Prove that if $a,bin mathbb{R}$, $a>0$, then $lim frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}=0$ as $ntoinfty$











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As the title says, i want to show that $$lim_{nto infty} frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}=0$$ where $a,bin mathbb{R}$ with $a>0$.



I tried to bound the sequence $x_n = frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}$ and use the sandwish theorem, but have no results. My problem is the exponent in the denominator, maybe it could be bounded with Bernoulli inequality ($(1+a)^ngeq 1+na$) but then the problem is de numerator $n^b$.



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    As the title says, i want to show that $$lim_{nto infty} frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}=0$$ where $a,bin mathbb{R}$ with $a>0$.



    I tried to bound the sequence $x_n = frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}$ and use the sandwish theorem, but have no results. My problem is the exponent in the denominator, maybe it could be bounded with Bernoulli inequality ($(1+a)^ngeq 1+na$) but then the problem is de numerator $n^b$.



    I'm grateful for any hints for doing this problem, or some steps to clarify.










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      As the title says, i want to show that $$lim_{nto infty} frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}=0$$ where $a,bin mathbb{R}$ with $a>0$.



      I tried to bound the sequence $x_n = frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}$ and use the sandwish theorem, but have no results. My problem is the exponent in the denominator, maybe it could be bounded with Bernoulli inequality ($(1+a)^ngeq 1+na$) but then the problem is de numerator $n^b$.



      I'm grateful for any hints for doing this problem, or some steps to clarify.










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      As the title says, i want to show that $$lim_{nto infty} frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}=0$$ where $a,bin mathbb{R}$ with $a>0$.



      I tried to bound the sequence $x_n = frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}$ and use the sandwish theorem, but have no results. My problem is the exponent in the denominator, maybe it could be bounded with Bernoulli inequality ($(1+a)^ngeq 1+na$) but then the problem is de numerator $n^b$.



      I'm grateful for any hints for doing this problem, or some steps to clarify.







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          HINT:



          Bernoulli's inequality won't suffice when $bge1$, but the binomial theorem will suffice.



          From the binomial theorem, with $n>b$, we see that



          $$(1+a)^nge binom{n}{lfloor brfloor +1}a^{lfloor b rfloor +1}$$



          where $lfloor cdot rfloor$ is the floor function.



          Can you proceed?






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          • Could you explain me more of your idea? I tried to use it to bound the sequence but i still don't see it. Thank you :)
            – Raul_MFer
            Nov 20 at 1:10










          • Write out the term $binom{n}{lfloor b rfloor +1}$. Do you see that it is $O(n^{lfloor b rfloor +1})$
            – Mark Viola
            Nov 20 at 3:07




















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          We need to show that



          $$logleft(frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}right)=blog n-nlog(1+a)=nleft(bfrac{log n}n-log(1+a)right) to -infty$$



          that is



          $$frac{log n}n to 0$$






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          • God dammit I was seconds away from posting.
            – Rushabh Mehta
            Nov 19 at 21:28










          • @RushabhMehta Sorry! :)
            – gimusi
            Nov 19 at 21:29










          • @RushabhMehta Anyway in my opinion if your answer was near to be completed you could post it. I think it is not agains any rule and maybe your way to present things could be more clear to the asker or to other readers than mine.
            – gimusi
            Nov 19 at 21:41


















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          By the ratio test, the sequence converges if
          $$frac{(n+1)^b}{(1+a)n^b}<1.$$



          This is achieved when



          $$n>frac1{sqrt[b]{1+a}-1},$$ a finite number.





          E.g., with $dfrac{n^3}{2^n}$, for $n>3$,



          $$frac{(n+1)^3}{2n^3}<frac{125}{2cdot64}<1.$$






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          • Sorry, I don't see how to use it to prove that the sequence converges to $0$. Could you show a little more?
            – Raul_MFer
            Nov 20 at 1:40












          • @Raul_MFer: did you downvote ?
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          HINT:



          Bernoulli's inequality won't suffice when $bge1$, but the binomial theorem will suffice.



          From the binomial theorem, with $n>b$, we see that



          $$(1+a)^nge binom{n}{lfloor brfloor +1}a^{lfloor b rfloor +1}$$



          where $lfloor cdot rfloor$ is the floor function.



          Can you proceed?






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          • Could you explain me more of your idea? I tried to use it to bound the sequence but i still don't see it. Thank you :)
            – Raul_MFer
            Nov 20 at 1:10










          • Write out the term $binom{n}{lfloor b rfloor +1}$. Do you see that it is $O(n^{lfloor b rfloor +1})$
            – Mark Viola
            Nov 20 at 3:07

















          up vote
          3
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          HINT:



          Bernoulli's inequality won't suffice when $bge1$, but the binomial theorem will suffice.



          From the binomial theorem, with $n>b$, we see that



          $$(1+a)^nge binom{n}{lfloor brfloor +1}a^{lfloor b rfloor +1}$$



          where $lfloor cdot rfloor$ is the floor function.



          Can you proceed?






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          • Could you explain me more of your idea? I tried to use it to bound the sequence but i still don't see it. Thank you :)
            – Raul_MFer
            Nov 20 at 1:10










          • Write out the term $binom{n}{lfloor b rfloor +1}$. Do you see that it is $O(n^{lfloor b rfloor +1})$
            – Mark Viola
            Nov 20 at 3:07















          up vote
          3
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          up vote
          3
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          HINT:



          Bernoulli's inequality won't suffice when $bge1$, but the binomial theorem will suffice.



          From the binomial theorem, with $n>b$, we see that



          $$(1+a)^nge binom{n}{lfloor brfloor +1}a^{lfloor b rfloor +1}$$



          where $lfloor cdot rfloor$ is the floor function.



          Can you proceed?






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          HINT:



          Bernoulli's inequality won't suffice when $bge1$, but the binomial theorem will suffice.



          From the binomial theorem, with $n>b$, we see that



          $$(1+a)^nge binom{n}{lfloor brfloor +1}a^{lfloor b rfloor +1}$$



          where $lfloor cdot rfloor$ is the floor function.



          Can you proceed?







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          edited Nov 19 at 23:10

























          answered Nov 19 at 22:10









          Mark Viola

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          • Could you explain me more of your idea? I tried to use it to bound the sequence but i still don't see it. Thank you :)
            – Raul_MFer
            Nov 20 at 1:10










          • Write out the term $binom{n}{lfloor b rfloor +1}$. Do you see that it is $O(n^{lfloor b rfloor +1})$
            – Mark Viola
            Nov 20 at 3:07




















          • Could you explain me more of your idea? I tried to use it to bound the sequence but i still don't see it. Thank you :)
            – Raul_MFer
            Nov 20 at 1:10










          • Write out the term $binom{n}{lfloor b rfloor +1}$. Do you see that it is $O(n^{lfloor b rfloor +1})$
            – Mark Viola
            Nov 20 at 3:07


















          Could you explain me more of your idea? I tried to use it to bound the sequence but i still don't see it. Thank you :)
          – Raul_MFer
          Nov 20 at 1:10




          Could you explain me more of your idea? I tried to use it to bound the sequence but i still don't see it. Thank you :)
          – Raul_MFer
          Nov 20 at 1:10












          Write out the term $binom{n}{lfloor b rfloor +1}$. Do you see that it is $O(n^{lfloor b rfloor +1})$
          – Mark Viola
          Nov 20 at 3:07






          Write out the term $binom{n}{lfloor b rfloor +1}$. Do you see that it is $O(n^{lfloor b rfloor +1})$
          – Mark Viola
          Nov 20 at 3:07












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          We need to show that



          $$logleft(frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}right)=blog n-nlog(1+a)=nleft(bfrac{log n}n-log(1+a)right) to -infty$$



          that is



          $$frac{log n}n to 0$$






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          • God dammit I was seconds away from posting.
            – Rushabh Mehta
            Nov 19 at 21:28










          • @RushabhMehta Sorry! :)
            – gimusi
            Nov 19 at 21:29










          • @RushabhMehta Anyway in my opinion if your answer was near to be completed you could post it. I think it is not agains any rule and maybe your way to present things could be more clear to the asker or to other readers than mine.
            – gimusi
            Nov 19 at 21:41















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          We need to show that



          $$logleft(frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}right)=blog n-nlog(1+a)=nleft(bfrac{log n}n-log(1+a)right) to -infty$$



          that is



          $$frac{log n}n to 0$$






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          • God dammit I was seconds away from posting.
            – Rushabh Mehta
            Nov 19 at 21:28










          • @RushabhMehta Sorry! :)
            – gimusi
            Nov 19 at 21:29










          • @RushabhMehta Anyway in my opinion if your answer was near to be completed you could post it. I think it is not agains any rule and maybe your way to present things could be more clear to the asker or to other readers than mine.
            – gimusi
            Nov 19 at 21:41













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          We need to show that



          $$logleft(frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}right)=blog n-nlog(1+a)=nleft(bfrac{log n}n-log(1+a)right) to -infty$$



          that is



          $$frac{log n}n to 0$$






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          We need to show that



          $$logleft(frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}right)=blog n-nlog(1+a)=nleft(bfrac{log n}n-log(1+a)right) to -infty$$



          that is



          $$frac{log n}n to 0$$







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          edited Nov 19 at 21:28

























          answered Nov 19 at 21:27









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          • God dammit I was seconds away from posting.
            – Rushabh Mehta
            Nov 19 at 21:28










          • @RushabhMehta Sorry! :)
            – gimusi
            Nov 19 at 21:29










          • @RushabhMehta Anyway in my opinion if your answer was near to be completed you could post it. I think it is not agains any rule and maybe your way to present things could be more clear to the asker or to other readers than mine.
            – gimusi
            Nov 19 at 21:41


















          • God dammit I was seconds away from posting.
            – Rushabh Mehta
            Nov 19 at 21:28










          • @RushabhMehta Sorry! :)
            – gimusi
            Nov 19 at 21:29










          • @RushabhMehta Anyway in my opinion if your answer was near to be completed you could post it. I think it is not agains any rule and maybe your way to present things could be more clear to the asker or to other readers than mine.
            – gimusi
            Nov 19 at 21:41
















          God dammit I was seconds away from posting.
          – Rushabh Mehta
          Nov 19 at 21:28




          God dammit I was seconds away from posting.
          – Rushabh Mehta
          Nov 19 at 21:28












          @RushabhMehta Sorry! :)
          – gimusi
          Nov 19 at 21:29




          @RushabhMehta Sorry! :)
          – gimusi
          Nov 19 at 21:29












          @RushabhMehta Anyway in my opinion if your answer was near to be completed you could post it. I think it is not agains any rule and maybe your way to present things could be more clear to the asker or to other readers than mine.
          – gimusi
          Nov 19 at 21:41




          @RushabhMehta Anyway in my opinion if your answer was near to be completed you could post it. I think it is not agains any rule and maybe your way to present things could be more clear to the asker or to other readers than mine.
          – gimusi
          Nov 19 at 21:41










          up vote
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          By the ratio test, the sequence converges if
          $$frac{(n+1)^b}{(1+a)n^b}<1.$$



          This is achieved when



          $$n>frac1{sqrt[b]{1+a}-1},$$ a finite number.





          E.g., with $dfrac{n^3}{2^n}$, for $n>3$,



          $$frac{(n+1)^3}{2n^3}<frac{125}{2cdot64}<1.$$






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          • Sorry, I don't see how to use it to prove that the sequence converges to $0$. Could you show a little more?
            – Raul_MFer
            Nov 20 at 1:40












          • @Raul_MFer: did you downvote ?
            – Yves Daoust
            Nov 20 at 7:53















          up vote
          -1
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          By the ratio test, the sequence converges if
          $$frac{(n+1)^b}{(1+a)n^b}<1.$$



          This is achieved when



          $$n>frac1{sqrt[b]{1+a}-1},$$ a finite number.





          E.g., with $dfrac{n^3}{2^n}$, for $n>3$,



          $$frac{(n+1)^3}{2n^3}<frac{125}{2cdot64}<1.$$






          share|cite|improve this answer























          • Sorry, I don't see how to use it to prove that the sequence converges to $0$. Could you show a little more?
            – Raul_MFer
            Nov 20 at 1:40












          • @Raul_MFer: did you downvote ?
            – Yves Daoust
            Nov 20 at 7:53













          up vote
          -1
          down vote










          up vote
          -1
          down vote









          By the ratio test, the sequence converges if
          $$frac{(n+1)^b}{(1+a)n^b}<1.$$



          This is achieved when



          $$n>frac1{sqrt[b]{1+a}-1},$$ a finite number.





          E.g., with $dfrac{n^3}{2^n}$, for $n>3$,



          $$frac{(n+1)^3}{2n^3}<frac{125}{2cdot64}<1.$$






          share|cite|improve this answer














          By the ratio test, the sequence converges if
          $$frac{(n+1)^b}{(1+a)n^b}<1.$$



          This is achieved when



          $$n>frac1{sqrt[b]{1+a}-1},$$ a finite number.





          E.g., with $dfrac{n^3}{2^n}$, for $n>3$,



          $$frac{(n+1)^3}{2n^3}<frac{125}{2cdot64}<1.$$







          share|cite|improve this answer














          share|cite|improve this answer



          share|cite|improve this answer








          edited Nov 19 at 23:18

























          answered Nov 19 at 23:02









          Yves Daoust

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          • Sorry, I don't see how to use it to prove that the sequence converges to $0$. Could you show a little more?
            – Raul_MFer
            Nov 20 at 1:40












          • @Raul_MFer: did you downvote ?
            – Yves Daoust
            Nov 20 at 7:53


















          • Sorry, I don't see how to use it to prove that the sequence converges to $0$. Could you show a little more?
            – Raul_MFer
            Nov 20 at 1:40












          • @Raul_MFer: did you downvote ?
            – Yves Daoust
            Nov 20 at 7:53
















          Sorry, I don't see how to use it to prove that the sequence converges to $0$. Could you show a little more?
          – Raul_MFer
          Nov 20 at 1:40






          Sorry, I don't see how to use it to prove that the sequence converges to $0$. Could you show a little more?
          – Raul_MFer
          Nov 20 at 1:40














          @Raul_MFer: did you downvote ?
          – Yves Daoust
          Nov 20 at 7:53




          @Raul_MFer: did you downvote ?
          – Yves Daoust
          Nov 20 at 7:53


















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