Can I stay in the states longer using my American passport?
I am a UK/US dual citizen. I came to the states on an ESTA. I'm aware I can only stay in the states for 90 days on the ESTA. I am getting my American passport while I'm here. Can I then use my US passport to somehow extend my stay here?
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I am a UK/US dual citizen. I came to the states on an ESTA. I'm aware I can only stay in the states for 90 days on the ESTA. I am getting my American passport while I'm here. Can I then use my US passport to somehow extend my stay here?
usa uk visa-extensions
edited Dec 16 at 12:49
Peter Mortensen
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asked Dec 16 at 6:32
Jasper
361
2
It doesn’t matter whether you entered illegally or on ESTA or a visa. So far as you’re a citizen the class/manner of entry does not change the fact you can stay indefinitely by law.
– Honorary World Citizen
Dec 16 at 7:50
7
The more important question is what are the consequences for violating the requirements of 8 USC 1185 which says, "it shall be unlawful for any citizen of the United States to depart from or enter, or attempt to depart from or enter, the United States unless he bears a valid United States passport.” See here for more information. (Short answer: There is no penalty for violating this requirement.)
– David Schwartz
Dec 16 at 9:38
1
Were you an US citizen when you entered or did you get citizenship while already in?
– Willeke♦
Dec 16 at 12:51
2
@KutuluMike If you show your British passport and don't tell anyone about your US passport, you will get a Visa without problems, even though you are not supposed to get one.
– gnasher729
Dec 16 at 13:17
2
@Willeke but he did, so even if he shouldn't have there's not much to be done about that at this point.
– phoog
Dec 16 at 17:13
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I am a UK/US dual citizen. I came to the states on an ESTA. I'm aware I can only stay in the states for 90 days on the ESTA. I am getting my American passport while I'm here. Can I then use my US passport to somehow extend my stay here?
usa uk visa-extensions
edited Dec 16 at 12:49
Peter Mortensen
1868
asked Dec 16 at 6:32
Jasper
361
I am a UK/US dual citizen. I came to the states on an ESTA. I'm aware I can only stay in the states for 90 days on the ESTA. I am getting my American passport while I'm here. Can I then use my US passport to somehow extend my stay here?
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usa uk visa-extensions
edited Dec 16 at 12:49
Peter Mortensen
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asked Dec 16 at 6:32
Jasper
361
edited Dec 16 at 12:49
Peter Mortensen
1868
asked Dec 16 at 6:32
Jasper
361
edited Dec 16 at 12:49
Peter Mortensen
1868
edited Dec 16 at 12:49
Peter Mortensen
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edited Dec 16 at 12:49
Peter Mortensen
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asked Dec 16 at 6:32
Jasper
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asked Dec 16 at 6:32
Jasper
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asked Dec 16 at 6:32
Jasper
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It doesn’t matter whether you entered illegally or on ESTA or a visa. So far as you’re a citizen the class/manner of entry does not change the fact you can stay indefinitely by law.
– Honorary World Citizen
Dec 16 at 7:50
7
The more important question is what are the consequences for violating the requirements of 8 USC 1185 which says, "it shall be unlawful for any citizen of the United States to depart from or enter, or attempt to depart from or enter, the United States unless he bears a valid United States passport.” See here for more information. (Short answer: There is no penalty for violating this requirement.)
– David Schwartz
Dec 16 at 9:38
1
Were you an US citizen when you entered or did you get citizenship while already in?
– Willeke♦
Dec 16 at 12:51
2
@KutuluMike If you show your British passport and don't tell anyone about your US passport, you will get a Visa without problems, even though you are not supposed to get one.
– gnasher729
Dec 16 at 13:17
2
@Willeke but he did, so even if he shouldn't have there's not much to be done about that at this point.
– phoog
Dec 16 at 17:13
|
show 6 more comments
2
It doesn’t matter whether you entered illegally or on ESTA or a visa. So far as you’re a citizen the class/manner of entry does not change the fact you can stay indefinitely by law.
– Honorary World Citizen
Dec 16 at 7:50
7
The more important question is what are the consequences for violating the requirements of 8 USC 1185 which says, "it shall be unlawful for any citizen of the United States to depart from or enter, or attempt to depart from or enter, the United States unless he bears a valid United States passport.” See here for more information. (Short answer: There is no penalty for violating this requirement.)
– David Schwartz
Dec 16 at 9:38
1
Were you an US citizen when you entered or did you get citizenship while already in?
– Willeke♦
Dec 16 at 12:51
2
@KutuluMike If you show your British passport and don't tell anyone about your US passport, you will get a Visa without problems, even though you are not supposed to get one.
– gnasher729
Dec 16 at 13:17
2
@Willeke but he did, so even if he shouldn't have there's not much to be done about that at this point.
– phoog
Dec 16 at 17:13
2
2
It doesn’t matter whether you entered illegally or on ESTA or a visa. So far as you’re a citizen the class/manner of entry does not change the fact you can stay indefinitely by law.
– Honorary World Citizen
Dec 16 at 7:50
It doesn’t matter whether you entered illegally or on ESTA or a visa. So far as you’re a citizen the class/manner of entry does not change the fact you can stay indefinitely by law.
– Honorary World Citizen
Dec 16 at 7:50
7
7
The more important question is what are the consequences for violating the requirements of 8 USC 1185 which says, "it shall be unlawful for any citizen of the United States to depart from or enter, or attempt to depart from or enter, the United States unless he bears a valid United States passport.” See here for more information. (Short answer: There is no penalty for violating this requirement.)
– David Schwartz
Dec 16 at 9:38
The more important question is what are the consequences for violating the requirements of 8 USC 1185 which says, "it shall be unlawful for any citizen of the United States to depart from or enter, or attempt to depart from or enter, the United States unless he bears a valid United States passport.” See here for more information. (Short answer: There is no penalty for violating this requirement.)
– David Schwartz
Dec 16 at 9:38
1
1
Were you an US citizen when you entered or did you get citizenship while already in?
– Willeke♦
Dec 16 at 12:51
Were you an US citizen when you entered or did you get citizenship while already in?
– Willeke♦
Dec 16 at 12:51
2
2
@KutuluMike If you show your British passport and don't tell anyone about your US passport, you will get a Visa without problems, even though you are not supposed to get one.
– gnasher729
Dec 16 at 13:17
@KutuluMike If you show your British passport and don't tell anyone about your US passport, you will get a Visa without problems, even though you are not supposed to get one.
– gnasher729
Dec 16 at 13:17
2
2
@Willeke but he did, so even if he shouldn't have there's not much to be done about that at this point.
– phoog
Dec 16 at 17:13
@Willeke but he did, so even if he shouldn't have there's not much to be done about that at this point.
– phoog
Dec 16 at 17:13
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The existing answer is a bit short, so I'll answer your question line-by-line.
I am a uk/us dual citizen. I came to the states on an ESTA.
If you're a US citizen, how did you enter on ESTA? You're a citizen already.
I'm aware I can only stay in the states for 90 days on the esta.
On ESTA, yes. But if you're a citizen of the US already, ESTA is irrelevant.
I am getting my American passport whilst I'm here. Can I then use my us passport to somehow extend my stay here?
A passport is just a document showing your citizenship to others and other countries. If you're already a US citizen, you don't need a US passport inside of US borders. Any documentation verifying your identity (and showing your US nationality) (for example, a driver's license) should be enough. Can you extend your stay? Yes. You're a citizen. You can stay as long as you want.
answered Dec 16 at 11:35
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The other answer is correct, but I'll add some relevant code citations. Legally speaking, your stay in the United States is not limited.
First, you entered with ESTA. This means that you were nominally admitted under the terms of the visa waiver program, 8 USC 1187. This provides for a waiver of the requirement of 8 USC 1182(a)(7)(B)(i)(II). That is the requirement that a nonimmigrant be in possession of a nonimmigrant visa.
But what is a nonimmigrant? That is defined at 8 USC 1101(a)(15):
(15) The term “immigrant” means every alien except an alien who is within one of the following classes of nonimmigrant aliens—
Before we proceed to look at the actual classifications, we should look at the definition of alien. That is found at 8 USC 1101(a)(3):
(3) The term “alien” means any person not a citizen or national of the United States.
But you are a citizen of the United States, so you are not an alien, and none of this applies to you. Your stay in the United States was never limited, and all you have to do to prove it is to prove that you are a US citizen. You can do that with a US passport, or, as noted by Mast, with any other evidence of citizenship.
I would add that your entering the US without a valid US passport did violate 8 USC 1185(b), but fortunately there is no penalty for that.
answered Dec 16 at 16:59
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The existing answer is a bit short, so I'll answer your question line-by-line.
I am a uk/us dual citizen. I came to the states on an ESTA.
If you're a US citizen, how did you enter on ESTA? You're a citizen already.
I'm aware I can only stay in the states for 90 days on the esta.
On ESTA, yes. But if you're a citizen of the US already, ESTA is irrelevant.
I am getting my American passport whilst I'm here. Can I then use my us passport to somehow extend my stay here?
A passport is just a document showing your citizenship to others and other countries. If you're already a US citizen, you don't need a US passport inside of US borders. Any documentation verifying your identity (and showing your US nationality) (for example, a driver's license) should be enough. Can you extend your stay? Yes. You're a citizen. You can stay as long as you want.
answered Dec 16 at 11:35
Mast
285716
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The existing answer is a bit short, so I'll answer your question line-by-line.
I am a uk/us dual citizen. I came to the states on an ESTA.
If you're a US citizen, how did you enter on ESTA? You're a citizen already.
I'm aware I can only stay in the states for 90 days on the esta.
On ESTA, yes. But if you're a citizen of the US already, ESTA is irrelevant.
I am getting my American passport whilst I'm here. Can I then use my us passport to somehow extend my stay here?
A passport is just a document showing your citizenship to others and other countries. If you're already a US citizen, you don't need a US passport inside of US borders. Any documentation verifying your identity (and showing your US nationality) (for example, a driver's license) should be enough. Can you extend your stay? Yes. You're a citizen. You can stay as long as you want.
answered Dec 16 at 11:35
Mast
285716
add a comment |
The existing answer is a bit short, so I'll answer your question line-by-line.
I am a uk/us dual citizen. I came to the states on an ESTA.
If you're a US citizen, how did you enter on ESTA? You're a citizen already.
I'm aware I can only stay in the states for 90 days on the esta.
On ESTA, yes. But if you're a citizen of the US already, ESTA is irrelevant.
I am getting my American passport whilst I'm here. Can I then use my us passport to somehow extend my stay here?
A passport is just a document showing your citizenship to others and other countries. If you're already a US citizen, you don't need a US passport inside of US borders. Any documentation verifying your identity (and showing your US nationality) (for example, a driver's license) should be enough. Can you extend your stay? Yes. You're a citizen. You can stay as long as you want.
answered Dec 16 at 11:35
Mast
285716
The existing answer is a bit short, so I'll answer your question line-by-line.
I am a uk/us dual citizen. I came to the states on an ESTA.
If you're a US citizen, how did you enter on ESTA? You're a citizen already.
I'm aware I can only stay in the states for 90 days on the esta.
On ESTA, yes. But if you're a citizen of the US already, ESTA is irrelevant.
I am getting my American passport whilst I'm here. Can I then use my us passport to somehow extend my stay here?
A passport is just a document showing your citizenship to others and other countries. If you're already a US citizen, you don't need a US passport inside of US borders. Any documentation verifying your identity (and showing your US nationality) (for example, a driver's license) should be enough. Can you extend your stay? Yes. You're a citizen. You can stay as long as you want.
answered Dec 16 at 11:35
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answered Dec 16 at 11:35
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The other answer is correct, but I'll add some relevant code citations. Legally speaking, your stay in the United States is not limited.
First, you entered with ESTA. This means that you were nominally admitted under the terms of the visa waiver program, 8 USC 1187. This provides for a waiver of the requirement of 8 USC 1182(a)(7)(B)(i)(II). That is the requirement that a nonimmigrant be in possession of a nonimmigrant visa.
But what is a nonimmigrant? That is defined at 8 USC 1101(a)(15):
(15) The term “immigrant” means every alien except an alien who is within one of the following classes of nonimmigrant aliens—
Before we proceed to look at the actual classifications, we should look at the definition of alien. That is found at 8 USC 1101(a)(3):
(3) The term “alien” means any person not a citizen or national of the United States.
But you are a citizen of the United States, so you are not an alien, and none of this applies to you. Your stay in the United States was never limited, and all you have to do to prove it is to prove that you are a US citizen. You can do that with a US passport, or, as noted by Mast, with any other evidence of citizenship.
I would add that your entering the US without a valid US passport did violate 8 USC 1185(b), but fortunately there is no penalty for that.
answered Dec 16 at 16:59
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The other answer is correct, but I'll add some relevant code citations. Legally speaking, your stay in the United States is not limited.
First, you entered with ESTA. This means that you were nominally admitted under the terms of the visa waiver program, 8 USC 1187. This provides for a waiver of the requirement of 8 USC 1182(a)(7)(B)(i)(II). That is the requirement that a nonimmigrant be in possession of a nonimmigrant visa.
But what is a nonimmigrant? That is defined at 8 USC 1101(a)(15):
(15) The term “immigrant” means every alien except an alien who is within one of the following classes of nonimmigrant aliens—
Before we proceed to look at the actual classifications, we should look at the definition of alien. That is found at 8 USC 1101(a)(3):
(3) The term “alien” means any person not a citizen or national of the United States.
But you are a citizen of the United States, so you are not an alien, and none of this applies to you. Your stay in the United States was never limited, and all you have to do to prove it is to prove that you are a US citizen. You can do that with a US passport, or, as noted by Mast, with any other evidence of citizenship.
I would add that your entering the US without a valid US passport did violate 8 USC 1185(b), but fortunately there is no penalty for that.
answered Dec 16 at 16:59
phoog
68.2k10149219
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The other answer is correct, but I'll add some relevant code citations. Legally speaking, your stay in the United States is not limited.
First, you entered with ESTA. This means that you were nominally admitted under the terms of the visa waiver program, 8 USC 1187. This provides for a waiver of the requirement of 8 USC 1182(a)(7)(B)(i)(II). That is the requirement that a nonimmigrant be in possession of a nonimmigrant visa.
But what is a nonimmigrant? That is defined at 8 USC 1101(a)(15):
(15) The term “immigrant” means every alien except an alien who is within one of the following classes of nonimmigrant aliens—
Before we proceed to look at the actual classifications, we should look at the definition of alien. That is found at 8 USC 1101(a)(3):
(3) The term “alien” means any person not a citizen or national of the United States.
But you are a citizen of the United States, so you are not an alien, and none of this applies to you. Your stay in the United States was never limited, and all you have to do to prove it is to prove that you are a US citizen. You can do that with a US passport, or, as noted by Mast, with any other evidence of citizenship.
I would add that your entering the US without a valid US passport did violate 8 USC 1185(b), but fortunately there is no penalty for that.
answered Dec 16 at 16:59
phoog
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The other answer is correct, but I'll add some relevant code citations. Legally speaking, your stay in the United States is not limited.
First, you entered with ESTA. This means that you were nominally admitted under the terms of the visa waiver program, 8 USC 1187. This provides for a waiver of the requirement of 8 USC 1182(a)(7)(B)(i)(II). That is the requirement that a nonimmigrant be in possession of a nonimmigrant visa.
But what is a nonimmigrant? That is defined at 8 USC 1101(a)(15):
(15) The term “immigrant” means every alien except an alien who is within one of the following classes of nonimmigrant aliens—
Before we proceed to look at the actual classifications, we should look at the definition of alien. That is found at 8 USC 1101(a)(3):
(3) The term “alien” means any person not a citizen or national of the United States.
But you are a citizen of the United States, so you are not an alien, and none of this applies to you. Your stay in the United States was never limited, and all you have to do to prove it is to prove that you are a US citizen. You can do that with a US passport, or, as noted by Mast, with any other evidence of citizenship.
I would add that your entering the US without a valid US passport did violate 8 USC 1185(b), but fortunately there is no penalty for that.
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It doesn’t matter whether you entered illegally or on ESTA or a visa. So far as you’re a citizen the class/manner of entry does not change the fact you can stay indefinitely by law.
– Honorary World Citizen
Dec 16 at 7:50
7
The more important question is what are the consequences for violating the requirements of 8 USC 1185 which says, "it shall be unlawful for any citizen of the United States to depart from or enter, or attempt to depart from or enter, the United States unless he bears a valid United States passport.” See here for more information. (Short answer: There is no penalty for violating this requirement.)
– David Schwartz
Dec 16 at 9:38
1
Were you an US citizen when you entered or did you get citizenship while already in?
– Willeke♦
Dec 16 at 12:51
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@KutuluMike If you show your British passport and don't tell anyone about your US passport, you will get a Visa without problems, even though you are not supposed to get one.
– gnasher729
Dec 16 at 13:17
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@Willeke but he did, so even if he shouldn't have there's not much to be done about that at this point.
– phoog
Dec 16 at 17:13