $endgroup$
    – Aaron
    Dec 20 '18 at 3:18














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$begingroup$


I don't have a strong mathematical understanding of logarithms so I would like some help with understanding the formula - it's a bit confusing for me as it is



1) What is the meaning of 20*logf and 20*logd



2) What is the significance of the 20*



3) How would I calculate this on a calculator



The Revision slide for reference



Lp = 36.6 + (20*log10(F)) + (20 log10(D))



Lp = free-space path loss between antennas (in dB)



F = frequency in MHz



D = path length in miles










share|cite|improve this question











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I don't have a strong mathematical understanding of logarithms so I would like some help with understanding the formula - it's a bit confusing for me as it is



1) What is the meaning of 20*logf and 20*logd



2) What is the significance of the 20*



3) How would I calculate this on a calculator



The Revision slide for reference



Lp = 36.6 + (20*log10(F)) + (20 log10(D))



Lp = free-space path loss between antennas (in dB)



F = frequency in MHz



D = path length in miles







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  • $begingroup$
    I take them to mean $log{f}$ and $log{d}$
    $endgroup$
    – saulspatz
    Dec 19 '18 at 20:08










  • $begingroup$
    "$20 *$" means "$20 times$" (= 20 times what follows). "20 stars" would also be eligible in this Xmas time...
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Dec 19 '18 at 20:59












  • $begingroup$
    Using the fact that $log a + log b = log ab$, the easiest way to enter this on your calculator is to type the value of f, $*$, the value of d, $=$. Then $log$ (I'm not sure what base this log is supposed to be with respect to, you may have adjust) and $=$ again. Then multiply by $20$ (and $=$ again). Finally, add 36.6 and hit $=$. This order will save you from any difficulties coming from calculators not always respecting order of operations in the way you expect them to.It also saves you a few keystrokes.
    $endgroup$
    – Aaron
    Dec 20 '18 at 3:18


















  • $begingroup$
    I take them to mean $log{f}$ and $log{d}$
    $endgroup$
    – saulspatz
    Dec 19 '18 at 20:08










  • $begingroup$
    "$20 *$" means "$20 times$" (= 20 times what follows). "20 stars" would also be eligible in this Xmas time...
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Dec 19 '18 at 20:59












  • $begingroup$
    Using the fact that $log a + log b = log ab$, the easiest way to enter this on your calculator is to type the value of f, $*$, the value of d, $=$. Then $log$ (I'm not sure what base this log is supposed to be with respect to, you may have adjust) and $=$ again. Then multiply by $20$ (and $=$ again). Finally, add 36.6 and hit $=$. This order will save you from any difficulties coming from calculators not always respecting order of operations in the way you expect them to.It also saves you a few keystrokes.
    $endgroup$
    – Aaron
    Dec 20 '18 at 3:18
















$begingroup$
I take them to mean $log{f}$ and $log{d}$
$endgroup$
– saulspatz
Dec 19 '18 at 20:08




$begingroup$
I take them to mean $log{f}$ and $log{d}$
$endgroup$
– saulspatz
Dec 19 '18 at 20:08












$begingroup$
"$20 *$" means "$20 times$" (= 20 times what follows). "20 stars" would also be eligible in this Xmas time...
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Dec 19 '18 at 20:59






$begingroup$
"$20 *$" means "$20 times$" (= 20 times what follows). "20 stars" would also be eligible in this Xmas time...
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Dec 19 '18 at 20:59














$begingroup$
Using the fact that $log a + log b = log ab$, the easiest way to enter this on your calculator is to type the value of f, $*$, the value of d, $=$. Then $log$ (I'm not sure what base this log is supposed to be with respect to, you may have adjust) and $=$ again. Then multiply by $20$ (and $=$ again). Finally, add 36.6 and hit $=$. This order will save you from any difficulties coming from calculators not always respecting order of operations in the way you expect them to.It also saves you a few keystrokes.
$endgroup$
– Aaron
Dec 20 '18 at 3:18




$begingroup$
Using the fact that $log a + log b = log ab$, the easiest way to enter this on your calculator is to type the value of f, $*$, the value of d, $=$. Then $log$ (I'm not sure what base this log is supposed to be with respect to, you may have adjust) and $=$ again. Then multiply by $20$ (and $=$ again). Finally, add 36.6 and hit $=$. This order will save you from any difficulties coming from calculators not always respecting order of operations in the way you expect them to.It also saves you a few keystrokes.
$endgroup$
– Aaron
Dec 20 '18 at 3:18










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