Evaluate $sum_{n=1}^{infty} frac{2n+1}{(n^{2} +n)^{2}}$
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Evaluate $$sum_{n=1}^{infty} frac{2n+1}{(n^{2}+n)^{2}}.$$
I am getting two different results by using two different methods -
First Method
The above sum can be written as
begin{align}sum_{n=1}^{N} (1/n^{2} - 1/(n+1)^{2})&= 1 - 1/4 + 1/4 - 1/9 dots -1/(N+1)^{2}\ &= 1 - 1/(N+1)^{2} end{align}
Taking the limit as $Ntoinfty$, we have the the sum equal to $1$.
Second Method
Above sum is equal to -
begin{align}int_{1}^{infty} frac{2x+1}{(x^{2}+x)^{2}},dxend{align}
Put $x^2 + x = t$
$$int_{2}^{infty} dt/t^{2}$$
$=[-1/t]_{2}^{infty}$
$=1/2$
Why are these methods are giving different results?
real-analysis
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Evaluate $$sum_{n=1}^{infty} frac{2n+1}{(n^{2}+n)^{2}}.$$
I am getting two different results by using two different methods -
First Method
The above sum can be written as
begin{align}sum_{n=1}^{N} (1/n^{2} - 1/(n+1)^{2})&= 1 - 1/4 + 1/4 - 1/9 dots -1/(N+1)^{2}\ &= 1 - 1/(N+1)^{2} end{align}
Taking the limit as $Ntoinfty$, we have the the sum equal to $1$.
Second Method
Above sum is equal to -
begin{align}int_{1}^{infty} frac{2x+1}{(x^{2}+x)^{2}},dxend{align}
Put $x^2 + x = t$
$$int_{2}^{infty} dt/t^{2}$$
$=[-1/t]_{2}^{infty}$
$=1/2$
Why are these methods are giving different results?
real-analysis
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The sum and the integral are not equal. That is why you're getting different answers.
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– Clayton
Dec 24 '18 at 17:32
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For n=1, the first term would be $3/4$. You missed something in your second method.
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– Love Invariants
Dec 24 '18 at 17:34
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@Clayton By cauchy integral test, this sum and the integral (in second method) should behave alike. So, why there values are different?
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– Mathsaddict
Dec 24 '18 at 17:40
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They behave similarly, but that doesn't imply they represent the same numbers.
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– Clayton
Dec 24 '18 at 17:41
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A visual argument might help to see why the two are fundamentally different.
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– SvanN
Dec 24 '18 at 17:44
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Evaluate $$sum_{n=1}^{infty} frac{2n+1}{(n^{2}+n)^{2}}.$$
I am getting two different results by using two different methods -
First Method
The above sum can be written as
begin{align}sum_{n=1}^{N} (1/n^{2} - 1/(n+1)^{2})&= 1 - 1/4 + 1/4 - 1/9 dots -1/(N+1)^{2}\ &= 1 - 1/(N+1)^{2} end{align}
Taking the limit as $Ntoinfty$, we have the the sum equal to $1$.
Second Method
Above sum is equal to -
begin{align}int_{1}^{infty} frac{2x+1}{(x^{2}+x)^{2}},dxend{align}
Put $x^2 + x = t$
$$int_{2}^{infty} dt/t^{2}$$
$=[-1/t]_{2}^{infty}$
$=1/2$
Why are these methods are giving different results?
real-analysis
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Evaluate $$sum_{n=1}^{infty} frac{2n+1}{(n^{2}+n)^{2}}.$$
I am getting two different results by using two different methods -
First Method
The above sum can be written as
begin{align}sum_{n=1}^{N} (1/n^{2} - 1/(n+1)^{2})&= 1 - 1/4 + 1/4 - 1/9 dots -1/(N+1)^{2}\ &= 1 - 1/(N+1)^{2} end{align}
Taking the limit as $Ntoinfty$, we have the the sum equal to $1$.
Second Method
Above sum is equal to -
begin{align}int_{1}^{infty} frac{2x+1}{(x^{2}+x)^{2}},dxend{align}
Put $x^2 + x = t$
$$int_{2}^{infty} dt/t^{2}$$
$=[-1/t]_{2}^{infty}$
$=1/2$
Why are these methods are giving different results?
real-analysis
real-analysis
edited Dec 24 '18 at 17:38
Clayton
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asked Dec 24 '18 at 17:31
MathsaddictMathsaddict
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The sum and the integral are not equal. That is why you're getting different answers.
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– Clayton
Dec 24 '18 at 17:32
2
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For n=1, the first term would be $3/4$. You missed something in your second method.
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– Love Invariants
Dec 24 '18 at 17:34
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@Clayton By cauchy integral test, this sum and the integral (in second method) should behave alike. So, why there values are different?
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– Mathsaddict
Dec 24 '18 at 17:40
3
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They behave similarly, but that doesn't imply they represent the same numbers.
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– Clayton
Dec 24 '18 at 17:41
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A visual argument might help to see why the two are fundamentally different.
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– SvanN
Dec 24 '18 at 17:44
add a comment |
10
$begingroup$
The sum and the integral are not equal. That is why you're getting different answers.
$endgroup$
– Clayton
Dec 24 '18 at 17:32
2
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For n=1, the first term would be $3/4$. You missed something in your second method.
$endgroup$
– Love Invariants
Dec 24 '18 at 17:34
$begingroup$
@Clayton By cauchy integral test, this sum and the integral (in second method) should behave alike. So, why there values are different?
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– Mathsaddict
Dec 24 '18 at 17:40
3
$begingroup$
They behave similarly, but that doesn't imply they represent the same numbers.
$endgroup$
– Clayton
Dec 24 '18 at 17:41
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A visual argument might help to see why the two are fundamentally different.
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– SvanN
Dec 24 '18 at 17:44
10
10
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The sum and the integral are not equal. That is why you're getting different answers.
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– Clayton
Dec 24 '18 at 17:32
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The sum and the integral are not equal. That is why you're getting different answers.
$endgroup$
– Clayton
Dec 24 '18 at 17:32
2
2
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For n=1, the first term would be $3/4$. You missed something in your second method.
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– Love Invariants
Dec 24 '18 at 17:34
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For n=1, the first term would be $3/4$. You missed something in your second method.
$endgroup$
– Love Invariants
Dec 24 '18 at 17:34
$begingroup$
@Clayton By cauchy integral test, this sum and the integral (in second method) should behave alike. So, why there values are different?
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– Mathsaddict
Dec 24 '18 at 17:40
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@Clayton By cauchy integral test, this sum and the integral (in second method) should behave alike. So, why there values are different?
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– Mathsaddict
Dec 24 '18 at 17:40
3
3
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They behave similarly, but that doesn't imply they represent the same numbers.
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– Clayton
Dec 24 '18 at 17:41
$begingroup$
They behave similarly, but that doesn't imply they represent the same numbers.
$endgroup$
– Clayton
Dec 24 '18 at 17:41
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A visual argument might help to see why the two are fundamentally different.
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– SvanN
Dec 24 '18 at 17:44
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A visual argument might help to see why the two are fundamentally different.
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– SvanN
Dec 24 '18 at 17:44
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The Integral Test for series does NOT assert that the infinite series and the improper integral are equal to each other. In fact, from the proof, it can be seen that they can't possibly be equal to each other (except for maybe some carefully constructed step functions, if we relax the continuity requirement). The test only says that if the integral converges, then the series converges as well (and the same for divergence), but it does not provide a value for the series in this case (although it does provide a useful remainder estimate). In short:
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty}f(n)color{red}{neq}int_1^{infty}f(x),dx,$$
which is why your second "method" is wrong.
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In context, hopefully not too trivial.
Let $f(n)=dfrac{2n+1}{(n^2+n)^2}$, $f(n)$ is strictly decreasing.
1)Your sum $sum_{1}^{infty}f(n)$ is an upper sum
for the integral $int_{1}^{infty}f(x)dx$.
$U :=sum_{1}^{infty}f(n)=1$;
2)Now consider the lower sum:
$sum_{2}^{infty}f(n)$ for the integral.
$L := sum_{2}^{infty}f(n)=1/4;$
We have
$L =1/4 < 1/2$ (Integral)$ < U=1$.
See:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_test_for_convergence
Link given by Zipirovic.
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The Integral Test for series does NOT assert that the infinite series and the improper integral are equal to each other. In fact, from the proof, it can be seen that they can't possibly be equal to each other (except for maybe some carefully constructed step functions, if we relax the continuity requirement). The test only says that if the integral converges, then the series converges as well (and the same for divergence), but it does not provide a value for the series in this case (although it does provide a useful remainder estimate). In short:
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty}f(n)color{red}{neq}int_1^{infty}f(x),dx,$$
which is why your second "method" is wrong.
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The Integral Test for series does NOT assert that the infinite series and the improper integral are equal to each other. In fact, from the proof, it can be seen that they can't possibly be equal to each other (except for maybe some carefully constructed step functions, if we relax the continuity requirement). The test only says that if the integral converges, then the series converges as well (and the same for divergence), but it does not provide a value for the series in this case (although it does provide a useful remainder estimate). In short:
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty}f(n)color{red}{neq}int_1^{infty}f(x),dx,$$
which is why your second "method" is wrong.
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
The Integral Test for series does NOT assert that the infinite series and the improper integral are equal to each other. In fact, from the proof, it can be seen that they can't possibly be equal to each other (except for maybe some carefully constructed step functions, if we relax the continuity requirement). The test only says that if the integral converges, then the series converges as well (and the same for divergence), but it does not provide a value for the series in this case (although it does provide a useful remainder estimate). In short:
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty}f(n)color{red}{neq}int_1^{infty}f(x),dx,$$
which is why your second "method" is wrong.
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The Integral Test for series does NOT assert that the infinite series and the improper integral are equal to each other. In fact, from the proof, it can be seen that they can't possibly be equal to each other (except for maybe some carefully constructed step functions, if we relax the continuity requirement). The test only says that if the integral converges, then the series converges as well (and the same for divergence), but it does not provide a value for the series in this case (although it does provide a useful remainder estimate). In short:
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty}f(n)color{red}{neq}int_1^{infty}f(x),dx,$$
which is why your second "method" is wrong.
answered Dec 24 '18 at 17:43
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In context, hopefully not too trivial.
Let $f(n)=dfrac{2n+1}{(n^2+n)^2}$, $f(n)$ is strictly decreasing.
1)Your sum $sum_{1}^{infty}f(n)$ is an upper sum
for the integral $int_{1}^{infty}f(x)dx$.
$U :=sum_{1}^{infty}f(n)=1$;
2)Now consider the lower sum:
$sum_{2}^{infty}f(n)$ for the integral.
$L := sum_{2}^{infty}f(n)=1/4;$
We have
$L =1/4 < 1/2$ (Integral)$ < U=1$.
See:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_test_for_convergence
Link given by Zipirovic.
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
In context, hopefully not too trivial.
Let $f(n)=dfrac{2n+1}{(n^2+n)^2}$, $f(n)$ is strictly decreasing.
1)Your sum $sum_{1}^{infty}f(n)$ is an upper sum
for the integral $int_{1}^{infty}f(x)dx$.
$U :=sum_{1}^{infty}f(n)=1$;
2)Now consider the lower sum:
$sum_{2}^{infty}f(n)$ for the integral.
$L := sum_{2}^{infty}f(n)=1/4;$
We have
$L =1/4 < 1/2$ (Integral)$ < U=1$.
See:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_test_for_convergence
Link given by Zipirovic.
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
In context, hopefully not too trivial.
Let $f(n)=dfrac{2n+1}{(n^2+n)^2}$, $f(n)$ is strictly decreasing.
1)Your sum $sum_{1}^{infty}f(n)$ is an upper sum
for the integral $int_{1}^{infty}f(x)dx$.
$U :=sum_{1}^{infty}f(n)=1$;
2)Now consider the lower sum:
$sum_{2}^{infty}f(n)$ for the integral.
$L := sum_{2}^{infty}f(n)=1/4;$
We have
$L =1/4 < 1/2$ (Integral)$ < U=1$.
See:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_test_for_convergence
Link given by Zipirovic.
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In context, hopefully not too trivial.
Let $f(n)=dfrac{2n+1}{(n^2+n)^2}$, $f(n)$ is strictly decreasing.
1)Your sum $sum_{1}^{infty}f(n)$ is an upper sum
for the integral $int_{1}^{infty}f(x)dx$.
$U :=sum_{1}^{infty}f(n)=1$;
2)Now consider the lower sum:
$sum_{2}^{infty}f(n)$ for the integral.
$L := sum_{2}^{infty}f(n)=1/4;$
We have
$L =1/4 < 1/2$ (Integral)$ < U=1$.
See:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_test_for_convergence
Link given by Zipirovic.
answered Dec 24 '18 at 18:34
Peter SzilasPeter Szilas
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The sum and the integral are not equal. That is why you're getting different answers.
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– Clayton
Dec 24 '18 at 17:32
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For n=1, the first term would be $3/4$. You missed something in your second method.
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– Love Invariants
Dec 24 '18 at 17:34
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@Clayton By cauchy integral test, this sum and the integral (in second method) should behave alike. So, why there values are different?
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– Mathsaddict
Dec 24 '18 at 17:40
3
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They behave similarly, but that doesn't imply they represent the same numbers.
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– Clayton
Dec 24 '18 at 17:41
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A visual argument might help to see why the two are fundamentally different.
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– SvanN
Dec 24 '18 at 17:44