How are F-bialgebras defined?












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First, does such a notion exist?



If so, would it be as trivial as the triple $(S,alpha, beta)$, where $(S,alpha)$ is an F-algebra and $(S,beta)$ is an F-coalgebra?



I'm assuming there would be more that needs to occur, such as some interaction between $alpha$ and $beta$, but I haven't found much information out there that I can understand.










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    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bialgebra
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    There's a similar but different notion called a dialgebra.
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First, does such a notion exist?



If so, would it be as trivial as the triple $(S,alpha, beta)$, where $(S,alpha)$ is an F-algebra and $(S,beta)$ is an F-coalgebra?



I'm assuming there would be more that needs to occur, such as some interaction between $alpha$ and $beta$, but I haven't found much information out there that I can understand.










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  • $begingroup$
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bialgebra
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    – egreg
    Dec 31 '18 at 15:28










  • $begingroup$
    There's a similar but different notion called a dialgebra.
    $endgroup$
    – Derek Elkins
    Dec 31 '18 at 18:30














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First, does such a notion exist?



If so, would it be as trivial as the triple $(S,alpha, beta)$, where $(S,alpha)$ is an F-algebra and $(S,beta)$ is an F-coalgebra?



I'm assuming there would be more that needs to occur, such as some interaction between $alpha$ and $beta$, but I haven't found much information out there that I can understand.










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First, does such a notion exist?



If so, would it be as trivial as the triple $(S,alpha, beta)$, where $(S,alpha)$ is an F-algebra and $(S,beta)$ is an F-coalgebra?



I'm assuming there would be more that needs to occur, such as some interaction between $alpha$ and $beta$, but I haven't found much information out there that I can understand.







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  • $begingroup$
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bialgebra
    $endgroup$
    – egreg
    Dec 31 '18 at 15:28










  • $begingroup$
    There's a similar but different notion called a dialgebra.
    $endgroup$
    – Derek Elkins
    Dec 31 '18 at 18:30


















  • $begingroup$
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bialgebra
    $endgroup$
    – egreg
    Dec 31 '18 at 15:28










  • $begingroup$
    There's a similar but different notion called a dialgebra.
    $endgroup$
    – Derek Elkins
    Dec 31 '18 at 18:30
















$begingroup$
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bialgebra
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– egreg
Dec 31 '18 at 15:28




$begingroup$
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bialgebra
$endgroup$
– egreg
Dec 31 '18 at 15:28












$begingroup$
There's a similar but different notion called a dialgebra.
$endgroup$
– Derek Elkins
Dec 31 '18 at 18:30




$begingroup$
There's a similar but different notion called a dialgebra.
$endgroup$
– Derek Elkins
Dec 31 '18 at 18:30










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More generally, given two endofunctors $T$ and $F$ on a category $C$, we can define a $(T,F)$-bialgebra to be an object of $C$ equipped with the structure of a $T$-algebra and an $F$-coalgebra, i.e. just a triple $(S,alpha,beta)$, where $alphacolon TSto S$ and $betacolon Sto FS$.



But this is a very broad notion. As you expect, we usually want some relationship between the $T$-algebra structure and the $F$-coalgebra structure. The usual way of doing this is the notion of $lambda$-bialgebra, where $lambda$ is a distributive law (of $T$ over $F$): a natural transformation $lambdacolon TF to FT$.



A $lambda$-bialgebra is a $(T,F)$-bialgebra $(S,alpha,beta)$ such that $beta circ alpha = Falphacirc lambda_S circ Tbeta$ (I recommend drawing the diagram for yourself).






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More generally, given two endofunctors $T$ and $F$ on a category $C$, we can define a $(T,F)$-bialgebra to be an object of $C$ equipped with the structure of a $T$-algebra and an $F$-coalgebra, i.e. just a triple $(S,alpha,beta)$, where $alphacolon TSto S$ and $betacolon Sto FS$.



But this is a very broad notion. As you expect, we usually want some relationship between the $T$-algebra structure and the $F$-coalgebra structure. The usual way of doing this is the notion of $lambda$-bialgebra, where $lambda$ is a distributive law (of $T$ over $F$): a natural transformation $lambdacolon TF to FT$.



A $lambda$-bialgebra is a $(T,F)$-bialgebra $(S,alpha,beta)$ such that $beta circ alpha = Falphacirc lambda_S circ Tbeta$ (I recommend drawing the diagram for yourself).






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More generally, given two endofunctors $T$ and $F$ on a category $C$, we can define a $(T,F)$-bialgebra to be an object of $C$ equipped with the structure of a $T$-algebra and an $F$-coalgebra, i.e. just a triple $(S,alpha,beta)$, where $alphacolon TSto S$ and $betacolon Sto FS$.



But this is a very broad notion. As you expect, we usually want some relationship between the $T$-algebra structure and the $F$-coalgebra structure. The usual way of doing this is the notion of $lambda$-bialgebra, where $lambda$ is a distributive law (of $T$ over $F$): a natural transformation $lambdacolon TF to FT$.



A $lambda$-bialgebra is a $(T,F)$-bialgebra $(S,alpha,beta)$ such that $beta circ alpha = Falphacirc lambda_S circ Tbeta$ (I recommend drawing the diagram for yourself).






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More generally, given two endofunctors $T$ and $F$ on a category $C$, we can define a $(T,F)$-bialgebra to be an object of $C$ equipped with the structure of a $T$-algebra and an $F$-coalgebra, i.e. just a triple $(S,alpha,beta)$, where $alphacolon TSto S$ and $betacolon Sto FS$.



But this is a very broad notion. As you expect, we usually want some relationship between the $T$-algebra structure and the $F$-coalgebra structure. The usual way of doing this is the notion of $lambda$-bialgebra, where $lambda$ is a distributive law (of $T$ over $F$): a natural transformation $lambdacolon TF to FT$.



A $lambda$-bialgebra is a $(T,F)$-bialgebra $(S,alpha,beta)$ such that $beta circ alpha = Falphacirc lambda_S circ Tbeta$ (I recommend drawing the diagram for yourself).






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More generally, given two endofunctors $T$ and $F$ on a category $C$, we can define a $(T,F)$-bialgebra to be an object of $C$ equipped with the structure of a $T$-algebra and an $F$-coalgebra, i.e. just a triple $(S,alpha,beta)$, where $alphacolon TSto S$ and $betacolon Sto FS$.



But this is a very broad notion. As you expect, we usually want some relationship between the $T$-algebra structure and the $F$-coalgebra structure. The usual way of doing this is the notion of $lambda$-bialgebra, where $lambda$ is a distributive law (of $T$ over $F$): a natural transformation $lambdacolon TF to FT$.



A $lambda$-bialgebra is a $(T,F)$-bialgebra $(S,alpha,beta)$ such that $beta circ alpha = Falphacirc lambda_S circ Tbeta$ (I recommend drawing the diagram for yourself).







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