Why was Windows for Workgroups 3.11 available for quite a long time?





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As far as I know, Windows for Workgroups 3.11 was released before Windows 95, and went obsolete on the last day of 2001. However, it was still made available until November 2008. Why was that so?



I mean, online sources say that that was so because it was popular among embedded systems. However, for such systems you had Windows XP and Vista Embedded (Compact) versions too, so why was it still available for that long?










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  • My guess would be that embedded systems with Win 3.1 would require MUCH less system resources than XP or Vista, hence the continued support for that long.

    – Lawrence
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  • Cheapness, at the time Embedded programmers tended to stagnate on a particular OS. 16 Bit Win 3.11 as opposed to upgrading to the next thing and adopting 32 bit programming. We went through the same thing on the Win95 to WinXP hump when we escaped DOS based underpinnings with a 32 bit environment and moved to basically NT kernel and a full 32 bit environment.

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  • This question is not possible to answer unless you work at Microsoft. The simplest explaination is that enough people with enough money wanted it to be available

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As far as I know, Windows for Workgroups 3.11 was released before Windows 95, and went obsolete on the last day of 2001. However, it was still made available until November 2008. Why was that so?



I mean, online sources say that that was so because it was popular among embedded systems. However, for such systems you had Windows XP and Vista Embedded (Compact) versions too, so why was it still available for that long?










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  • My guess would be that embedded systems with Win 3.1 would require MUCH less system resources than XP or Vista, hence the continued support for that long.

    – Lawrence
    Dec 30 '13 at 6:14











  • Cheapness, at the time Embedded programmers tended to stagnate on a particular OS. 16 Bit Win 3.11 as opposed to upgrading to the next thing and adopting 32 bit programming. We went through the same thing on the Win95 to WinXP hump when we escaped DOS based underpinnings with a 32 bit environment and moved to basically NT kernel and a full 32 bit environment.

    – Fiasco Labs
    Dec 30 '13 at 6:56













  • This question is not possible to answer unless you work at Microsoft. The simplest explaination is that enough people with enough money wanted it to be available

    – Ramhound
    Dec 30 '13 at 12:01














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As far as I know, Windows for Workgroups 3.11 was released before Windows 95, and went obsolete on the last day of 2001. However, it was still made available until November 2008. Why was that so?



I mean, online sources say that that was so because it was popular among embedded systems. However, for such systems you had Windows XP and Vista Embedded (Compact) versions too, so why was it still available for that long?










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As far as I know, Windows for Workgroups 3.11 was released before Windows 95, and went obsolete on the last day of 2001. However, it was still made available until November 2008. Why was that so?



I mean, online sources say that that was so because it was popular among embedded systems. However, for such systems you had Windows XP and Vista Embedded (Compact) versions too, so why was it still available for that long?







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  • My guess would be that embedded systems with Win 3.1 would require MUCH less system resources than XP or Vista, hence the continued support for that long.

    – Lawrence
    Dec 30 '13 at 6:14











  • Cheapness, at the time Embedded programmers tended to stagnate on a particular OS. 16 Bit Win 3.11 as opposed to upgrading to the next thing and adopting 32 bit programming. We went through the same thing on the Win95 to WinXP hump when we escaped DOS based underpinnings with a 32 bit environment and moved to basically NT kernel and a full 32 bit environment.

    – Fiasco Labs
    Dec 30 '13 at 6:56













  • This question is not possible to answer unless you work at Microsoft. The simplest explaination is that enough people with enough money wanted it to be available

    – Ramhound
    Dec 30 '13 at 12:01



















  • My guess would be that embedded systems with Win 3.1 would require MUCH less system resources than XP or Vista, hence the continued support for that long.

    – Lawrence
    Dec 30 '13 at 6:14











  • Cheapness, at the time Embedded programmers tended to stagnate on a particular OS. 16 Bit Win 3.11 as opposed to upgrading to the next thing and adopting 32 bit programming. We went through the same thing on the Win95 to WinXP hump when we escaped DOS based underpinnings with a 32 bit environment and moved to basically NT kernel and a full 32 bit environment.

    – Fiasco Labs
    Dec 30 '13 at 6:56













  • This question is not possible to answer unless you work at Microsoft. The simplest explaination is that enough people with enough money wanted it to be available

    – Ramhound
    Dec 30 '13 at 12:01

















My guess would be that embedded systems with Win 3.1 would require MUCH less system resources than XP or Vista, hence the continued support for that long.

– Lawrence
Dec 30 '13 at 6:14





My guess would be that embedded systems with Win 3.1 would require MUCH less system resources than XP or Vista, hence the continued support for that long.

– Lawrence
Dec 30 '13 at 6:14













Cheapness, at the time Embedded programmers tended to stagnate on a particular OS. 16 Bit Win 3.11 as opposed to upgrading to the next thing and adopting 32 bit programming. We went through the same thing on the Win95 to WinXP hump when we escaped DOS based underpinnings with a 32 bit environment and moved to basically NT kernel and a full 32 bit environment.

– Fiasco Labs
Dec 30 '13 at 6:56







Cheapness, at the time Embedded programmers tended to stagnate on a particular OS. 16 Bit Win 3.11 as opposed to upgrading to the next thing and adopting 32 bit programming. We went through the same thing on the Win95 to WinXP hump when we escaped DOS based underpinnings with a 32 bit environment and moved to basically NT kernel and a full 32 bit environment.

– Fiasco Labs
Dec 30 '13 at 6:56















This question is not possible to answer unless you work at Microsoft. The simplest explaination is that enough people with enough money wanted it to be available

– Ramhound
Dec 30 '13 at 12:01





This question is not possible to answer unless you work at Microsoft. The simplest explaination is that enough people with enough money wanted it to be available

– Ramhound
Dec 30 '13 at 12:01










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Windows for Workgroups 3.11 uses cooperative multitasking, meaning that once a program starts its turn on the CPU, it can continue running until it explicitly gives up control. Every newer version of Windows uses preemptive multitasking, where a program can be interrupted at any time.



If you're writing a program for an embedded system, you probably want the control and effectively realtime responsiveness that cooperative multitasking allows. If Microsoft had dropped WfW 3.11, users would have been forced to re-write their software, and they'd probably have re-written it for a dedicated embedded OS such as VxWorks or QNX rather than for some Microsoft product.






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    It runs on intel, MIPS, DEC Alpha, and PowerPC. If you bought a non-Intel platform with Microsoft software, you're pretty much stuck. I can think of several large POS and ticketing systems that still use 16-bit Windows because it isn't broken yet and the investment in a hardware upgrade is too daunting.






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      You are mixing up your Windows flavours there. Windows for Workgroups was DOS+Windows, not Windows NT. Windows NT is the one that used to be available for lots of processors.

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    Windows for Workgroups 3.11 uses cooperative multitasking, meaning that once a program starts its turn on the CPU, it can continue running until it explicitly gives up control. Every newer version of Windows uses preemptive multitasking, where a program can be interrupted at any time.



    If you're writing a program for an embedded system, you probably want the control and effectively realtime responsiveness that cooperative multitasking allows. If Microsoft had dropped WfW 3.11, users would have been forced to re-write their software, and they'd probably have re-written it for a dedicated embedded OS such as VxWorks or QNX rather than for some Microsoft product.






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      Windows for Workgroups 3.11 uses cooperative multitasking, meaning that once a program starts its turn on the CPU, it can continue running until it explicitly gives up control. Every newer version of Windows uses preemptive multitasking, where a program can be interrupted at any time.



      If you're writing a program for an embedded system, you probably want the control and effectively realtime responsiveness that cooperative multitasking allows. If Microsoft had dropped WfW 3.11, users would have been forced to re-write their software, and they'd probably have re-written it for a dedicated embedded OS such as VxWorks or QNX rather than for some Microsoft product.






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        Windows for Workgroups 3.11 uses cooperative multitasking, meaning that once a program starts its turn on the CPU, it can continue running until it explicitly gives up control. Every newer version of Windows uses preemptive multitasking, where a program can be interrupted at any time.



        If you're writing a program for an embedded system, you probably want the control and effectively realtime responsiveness that cooperative multitasking allows. If Microsoft had dropped WfW 3.11, users would have been forced to re-write their software, and they'd probably have re-written it for a dedicated embedded OS such as VxWorks or QNX rather than for some Microsoft product.






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        Windows for Workgroups 3.11 uses cooperative multitasking, meaning that once a program starts its turn on the CPU, it can continue running until it explicitly gives up control. Every newer version of Windows uses preemptive multitasking, where a program can be interrupted at any time.



        If you're writing a program for an embedded system, you probably want the control and effectively realtime responsiveness that cooperative multitasking allows. If Microsoft had dropped WfW 3.11, users would have been forced to re-write their software, and they'd probably have re-written it for a dedicated embedded OS such as VxWorks or QNX rather than for some Microsoft product.







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            It runs on intel, MIPS, DEC Alpha, and PowerPC. If you bought a non-Intel platform with Microsoft software, you're pretty much stuck. I can think of several large POS and ticketing systems that still use 16-bit Windows because it isn't broken yet and the investment in a hardware upgrade is too daunting.






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              You are mixing up your Windows flavours there. Windows for Workgroups was DOS+Windows, not Windows NT. Windows NT is the one that used to be available for lots of processors.

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            It runs on intel, MIPS, DEC Alpha, and PowerPC. If you bought a non-Intel platform with Microsoft software, you're pretty much stuck. I can think of several large POS and ticketing systems that still use 16-bit Windows because it isn't broken yet and the investment in a hardware upgrade is too daunting.






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              You are mixing up your Windows flavours there. Windows for Workgroups was DOS+Windows, not Windows NT. Windows NT is the one that used to be available for lots of processors.

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            It runs on intel, MIPS, DEC Alpha, and PowerPC. If you bought a non-Intel platform with Microsoft software, you're pretty much stuck. I can think of several large POS and ticketing systems that still use 16-bit Windows because it isn't broken yet and the investment in a hardware upgrade is too daunting.






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            It runs on intel, MIPS, DEC Alpha, and PowerPC. If you bought a non-Intel platform with Microsoft software, you're pretty much stuck. I can think of several large POS and ticketing systems that still use 16-bit Windows because it isn't broken yet and the investment in a hardware upgrade is too daunting.







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              You are mixing up your Windows flavours there. Windows for Workgroups was DOS+Windows, not Windows NT. Windows NT is the one that used to be available for lots of processors.

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              You are mixing up your Windows flavours there. Windows for Workgroups was DOS+Windows, not Windows NT. Windows NT is the one that used to be available for lots of processors.

              – JdeBP
              Dec 30 '13 at 16:41








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            You are mixing up your Windows flavours there. Windows for Workgroups was DOS+Windows, not Windows NT. Windows NT is the one that used to be available for lots of processors.

            – JdeBP
            Dec 30 '13 at 16:41





            You are mixing up your Windows flavours there. Windows for Workgroups was DOS+Windows, not Windows NT. Windows NT is the one that used to be available for lots of processors.

            – JdeBP
            Dec 30 '13 at 16:41


















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