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The temperatures in Chicago and Detroit are $x^0$ and $y^0$, respectively. These temperatures are not assumed to be independent; namely, we are given: 1) $P(x^0=70)$, 2) $P(y^0 =70)$ and $P(max(x^0,y^0)=70)$. Determine $P(min(x^0,y^0)=70)$.










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    The temperatures in Chicago and Detroit are $x^0$ and $y^0$, respectively. These temperatures are not assumed to be independent; namely, we are given: 1) $P(x^0=70)$, 2) $P(y^0 =70)$ and $P(max(x^0,y^0)=70)$. Determine $P(min(x^0,y^0)=70)$.










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      The temperatures in Chicago and Detroit are $x^0$ and $y^0$, respectively. These temperatures are not assumed to be independent; namely, we are given: 1) $P(x^0=70)$, 2) $P(y^0 =70)$ and $P(max(x^0,y^0)=70)$. Determine $P(min(x^0,y^0)=70)$.










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      The temperatures in Chicago and Detroit are $x^0$ and $y^0$, respectively. These temperatures are not assumed to be independent; namely, we are given: 1) $P(x^0=70)$, 2) $P(y^0 =70)$ and $P(max(x^0,y^0)=70)$. Determine $P(min(x^0,y^0)=70)$.







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          Basic approach. Rewrite $P(x = 70)$ as



          $$
          P(x = 70) = P(x = 70, y < 70) + P(x = 70, y = 70) + P(x = 70, y > 70)
          $$



          (do you see why this is true?) and rewrite $P(y = 70)$ similarly. In the same way, rewrite $P(max{x, y} = 70)$ as



          $$
          P(max{x, y} = 70) = P(x = 70, y < 70) + P(x < 70, y = 70) + P(x = 70, y = 70)
          $$



          (do you see why this is true?) and rewrite $P(min{x, y} = 70)$ similarly.



          The question then becomes: Express the expansion of $P(min{x, y} = 70)$ as a linear combination of the expansions of $P(x = 70)$, $P(y = 70)$, and $P(max{x, y} = 70)$. That is, add and subtract copies of those three quantities, in such a way as to obtain $P(min{x, y} = 70)$.






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          • So is the solution: $P(X=70)+P(Y=70)-P(max{X,Y}=70)$?
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          Basic approach. Rewrite $P(x = 70)$ as



          $$
          P(x = 70) = P(x = 70, y < 70) + P(x = 70, y = 70) + P(x = 70, y > 70)
          $$



          (do you see why this is true?) and rewrite $P(y = 70)$ similarly. In the same way, rewrite $P(max{x, y} = 70)$ as



          $$
          P(max{x, y} = 70) = P(x = 70, y < 70) + P(x < 70, y = 70) + P(x = 70, y = 70)
          $$



          (do you see why this is true?) and rewrite $P(min{x, y} = 70)$ similarly.



          The question then becomes: Express the expansion of $P(min{x, y} = 70)$ as a linear combination of the expansions of $P(x = 70)$, $P(y = 70)$, and $P(max{x, y} = 70)$. That is, add and subtract copies of those three quantities, in such a way as to obtain $P(min{x, y} = 70)$.






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          • So is the solution: $P(X=70)+P(Y=70)-P(max{X,Y}=70)$?
            – mathnoob
            Nov 15 at 23:32

















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          Basic approach. Rewrite $P(x = 70)$ as



          $$
          P(x = 70) = P(x = 70, y < 70) + P(x = 70, y = 70) + P(x = 70, y > 70)
          $$



          (do you see why this is true?) and rewrite $P(y = 70)$ similarly. In the same way, rewrite $P(max{x, y} = 70)$ as



          $$
          P(max{x, y} = 70) = P(x = 70, y < 70) + P(x < 70, y = 70) + P(x = 70, y = 70)
          $$



          (do you see why this is true?) and rewrite $P(min{x, y} = 70)$ similarly.



          The question then becomes: Express the expansion of $P(min{x, y} = 70)$ as a linear combination of the expansions of $P(x = 70)$, $P(y = 70)$, and $P(max{x, y} = 70)$. That is, add and subtract copies of those three quantities, in such a way as to obtain $P(min{x, y} = 70)$.






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          • So is the solution: $P(X=70)+P(Y=70)-P(max{X,Y}=70)$?
            – mathnoob
            Nov 15 at 23:32















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          Basic approach. Rewrite $P(x = 70)$ as



          $$
          P(x = 70) = P(x = 70, y < 70) + P(x = 70, y = 70) + P(x = 70, y > 70)
          $$



          (do you see why this is true?) and rewrite $P(y = 70)$ similarly. In the same way, rewrite $P(max{x, y} = 70)$ as



          $$
          P(max{x, y} = 70) = P(x = 70, y < 70) + P(x < 70, y = 70) + P(x = 70, y = 70)
          $$



          (do you see why this is true?) and rewrite $P(min{x, y} = 70)$ similarly.



          The question then becomes: Express the expansion of $P(min{x, y} = 70)$ as a linear combination of the expansions of $P(x = 70)$, $P(y = 70)$, and $P(max{x, y} = 70)$. That is, add and subtract copies of those three quantities, in such a way as to obtain $P(min{x, y} = 70)$.






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          Basic approach. Rewrite $P(x = 70)$ as



          $$
          P(x = 70) = P(x = 70, y < 70) + P(x = 70, y = 70) + P(x = 70, y > 70)
          $$



          (do you see why this is true?) and rewrite $P(y = 70)$ similarly. In the same way, rewrite $P(max{x, y} = 70)$ as



          $$
          P(max{x, y} = 70) = P(x = 70, y < 70) + P(x < 70, y = 70) + P(x = 70, y = 70)
          $$



          (do you see why this is true?) and rewrite $P(min{x, y} = 70)$ similarly.



          The question then becomes: Express the expansion of $P(min{x, y} = 70)$ as a linear combination of the expansions of $P(x = 70)$, $P(y = 70)$, and $P(max{x, y} = 70)$. That is, add and subtract copies of those three quantities, in such a way as to obtain $P(min{x, y} = 70)$.







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          answered Nov 14 at 23:54









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          • So is the solution: $P(X=70)+P(Y=70)-P(max{X,Y}=70)$?
            – mathnoob
            Nov 15 at 23:32




















          • So is the solution: $P(X=70)+P(Y=70)-P(max{X,Y}=70)$?
            – mathnoob
            Nov 15 at 23:32


















          So is the solution: $P(X=70)+P(Y=70)-P(max{X,Y}=70)$?
          – mathnoob
          Nov 15 at 23:32






          So is the solution: $P(X=70)+P(Y=70)-P(max{X,Y}=70)$?
          – mathnoob
          Nov 15 at 23:32




















           

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