How to define this application g to meet $Im space g subseteq T$?












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Let $S$ be the subspace of matrix 2x2 in $mathbb R$ formed by symetrical matrix and $T$ the one formed by the matrix of trace zero.



Let $A=left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0\ 2 & 0 end{array}right)$ and $f:Srightarrow T$ linear given by $f(M)=AM-MA.$



So the first question is to get $mathcal B_1$ and $mathcal B_2$ basis os $S$ and $T$ so the matrix of $f$ is $A=left(begin{array}{cc} I_r & 0\ 0 & 0 end{array}right)$.



So I ended up with:



$mathcal B_1$ :$left(begin{array}{cc} 0& 0\ 1 & 0 end{array}right)$$left(begin{array}{cc} 0 & 1\ 0 & 0 end{array}right)$$left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0\ 0 & 1 end{array}right)$.



$mathcal B_2$ : $left(begin{array}{cc} 0& 0\ -1 & 0 end{array}right)$$left(begin{array}{cc} -2 & 1\ 0 & 2 end{array}right)$$left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0\ 1 & 0 end{array}right)$



then the matrix of $f$ is: $left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0 & 0\ 0 & 1 &0\0&0&0end{array}right)$.



But now they ask me to find the applications $g:Srightarrow S$ with $fcirc g=f$ and express their matrix respect $mathcal B_1$(g is linear).



So here I got that those g are the ones with matrix: $left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0 & 0\ 0 & 1 &0\a&b&cend{array}right)$ .



With $a,b,cin mathbb R$.
But I don't know how to start with the next question.
Of all those g, find the ONLY ONE that meets $Imspace g subseteq T$.



How to start? Any hint?










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    How are the members of your $mathcal B_i$ elements of $S$ or $T$?
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$begingroup$


Let $S$ be the subspace of matrix 2x2 in $mathbb R$ formed by symetrical matrix and $T$ the one formed by the matrix of trace zero.



Let $A=left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0\ 2 & 0 end{array}right)$ and $f:Srightarrow T$ linear given by $f(M)=AM-MA.$



So the first question is to get $mathcal B_1$ and $mathcal B_2$ basis os $S$ and $T$ so the matrix of $f$ is $A=left(begin{array}{cc} I_r & 0\ 0 & 0 end{array}right)$.



So I ended up with:



$mathcal B_1$ :$left(begin{array}{cc} 0& 0\ 1 & 0 end{array}right)$$left(begin{array}{cc} 0 & 1\ 0 & 0 end{array}right)$$left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0\ 0 & 1 end{array}right)$.



$mathcal B_2$ : $left(begin{array}{cc} 0& 0\ -1 & 0 end{array}right)$$left(begin{array}{cc} -2 & 1\ 0 & 2 end{array}right)$$left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0\ 1 & 0 end{array}right)$



then the matrix of $f$ is: $left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0 & 0\ 0 & 1 &0\0&0&0end{array}right)$.



But now they ask me to find the applications $g:Srightarrow S$ with $fcirc g=f$ and express their matrix respect $mathcal B_1$(g is linear).



So here I got that those g are the ones with matrix: $left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0 & 0\ 0 & 1 &0\a&b&cend{array}right)$ .



With $a,b,cin mathbb R$.
But I don't know how to start with the next question.
Of all those g, find the ONLY ONE that meets $Imspace g subseteq T$.



How to start? Any hint?










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    How are the members of your $mathcal B_i$ elements of $S$ or $T$?
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    Dec 31 '18 at 0:39
















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$begingroup$


Let $S$ be the subspace of matrix 2x2 in $mathbb R$ formed by symetrical matrix and $T$ the one formed by the matrix of trace zero.



Let $A=left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0\ 2 & 0 end{array}right)$ and $f:Srightarrow T$ linear given by $f(M)=AM-MA.$



So the first question is to get $mathcal B_1$ and $mathcal B_2$ basis os $S$ and $T$ so the matrix of $f$ is $A=left(begin{array}{cc} I_r & 0\ 0 & 0 end{array}right)$.



So I ended up with:



$mathcal B_1$ :$left(begin{array}{cc} 0& 0\ 1 & 0 end{array}right)$$left(begin{array}{cc} 0 & 1\ 0 & 0 end{array}right)$$left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0\ 0 & 1 end{array}right)$.



$mathcal B_2$ : $left(begin{array}{cc} 0& 0\ -1 & 0 end{array}right)$$left(begin{array}{cc} -2 & 1\ 0 & 2 end{array}right)$$left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0\ 1 & 0 end{array}right)$



then the matrix of $f$ is: $left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0 & 0\ 0 & 1 &0\0&0&0end{array}right)$.



But now they ask me to find the applications $g:Srightarrow S$ with $fcirc g=f$ and express their matrix respect $mathcal B_1$(g is linear).



So here I got that those g are the ones with matrix: $left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0 & 0\ 0 & 1 &0\a&b&cend{array}right)$ .



With $a,b,cin mathbb R$.
But I don't know how to start with the next question.
Of all those g, find the ONLY ONE that meets $Imspace g subseteq T$.



How to start? Any hint?










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Let $S$ be the subspace of matrix 2x2 in $mathbb R$ formed by symetrical matrix and $T$ the one formed by the matrix of trace zero.



Let $A=left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0\ 2 & 0 end{array}right)$ and $f:Srightarrow T$ linear given by $f(M)=AM-MA.$



So the first question is to get $mathcal B_1$ and $mathcal B_2$ basis os $S$ and $T$ so the matrix of $f$ is $A=left(begin{array}{cc} I_r & 0\ 0 & 0 end{array}right)$.



So I ended up with:



$mathcal B_1$ :$left(begin{array}{cc} 0& 0\ 1 & 0 end{array}right)$$left(begin{array}{cc} 0 & 1\ 0 & 0 end{array}right)$$left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0\ 0 & 1 end{array}right)$.



$mathcal B_2$ : $left(begin{array}{cc} 0& 0\ -1 & 0 end{array}right)$$left(begin{array}{cc} -2 & 1\ 0 & 2 end{array}right)$$left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0\ 1 & 0 end{array}right)$



then the matrix of $f$ is: $left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0 & 0\ 0 & 1 &0\0&0&0end{array}right)$.



But now they ask me to find the applications $g:Srightarrow S$ with $fcirc g=f$ and express their matrix respect $mathcal B_1$(g is linear).



So here I got that those g are the ones with matrix: $left(begin{array}{cc} 1 & 0 & 0\ 0 & 1 &0\a&b&cend{array}right)$ .



With $a,b,cin mathbb R$.
But I don't know how to start with the next question.
Of all those g, find the ONLY ONE that meets $Imspace g subseteq T$.



How to start? Any hint?







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  • note that $Scap T = langleleft(begin{matrix}0 & 1 \ 1 & 0 end{matrix}right) rangle$

  • $fleft(begin{matrix}m_{11} & m_{12} \ m_{21}& m_{22} end{matrix}right)=left(begin{matrix} 0 & -m_{12} \ -m_{21}& 0 end{matrix}right)$






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  • note that $Scap T = langleleft(begin{matrix}0 & 1 \ 1 & 0 end{matrix}right) rangle$

  • $fleft(begin{matrix}m_{11} & m_{12} \ m_{21}& m_{22} end{matrix}right)=left(begin{matrix} 0 & -m_{12} \ -m_{21}& 0 end{matrix}right)$






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  • note that $Scap T = langleleft(begin{matrix}0 & 1 \ 1 & 0 end{matrix}right) rangle$

  • $fleft(begin{matrix}m_{11} & m_{12} \ m_{21}& m_{22} end{matrix}right)=left(begin{matrix} 0 & -m_{12} \ -m_{21}& 0 end{matrix}right)$






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  • $fleft(begin{matrix}m_{11} & m_{12} \ m_{21}& m_{22} end{matrix}right)=left(begin{matrix} 0 & -m_{12} \ -m_{21}& 0 end{matrix}right)$






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  • $fleft(begin{matrix}m_{11} & m_{12} \ m_{21}& m_{22} end{matrix}right)=left(begin{matrix} 0 & -m_{12} \ -m_{21}& 0 end{matrix}right)$







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