How to solve the limit $limlimits_{xto infty} (x arctan x - frac{xpi}{2})$












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Next week I have a math exam. While I was doing some exercises I came across this interesting limit:



$limlimits_{xto infty} (x arctan x - frac{xpi}{2})$



After struggling a lot, I decided to calculate this limit using my calculator. The answer turns out to be $-1$. The problem is that I don't know how to calculate this limit without a calculator. I tried using L'Hôpital's rule after converting the expression to a fraction. My steps:



$limlimits_{xto infty} (x arctan x - frac{xpi}{2}) = limlimits_{xto infty} frac{2x^2arctan x - x^2pi}{2x} stackrel{(H)}{=} limlimits_{xto infty} frac{4xarctan x - frac{2}{x^2+1}-2pi x+2}{2} = limlimits_{xto infty} frac{4x^2arctan x - frac{2x}{x^2+1}-2pi x^2+2x}{2x} stackrel{(H)}{=} limlimits_{xto infty} frac{8xarctan x - frac{2x^2+6}{(x^2+1)^2}-4pi x+6}{2} = dots$



This keeps going on without an end, I also don't see where I can simplify the expression when using L'Hôpital's rule. Am I missing a step or am I using the wrong method? What method can be used instead?










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    Next week I have a math exam. While I was doing some exercises I came across this interesting limit:



    $limlimits_{xto infty} (x arctan x - frac{xpi}{2})$



    After struggling a lot, I decided to calculate this limit using my calculator. The answer turns out to be $-1$. The problem is that I don't know how to calculate this limit without a calculator. I tried using L'Hôpital's rule after converting the expression to a fraction. My steps:



    $limlimits_{xto infty} (x arctan x - frac{xpi}{2}) = limlimits_{xto infty} frac{2x^2arctan x - x^2pi}{2x} stackrel{(H)}{=} limlimits_{xto infty} frac{4xarctan x - frac{2}{x^2+1}-2pi x+2}{2} = limlimits_{xto infty} frac{4x^2arctan x - frac{2x}{x^2+1}-2pi x^2+2x}{2x} stackrel{(H)}{=} limlimits_{xto infty} frac{8xarctan x - frac{2x^2+6}{(x^2+1)^2}-4pi x+6}{2} = dots$



    This keeps going on without an end, I also don't see where I can simplify the expression when using L'Hôpital's rule. Am I missing a step or am I using the wrong method? What method can be used instead?










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      Next week I have a math exam. While I was doing some exercises I came across this interesting limit:



      $limlimits_{xto infty} (x arctan x - frac{xpi}{2})$



      After struggling a lot, I decided to calculate this limit using my calculator. The answer turns out to be $-1$. The problem is that I don't know how to calculate this limit without a calculator. I tried using L'Hôpital's rule after converting the expression to a fraction. My steps:



      $limlimits_{xto infty} (x arctan x - frac{xpi}{2}) = limlimits_{xto infty} frac{2x^2arctan x - x^2pi}{2x} stackrel{(H)}{=} limlimits_{xto infty} frac{4xarctan x - frac{2}{x^2+1}-2pi x+2}{2} = limlimits_{xto infty} frac{4x^2arctan x - frac{2x}{x^2+1}-2pi x^2+2x}{2x} stackrel{(H)}{=} limlimits_{xto infty} frac{8xarctan x - frac{2x^2+6}{(x^2+1)^2}-4pi x+6}{2} = dots$



      This keeps going on without an end, I also don't see where I can simplify the expression when using L'Hôpital's rule. Am I missing a step or am I using the wrong method? What method can be used instead?










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      Next week I have a math exam. While I was doing some exercises I came across this interesting limit:



      $limlimits_{xto infty} (x arctan x - frac{xpi}{2})$



      After struggling a lot, I decided to calculate this limit using my calculator. The answer turns out to be $-1$. The problem is that I don't know how to calculate this limit without a calculator. I tried using L'Hôpital's rule after converting the expression to a fraction. My steps:



      $limlimits_{xto infty} (x arctan x - frac{xpi}{2}) = limlimits_{xto infty} frac{2x^2arctan x - x^2pi}{2x} stackrel{(H)}{=} limlimits_{xto infty} frac{4xarctan x - frac{2}{x^2+1}-2pi x+2}{2} = limlimits_{xto infty} frac{4x^2arctan x - frac{2x}{x^2+1}-2pi x^2+2x}{2x} stackrel{(H)}{=} limlimits_{xto infty} frac{8xarctan x - frac{2x^2+6}{(x^2+1)^2}-4pi x+6}{2} = dots$



      This keeps going on without an end, I also don't see where I can simplify the expression when using L'Hôpital's rule. Am I missing a step or am I using the wrong method? What method can be used instead?







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          Observe
          begin{align}
          lim_{xrightarrow infty} xarctan x-xfrac{pi}{2}=lim_{xrightarrowinfty}frac{arctan x-frac{pi}{2}}{x^{-1}} = lim_{xrightarrow infty} frac{frac{1}{1+x^2}}{-x^{-2}}=-1
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            If you know that $lim_{xto+infty}arctan x = pi/2$, then factoring out $x$ in your original limit you would get a $+infty cdot 0$. You want to apply L'Hospital's Rule. Motivated by this, we do $$lim_{xto +infty} left(xarctan x - frac{xpi}{2}right) = lim_{xto +infty} xleft(arctan x - frac{pi}{2}right) = lim_{x to infty} frac{arctan x - (pi/2)}{1/x}.$$Now apply L'Hospital to get $$lim_{x to +infty}left(xarctan x - frac{xpi}{2}right) = lim_{xto +infty} frac{1/(1+x^2)}{-1/x^2} = -lim_{x to +infty}frac{x^2}{1+x^2} = -1.$$






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              You can do the substitution $x=1/t$, recalling that, for $t>0$,
              $$
              arctanfrac{1}{t}=frac{pi}{2}-arctan t
              $$

              Thus the limit becomes
              $$
              lim_{tto0^+}left(frac{1}{t}frac{pi}{2}-frac{1}{t}arctan t-frac{1}{t}frac{pi}{2}right)=lim_{tto0^+}-frac{arctan t}{t}
              $$

              Alternatively, substitute $u=arctan x$, so $x=tan u$ and the limit becomes
              $$
              lim_{utopi/2^-}(u-pi/2)tan u=lim_{utopi/2^-}frac{u-pi/2}{cot u}
              $$

              This is the reciprocal of the derivative at $pi/2$ of the cotangent.






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                Observe
                begin{align}
                lim_{xrightarrow infty} xarctan x-xfrac{pi}{2}=lim_{xrightarrowinfty}frac{arctan x-frac{pi}{2}}{x^{-1}} = lim_{xrightarrow infty} frac{frac{1}{1+x^2}}{-x^{-2}}=-1
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                  Observe
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                  lim_{xrightarrow infty} xarctan x-xfrac{pi}{2}=lim_{xrightarrowinfty}frac{arctan x-frac{pi}{2}}{x^{-1}} = lim_{xrightarrow infty} frac{frac{1}{1+x^2}}{-x^{-2}}=-1
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                    Observe
                    begin{align}
                    lim_{xrightarrow infty} xarctan x-xfrac{pi}{2}=lim_{xrightarrowinfty}frac{arctan x-frac{pi}{2}}{x^{-1}} = lim_{xrightarrow infty} frac{frac{1}{1+x^2}}{-x^{-2}}=-1
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                    Observe
                    begin{align}
                    lim_{xrightarrow infty} xarctan x-xfrac{pi}{2}=lim_{xrightarrowinfty}frac{arctan x-frac{pi}{2}}{x^{-1}} = lim_{xrightarrow infty} frac{frac{1}{1+x^2}}{-x^{-2}}=-1
                    end{align}







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                        If you know that $lim_{xto+infty}arctan x = pi/2$, then factoring out $x$ in your original limit you would get a $+infty cdot 0$. You want to apply L'Hospital's Rule. Motivated by this, we do $$lim_{xto +infty} left(xarctan x - frac{xpi}{2}right) = lim_{xto +infty} xleft(arctan x - frac{pi}{2}right) = lim_{x to infty} frac{arctan x - (pi/2)}{1/x}.$$Now apply L'Hospital to get $$lim_{x to +infty}left(xarctan x - frac{xpi}{2}right) = lim_{xto +infty} frac{1/(1+x^2)}{-1/x^2} = -lim_{x to +infty}frac{x^2}{1+x^2} = -1.$$






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                          If you know that $lim_{xto+infty}arctan x = pi/2$, then factoring out $x$ in your original limit you would get a $+infty cdot 0$. You want to apply L'Hospital's Rule. Motivated by this, we do $$lim_{xto +infty} left(xarctan x - frac{xpi}{2}right) = lim_{xto +infty} xleft(arctan x - frac{pi}{2}right) = lim_{x to infty} frac{arctan x - (pi/2)}{1/x}.$$Now apply L'Hospital to get $$lim_{x to +infty}left(xarctan x - frac{xpi}{2}right) = lim_{xto +infty} frac{1/(1+x^2)}{-1/x^2} = -lim_{x to +infty}frac{x^2}{1+x^2} = -1.$$






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                            If you know that $lim_{xto+infty}arctan x = pi/2$, then factoring out $x$ in your original limit you would get a $+infty cdot 0$. You want to apply L'Hospital's Rule. Motivated by this, we do $$lim_{xto +infty} left(xarctan x - frac{xpi}{2}right) = lim_{xto +infty} xleft(arctan x - frac{pi}{2}right) = lim_{x to infty} frac{arctan x - (pi/2)}{1/x}.$$Now apply L'Hospital to get $$lim_{x to +infty}left(xarctan x - frac{xpi}{2}right) = lim_{xto +infty} frac{1/(1+x^2)}{-1/x^2} = -lim_{x to +infty}frac{x^2}{1+x^2} = -1.$$






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                            If you know that $lim_{xto+infty}arctan x = pi/2$, then factoring out $x$ in your original limit you would get a $+infty cdot 0$. You want to apply L'Hospital's Rule. Motivated by this, we do $$lim_{xto +infty} left(xarctan x - frac{xpi}{2}right) = lim_{xto +infty} xleft(arctan x - frac{pi}{2}right) = lim_{x to infty} frac{arctan x - (pi/2)}{1/x}.$$Now apply L'Hospital to get $$lim_{x to +infty}left(xarctan x - frac{xpi}{2}right) = lim_{xto +infty} frac{1/(1+x^2)}{-1/x^2} = -lim_{x to +infty}frac{x^2}{1+x^2} = -1.$$







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                                You can do the substitution $x=1/t$, recalling that, for $t>0$,
                                $$
                                arctanfrac{1}{t}=frac{pi}{2}-arctan t
                                $$

                                Thus the limit becomes
                                $$
                                lim_{tto0^+}left(frac{1}{t}frac{pi}{2}-frac{1}{t}arctan t-frac{1}{t}frac{pi}{2}right)=lim_{tto0^+}-frac{arctan t}{t}
                                $$

                                Alternatively, substitute $u=arctan x$, so $x=tan u$ and the limit becomes
                                $$
                                lim_{utopi/2^-}(u-pi/2)tan u=lim_{utopi/2^-}frac{u-pi/2}{cot u}
                                $$

                                This is the reciprocal of the derivative at $pi/2$ of the cotangent.






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                                  You can do the substitution $x=1/t$, recalling that, for $t>0$,
                                  $$
                                  arctanfrac{1}{t}=frac{pi}{2}-arctan t
                                  $$

                                  Thus the limit becomes
                                  $$
                                  lim_{tto0^+}left(frac{1}{t}frac{pi}{2}-frac{1}{t}arctan t-frac{1}{t}frac{pi}{2}right)=lim_{tto0^+}-frac{arctan t}{t}
                                  $$

                                  Alternatively, substitute $u=arctan x$, so $x=tan u$ and the limit becomes
                                  $$
                                  lim_{utopi/2^-}(u-pi/2)tan u=lim_{utopi/2^-}frac{u-pi/2}{cot u}
                                  $$

                                  This is the reciprocal of the derivative at $pi/2$ of the cotangent.






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                                    You can do the substitution $x=1/t$, recalling that, for $t>0$,
                                    $$
                                    arctanfrac{1}{t}=frac{pi}{2}-arctan t
                                    $$

                                    Thus the limit becomes
                                    $$
                                    lim_{tto0^+}left(frac{1}{t}frac{pi}{2}-frac{1}{t}arctan t-frac{1}{t}frac{pi}{2}right)=lim_{tto0^+}-frac{arctan t}{t}
                                    $$

                                    Alternatively, substitute $u=arctan x$, so $x=tan u$ and the limit becomes
                                    $$
                                    lim_{utopi/2^-}(u-pi/2)tan u=lim_{utopi/2^-}frac{u-pi/2}{cot u}
                                    $$

                                    This is the reciprocal of the derivative at $pi/2$ of the cotangent.






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                                    You can do the substitution $x=1/t$, recalling that, for $t>0$,
                                    $$
                                    arctanfrac{1}{t}=frac{pi}{2}-arctan t
                                    $$

                                    Thus the limit becomes
                                    $$
                                    lim_{tto0^+}left(frac{1}{t}frac{pi}{2}-frac{1}{t}arctan t-frac{1}{t}frac{pi}{2}right)=lim_{tto0^+}-frac{arctan t}{t}
                                    $$

                                    Alternatively, substitute $u=arctan x$, so $x=tan u$ and the limit becomes
                                    $$
                                    lim_{utopi/2^-}(u-pi/2)tan u=lim_{utopi/2^-}frac{u-pi/2}{cot u}
                                    $$

                                    This is the reciprocal of the derivative at $pi/2$ of the cotangent.







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