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I have a question. Are any n linearly independent vectors in a vector space V with dimV=n a bases for V? why or why not? How can I be sure that they span the vector space V? I'm asking this because I wish to prove that for any given Matrix of size n x n over a field F, if it has n distinct eigenvalues then it is diagonalisable. So if I consider the linear transformation associated with the the matrix A, T: $F^n--->F^n$ then dim$F^n$=n. But i'm not sure how to proceed after that, may someone please help? The question I asked, I think should help me because that would mean that the number of distinct eigenvalues is n and so is dim$F^n$, but even if that was the case, then i'm not sure how to proceed, may someone please help?










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    I have a question. Are any n linearly independent vectors in a vector space V with dimV=n a bases for V? why or why not? How can I be sure that they span the vector space V? I'm asking this because I wish to prove that for any given Matrix of size n x n over a field F, if it has n distinct eigenvalues then it is diagonalisable. So if I consider the linear transformation associated with the the matrix A, T: $F^n--->F^n$ then dim$F^n$=n. But i'm not sure how to proceed after that, may someone please help? The question I asked, I think should help me because that would mean that the number of distinct eigenvalues is n and so is dim$F^n$, but even if that was the case, then i'm not sure how to proceed, may someone please help?










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      I have a question. Are any n linearly independent vectors in a vector space V with dimV=n a bases for V? why or why not? How can I be sure that they span the vector space V? I'm asking this because I wish to prove that for any given Matrix of size n x n over a field F, if it has n distinct eigenvalues then it is diagonalisable. So if I consider the linear transformation associated with the the matrix A, T: $F^n--->F^n$ then dim$F^n$=n. But i'm not sure how to proceed after that, may someone please help? The question I asked, I think should help me because that would mean that the number of distinct eigenvalues is n and so is dim$F^n$, but even if that was the case, then i'm not sure how to proceed, may someone please help?










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      I have a question. Are any n linearly independent vectors in a vector space V with dimV=n a bases for V? why or why not? How can I be sure that they span the vector space V? I'm asking this because I wish to prove that for any given Matrix of size n x n over a field F, if it has n distinct eigenvalues then it is diagonalisable. So if I consider the linear transformation associated with the the matrix A, T: $F^n--->F^n$ then dim$F^n$=n. But i'm not sure how to proceed after that, may someone please help? The question I asked, I think should help me because that would mean that the number of distinct eigenvalues is n and so is dim$F^n$, but even if that was the case, then i'm not sure how to proceed, may someone please help?







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          That depends upon the facts that you can use. If you can use the fact that, in a $n$-dimensional space, any set with more that $n$ vectors is linearly dependent, that's easy. If a set $S$ has exactly $n$ elements and $S$ is linearly independent, suppose that $langle Srangle$ is nor the whole $V$. Take $win Vsetminuslangle Srangle$. Then no element of $Scup{w}$ can be written as a linear combination of the other elements of that set. Therefore, $Scup{w}$ is linearly independent. So, a contradiction is reached.






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          • Oh, so I can prove it in the following way: Suppose the span of the n linearly independent vectors does not equal to the n-dimensional vector space, that means I can add a number of vectors in the set of the linearly independent vectors, but I have reached a contradiction because any collection of m>n vectors is linearly dependent, am I correct?
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          • Yes, that would be correct.
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          • Thank you very much, that was very helpful!
            – maths researcher
            Nov 24 at 21:22










          • @mathsresearcher If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
            – José Carlos Santos
            Nov 24 at 21:26










          • I just did, thanks again.
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          If $V_n$ is a set of $n$ linearly independent vectors of $V$ and $V$ is a n-dimensional vector space, then these $n$ vectors will span the space. This follows as elementarily as it sounds, as $n$ linearly independent vectors belonging to a space with $n$ dimensions means you have one elemental for every dimension of that space that a combination of them could build any element of the space.






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            From the definition of a basis, a subset $B$ is a basis of space $V$ if its vector components are linearly independent and span $V$.
            To check the span requirement, any vector in $V$ should be a linear combination of all vectors in $B$.






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            • But how can I prove that any any set with linearly independent vectors of size n span the vector space with dimension n?
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            That depends upon the facts that you can use. If you can use the fact that, in a $n$-dimensional space, any set with more that $n$ vectors is linearly dependent, that's easy. If a set $S$ has exactly $n$ elements and $S$ is linearly independent, suppose that $langle Srangle$ is nor the whole $V$. Take $win Vsetminuslangle Srangle$. Then no element of $Scup{w}$ can be written as a linear combination of the other elements of that set. Therefore, $Scup{w}$ is linearly independent. So, a contradiction is reached.






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            • Oh, so I can prove it in the following way: Suppose the span of the n linearly independent vectors does not equal to the n-dimensional vector space, that means I can add a number of vectors in the set of the linearly independent vectors, but I have reached a contradiction because any collection of m>n vectors is linearly dependent, am I correct?
              – maths researcher
              Nov 24 at 21:21










            • Yes, that would be correct.
              – José Carlos Santos
              Nov 24 at 21:22










            • Thank you very much, that was very helpful!
              – maths researcher
              Nov 24 at 21:22










            • @mathsresearcher If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
              – José Carlos Santos
              Nov 24 at 21:26










            • I just did, thanks again.
              – maths researcher
              Nov 24 at 21:27


















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            That depends upon the facts that you can use. If you can use the fact that, in a $n$-dimensional space, any set with more that $n$ vectors is linearly dependent, that's easy. If a set $S$ has exactly $n$ elements and $S$ is linearly independent, suppose that $langle Srangle$ is nor the whole $V$. Take $win Vsetminuslangle Srangle$. Then no element of $Scup{w}$ can be written as a linear combination of the other elements of that set. Therefore, $Scup{w}$ is linearly independent. So, a contradiction is reached.






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            • Oh, so I can prove it in the following way: Suppose the span of the n linearly independent vectors does not equal to the n-dimensional vector space, that means I can add a number of vectors in the set of the linearly independent vectors, but I have reached a contradiction because any collection of m>n vectors is linearly dependent, am I correct?
              – maths researcher
              Nov 24 at 21:21










            • Yes, that would be correct.
              – José Carlos Santos
              Nov 24 at 21:22










            • Thank you very much, that was very helpful!
              – maths researcher
              Nov 24 at 21:22










            • @mathsresearcher If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
              – José Carlos Santos
              Nov 24 at 21:26










            • I just did, thanks again.
              – maths researcher
              Nov 24 at 21:27
















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            That depends upon the facts that you can use. If you can use the fact that, in a $n$-dimensional space, any set with more that $n$ vectors is linearly dependent, that's easy. If a set $S$ has exactly $n$ elements and $S$ is linearly independent, suppose that $langle Srangle$ is nor the whole $V$. Take $win Vsetminuslangle Srangle$. Then no element of $Scup{w}$ can be written as a linear combination of the other elements of that set. Therefore, $Scup{w}$ is linearly independent. So, a contradiction is reached.






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            That depends upon the facts that you can use. If you can use the fact that, in a $n$-dimensional space, any set with more that $n$ vectors is linearly dependent, that's easy. If a set $S$ has exactly $n$ elements and $S$ is linearly independent, suppose that $langle Srangle$ is nor the whole $V$. Take $win Vsetminuslangle Srangle$. Then no element of $Scup{w}$ can be written as a linear combination of the other elements of that set. Therefore, $Scup{w}$ is linearly independent. So, a contradiction is reached.







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            • Oh, so I can prove it in the following way: Suppose the span of the n linearly independent vectors does not equal to the n-dimensional vector space, that means I can add a number of vectors in the set of the linearly independent vectors, but I have reached a contradiction because any collection of m>n vectors is linearly dependent, am I correct?
              – maths researcher
              Nov 24 at 21:21










            • Yes, that would be correct.
              – José Carlos Santos
              Nov 24 at 21:22










            • Thank you very much, that was very helpful!
              – maths researcher
              Nov 24 at 21:22










            • @mathsresearcher If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
              – José Carlos Santos
              Nov 24 at 21:26










            • I just did, thanks again.
              – maths researcher
              Nov 24 at 21:27




















            • Oh, so I can prove it in the following way: Suppose the span of the n linearly independent vectors does not equal to the n-dimensional vector space, that means I can add a number of vectors in the set of the linearly independent vectors, but I have reached a contradiction because any collection of m>n vectors is linearly dependent, am I correct?
              – maths researcher
              Nov 24 at 21:21










            • Yes, that would be correct.
              – José Carlos Santos
              Nov 24 at 21:22










            • Thank you very much, that was very helpful!
              – maths researcher
              Nov 24 at 21:22










            • @mathsresearcher If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
              – José Carlos Santos
              Nov 24 at 21:26










            • I just did, thanks again.
              – maths researcher
              Nov 24 at 21:27


















            Oh, so I can prove it in the following way: Suppose the span of the n linearly independent vectors does not equal to the n-dimensional vector space, that means I can add a number of vectors in the set of the linearly independent vectors, but I have reached a contradiction because any collection of m>n vectors is linearly dependent, am I correct?
            – maths researcher
            Nov 24 at 21:21




            Oh, so I can prove it in the following way: Suppose the span of the n linearly independent vectors does not equal to the n-dimensional vector space, that means I can add a number of vectors in the set of the linearly independent vectors, but I have reached a contradiction because any collection of m>n vectors is linearly dependent, am I correct?
            – maths researcher
            Nov 24 at 21:21












            Yes, that would be correct.
            – José Carlos Santos
            Nov 24 at 21:22




            Yes, that would be correct.
            – José Carlos Santos
            Nov 24 at 21:22












            Thank you very much, that was very helpful!
            – maths researcher
            Nov 24 at 21:22




            Thank you very much, that was very helpful!
            – maths researcher
            Nov 24 at 21:22












            @mathsresearcher If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
            – José Carlos Santos
            Nov 24 at 21:26




            @mathsresearcher If my answer was useful, perhaps that you could mark it as the accepted one.
            – José Carlos Santos
            Nov 24 at 21:26












            I just did, thanks again.
            – maths researcher
            Nov 24 at 21:27






            I just did, thanks again.
            – maths researcher
            Nov 24 at 21:27













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            If $V_n$ is a set of $n$ linearly independent vectors of $V$ and $V$ is a n-dimensional vector space, then these $n$ vectors will span the space. This follows as elementarily as it sounds, as $n$ linearly independent vectors belonging to a space with $n$ dimensions means you have one elemental for every dimension of that space that a combination of them could build any element of the space.






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              If $V_n$ is a set of $n$ linearly independent vectors of $V$ and $V$ is a n-dimensional vector space, then these $n$ vectors will span the space. This follows as elementarily as it sounds, as $n$ linearly independent vectors belonging to a space with $n$ dimensions means you have one elemental for every dimension of that space that a combination of them could build any element of the space.






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                If $V_n$ is a set of $n$ linearly independent vectors of $V$ and $V$ is a n-dimensional vector space, then these $n$ vectors will span the space. This follows as elementarily as it sounds, as $n$ linearly independent vectors belonging to a space with $n$ dimensions means you have one elemental for every dimension of that space that a combination of them could build any element of the space.






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                If $V_n$ is a set of $n$ linearly independent vectors of $V$ and $V$ is a n-dimensional vector space, then these $n$ vectors will span the space. This follows as elementarily as it sounds, as $n$ linearly independent vectors belonging to a space with $n$ dimensions means you have one elemental for every dimension of that space that a combination of them could build any element of the space.







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                    From the definition of a basis, a subset $B$ is a basis of space $V$ if its vector components are linearly independent and span $V$.
                    To check the span requirement, any vector in $V$ should be a linear combination of all vectors in $B$.






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                    • But how can I prove that any any set with linearly independent vectors of size n span the vector space with dimension n?
                      – maths researcher
                      Nov 24 at 21:17
















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                    From the definition of a basis, a subset $B$ is a basis of space $V$ if its vector components are linearly independent and span $V$.
                    To check the span requirement, any vector in $V$ should be a linear combination of all vectors in $B$.






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                    • But how can I prove that any any set with linearly independent vectors of size n span the vector space with dimension n?
                      – maths researcher
                      Nov 24 at 21:17














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                    From the definition of a basis, a subset $B$ is a basis of space $V$ if its vector components are linearly independent and span $V$.
                    To check the span requirement, any vector in $V$ should be a linear combination of all vectors in $B$.






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                    From the definition of a basis, a subset $B$ is a basis of space $V$ if its vector components are linearly independent and span $V$.
                    To check the span requirement, any vector in $V$ should be a linear combination of all vectors in $B$.







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                    • But how can I prove that any any set with linearly independent vectors of size n span the vector space with dimension n?
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                    • But how can I prove that any any set with linearly independent vectors of size n span the vector space with dimension n?
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                    But how can I prove that any any set with linearly independent vectors of size n span the vector space with dimension n?
                    – maths researcher
                    Nov 24 at 21:17




                    But how can I prove that any any set with linearly independent vectors of size n span the vector space with dimension n?
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                    Nov 24 at 21:17



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