$dy/dx = y sin x-2sin x$, $y(0) = 0$ — Initial Value Problem












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$$frac{dy}{dx} = ysin x-2sin x, quad y(0) = 0.$$



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Hint says: Find an integrating factor










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$$frac{dy}{dx} = ysin x-2sin x, quad y(0) = 0.$$



Initial Value Problem



Hint says: Find an integrating factor










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  • I still cannot figure this out.
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$$frac{dy}{dx} = ysin x-2sin x, quad y(0) = 0.$$



Initial Value Problem



Hint says: Find an integrating factor










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$$frac{dy}{dx} = ysin x-2sin x, quad y(0) = 0.$$



Initial Value Problem



Hint says: Find an integrating factor







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  • No I do not. What is an integrating factor?
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  • I still cannot figure this out.
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  • No I do not. What is an integrating factor?
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    Oct 4 '12 at 21:06










  • I still cannot figure this out.
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    Oct 4 '12 at 21:30








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No I do not. What is an integrating factor?
– Ryan
Oct 4 '12 at 21:06




No I do not. What is an integrating factor?
– Ryan
Oct 4 '12 at 21:06












I still cannot figure this out.
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Oct 4 '12 at 21:30




I still cannot figure this out.
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When we have a linear differential equation $y'+P(x)y=Q(x)$ of order 1 then $mu (x)=e^{int P(x) dx}$will be an integrating factor. In your case, it is $mu(x)=e^{cos(x)}$. Now multiply it both sides of the equation and you see $$d(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)}$$ The rest is easy.






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    – Ryan
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  • @Ryan: Did you get the right answer? :-)
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The simplest type of this ODE is that separable rather than linear. So it is not necessary to treat it as a linear ODE to solve.



$dfrac{dy}{dx}=ysin x-2sin x$



$dfrac{dy}{dx}=(y-2)sin x$



$dfrac{dy}{y-2}=sin x~dx$



$intdfrac{dy}{y-2}=intsin x~dx$



$ln(y-2)=-cos x+c$



$y-2=Ce^{-cos x}$



$y=Ce^{-cos x}+2$



$y(0)=0$ :



$Ce^{-1}+2=0$



$C=-2e$



$therefore y=-2ee^{-cos x}+2=2-2e^{1-cos x}$






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    If a differential equation has the form



    $$ y'(x)+p(x)y(x)=q(x),, quad (1), $$ then the integrating factor is given by



    $$ m(x)= {rm e}^{int p(x) dx},. $$



    You need to write your ode in the form of $(1)$ and then find the integrating factor. Then just multiply the original equation by the interating factor and integrate



    $$ (m(x)y)'= q(x) Rightarrow frac{d}{dx}(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)} $$



    $$ Rightarrow e^{cos(x)}y(x)=2int e^{cos(x)}(-sin(x))dx + C = 2e^{cos(x)} +C $$



    $$ y(x)= 2 + C ,{rm e}^{-cos(x)} ,.$$



    To find $C$, you need to use the initial condition $y(0)=0$,



    $$ y(0) = 0 = 2 + C{rm e}^{-cos(0)} Rightarrow C = -2 {rm e}$$



    Substituting the value of $C$ in the solution gives



    $$ y(x)= 2 - 2 ,{rm e}^{1-cos(x)} ,.$$






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    • So I got the integral, but how would I integrate: e^(coax)y(x)?
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    Hint: Write it as $frac{y'}{y-2}=sin(x)$ and integrate.






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    • The answer above is correct. However, if the person asking the question insists you use the hint, then you write the ODE as $
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    When we have a linear differential equation $y'+P(x)y=Q(x)$ of order 1 then $mu (x)=e^{int P(x) dx}$will be an integrating factor. In your case, it is $mu(x)=e^{cos(x)}$. Now multiply it both sides of the equation and you see $$d(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)}$$ The rest is easy.






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    • What do I do next?
      – Ryan
      Oct 4 '12 at 21:15










    • @Ryan: Did you get the right answer? :-)
      – mrs
      Oct 5 '12 at 7:17










    • I think with your help, Ryan got the right answer! +1
      – amWhy
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    When we have a linear differential equation $y'+P(x)y=Q(x)$ of order 1 then $mu (x)=e^{int P(x) dx}$will be an integrating factor. In your case, it is $mu(x)=e^{cos(x)}$. Now multiply it both sides of the equation and you see $$d(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)}$$ The rest is easy.






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    • What do I do next?
      – Ryan
      Oct 4 '12 at 21:15










    • @Ryan: Did you get the right answer? :-)
      – mrs
      Oct 5 '12 at 7:17










    • I think with your help, Ryan got the right answer! +1
      – amWhy
      Mar 23 '13 at 0:44














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    When we have a linear differential equation $y'+P(x)y=Q(x)$ of order 1 then $mu (x)=e^{int P(x) dx}$will be an integrating factor. In your case, it is $mu(x)=e^{cos(x)}$. Now multiply it both sides of the equation and you see $$d(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)}$$ The rest is easy.






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    When we have a linear differential equation $y'+P(x)y=Q(x)$ of order 1 then $mu (x)=e^{int P(x) dx}$will be an integrating factor. In your case, it is $mu(x)=e^{cos(x)}$. Now multiply it both sides of the equation and you see $$d(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)}$$ The rest is easy.







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    • What do I do next?
      – Ryan
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    • @Ryan: Did you get the right answer? :-)
      – mrs
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    • I think with your help, Ryan got the right answer! +1
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    • What do I do next?
      – Ryan
      Oct 4 '12 at 21:15










    • @Ryan: Did you get the right answer? :-)
      – mrs
      Oct 5 '12 at 7:17










    • I think with your help, Ryan got the right answer! +1
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      Mar 23 '13 at 0:44
















    What do I do next?
    – Ryan
    Oct 4 '12 at 21:15




    What do I do next?
    – Ryan
    Oct 4 '12 at 21:15












    @Ryan: Did you get the right answer? :-)
    – mrs
    Oct 5 '12 at 7:17




    @Ryan: Did you get the right answer? :-)
    – mrs
    Oct 5 '12 at 7:17












    I think with your help, Ryan got the right answer! +1
    – amWhy
    Mar 23 '13 at 0:44




    I think with your help, Ryan got the right answer! +1
    – amWhy
    Mar 23 '13 at 0:44











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    The simplest type of this ODE is that separable rather than linear. So it is not necessary to treat it as a linear ODE to solve.



    $dfrac{dy}{dx}=ysin x-2sin x$



    $dfrac{dy}{dx}=(y-2)sin x$



    $dfrac{dy}{y-2}=sin x~dx$



    $intdfrac{dy}{y-2}=intsin x~dx$



    $ln(y-2)=-cos x+c$



    $y-2=Ce^{-cos x}$



    $y=Ce^{-cos x}+2$



    $y(0)=0$ :



    $Ce^{-1}+2=0$



    $C=-2e$



    $therefore y=-2ee^{-cos x}+2=2-2e^{1-cos x}$






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      The simplest type of this ODE is that separable rather than linear. So it is not necessary to treat it as a linear ODE to solve.



      $dfrac{dy}{dx}=ysin x-2sin x$



      $dfrac{dy}{dx}=(y-2)sin x$



      $dfrac{dy}{y-2}=sin x~dx$



      $intdfrac{dy}{y-2}=intsin x~dx$



      $ln(y-2)=-cos x+c$



      $y-2=Ce^{-cos x}$



      $y=Ce^{-cos x}+2$



      $y(0)=0$ :



      $Ce^{-1}+2=0$



      $C=-2e$



      $therefore y=-2ee^{-cos x}+2=2-2e^{1-cos x}$






      share|cite|improve this answer
























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        The simplest type of this ODE is that separable rather than linear. So it is not necessary to treat it as a linear ODE to solve.



        $dfrac{dy}{dx}=ysin x-2sin x$



        $dfrac{dy}{dx}=(y-2)sin x$



        $dfrac{dy}{y-2}=sin x~dx$



        $intdfrac{dy}{y-2}=intsin x~dx$



        $ln(y-2)=-cos x+c$



        $y-2=Ce^{-cos x}$



        $y=Ce^{-cos x}+2$



        $y(0)=0$ :



        $Ce^{-1}+2=0$



        $C=-2e$



        $therefore y=-2ee^{-cos x}+2=2-2e^{1-cos x}$






        share|cite|improve this answer












        The simplest type of this ODE is that separable rather than linear. So it is not necessary to treat it as a linear ODE to solve.



        $dfrac{dy}{dx}=ysin x-2sin x$



        $dfrac{dy}{dx}=(y-2)sin x$



        $dfrac{dy}{y-2}=sin x~dx$



        $intdfrac{dy}{y-2}=intsin x~dx$



        $ln(y-2)=-cos x+c$



        $y-2=Ce^{-cos x}$



        $y=Ce^{-cos x}+2$



        $y(0)=0$ :



        $Ce^{-1}+2=0$



        $C=-2e$



        $therefore y=-2ee^{-cos x}+2=2-2e^{1-cos x}$







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            If a differential equation has the form



            $$ y'(x)+p(x)y(x)=q(x),, quad (1), $$ then the integrating factor is given by



            $$ m(x)= {rm e}^{int p(x) dx},. $$



            You need to write your ode in the form of $(1)$ and then find the integrating factor. Then just multiply the original equation by the interating factor and integrate



            $$ (m(x)y)'= q(x) Rightarrow frac{d}{dx}(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)} $$



            $$ Rightarrow e^{cos(x)}y(x)=2int e^{cos(x)}(-sin(x))dx + C = 2e^{cos(x)} +C $$



            $$ y(x)= 2 + C ,{rm e}^{-cos(x)} ,.$$



            To find $C$, you need to use the initial condition $y(0)=0$,



            $$ y(0) = 0 = 2 + C{rm e}^{-cos(0)} Rightarrow C = -2 {rm e}$$



            Substituting the value of $C$ in the solution gives



            $$ y(x)= 2 - 2 ,{rm e}^{1-cos(x)} ,.$$






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            • So I got the integral, but how would I integrate: e^(coax)y(x)?
              – Ryan
              Oct 4 '12 at 21:20
















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            If a differential equation has the form



            $$ y'(x)+p(x)y(x)=q(x),, quad (1), $$ then the integrating factor is given by



            $$ m(x)= {rm e}^{int p(x) dx},. $$



            You need to write your ode in the form of $(1)$ and then find the integrating factor. Then just multiply the original equation by the interating factor and integrate



            $$ (m(x)y)'= q(x) Rightarrow frac{d}{dx}(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)} $$



            $$ Rightarrow e^{cos(x)}y(x)=2int e^{cos(x)}(-sin(x))dx + C = 2e^{cos(x)} +C $$



            $$ y(x)= 2 + C ,{rm e}^{-cos(x)} ,.$$



            To find $C$, you need to use the initial condition $y(0)=0$,



            $$ y(0) = 0 = 2 + C{rm e}^{-cos(0)} Rightarrow C = -2 {rm e}$$



            Substituting the value of $C$ in the solution gives



            $$ y(x)= 2 - 2 ,{rm e}^{1-cos(x)} ,.$$






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            • So I got the integral, but how would I integrate: e^(coax)y(x)?
              – Ryan
              Oct 4 '12 at 21:20














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            If a differential equation has the form



            $$ y'(x)+p(x)y(x)=q(x),, quad (1), $$ then the integrating factor is given by



            $$ m(x)= {rm e}^{int p(x) dx},. $$



            You need to write your ode in the form of $(1)$ and then find the integrating factor. Then just multiply the original equation by the interating factor and integrate



            $$ (m(x)y)'= q(x) Rightarrow frac{d}{dx}(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)} $$



            $$ Rightarrow e^{cos(x)}y(x)=2int e^{cos(x)}(-sin(x))dx + C = 2e^{cos(x)} +C $$



            $$ y(x)= 2 + C ,{rm e}^{-cos(x)} ,.$$



            To find $C$, you need to use the initial condition $y(0)=0$,



            $$ y(0) = 0 = 2 + C{rm e}^{-cos(0)} Rightarrow C = -2 {rm e}$$



            Substituting the value of $C$ in the solution gives



            $$ y(x)= 2 - 2 ,{rm e}^{1-cos(x)} ,.$$






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            If a differential equation has the form



            $$ y'(x)+p(x)y(x)=q(x),, quad (1), $$ then the integrating factor is given by



            $$ m(x)= {rm e}^{int p(x) dx},. $$



            You need to write your ode in the form of $(1)$ and then find the integrating factor. Then just multiply the original equation by the interating factor and integrate



            $$ (m(x)y)'= q(x) Rightarrow frac{d}{dx}(e^{cos(x)}y)=-2sin(x)e^{cos(x)} $$



            $$ Rightarrow e^{cos(x)}y(x)=2int e^{cos(x)}(-sin(x))dx + C = 2e^{cos(x)} +C $$



            $$ y(x)= 2 + C ,{rm e}^{-cos(x)} ,.$$



            To find $C$, you need to use the initial condition $y(0)=0$,



            $$ y(0) = 0 = 2 + C{rm e}^{-cos(0)} Rightarrow C = -2 {rm e}$$



            Substituting the value of $C$ in the solution gives



            $$ y(x)= 2 - 2 ,{rm e}^{1-cos(x)} ,.$$







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            • So I got the integral, but how would I integrate: e^(coax)y(x)?
              – Ryan
              Oct 4 '12 at 21:20


















            • So I got the integral, but how would I integrate: e^(coax)y(x)?
              – Ryan
              Oct 4 '12 at 21:20
















            So I got the integral, but how would I integrate: e^(coax)y(x)?
            – Ryan
            Oct 4 '12 at 21:20




            So I got the integral, but how would I integrate: e^(coax)y(x)?
            – Ryan
            Oct 4 '12 at 21:20











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            Hint: Write it as $frac{y'}{y-2}=sin(x)$ and integrate.






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            • The answer above is correct. However, if the person asking the question insists you use the hint, then you write the ODE as $
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            Hint: Write it as $frac{y'}{y-2}=sin(x)$ and integrate.






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            • The answer above is correct. However, if the person asking the question insists you use the hint, then you write the ODE as $
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            Hint: Write it as $frac{y'}{y-2}=sin(x)$ and integrate.






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            Hint: Write it as $frac{y'}{y-2}=sin(x)$ and integrate.







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            • The answer above is correct. However, if the person asking the question insists you use the hint, then you write the ODE as $
              – Stefan Smith
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            • The answer above is correct. However, if the person asking the question insists you use the hint, then you write the ODE as $
              – Stefan Smith
              Oct 4 '12 at 21:06
















            The answer above is correct. However, if the person asking the question insists you use the hint, then you write the ODE as $
            – Stefan Smith
            Oct 4 '12 at 21:06




            The answer above is correct. However, if the person asking the question insists you use the hint, then you write the ODE as $
            – Stefan Smith
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