$dy/dx = y sin x-2sin x$, $y(0) = 0$ — Initial Value Problem
$$frac{dy}{dx} = ysin x-2sin x, quad y(0) = 0.$$
Initial Value Problem
Hint says: Find an integrating factor
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$$frac{dy}{dx} = ysin x-2sin x, quad y(0) = 0.$$
Initial Value Problem
Hint says: Find an integrating factor
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$$frac{dy}{dx} = ysin x-2sin x, quad y(0) = 0.$$
Initial Value Problem
Hint says: Find an integrating factor
differential-equations
$$frac{dy}{dx} = ysin x-2sin x, quad y(0) = 0.$$
Initial Value Problem
Hint says: Find an integrating factor
differential-equations
differential-equations
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No I do not. What is an integrating factor?
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When we have a linear differential equation $y'+P(x)y=Q(x)$ of order 1 then $mu (x)=e^{int P(x) dx}$will be an integrating factor. In your case, it is $mu(x)=e^{cos(x)}$. Now multiply it both sides of the equation and you see $$d(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)}$$ The rest is easy.
What do I do next?
– Ryan
Oct 4 '12 at 21:15
@Ryan: Did you get the right answer? :-)
– mrs
Oct 5 '12 at 7:17
I think with your help, Ryan got the right answer! +1
– amWhy
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The simplest type of this ODE is that separable rather than linear. So it is not necessary to treat it as a linear ODE to solve.
$dfrac{dy}{dx}=ysin x-2sin x$
$dfrac{dy}{dx}=(y-2)sin x$
$dfrac{dy}{y-2}=sin x~dx$
$intdfrac{dy}{y-2}=intsin x~dx$
$ln(y-2)=-cos x+c$
$y-2=Ce^{-cos x}$
$y=Ce^{-cos x}+2$
$y(0)=0$ :
$Ce^{-1}+2=0$
$C=-2e$
$therefore y=-2ee^{-cos x}+2=2-2e^{1-cos x}$
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If a differential equation has the form
$$ y'(x)+p(x)y(x)=q(x),, quad (1), $$ then the integrating factor is given by
$$ m(x)= {rm e}^{int p(x) dx},. $$
You need to write your ode in the form of $(1)$ and then find the integrating factor. Then just multiply the original equation by the interating factor and integrate
$$ (m(x)y)'= q(x) Rightarrow frac{d}{dx}(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)} $$
$$ Rightarrow e^{cos(x)}y(x)=2int e^{cos(x)}(-sin(x))dx + C = 2e^{cos(x)} +C $$
$$ y(x)= 2 + C ,{rm e}^{-cos(x)} ,.$$
To find $C$, you need to use the initial condition $y(0)=0$,
$$ y(0) = 0 = 2 + C{rm e}^{-cos(0)} Rightarrow C = -2 {rm e}$$
Substituting the value of $C$ in the solution gives
$$ y(x)= 2 - 2 ,{rm e}^{1-cos(x)} ,.$$
So I got the integral, but how would I integrate: e^(coax)y(x)?
– Ryan
Oct 4 '12 at 21:20
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Hint: Write it as $frac{y'}{y-2}=sin(x)$ and integrate.
The answer above is correct. However, if the person asking the question insists you use the hint, then you write the ODE as $
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When we have a linear differential equation $y'+P(x)y=Q(x)$ of order 1 then $mu (x)=e^{int P(x) dx}$will be an integrating factor. In your case, it is $mu(x)=e^{cos(x)}$. Now multiply it both sides of the equation and you see $$d(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)}$$ The rest is easy.
What do I do next?
– Ryan
Oct 4 '12 at 21:15
@Ryan: Did you get the right answer? :-)
– mrs
Oct 5 '12 at 7:17
I think with your help, Ryan got the right answer! +1
– amWhy
Mar 23 '13 at 0:44
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When we have a linear differential equation $y'+P(x)y=Q(x)$ of order 1 then $mu (x)=e^{int P(x) dx}$will be an integrating factor. In your case, it is $mu(x)=e^{cos(x)}$. Now multiply it both sides of the equation and you see $$d(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)}$$ The rest is easy.
What do I do next?
– Ryan
Oct 4 '12 at 21:15
@Ryan: Did you get the right answer? :-)
– mrs
Oct 5 '12 at 7:17
I think with your help, Ryan got the right answer! +1
– amWhy
Mar 23 '13 at 0:44
add a comment |
When we have a linear differential equation $y'+P(x)y=Q(x)$ of order 1 then $mu (x)=e^{int P(x) dx}$will be an integrating factor. In your case, it is $mu(x)=e^{cos(x)}$. Now multiply it both sides of the equation and you see $$d(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)}$$ The rest is easy.
When we have a linear differential equation $y'+P(x)y=Q(x)$ of order 1 then $mu (x)=e^{int P(x) dx}$will be an integrating factor. In your case, it is $mu(x)=e^{cos(x)}$. Now multiply it both sides of the equation and you see $$d(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)}$$ The rest is easy.
answered Oct 4 '12 at 21:08
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What do I do next?
– Ryan
Oct 4 '12 at 21:15
@Ryan: Did you get the right answer? :-)
– mrs
Oct 5 '12 at 7:17
I think with your help, Ryan got the right answer! +1
– amWhy
Mar 23 '13 at 0:44
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What do I do next?
– Ryan
Oct 4 '12 at 21:15
@Ryan: Did you get the right answer? :-)
– mrs
Oct 5 '12 at 7:17
I think with your help, Ryan got the right answer! +1
– amWhy
Mar 23 '13 at 0:44
What do I do next?
– Ryan
Oct 4 '12 at 21:15
What do I do next?
– Ryan
Oct 4 '12 at 21:15
@Ryan: Did you get the right answer? :-)
– mrs
Oct 5 '12 at 7:17
@Ryan: Did you get the right answer? :-)
– mrs
Oct 5 '12 at 7:17
I think with your help, Ryan got the right answer! +1
– amWhy
Mar 23 '13 at 0:44
I think with your help, Ryan got the right answer! +1
– amWhy
Mar 23 '13 at 0:44
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The simplest type of this ODE is that separable rather than linear. So it is not necessary to treat it as a linear ODE to solve.
$dfrac{dy}{dx}=ysin x-2sin x$
$dfrac{dy}{dx}=(y-2)sin x$
$dfrac{dy}{y-2}=sin x~dx$
$intdfrac{dy}{y-2}=intsin x~dx$
$ln(y-2)=-cos x+c$
$y-2=Ce^{-cos x}$
$y=Ce^{-cos x}+2$
$y(0)=0$ :
$Ce^{-1}+2=0$
$C=-2e$
$therefore y=-2ee^{-cos x}+2=2-2e^{1-cos x}$
add a comment |
The simplest type of this ODE is that separable rather than linear. So it is not necessary to treat it as a linear ODE to solve.
$dfrac{dy}{dx}=ysin x-2sin x$
$dfrac{dy}{dx}=(y-2)sin x$
$dfrac{dy}{y-2}=sin x~dx$
$intdfrac{dy}{y-2}=intsin x~dx$
$ln(y-2)=-cos x+c$
$y-2=Ce^{-cos x}$
$y=Ce^{-cos x}+2$
$y(0)=0$ :
$Ce^{-1}+2=0$
$C=-2e$
$therefore y=-2ee^{-cos x}+2=2-2e^{1-cos x}$
add a comment |
The simplest type of this ODE is that separable rather than linear. So it is not necessary to treat it as a linear ODE to solve.
$dfrac{dy}{dx}=ysin x-2sin x$
$dfrac{dy}{dx}=(y-2)sin x$
$dfrac{dy}{y-2}=sin x~dx$
$intdfrac{dy}{y-2}=intsin x~dx$
$ln(y-2)=-cos x+c$
$y-2=Ce^{-cos x}$
$y=Ce^{-cos x}+2$
$y(0)=0$ :
$Ce^{-1}+2=0$
$C=-2e$
$therefore y=-2ee^{-cos x}+2=2-2e^{1-cos x}$
The simplest type of this ODE is that separable rather than linear. So it is not necessary to treat it as a linear ODE to solve.
$dfrac{dy}{dx}=ysin x-2sin x$
$dfrac{dy}{dx}=(y-2)sin x$
$dfrac{dy}{y-2}=sin x~dx$
$intdfrac{dy}{y-2}=intsin x~dx$
$ln(y-2)=-cos x+c$
$y-2=Ce^{-cos x}$
$y=Ce^{-cos x}+2$
$y(0)=0$ :
$Ce^{-1}+2=0$
$C=-2e$
$therefore y=-2ee^{-cos x}+2=2-2e^{1-cos x}$
answered Oct 4 '12 at 23:37
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If a differential equation has the form
$$ y'(x)+p(x)y(x)=q(x),, quad (1), $$ then the integrating factor is given by
$$ m(x)= {rm e}^{int p(x) dx},. $$
You need to write your ode in the form of $(1)$ and then find the integrating factor. Then just multiply the original equation by the interating factor and integrate
$$ (m(x)y)'= q(x) Rightarrow frac{d}{dx}(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)} $$
$$ Rightarrow e^{cos(x)}y(x)=2int e^{cos(x)}(-sin(x))dx + C = 2e^{cos(x)} +C $$
$$ y(x)= 2 + C ,{rm e}^{-cos(x)} ,.$$
To find $C$, you need to use the initial condition $y(0)=0$,
$$ y(0) = 0 = 2 + C{rm e}^{-cos(0)} Rightarrow C = -2 {rm e}$$
Substituting the value of $C$ in the solution gives
$$ y(x)= 2 - 2 ,{rm e}^{1-cos(x)} ,.$$
So I got the integral, but how would I integrate: e^(coax)y(x)?
– Ryan
Oct 4 '12 at 21:20
add a comment |
If a differential equation has the form
$$ y'(x)+p(x)y(x)=q(x),, quad (1), $$ then the integrating factor is given by
$$ m(x)= {rm e}^{int p(x) dx},. $$
You need to write your ode in the form of $(1)$ and then find the integrating factor. Then just multiply the original equation by the interating factor and integrate
$$ (m(x)y)'= q(x) Rightarrow frac{d}{dx}(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)} $$
$$ Rightarrow e^{cos(x)}y(x)=2int e^{cos(x)}(-sin(x))dx + C = 2e^{cos(x)} +C $$
$$ y(x)= 2 + C ,{rm e}^{-cos(x)} ,.$$
To find $C$, you need to use the initial condition $y(0)=0$,
$$ y(0) = 0 = 2 + C{rm e}^{-cos(0)} Rightarrow C = -2 {rm e}$$
Substituting the value of $C$ in the solution gives
$$ y(x)= 2 - 2 ,{rm e}^{1-cos(x)} ,.$$
So I got the integral, but how would I integrate: e^(coax)y(x)?
– Ryan
Oct 4 '12 at 21:20
add a comment |
If a differential equation has the form
$$ y'(x)+p(x)y(x)=q(x),, quad (1), $$ then the integrating factor is given by
$$ m(x)= {rm e}^{int p(x) dx},. $$
You need to write your ode in the form of $(1)$ and then find the integrating factor. Then just multiply the original equation by the interating factor and integrate
$$ (m(x)y)'= q(x) Rightarrow frac{d}{dx}(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)} $$
$$ Rightarrow e^{cos(x)}y(x)=2int e^{cos(x)}(-sin(x))dx + C = 2e^{cos(x)} +C $$
$$ y(x)= 2 + C ,{rm e}^{-cos(x)} ,.$$
To find $C$, you need to use the initial condition $y(0)=0$,
$$ y(0) = 0 = 2 + C{rm e}^{-cos(0)} Rightarrow C = -2 {rm e}$$
Substituting the value of $C$ in the solution gives
$$ y(x)= 2 - 2 ,{rm e}^{1-cos(x)} ,.$$
If a differential equation has the form
$$ y'(x)+p(x)y(x)=q(x),, quad (1), $$ then the integrating factor is given by
$$ m(x)= {rm e}^{int p(x) dx},. $$
You need to write your ode in the form of $(1)$ and then find the integrating factor. Then just multiply the original equation by the interating factor and integrate
$$ (m(x)y)'= q(x) Rightarrow frac{d}{dx}(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)} $$
$$ Rightarrow e^{cos(x)}y(x)=2int e^{cos(x)}(-sin(x))dx + C = 2e^{cos(x)} +C $$
$$ y(x)= 2 + C ,{rm e}^{-cos(x)} ,.$$
To find $C$, you need to use the initial condition $y(0)=0$,
$$ y(0) = 0 = 2 + C{rm e}^{-cos(0)} Rightarrow C = -2 {rm e}$$
Substituting the value of $C$ in the solution gives
$$ y(x)= 2 - 2 ,{rm e}^{1-cos(x)} ,.$$
edited Oct 6 '12 at 5:26
answered Oct 4 '12 at 21:16
Mhenni BenghorbalMhenni Benghorbal
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So I got the integral, but how would I integrate: e^(coax)y(x)?
– Ryan
Oct 4 '12 at 21:20
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So I got the integral, but how would I integrate: e^(coax)y(x)?
– Ryan
Oct 4 '12 at 21:20
So I got the integral, but how would I integrate: e^(coax)y(x)?
– Ryan
Oct 4 '12 at 21:20
So I got the integral, but how would I integrate: e^(coax)y(x)?
– Ryan
Oct 4 '12 at 21:20
add a comment |
Hint: Write it as $frac{y'}{y-2}=sin(x)$ and integrate.
The answer above is correct. However, if the person asking the question insists you use the hint, then you write the ODE as $
– Stefan Smith
Oct 4 '12 at 21:06
add a comment |
Hint: Write it as $frac{y'}{y-2}=sin(x)$ and integrate.
The answer above is correct. However, if the person asking the question insists you use the hint, then you write the ODE as $
– Stefan Smith
Oct 4 '12 at 21:06
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Hint: Write it as $frac{y'}{y-2}=sin(x)$ and integrate.
Hint: Write it as $frac{y'}{y-2}=sin(x)$ and integrate.
answered Oct 4 '12 at 21:02
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The answer above is correct. However, if the person asking the question insists you use the hint, then you write the ODE as $
– Stefan Smith
Oct 4 '12 at 21:06
add a comment |
The answer above is correct. However, if the person asking the question insists you use the hint, then you write the ODE as $
– Stefan Smith
Oct 4 '12 at 21:06
The answer above is correct. However, if the person asking the question insists you use the hint, then you write the ODE as $
– Stefan Smith
Oct 4 '12 at 21:06
The answer above is correct. However, if the person asking the question insists you use the hint, then you write the ODE as $
– Stefan Smith
Oct 4 '12 at 21:06
add a comment |
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No I do not. What is an integrating factor?
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I still cannot figure this out.
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