Communicating between two networks with different subnets and masks












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I struggled to find an optimal solution at work, I have this configuration:



Company B (Cisco) -->




  • Has webservice on an internal host that I don't need to know it's local IP

  • Through Site-To-Site VPN, they provided us with 172.20.1.10 as Peer ID


--> VPN --> Internet -->



Company A (SonicWall UTM)




  • Local Peer is 172.40.1.10 (on a new 'X7 interface' and a new 'Zone')

  • NAT translates this to host: 192.168.168.50 on network 192.168.168.0/24 with subnet mask 255.255.255.0, everything is great, 192.168.168.50 is able 172.20.1.10 successfully through the NAT and access rules.


The problem is Company A has another internal network 10.0.0.0/8, and I need computer 10.0.10.100 to be able to ping 172.20.1.10.



I have tried setting up a NAT rule as:




  • Source original: 10.0.10.100

  • Source translated: 172.40.1.10

  • Destination original: 172.20.1.10

  • Destination translated: original


But it won't ping. I was informed by a colleague that due to different netmasks (/8 instead of /24) and different subnets I need to use a router, I tried playing around with SonicWall Static Routes but I couldn't figure it out. Also, the networks were originally designed in mind to not be able to communicate, so I also added the necessary Any-Any allow rules temporarily for testing but to no avail.



How to solve this problem? Do I need to inform Company B and change my Local Peer network to 172.0.0.0/8? Would this even solve the problem, the subnets are now different even if the netmask is the same? Is there a better way so 10.0.10.100 can ping 172.20.1.10 ? I want to avoid adding another network card and assigning a 172.40.1.xxx to computers on the 10.0.0.0/8 network because that means additional hardware and more wires that need to be drawn out from server rooms.



Thanks for reading.
P.S. This is what happens when companies rely on software developers to figure out stuff that isn't usually their area.
Thank you for reading










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    “This is what happens when companies rely on software developers...” no offense, but if there is no one qualified to work on this problem then why isn’t the company looking for someone who is? Is it really that big of a deal to talk with a professional who can help? With that said, there are many places where the problem might be and, terminology aside, this post is confusing and the complexity requires an entire conversation to even begin troubleshooting the problem. You need someone who is qualified to look at your network and ask the right questions.

    – Appleoddity
    Feb 21 at 18:05
















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I struggled to find an optimal solution at work, I have this configuration:



Company B (Cisco) -->




  • Has webservice on an internal host that I don't need to know it's local IP

  • Through Site-To-Site VPN, they provided us with 172.20.1.10 as Peer ID


--> VPN --> Internet -->



Company A (SonicWall UTM)




  • Local Peer is 172.40.1.10 (on a new 'X7 interface' and a new 'Zone')

  • NAT translates this to host: 192.168.168.50 on network 192.168.168.0/24 with subnet mask 255.255.255.0, everything is great, 192.168.168.50 is able 172.20.1.10 successfully through the NAT and access rules.


The problem is Company A has another internal network 10.0.0.0/8, and I need computer 10.0.10.100 to be able to ping 172.20.1.10.



I have tried setting up a NAT rule as:




  • Source original: 10.0.10.100

  • Source translated: 172.40.1.10

  • Destination original: 172.20.1.10

  • Destination translated: original


But it won't ping. I was informed by a colleague that due to different netmasks (/8 instead of /24) and different subnets I need to use a router, I tried playing around with SonicWall Static Routes but I couldn't figure it out. Also, the networks were originally designed in mind to not be able to communicate, so I also added the necessary Any-Any allow rules temporarily for testing but to no avail.



How to solve this problem? Do I need to inform Company B and change my Local Peer network to 172.0.0.0/8? Would this even solve the problem, the subnets are now different even if the netmask is the same? Is there a better way so 10.0.10.100 can ping 172.20.1.10 ? I want to avoid adding another network card and assigning a 172.40.1.xxx to computers on the 10.0.0.0/8 network because that means additional hardware and more wires that need to be drawn out from server rooms.



Thanks for reading.
P.S. This is what happens when companies rely on software developers to figure out stuff that isn't usually their area.
Thank you for reading










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    “This is what happens when companies rely on software developers...” no offense, but if there is no one qualified to work on this problem then why isn’t the company looking for someone who is? Is it really that big of a deal to talk with a professional who can help? With that said, there are many places where the problem might be and, terminology aside, this post is confusing and the complexity requires an entire conversation to even begin troubleshooting the problem. You need someone who is qualified to look at your network and ask the right questions.

    – Appleoddity
    Feb 21 at 18:05














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I struggled to find an optimal solution at work, I have this configuration:



Company B (Cisco) -->




  • Has webservice on an internal host that I don't need to know it's local IP

  • Through Site-To-Site VPN, they provided us with 172.20.1.10 as Peer ID


--> VPN --> Internet -->



Company A (SonicWall UTM)




  • Local Peer is 172.40.1.10 (on a new 'X7 interface' and a new 'Zone')

  • NAT translates this to host: 192.168.168.50 on network 192.168.168.0/24 with subnet mask 255.255.255.0, everything is great, 192.168.168.50 is able 172.20.1.10 successfully through the NAT and access rules.


The problem is Company A has another internal network 10.0.0.0/8, and I need computer 10.0.10.100 to be able to ping 172.20.1.10.



I have tried setting up a NAT rule as:




  • Source original: 10.0.10.100

  • Source translated: 172.40.1.10

  • Destination original: 172.20.1.10

  • Destination translated: original


But it won't ping. I was informed by a colleague that due to different netmasks (/8 instead of /24) and different subnets I need to use a router, I tried playing around with SonicWall Static Routes but I couldn't figure it out. Also, the networks were originally designed in mind to not be able to communicate, so I also added the necessary Any-Any allow rules temporarily for testing but to no avail.



How to solve this problem? Do I need to inform Company B and change my Local Peer network to 172.0.0.0/8? Would this even solve the problem, the subnets are now different even if the netmask is the same? Is there a better way so 10.0.10.100 can ping 172.20.1.10 ? I want to avoid adding another network card and assigning a 172.40.1.xxx to computers on the 10.0.0.0/8 network because that means additional hardware and more wires that need to be drawn out from server rooms.



Thanks for reading.
P.S. This is what happens when companies rely on software developers to figure out stuff that isn't usually their area.
Thank you for reading










share|improve this question














I struggled to find an optimal solution at work, I have this configuration:



Company B (Cisco) -->




  • Has webservice on an internal host that I don't need to know it's local IP

  • Through Site-To-Site VPN, they provided us with 172.20.1.10 as Peer ID


--> VPN --> Internet -->



Company A (SonicWall UTM)




  • Local Peer is 172.40.1.10 (on a new 'X7 interface' and a new 'Zone')

  • NAT translates this to host: 192.168.168.50 on network 192.168.168.0/24 with subnet mask 255.255.255.0, everything is great, 192.168.168.50 is able 172.20.1.10 successfully through the NAT and access rules.


The problem is Company A has another internal network 10.0.0.0/8, and I need computer 10.0.10.100 to be able to ping 172.20.1.10.



I have tried setting up a NAT rule as:




  • Source original: 10.0.10.100

  • Source translated: 172.40.1.10

  • Destination original: 172.20.1.10

  • Destination translated: original


But it won't ping. I was informed by a colleague that due to different netmasks (/8 instead of /24) and different subnets I need to use a router, I tried playing around with SonicWall Static Routes but I couldn't figure it out. Also, the networks were originally designed in mind to not be able to communicate, so I also added the necessary Any-Any allow rules temporarily for testing but to no avail.



How to solve this problem? Do I need to inform Company B and change my Local Peer network to 172.0.0.0/8? Would this even solve the problem, the subnets are now different even if the netmask is the same? Is there a better way so 10.0.10.100 can ping 172.20.1.10 ? I want to avoid adding another network card and assigning a 172.40.1.xxx to computers on the 10.0.0.0/8 network because that means additional hardware and more wires that need to be drawn out from server rooms.



Thanks for reading.
P.S. This is what happens when companies rely on software developers to figure out stuff that isn't usually their area.
Thank you for reading







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  • 2





    “This is what happens when companies rely on software developers...” no offense, but if there is no one qualified to work on this problem then why isn’t the company looking for someone who is? Is it really that big of a deal to talk with a professional who can help? With that said, there are many places where the problem might be and, terminology aside, this post is confusing and the complexity requires an entire conversation to even begin troubleshooting the problem. You need someone who is qualified to look at your network and ask the right questions.

    – Appleoddity
    Feb 21 at 18:05














  • 2





    “This is what happens when companies rely on software developers...” no offense, but if there is no one qualified to work on this problem then why isn’t the company looking for someone who is? Is it really that big of a deal to talk with a professional who can help? With that said, there are many places where the problem might be and, terminology aside, this post is confusing and the complexity requires an entire conversation to even begin troubleshooting the problem. You need someone who is qualified to look at your network and ask the right questions.

    – Appleoddity
    Feb 21 at 18:05








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“This is what happens when companies rely on software developers...” no offense, but if there is no one qualified to work on this problem then why isn’t the company looking for someone who is? Is it really that big of a deal to talk with a professional who can help? With that said, there are many places where the problem might be and, terminology aside, this post is confusing and the complexity requires an entire conversation to even begin troubleshooting the problem. You need someone who is qualified to look at your network and ask the right questions.

– Appleoddity
Feb 21 at 18:05





“This is what happens when companies rely on software developers...” no offense, but if there is no one qualified to work on this problem then why isn’t the company looking for someone who is? Is it really that big of a deal to talk with a professional who can help? With that said, there are many places where the problem might be and, terminology aside, this post is confusing and the complexity requires an entire conversation to even begin troubleshooting the problem. You need someone who is qualified to look at your network and ask the right questions.

– Appleoddity
Feb 21 at 18:05










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