Prove that if $a,bin mathbb{R}$, $a>0$, then $lim frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}=0$ as $ntoinfty$
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As the title says, i want to show that $$lim_{nto infty} frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}=0$$ where $a,bin mathbb{R}$ with $a>0$.
I tried to bound the sequence $x_n = frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}$ and use the sandwish theorem, but have no results. My problem is the exponent in the denominator, maybe it could be bounded with Bernoulli inequality ($(1+a)^ngeq 1+na$) but then the problem is de numerator $n^b$.
I'm grateful for any hints for doing this problem, or some steps to clarify.
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As the title says, i want to show that $$lim_{nto infty} frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}=0$$ where $a,bin mathbb{R}$ with $a>0$.
I tried to bound the sequence $x_n = frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}$ and use the sandwish theorem, but have no results. My problem is the exponent in the denominator, maybe it could be bounded with Bernoulli inequality ($(1+a)^ngeq 1+na$) but then the problem is de numerator $n^b$.
I'm grateful for any hints for doing this problem, or some steps to clarify.
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As the title says, i want to show that $$lim_{nto infty} frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}=0$$ where $a,bin mathbb{R}$ with $a>0$.
I tried to bound the sequence $x_n = frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}$ and use the sandwish theorem, but have no results. My problem is the exponent in the denominator, maybe it could be bounded with Bernoulli inequality ($(1+a)^ngeq 1+na$) but then the problem is de numerator $n^b$.
I'm grateful for any hints for doing this problem, or some steps to clarify.
calculus sequences-and-series limits
As the title says, i want to show that $$lim_{nto infty} frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}=0$$ where $a,bin mathbb{R}$ with $a>0$.
I tried to bound the sequence $x_n = frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}$ and use the sandwish theorem, but have no results. My problem is the exponent in the denominator, maybe it could be bounded with Bernoulli inequality ($(1+a)^ngeq 1+na$) but then the problem is de numerator $n^b$.
I'm grateful for any hints for doing this problem, or some steps to clarify.
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HINT:
Bernoulli's inequality won't suffice when $bge1$, but the binomial theorem will suffice.
From the binomial theorem, with $n>b$, we see that
$$(1+a)^nge binom{n}{lfloor brfloor +1}a^{lfloor b rfloor +1}$$
where $lfloor cdot rfloor$ is the floor function.
Can you proceed?
Could you explain me more of your idea? I tried to use it to bound the sequence but i still don't see it. Thank you :)
– Raul_MFer
Nov 20 at 1:10
Write out the term $binom{n}{lfloor b rfloor +1}$. Do you see that it is $O(n^{lfloor b rfloor +1})$
– Mark Viola
Nov 20 at 3:07
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We need to show that
$$logleft(frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}right)=blog n-nlog(1+a)=nleft(bfrac{log n}n-log(1+a)right) to -infty$$
that is
$$frac{log n}n to 0$$
God dammit I was seconds away from posting.
– Rushabh Mehta
Nov 19 at 21:28
@RushabhMehta Sorry! :)
– gimusi
Nov 19 at 21:29
@RushabhMehta Anyway in my opinion if your answer was near to be completed you could post it. I think it is not agains any rule and maybe your way to present things could be more clear to the asker or to other readers than mine.
– gimusi
Nov 19 at 21:41
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By the ratio test, the sequence converges if
$$frac{(n+1)^b}{(1+a)n^b}<1.$$
This is achieved when
$$n>frac1{sqrt[b]{1+a}-1},$$ a finite number.
E.g., with $dfrac{n^3}{2^n}$, for $n>3$,
$$frac{(n+1)^3}{2n^3}<frac{125}{2cdot64}<1.$$
Sorry, I don't see how to use it to prove that the sequence converges to $0$. Could you show a little more?
– Raul_MFer
Nov 20 at 1:40
@Raul_MFer: did you downvote ?
– Yves Daoust
Nov 20 at 7:53
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3 Answers
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3 Answers
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HINT:
Bernoulli's inequality won't suffice when $bge1$, but the binomial theorem will suffice.
From the binomial theorem, with $n>b$, we see that
$$(1+a)^nge binom{n}{lfloor brfloor +1}a^{lfloor b rfloor +1}$$
where $lfloor cdot rfloor$ is the floor function.
Can you proceed?
Could you explain me more of your idea? I tried to use it to bound the sequence but i still don't see it. Thank you :)
– Raul_MFer
Nov 20 at 1:10
Write out the term $binom{n}{lfloor b rfloor +1}$. Do you see that it is $O(n^{lfloor b rfloor +1})$
– Mark Viola
Nov 20 at 3:07
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3
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HINT:
Bernoulli's inequality won't suffice when $bge1$, but the binomial theorem will suffice.
From the binomial theorem, with $n>b$, we see that
$$(1+a)^nge binom{n}{lfloor brfloor +1}a^{lfloor b rfloor +1}$$
where $lfloor cdot rfloor$ is the floor function.
Can you proceed?
Could you explain me more of your idea? I tried to use it to bound the sequence but i still don't see it. Thank you :)
– Raul_MFer
Nov 20 at 1:10
Write out the term $binom{n}{lfloor b rfloor +1}$. Do you see that it is $O(n^{lfloor b rfloor +1})$
– Mark Viola
Nov 20 at 3:07
add a comment |
up vote
3
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up vote
3
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HINT:
Bernoulli's inequality won't suffice when $bge1$, but the binomial theorem will suffice.
From the binomial theorem, with $n>b$, we see that
$$(1+a)^nge binom{n}{lfloor brfloor +1}a^{lfloor b rfloor +1}$$
where $lfloor cdot rfloor$ is the floor function.
Can you proceed?
HINT:
Bernoulli's inequality won't suffice when $bge1$, but the binomial theorem will suffice.
From the binomial theorem, with $n>b$, we see that
$$(1+a)^nge binom{n}{lfloor brfloor +1}a^{lfloor b rfloor +1}$$
where $lfloor cdot rfloor$ is the floor function.
Can you proceed?
edited Nov 19 at 23:10
answered Nov 19 at 22:10
Mark Viola
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Could you explain me more of your idea? I tried to use it to bound the sequence but i still don't see it. Thank you :)
– Raul_MFer
Nov 20 at 1:10
Write out the term $binom{n}{lfloor b rfloor +1}$. Do you see that it is $O(n^{lfloor b rfloor +1})$
– Mark Viola
Nov 20 at 3:07
add a comment |
Could you explain me more of your idea? I tried to use it to bound the sequence but i still don't see it. Thank you :)
– Raul_MFer
Nov 20 at 1:10
Write out the term $binom{n}{lfloor b rfloor +1}$. Do you see that it is $O(n^{lfloor b rfloor +1})$
– Mark Viola
Nov 20 at 3:07
Could you explain me more of your idea? I tried to use it to bound the sequence but i still don't see it. Thank you :)
– Raul_MFer
Nov 20 at 1:10
Could you explain me more of your idea? I tried to use it to bound the sequence but i still don't see it. Thank you :)
– Raul_MFer
Nov 20 at 1:10
Write out the term $binom{n}{lfloor b rfloor +1}$. Do you see that it is $O(n^{lfloor b rfloor +1})$
– Mark Viola
Nov 20 at 3:07
Write out the term $binom{n}{lfloor b rfloor +1}$. Do you see that it is $O(n^{lfloor b rfloor +1})$
– Mark Viola
Nov 20 at 3:07
add a comment |
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We need to show that
$$logleft(frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}right)=blog n-nlog(1+a)=nleft(bfrac{log n}n-log(1+a)right) to -infty$$
that is
$$frac{log n}n to 0$$
God dammit I was seconds away from posting.
– Rushabh Mehta
Nov 19 at 21:28
@RushabhMehta Sorry! :)
– gimusi
Nov 19 at 21:29
@RushabhMehta Anyway in my opinion if your answer was near to be completed you could post it. I think it is not agains any rule and maybe your way to present things could be more clear to the asker or to other readers than mine.
– gimusi
Nov 19 at 21:41
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We need to show that
$$logleft(frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}right)=blog n-nlog(1+a)=nleft(bfrac{log n}n-log(1+a)right) to -infty$$
that is
$$frac{log n}n to 0$$
God dammit I was seconds away from posting.
– Rushabh Mehta
Nov 19 at 21:28
@RushabhMehta Sorry! :)
– gimusi
Nov 19 at 21:29
@RushabhMehta Anyway in my opinion if your answer was near to be completed you could post it. I think it is not agains any rule and maybe your way to present things could be more clear to the asker or to other readers than mine.
– gimusi
Nov 19 at 21:41
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
We need to show that
$$logleft(frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}right)=blog n-nlog(1+a)=nleft(bfrac{log n}n-log(1+a)right) to -infty$$
that is
$$frac{log n}n to 0$$
We need to show that
$$logleft(frac{n^b}{(1+a)^n}right)=blog n-nlog(1+a)=nleft(bfrac{log n}n-log(1+a)right) to -infty$$
that is
$$frac{log n}n to 0$$
edited Nov 19 at 21:28
answered Nov 19 at 21:27
gimusi
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God dammit I was seconds away from posting.
– Rushabh Mehta
Nov 19 at 21:28
@RushabhMehta Sorry! :)
– gimusi
Nov 19 at 21:29
@RushabhMehta Anyway in my opinion if your answer was near to be completed you could post it. I think it is not agains any rule and maybe your way to present things could be more clear to the asker or to other readers than mine.
– gimusi
Nov 19 at 21:41
add a comment |
God dammit I was seconds away from posting.
– Rushabh Mehta
Nov 19 at 21:28
@RushabhMehta Sorry! :)
– gimusi
Nov 19 at 21:29
@RushabhMehta Anyway in my opinion if your answer was near to be completed you could post it. I think it is not agains any rule and maybe your way to present things could be more clear to the asker or to other readers than mine.
– gimusi
Nov 19 at 21:41
God dammit I was seconds away from posting.
– Rushabh Mehta
Nov 19 at 21:28
God dammit I was seconds away from posting.
– Rushabh Mehta
Nov 19 at 21:28
@RushabhMehta Sorry! :)
– gimusi
Nov 19 at 21:29
@RushabhMehta Sorry! :)
– gimusi
Nov 19 at 21:29
@RushabhMehta Anyway in my opinion if your answer was near to be completed you could post it. I think it is not agains any rule and maybe your way to present things could be more clear to the asker or to other readers than mine.
– gimusi
Nov 19 at 21:41
@RushabhMehta Anyway in my opinion if your answer was near to be completed you could post it. I think it is not agains any rule and maybe your way to present things could be more clear to the asker or to other readers than mine.
– gimusi
Nov 19 at 21:41
add a comment |
up vote
-1
down vote
By the ratio test, the sequence converges if
$$frac{(n+1)^b}{(1+a)n^b}<1.$$
This is achieved when
$$n>frac1{sqrt[b]{1+a}-1},$$ a finite number.
E.g., with $dfrac{n^3}{2^n}$, for $n>3$,
$$frac{(n+1)^3}{2n^3}<frac{125}{2cdot64}<1.$$
Sorry, I don't see how to use it to prove that the sequence converges to $0$. Could you show a little more?
– Raul_MFer
Nov 20 at 1:40
@Raul_MFer: did you downvote ?
– Yves Daoust
Nov 20 at 7:53
add a comment |
up vote
-1
down vote
By the ratio test, the sequence converges if
$$frac{(n+1)^b}{(1+a)n^b}<1.$$
This is achieved when
$$n>frac1{sqrt[b]{1+a}-1},$$ a finite number.
E.g., with $dfrac{n^3}{2^n}$, for $n>3$,
$$frac{(n+1)^3}{2n^3}<frac{125}{2cdot64}<1.$$
Sorry, I don't see how to use it to prove that the sequence converges to $0$. Could you show a little more?
– Raul_MFer
Nov 20 at 1:40
@Raul_MFer: did you downvote ?
– Yves Daoust
Nov 20 at 7:53
add a comment |
up vote
-1
down vote
up vote
-1
down vote
By the ratio test, the sequence converges if
$$frac{(n+1)^b}{(1+a)n^b}<1.$$
This is achieved when
$$n>frac1{sqrt[b]{1+a}-1},$$ a finite number.
E.g., with $dfrac{n^3}{2^n}$, for $n>3$,
$$frac{(n+1)^3}{2n^3}<frac{125}{2cdot64}<1.$$
By the ratio test, the sequence converges if
$$frac{(n+1)^b}{(1+a)n^b}<1.$$
This is achieved when
$$n>frac1{sqrt[b]{1+a}-1},$$ a finite number.
E.g., with $dfrac{n^3}{2^n}$, for $n>3$,
$$frac{(n+1)^3}{2n^3}<frac{125}{2cdot64}<1.$$
edited Nov 19 at 23:18
answered Nov 19 at 23:02
Yves Daoust
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Sorry, I don't see how to use it to prove that the sequence converges to $0$. Could you show a little more?
– Raul_MFer
Nov 20 at 1:40
@Raul_MFer: did you downvote ?
– Yves Daoust
Nov 20 at 7:53
add a comment |
Sorry, I don't see how to use it to prove that the sequence converges to $0$. Could you show a little more?
– Raul_MFer
Nov 20 at 1:40
@Raul_MFer: did you downvote ?
– Yves Daoust
Nov 20 at 7:53
Sorry, I don't see how to use it to prove that the sequence converges to $0$. Could you show a little more?
– Raul_MFer
Nov 20 at 1:40
Sorry, I don't see how to use it to prove that the sequence converges to $0$. Could you show a little more?
– Raul_MFer
Nov 20 at 1:40
@Raul_MFer: did you downvote ?
– Yves Daoust
Nov 20 at 7:53
@Raul_MFer: did you downvote ?
– Yves Daoust
Nov 20 at 7:53
add a comment |
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