Geometric phase of the optical fiber or space curve












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Hi everyone I am trying to understand the geometric phase along an optical
optical fiber. I am a geometer and I am almost ok with the geometric part
but I have some diffuculties to extract physical computation. So I need your
help hoping to get my answer. Let me talk about some background on the
subject.



I am considering a geometric phase along the optical fiber as I told. To do
that I consider a curve $x$ and suppose that the optical fiber is determined
by this curve. According to Frenet frame it is known that
begin{eqnarray*}
mathbf{t}_{s} &=&kappa mathbf{n}, \
mathbf{n}_{s} &=&-kappa mathbf{t}+tau mathbf{b}, \
mathbf{b}_{s} &=&-tau mathbf{n},
end{eqnarray*}
%
where $kappa ,tau ~$are the curvature and torsion of the given curve.



I suppose that $mathbf{E}$ be the complex three component electric field
vector at the point $x(s)$. The magnitude $mathbf{E}$ does vary along the
ray while its direction evolves via Fermi-Walker derivative. Then we can
normalized $E$ as $mathbf{A}=frac{mathbf{E}}{left( mathbf{E}^{ast }%
mathbf{E}right) frac{1}{2}},, $
where $mathbf{E}^{ast }~$is the
conhugate of the $mathbf{E}.$ From now on, I choose to follow the
following method since it is much more close to geometry, which can also be
found in the article written by Mukunda and Simon 1993. According to this
approach, thinking of each $mathbf{t},mathbf{n},~and~mathbf{b}$ as three
component real column vectors we can write
begin{equation}
ifrac{d}{ds}Amathbf{=}HA,
end{equation}
%
$H=ikappa (nt^{T}-tn^{T}). $In addition to the evolution eq. 1 there is a
constrain $t^{T}A=0. $To solve the eq. 1 let us take
$$
A=alpha frac{mathbf{n}+imathbf{b}}{sqrt{2}}+beta frac{mathbf{n}-i%
mathbf{b}}{sqrt{2}}.
$$

For the the left hand side of the Eq. 1 if I use the Frenet frame I got
$$
ifrac{d}{ds}A=frac{i}{sqrt{2}}(kappa (-alpha -beta )mathbf{t+(}alpha
^{^{prime }}-alpha itau +beta ^{^{prime }}+beta itau )mathbf{n+(}%
alpha ^{^{prime }}i+alpha tau -beta ^{^{prime }}i+beta tau )mathbf{%
b.}$$

Now if I plug this into the Eq. 1 I got
begin{equation}
frac{i}{sqrt{2}}(kappa (-alpha -beta )mathbf{t+(}alpha ^{^{prime
}}-alpha itau +beta ^{^{prime }}+beta itau )mathbf{n+(}alpha
^{^{prime }}i+alpha tau -beta ^{^{prime }}i+beta tau )mathbf{b=}%
HA=ikappa (nt^{T}-tn^{T})A.
end{equation}
%
Now I have no idea how to deal with the right hand side of the equation. I
do not know what kind of operation do I need to reach to the following
results.
begin{eqnarray*}
alpha ^{^{prime }} &=&itau alpha , \
beta ^{prime } &=&-itau beta .
end{eqnarray*}
%
I have an idea but I could not convince myself. If for some reason I assume
the right hand side of the eq. 2 is zero then I have
begin{eqnarray*}
(-alpha -beta ) &=&0, \
mathbf{(}alpha ^{^{prime }}-alpha itau +beta ^{^{prime }}+beta itau
) &=&0, \
mathbf{(}alpha ^{^{prime }}i+alpha tau -beta ^{^{prime }}i+beta tau
) &=&0.
end{eqnarray*}
%
From the last two equation I actually get $alpha ^{^{prime }}=itau alpha
,~and, beta ^{prime }=-itau beta .$
However, I made the assumption
with no sense and also I do not know waht to do the first equation $(-alpha
-beta )=0$
even my assumption is correct coincidentally.










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    Hi everyone I am trying to understand the geometric phase along an optical
    optical fiber. I am a geometer and I am almost ok with the geometric part
    but I have some diffuculties to extract physical computation. So I need your
    help hoping to get my answer. Let me talk about some background on the
    subject.



    I am considering a geometric phase along the optical fiber as I told. To do
    that I consider a curve $x$ and suppose that the optical fiber is determined
    by this curve. According to Frenet frame it is known that
    begin{eqnarray*}
    mathbf{t}_{s} &=&kappa mathbf{n}, \
    mathbf{n}_{s} &=&-kappa mathbf{t}+tau mathbf{b}, \
    mathbf{b}_{s} &=&-tau mathbf{n},
    end{eqnarray*}
    %
    where $kappa ,tau ~$are the curvature and torsion of the given curve.



    I suppose that $mathbf{E}$ be the complex three component electric field
    vector at the point $x(s)$. The magnitude $mathbf{E}$ does vary along the
    ray while its direction evolves via Fermi-Walker derivative. Then we can
    normalized $E$ as $mathbf{A}=frac{mathbf{E}}{left( mathbf{E}^{ast }%
    mathbf{E}right) frac{1}{2}},, $
    where $mathbf{E}^{ast }~$is the
    conhugate of the $mathbf{E}.$ From now on, I choose to follow the
    following method since it is much more close to geometry, which can also be
    found in the article written by Mukunda and Simon 1993. According to this
    approach, thinking of each $mathbf{t},mathbf{n},~and~mathbf{b}$ as three
    component real column vectors we can write
    begin{equation}
    ifrac{d}{ds}Amathbf{=}HA,
    end{equation}
    %
    $H=ikappa (nt^{T}-tn^{T}). $In addition to the evolution eq. 1 there is a
    constrain $t^{T}A=0. $To solve the eq. 1 let us take
    $$
    A=alpha frac{mathbf{n}+imathbf{b}}{sqrt{2}}+beta frac{mathbf{n}-i%
    mathbf{b}}{sqrt{2}}.
    $$

    For the the left hand side of the Eq. 1 if I use the Frenet frame I got
    $$
    ifrac{d}{ds}A=frac{i}{sqrt{2}}(kappa (-alpha -beta )mathbf{t+(}alpha
    ^{^{prime }}-alpha itau +beta ^{^{prime }}+beta itau )mathbf{n+(}%
    alpha ^{^{prime }}i+alpha tau -beta ^{^{prime }}i+beta tau )mathbf{%
    b.}$$

    Now if I plug this into the Eq. 1 I got
    begin{equation}
    frac{i}{sqrt{2}}(kappa (-alpha -beta )mathbf{t+(}alpha ^{^{prime
    }}-alpha itau +beta ^{^{prime }}+beta itau )mathbf{n+(}alpha
    ^{^{prime }}i+alpha tau -beta ^{^{prime }}i+beta tau )mathbf{b=}%
    HA=ikappa (nt^{T}-tn^{T})A.
    end{equation}
    %
    Now I have no idea how to deal with the right hand side of the equation. I
    do not know what kind of operation do I need to reach to the following
    results.
    begin{eqnarray*}
    alpha ^{^{prime }} &=&itau alpha , \
    beta ^{prime } &=&-itau beta .
    end{eqnarray*}
    %
    I have an idea but I could not convince myself. If for some reason I assume
    the right hand side of the eq. 2 is zero then I have
    begin{eqnarray*}
    (-alpha -beta ) &=&0, \
    mathbf{(}alpha ^{^{prime }}-alpha itau +beta ^{^{prime }}+beta itau
    ) &=&0, \
    mathbf{(}alpha ^{^{prime }}i+alpha tau -beta ^{^{prime }}i+beta tau
    ) &=&0.
    end{eqnarray*}
    %
    From the last two equation I actually get $alpha ^{^{prime }}=itau alpha
    ,~and, beta ^{prime }=-itau beta .$
    However, I made the assumption
    with no sense and also I do not know waht to do the first equation $(-alpha
    -beta )=0$
    even my assumption is correct coincidentally.










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      Hi everyone I am trying to understand the geometric phase along an optical
      optical fiber. I am a geometer and I am almost ok with the geometric part
      but I have some diffuculties to extract physical computation. So I need your
      help hoping to get my answer. Let me talk about some background on the
      subject.



      I am considering a geometric phase along the optical fiber as I told. To do
      that I consider a curve $x$ and suppose that the optical fiber is determined
      by this curve. According to Frenet frame it is known that
      begin{eqnarray*}
      mathbf{t}_{s} &=&kappa mathbf{n}, \
      mathbf{n}_{s} &=&-kappa mathbf{t}+tau mathbf{b}, \
      mathbf{b}_{s} &=&-tau mathbf{n},
      end{eqnarray*}
      %
      where $kappa ,tau ~$are the curvature and torsion of the given curve.



      I suppose that $mathbf{E}$ be the complex three component electric field
      vector at the point $x(s)$. The magnitude $mathbf{E}$ does vary along the
      ray while its direction evolves via Fermi-Walker derivative. Then we can
      normalized $E$ as $mathbf{A}=frac{mathbf{E}}{left( mathbf{E}^{ast }%
      mathbf{E}right) frac{1}{2}},, $
      where $mathbf{E}^{ast }~$is the
      conhugate of the $mathbf{E}.$ From now on, I choose to follow the
      following method since it is much more close to geometry, which can also be
      found in the article written by Mukunda and Simon 1993. According to this
      approach, thinking of each $mathbf{t},mathbf{n},~and~mathbf{b}$ as three
      component real column vectors we can write
      begin{equation}
      ifrac{d}{ds}Amathbf{=}HA,
      end{equation}
      %
      $H=ikappa (nt^{T}-tn^{T}). $In addition to the evolution eq. 1 there is a
      constrain $t^{T}A=0. $To solve the eq. 1 let us take
      $$
      A=alpha frac{mathbf{n}+imathbf{b}}{sqrt{2}}+beta frac{mathbf{n}-i%
      mathbf{b}}{sqrt{2}}.
      $$

      For the the left hand side of the Eq. 1 if I use the Frenet frame I got
      $$
      ifrac{d}{ds}A=frac{i}{sqrt{2}}(kappa (-alpha -beta )mathbf{t+(}alpha
      ^{^{prime }}-alpha itau +beta ^{^{prime }}+beta itau )mathbf{n+(}%
      alpha ^{^{prime }}i+alpha tau -beta ^{^{prime }}i+beta tau )mathbf{%
      b.}$$

      Now if I plug this into the Eq. 1 I got
      begin{equation}
      frac{i}{sqrt{2}}(kappa (-alpha -beta )mathbf{t+(}alpha ^{^{prime
      }}-alpha itau +beta ^{^{prime }}+beta itau )mathbf{n+(}alpha
      ^{^{prime }}i+alpha tau -beta ^{^{prime }}i+beta tau )mathbf{b=}%
      HA=ikappa (nt^{T}-tn^{T})A.
      end{equation}
      %
      Now I have no idea how to deal with the right hand side of the equation. I
      do not know what kind of operation do I need to reach to the following
      results.
      begin{eqnarray*}
      alpha ^{^{prime }} &=&itau alpha , \
      beta ^{prime } &=&-itau beta .
      end{eqnarray*}
      %
      I have an idea but I could not convince myself. If for some reason I assume
      the right hand side of the eq. 2 is zero then I have
      begin{eqnarray*}
      (-alpha -beta ) &=&0, \
      mathbf{(}alpha ^{^{prime }}-alpha itau +beta ^{^{prime }}+beta itau
      ) &=&0, \
      mathbf{(}alpha ^{^{prime }}i+alpha tau -beta ^{^{prime }}i+beta tau
      ) &=&0.
      end{eqnarray*}
      %
      From the last two equation I actually get $alpha ^{^{prime }}=itau alpha
      ,~and, beta ^{prime }=-itau beta .$
      However, I made the assumption
      with no sense and also I do not know waht to do the first equation $(-alpha
      -beta )=0$
      even my assumption is correct coincidentally.










      share|cite|improve this question











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      Hi everyone I am trying to understand the geometric phase along an optical
      optical fiber. I am a geometer and I am almost ok with the geometric part
      but I have some diffuculties to extract physical computation. So I need your
      help hoping to get my answer. Let me talk about some background on the
      subject.



      I am considering a geometric phase along the optical fiber as I told. To do
      that I consider a curve $x$ and suppose that the optical fiber is determined
      by this curve. According to Frenet frame it is known that
      begin{eqnarray*}
      mathbf{t}_{s} &=&kappa mathbf{n}, \
      mathbf{n}_{s} &=&-kappa mathbf{t}+tau mathbf{b}, \
      mathbf{b}_{s} &=&-tau mathbf{n},
      end{eqnarray*}
      %
      where $kappa ,tau ~$are the curvature and torsion of the given curve.



      I suppose that $mathbf{E}$ be the complex three component electric field
      vector at the point $x(s)$. The magnitude $mathbf{E}$ does vary along the
      ray while its direction evolves via Fermi-Walker derivative. Then we can
      normalized $E$ as $mathbf{A}=frac{mathbf{E}}{left( mathbf{E}^{ast }%
      mathbf{E}right) frac{1}{2}},, $
      where $mathbf{E}^{ast }~$is the
      conhugate of the $mathbf{E}.$ From now on, I choose to follow the
      following method since it is much more close to geometry, which can also be
      found in the article written by Mukunda and Simon 1993. According to this
      approach, thinking of each $mathbf{t},mathbf{n},~and~mathbf{b}$ as three
      component real column vectors we can write
      begin{equation}
      ifrac{d}{ds}Amathbf{=}HA,
      end{equation}
      %
      $H=ikappa (nt^{T}-tn^{T}). $In addition to the evolution eq. 1 there is a
      constrain $t^{T}A=0. $To solve the eq. 1 let us take
      $$
      A=alpha frac{mathbf{n}+imathbf{b}}{sqrt{2}}+beta frac{mathbf{n}-i%
      mathbf{b}}{sqrt{2}}.
      $$

      For the the left hand side of the Eq. 1 if I use the Frenet frame I got
      $$
      ifrac{d}{ds}A=frac{i}{sqrt{2}}(kappa (-alpha -beta )mathbf{t+(}alpha
      ^{^{prime }}-alpha itau +beta ^{^{prime }}+beta itau )mathbf{n+(}%
      alpha ^{^{prime }}i+alpha tau -beta ^{^{prime }}i+beta tau )mathbf{%
      b.}$$

      Now if I plug this into the Eq. 1 I got
      begin{equation}
      frac{i}{sqrt{2}}(kappa (-alpha -beta )mathbf{t+(}alpha ^{^{prime
      }}-alpha itau +beta ^{^{prime }}+beta itau )mathbf{n+(}alpha
      ^{^{prime }}i+alpha tau -beta ^{^{prime }}i+beta tau )mathbf{b=}%
      HA=ikappa (nt^{T}-tn^{T})A.
      end{equation}
      %
      Now I have no idea how to deal with the right hand side of the equation. I
      do not know what kind of operation do I need to reach to the following
      results.
      begin{eqnarray*}
      alpha ^{^{prime }} &=&itau alpha , \
      beta ^{prime } &=&-itau beta .
      end{eqnarray*}
      %
      I have an idea but I could not convince myself. If for some reason I assume
      the right hand side of the eq. 2 is zero then I have
      begin{eqnarray*}
      (-alpha -beta ) &=&0, \
      mathbf{(}alpha ^{^{prime }}-alpha itau +beta ^{^{prime }}+beta itau
      ) &=&0, \
      mathbf{(}alpha ^{^{prime }}i+alpha tau -beta ^{^{prime }}i+beta tau
      ) &=&0.
      end{eqnarray*}
      %
      From the last two equation I actually get $alpha ^{^{prime }}=itau alpha
      ,~and, beta ^{prime }=-itau beta .$
      However, I made the assumption
      with no sense and also I do not know waht to do the first equation $(-alpha
      -beta )=0$
      even my assumption is correct coincidentally.







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