Resolution exercises on complex numbers
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How do I solve this equation in the field of complex numbers?:
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 $$
My solutions are:
$$z_1 = 0$$
$$z_2 = -1$$
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How do I solve this equation in the field of complex numbers?:
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 $$
My solutions are:
$$z_1 = 0$$
$$z_2 = -1$$
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$-1$ is not a solution as you would get $1+1-1not =0$
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How do I solve this equation in the field of complex numbers?:
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 $$
My solutions are:
$$z_1 = 0$$
$$z_2 = -1$$
complex-numbers
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How do I solve this equation in the field of complex numbers?:
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 $$
My solutions are:
$$z_1 = 0$$
$$z_2 = -1$$
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complex-numbers
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Welcome to MSE. It will be more likely that you will get an answer if you show us that you made an effort. This should be added to the question rather than in the comments.
– José Carlos Santos
Nov 21 at 7:37
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$-1$ is not a solution as you would get $1+1-1not =0$
– Henry
Nov 21 at 11:20
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Welcome to MSE. It will be more likely that you will get an answer if you show us that you made an effort. This should be added to the question rather than in the comments.
– José Carlos Santos
Nov 21 at 7:37
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$-1$ is not a solution as you would get $1+1-1not =0$
– Henry
Nov 21 at 11:20
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Welcome to MSE. It will be more likely that you will get an answer if you show us that you made an effort. This should be added to the question rather than in the comments.
– José Carlos Santos
Nov 21 at 7:37
Welcome to MSE. It will be more likely that you will get an answer if you show us that you made an effort. This should be added to the question rather than in the comments.
– José Carlos Santos
Nov 21 at 7:37
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$-1$ is not a solution as you would get $1+1-1not =0$
– Henry
Nov 21 at 11:20
$-1$ is not a solution as you would get $1+1-1not =0$
– Henry
Nov 21 at 11:20
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$$z=dfrac{|z|^2}{|z|-1}$$ which is real
If $z>0,|z|=+z$ $$0=z^2-z^2+ziff z=0$$ which is untenable
If $zle0,|z|=-z$ $$0=z^2+z^2+z=z(2z+1)$$
Your first step only works when $|z| ne 1$, so I think you need to explicitly/separately rule out the case that $|z| = 1$. (This isn't too difficult, but I think it's important, if only because the OP believes that $z = -1$ is a solution.)
– ruakh
Nov 21 at 23:29
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Observe that $z=0$ is a solution of the equation
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0.$$
( $z=-1$ is not a solution !)
Therefore let $z ne 0$ be a further solution of this equation. We get , since $|z|^2=z overline{z}:$
$overline{z}-|z|+1=0$. This gives $overline{z}=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.Hence
$z=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.
If $z>0$ , we have $z=z-1$, which is impossible. Hence $z<0$ and then $z=-1/2$.
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WLOG $z=r(cos t+isin t)$ where $r>0,t$ are real
$$r(r-r(cos t+isin t)+(cos t+isin t))=0$$
If $rne0,$ equating the real & the imaginary parts
$r-rcos t+cos t=0=(1-r)sin t$
Case $#1:$
If $r=1,1=0$ which is untenable
If $sin t=0,$
Case $#2A:cos t=1,r=0$ which is untenable
Case $#2A:cos t=-1,r+r-1=0iff r=?$
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You may also proceed as follows:
- Rewrite the equation to
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 Leftrightarrow boxed{|z|^2 = z(|z|-1)}$$
- Therefore, $color{blue}{z}$ must be $color{blue}{mbox{real}}$ and so we have $color{blue}{|z|^2 = z^2}$.
- Noting the solution $boxed{z = 0}$ we get
$$|z|^2 = z(|z|-1) stackrel{z in mathbb{R}, z neq 0}{Leftrightarrow}z = |z|-1 Rightarrow boxed{z = -frac{1}{2}}$$
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Let $r = e^{itheta}$.
We get $r^2 - re^{itheta}cdot r + re^{itheta} = 0$.
Factorising, we get $r = 0$, giving $z = 0$ as one solution or:
$r - re^{itheta} + e^{itheta} = 0$
$e^{itheta} = frac{r}{r-1}$
From the last equation, the magnitude of the LHS is equal to one. From the RHS, $e^{itheta} in mathbb{R}$. Hence $e^{itheta} = pm 1$.
$frac{r}{r-1} = 1$ gives no solution, but $frac{r}{r-1} = -1 implies r = frac 12$. Since $e^{itheta} = -1$ that gives $z = -frac 12$.
Therefore the two solutions are $z = 0$ and $z = -frac 12$.
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5 Answers
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$$z=dfrac{|z|^2}{|z|-1}$$ which is real
If $z>0,|z|=+z$ $$0=z^2-z^2+ziff z=0$$ which is untenable
If $zle0,|z|=-z$ $$0=z^2+z^2+z=z(2z+1)$$
Your first step only works when $|z| ne 1$, so I think you need to explicitly/separately rule out the case that $|z| = 1$. (This isn't too difficult, but I think it's important, if only because the OP believes that $z = -1$ is a solution.)
– ruakh
Nov 21 at 23:29
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$$z=dfrac{|z|^2}{|z|-1}$$ which is real
If $z>0,|z|=+z$ $$0=z^2-z^2+ziff z=0$$ which is untenable
If $zle0,|z|=-z$ $$0=z^2+z^2+z=z(2z+1)$$
Your first step only works when $|z| ne 1$, so I think you need to explicitly/separately rule out the case that $|z| = 1$. (This isn't too difficult, but I think it's important, if only because the OP believes that $z = -1$ is a solution.)
– ruakh
Nov 21 at 23:29
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$$z=dfrac{|z|^2}{|z|-1}$$ which is real
If $z>0,|z|=+z$ $$0=z^2-z^2+ziff z=0$$ which is untenable
If $zle0,|z|=-z$ $$0=z^2+z^2+z=z(2z+1)$$
$$z=dfrac{|z|^2}{|z|-1}$$ which is real
If $z>0,|z|=+z$ $$0=z^2-z^2+ziff z=0$$ which is untenable
If $zle0,|z|=-z$ $$0=z^2+z^2+z=z(2z+1)$$
edited Nov 21 at 13:51
answered Nov 21 at 7:58
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Your first step only works when $|z| ne 1$, so I think you need to explicitly/separately rule out the case that $|z| = 1$. (This isn't too difficult, but I think it's important, if only because the OP believes that $z = -1$ is a solution.)
– ruakh
Nov 21 at 23:29
add a comment |
Your first step only works when $|z| ne 1$, so I think you need to explicitly/separately rule out the case that $|z| = 1$. (This isn't too difficult, but I think it's important, if only because the OP believes that $z = -1$ is a solution.)
– ruakh
Nov 21 at 23:29
Your first step only works when $|z| ne 1$, so I think you need to explicitly/separately rule out the case that $|z| = 1$. (This isn't too difficult, but I think it's important, if only because the OP believes that $z = -1$ is a solution.)
– ruakh
Nov 21 at 23:29
Your first step only works when $|z| ne 1$, so I think you need to explicitly/separately rule out the case that $|z| = 1$. (This isn't too difficult, but I think it's important, if only because the OP believes that $z = -1$ is a solution.)
– ruakh
Nov 21 at 23:29
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Observe that $z=0$ is a solution of the equation
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0.$$
( $z=-1$ is not a solution !)
Therefore let $z ne 0$ be a further solution of this equation. We get , since $|z|^2=z overline{z}:$
$overline{z}-|z|+1=0$. This gives $overline{z}=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.Hence
$z=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.
If $z>0$ , we have $z=z-1$, which is impossible. Hence $z<0$ and then $z=-1/2$.
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Observe that $z=0$ is a solution of the equation
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0.$$
( $z=-1$ is not a solution !)
Therefore let $z ne 0$ be a further solution of this equation. We get , since $|z|^2=z overline{z}:$
$overline{z}-|z|+1=0$. This gives $overline{z}=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.Hence
$z=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.
If $z>0$ , we have $z=z-1$, which is impossible. Hence $z<0$ and then $z=-1/2$.
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Observe that $z=0$ is a solution of the equation
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0.$$
( $z=-1$ is not a solution !)
Therefore let $z ne 0$ be a further solution of this equation. We get , since $|z|^2=z overline{z}:$
$overline{z}-|z|+1=0$. This gives $overline{z}=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.Hence
$z=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.
If $z>0$ , we have $z=z-1$, which is impossible. Hence $z<0$ and then $z=-1/2$.
Observe that $z=0$ is a solution of the equation
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0.$$
( $z=-1$ is not a solution !)
Therefore let $z ne 0$ be a further solution of this equation. We get , since $|z|^2=z overline{z}:$
$overline{z}-|z|+1=0$. This gives $overline{z}=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.Hence
$z=|z|-1 in mathbb R$.
If $z>0$ , we have $z=z-1$, which is impossible. Hence $z<0$ and then $z=-1/2$.
answered Nov 21 at 7:42
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WLOG $z=r(cos t+isin t)$ where $r>0,t$ are real
$$r(r-r(cos t+isin t)+(cos t+isin t))=0$$
If $rne0,$ equating the real & the imaginary parts
$r-rcos t+cos t=0=(1-r)sin t$
Case $#1:$
If $r=1,1=0$ which is untenable
If $sin t=0,$
Case $#2A:cos t=1,r=0$ which is untenable
Case $#2A:cos t=-1,r+r-1=0iff r=?$
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WLOG $z=r(cos t+isin t)$ where $r>0,t$ are real
$$r(r-r(cos t+isin t)+(cos t+isin t))=0$$
If $rne0,$ equating the real & the imaginary parts
$r-rcos t+cos t=0=(1-r)sin t$
Case $#1:$
If $r=1,1=0$ which is untenable
If $sin t=0,$
Case $#2A:cos t=1,r=0$ which is untenable
Case $#2A:cos t=-1,r+r-1=0iff r=?$
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WLOG $z=r(cos t+isin t)$ where $r>0,t$ are real
$$r(r-r(cos t+isin t)+(cos t+isin t))=0$$
If $rne0,$ equating the real & the imaginary parts
$r-rcos t+cos t=0=(1-r)sin t$
Case $#1:$
If $r=1,1=0$ which is untenable
If $sin t=0,$
Case $#2A:cos t=1,r=0$ which is untenable
Case $#2A:cos t=-1,r+r-1=0iff r=?$
WLOG $z=r(cos t+isin t)$ where $r>0,t$ are real
$$r(r-r(cos t+isin t)+(cos t+isin t))=0$$
If $rne0,$ equating the real & the imaginary parts
$r-rcos t+cos t=0=(1-r)sin t$
Case $#1:$
If $r=1,1=0$ which is untenable
If $sin t=0,$
Case $#2A:cos t=1,r=0$ which is untenable
Case $#2A:cos t=-1,r+r-1=0iff r=?$
answered Nov 21 at 7:42
lab bhattacharjee
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You may also proceed as follows:
- Rewrite the equation to
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 Leftrightarrow boxed{|z|^2 = z(|z|-1)}$$
- Therefore, $color{blue}{z}$ must be $color{blue}{mbox{real}}$ and so we have $color{blue}{|z|^2 = z^2}$.
- Noting the solution $boxed{z = 0}$ we get
$$|z|^2 = z(|z|-1) stackrel{z in mathbb{R}, z neq 0}{Leftrightarrow}z = |z|-1 Rightarrow boxed{z = -frac{1}{2}}$$
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You may also proceed as follows:
- Rewrite the equation to
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 Leftrightarrow boxed{|z|^2 = z(|z|-1)}$$
- Therefore, $color{blue}{z}$ must be $color{blue}{mbox{real}}$ and so we have $color{blue}{|z|^2 = z^2}$.
- Noting the solution $boxed{z = 0}$ we get
$$|z|^2 = z(|z|-1) stackrel{z in mathbb{R}, z neq 0}{Leftrightarrow}z = |z|-1 Rightarrow boxed{z = -frac{1}{2}}$$
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You may also proceed as follows:
- Rewrite the equation to
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 Leftrightarrow boxed{|z|^2 = z(|z|-1)}$$
- Therefore, $color{blue}{z}$ must be $color{blue}{mbox{real}}$ and so we have $color{blue}{|z|^2 = z^2}$.
- Noting the solution $boxed{z = 0}$ we get
$$|z|^2 = z(|z|-1) stackrel{z in mathbb{R}, z neq 0}{Leftrightarrow}z = |z|-1 Rightarrow boxed{z = -frac{1}{2}}$$
You may also proceed as follows:
- Rewrite the equation to
$$|z|^2 - z|z| + z = 0 Leftrightarrow boxed{|z|^2 = z(|z|-1)}$$
- Therefore, $color{blue}{z}$ must be $color{blue}{mbox{real}}$ and so we have $color{blue}{|z|^2 = z^2}$.
- Noting the solution $boxed{z = 0}$ we get
$$|z|^2 = z(|z|-1) stackrel{z in mathbb{R}, z neq 0}{Leftrightarrow}z = |z|-1 Rightarrow boxed{z = -frac{1}{2}}$$
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answered Nov 21 at 8:29
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Let $r = e^{itheta}$.
We get $r^2 - re^{itheta}cdot r + re^{itheta} = 0$.
Factorising, we get $r = 0$, giving $z = 0$ as one solution or:
$r - re^{itheta} + e^{itheta} = 0$
$e^{itheta} = frac{r}{r-1}$
From the last equation, the magnitude of the LHS is equal to one. From the RHS, $e^{itheta} in mathbb{R}$. Hence $e^{itheta} = pm 1$.
$frac{r}{r-1} = 1$ gives no solution, but $frac{r}{r-1} = -1 implies r = frac 12$. Since $e^{itheta} = -1$ that gives $z = -frac 12$.
Therefore the two solutions are $z = 0$ and $z = -frac 12$.
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Let $r = e^{itheta}$.
We get $r^2 - re^{itheta}cdot r + re^{itheta} = 0$.
Factorising, we get $r = 0$, giving $z = 0$ as one solution or:
$r - re^{itheta} + e^{itheta} = 0$
$e^{itheta} = frac{r}{r-1}$
From the last equation, the magnitude of the LHS is equal to one. From the RHS, $e^{itheta} in mathbb{R}$. Hence $e^{itheta} = pm 1$.
$frac{r}{r-1} = 1$ gives no solution, but $frac{r}{r-1} = -1 implies r = frac 12$. Since $e^{itheta} = -1$ that gives $z = -frac 12$.
Therefore the two solutions are $z = 0$ and $z = -frac 12$.
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Let $r = e^{itheta}$.
We get $r^2 - re^{itheta}cdot r + re^{itheta} = 0$.
Factorising, we get $r = 0$, giving $z = 0$ as one solution or:
$r - re^{itheta} + e^{itheta} = 0$
$e^{itheta} = frac{r}{r-1}$
From the last equation, the magnitude of the LHS is equal to one. From the RHS, $e^{itheta} in mathbb{R}$. Hence $e^{itheta} = pm 1$.
$frac{r}{r-1} = 1$ gives no solution, but $frac{r}{r-1} = -1 implies r = frac 12$. Since $e^{itheta} = -1$ that gives $z = -frac 12$.
Therefore the two solutions are $z = 0$ and $z = -frac 12$.
Let $r = e^{itheta}$.
We get $r^2 - re^{itheta}cdot r + re^{itheta} = 0$.
Factorising, we get $r = 0$, giving $z = 0$ as one solution or:
$r - re^{itheta} + e^{itheta} = 0$
$e^{itheta} = frac{r}{r-1}$
From the last equation, the magnitude of the LHS is equal to one. From the RHS, $e^{itheta} in mathbb{R}$. Hence $e^{itheta} = pm 1$.
$frac{r}{r-1} = 1$ gives no solution, but $frac{r}{r-1} = -1 implies r = frac 12$. Since $e^{itheta} = -1$ that gives $z = -frac 12$.
Therefore the two solutions are $z = 0$ and $z = -frac 12$.
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$-1$ is not a solution as you would get $1+1-1not =0$
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