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I am trying to derive Truncation Error $=frac{(b-a)h^2}{12} max{|f''(z)|}$ for Trapezoidal rule of integration by using Taylor's Remainder term



My Approach:

In trapezoidal rule of integration, we divide the interval of integration $[a,b]$ into $n$ equal length sub-intervals and then approximate the function as first degree polynomial to connect the intermediate points.

Let $f(x)$ be the given function, then the Taylor series of $f(x)$ is given by:$$f(x)=f(alpha)+ (x-alpha)f'(alpha) + frac{(x-alpha)^2}{2!}f''(alpha) + frac{(x-alpha)^3}{3!}f''(alpha) + dots$$
We know:$$text{Taylor's Remainder Term}: R_{n+1}(x;c)=frac{(x-c)^{n+1}}{(n+1)!}f^{n+1}(z)$$
where $z$ is a point between $c$ and $x$

So, here
$(n+1)=2$ , $x in [a,b]$, $c=(x-h)$and $zin(x-h,x)$ ,where $h= frac{b-a}{n}$
$$implies R_2(x,x-h)=frac{(x-(x-h))^{2}}{(2)!}f''(z)$$
$$=frac{(h)^{2}}{2}f''(z) dots (i)$$
so, the largest possible error $=max|R_2(x,x-h)|$
$$=frac{(h)^{2}}{2} max|f''(z)| dots(ii)$$
But Truncation Error $=frac{(b-a)h^2}{12} max{|f''(z)|}$,

so did i missed anything?? please help anyone...










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    Where is your $int$? You are estimating the truncation error of an integral yet no integral appears here.
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    Using the Taylor's approximation is messy. An easier way is to apply integration by parts to estimate the local error $E_n = frac{h}{2}[f(x_n) + f(x_{n+1})] - int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f(x) , dx$
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I am trying to derive Truncation Error $=frac{(b-a)h^2}{12} max{|f''(z)|}$ for Trapezoidal rule of integration by using Taylor's Remainder term



My Approach:

In trapezoidal rule of integration, we divide the interval of integration $[a,b]$ into $n$ equal length sub-intervals and then approximate the function as first degree polynomial to connect the intermediate points.

Let $f(x)$ be the given function, then the Taylor series of $f(x)$ is given by:$$f(x)=f(alpha)+ (x-alpha)f'(alpha) + frac{(x-alpha)^2}{2!}f''(alpha) + frac{(x-alpha)^3}{3!}f''(alpha) + dots$$
We know:$$text{Taylor's Remainder Term}: R_{n+1}(x;c)=frac{(x-c)^{n+1}}{(n+1)!}f^{n+1}(z)$$
where $z$ is a point between $c$ and $x$

So, here
$(n+1)=2$ , $x in [a,b]$, $c=(x-h)$and $zin(x-h,x)$ ,where $h= frac{b-a}{n}$
$$implies R_2(x,x-h)=frac{(x-(x-h))^{2}}{(2)!}f''(z)$$
$$=frac{(h)^{2}}{2}f''(z) dots (i)$$
so, the largest possible error $=max|R_2(x,x-h)|$
$$=frac{(h)^{2}}{2} max|f''(z)| dots(ii)$$
But Truncation Error $=frac{(b-a)h^2}{12} max{|f''(z)|}$,

so did i missed anything?? please help anyone...










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    Where is your $int$? You are estimating the truncation error of an integral yet no integral appears here.
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    – xbh
    Dec 15 '18 at 5:32










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    Using the Taylor's approximation is messy. An easier way is to apply integration by parts to estimate the local error $E_n = frac{h}{2}[f(x_n) + f(x_{n+1})] - int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f(x) , dx$
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I am trying to derive Truncation Error $=frac{(b-a)h^2}{12} max{|f''(z)|}$ for Trapezoidal rule of integration by using Taylor's Remainder term



My Approach:

In trapezoidal rule of integration, we divide the interval of integration $[a,b]$ into $n$ equal length sub-intervals and then approximate the function as first degree polynomial to connect the intermediate points.

Let $f(x)$ be the given function, then the Taylor series of $f(x)$ is given by:$$f(x)=f(alpha)+ (x-alpha)f'(alpha) + frac{(x-alpha)^2}{2!}f''(alpha) + frac{(x-alpha)^3}{3!}f''(alpha) + dots$$
We know:$$text{Taylor's Remainder Term}: R_{n+1}(x;c)=frac{(x-c)^{n+1}}{(n+1)!}f^{n+1}(z)$$
where $z$ is a point between $c$ and $x$

So, here
$(n+1)=2$ , $x in [a,b]$, $c=(x-h)$and $zin(x-h,x)$ ,where $h= frac{b-a}{n}$
$$implies R_2(x,x-h)=frac{(x-(x-h))^{2}}{(2)!}f''(z)$$
$$=frac{(h)^{2}}{2}f''(z) dots (i)$$
so, the largest possible error $=max|R_2(x,x-h)|$
$$=frac{(h)^{2}}{2} max|f''(z)| dots(ii)$$
But Truncation Error $=frac{(b-a)h^2}{12} max{|f''(z)|}$,

so did i missed anything?? please help anyone...










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I am trying to derive Truncation Error $=frac{(b-a)h^2}{12} max{|f''(z)|}$ for Trapezoidal rule of integration by using Taylor's Remainder term



My Approach:

In trapezoidal rule of integration, we divide the interval of integration $[a,b]$ into $n$ equal length sub-intervals and then approximate the function as first degree polynomial to connect the intermediate points.

Let $f(x)$ be the given function, then the Taylor series of $f(x)$ is given by:$$f(x)=f(alpha)+ (x-alpha)f'(alpha) + frac{(x-alpha)^2}{2!}f''(alpha) + frac{(x-alpha)^3}{3!}f''(alpha) + dots$$
We know:$$text{Taylor's Remainder Term}: R_{n+1}(x;c)=frac{(x-c)^{n+1}}{(n+1)!}f^{n+1}(z)$$
where $z$ is a point between $c$ and $x$

So, here
$(n+1)=2$ , $x in [a,b]$, $c=(x-h)$and $zin(x-h,x)$ ,where $h= frac{b-a}{n}$
$$implies R_2(x,x-h)=frac{(x-(x-h))^{2}}{(2)!}f''(z)$$
$$=frac{(h)^{2}}{2}f''(z) dots (i)$$
so, the largest possible error $=max|R_2(x,x-h)|$
$$=frac{(h)^{2}}{2} max|f''(z)| dots(ii)$$
But Truncation Error $=frac{(b-a)h^2}{12} max{|f''(z)|}$,

so did i missed anything?? please help anyone...







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    Where is your $int$? You are estimating the truncation error of an integral yet no integral appears here.
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    – xbh
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    Using the Taylor's approximation is messy. An easier way is to apply integration by parts to estimate the local error $E_n = frac{h}{2}[f(x_n) + f(x_{n+1})] - int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f(x) , dx$
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    – RRL
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    $begingroup$
    Where is your $int$? You are estimating the truncation error of an integral yet no integral appears here.
    $endgroup$
    – xbh
    Dec 15 '18 at 5:32










  • $begingroup$
    Using the Taylor's approximation is messy. An easier way is to apply integration by parts to estimate the local error $E_n = frac{h}{2}[f(x_n) + f(x_{n+1})] - int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f(x) , dx$
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    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 5:38








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Where is your $int$? You are estimating the truncation error of an integral yet no integral appears here.
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– xbh
Dec 15 '18 at 5:32




$begingroup$
Where is your $int$? You are estimating the truncation error of an integral yet no integral appears here.
$endgroup$
– xbh
Dec 15 '18 at 5:32












$begingroup$
Using the Taylor's approximation is messy. An easier way is to apply integration by parts to estimate the local error $E_n = frac{h}{2}[f(x_n) + f(x_{n+1})] - int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f(x) , dx$
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– RRL
Dec 15 '18 at 5:38




$begingroup$
Using the Taylor's approximation is messy. An easier way is to apply integration by parts to estimate the local error $E_n = frac{h}{2}[f(x_n) + f(x_{n+1})] - int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f(x) , dx$
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You need to first obtain a local approximation over a subinterval.



The error in approximating the integral on a subinterval $[x_n, x_{n+1}]$ with $h = x_{n+1} - x_n$ using the trapezoidal formula is



$$E_n = frac{h}{2}[f(x_n) + f(x_{n+1})] - int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f(x) , dx.$$



Integration by parts shows this to be



$$E_n = int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}}(x-c)f'(x) , dx,$$



where $c = (x_{n+1}+x_n)/2$ is the midpoint.



To see this, note that



$$x_{n+1} - c = c - x_n = frac{x_{n+1} - x_n}{2} = frac{h}{2},$$



and with $u = (x-c)$ and $dv = f'(x)dx$, integration by parts yields



$$int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}}(x-c)f'(x) , dx = (x-c)f(x)|_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} - int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f(x) , dx = E_n.$$



If the second derivative is bounded with $max |f''(x)| = M$, then we can demonstrate $O(h^3)$ local accuracy. Another integration by parts yields



$$E_n = frac1{2} int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} [(h/2)^2 - (x-c)^2]f''(x) , dx.$$



Using the bound for $f''$ and integrating we obtain the local error bound



$$|E_n| leqslant frac{M}{12}h^3$$



Summing over $m$ subintervals where $mh = b-a$ we get the global error bound



$$ |GE| leqslant frac{Mmh^3}{12}= frac{(b-a)h^2}{12}M$$






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    I do however think this is the "best" approach and is worth learning.
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    That is correct. Now you can write the first term as $-cf(x)|_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} = -cint_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f'(x) , dx$ and you will get $E_n=int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} (x-c)f'(x) , dx$.
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    +1: Not a criticism of the above, but I would like to see an error analysis that makes the error 'obvious'. The integration by parts twice certainly yields the desired result, but personally I find the (textbook) derivation a bit opaque in terms of intuition.
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    @copper.hat: Thank you. I agree. I had a more transparent way in mind showing $mathcal{O}(h^3)$ local error but could get the coefficient $1/12$. Not sure if that is important to OP.
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You need to first obtain a local approximation over a subinterval.



The error in approximating the integral on a subinterval $[x_n, x_{n+1}]$ with $h = x_{n+1} - x_n$ using the trapezoidal formula is



$$E_n = frac{h}{2}[f(x_n) + f(x_{n+1})] - int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f(x) , dx.$$



Integration by parts shows this to be



$$E_n = int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}}(x-c)f'(x) , dx,$$



where $c = (x_{n+1}+x_n)/2$ is the midpoint.



To see this, note that



$$x_{n+1} - c = c - x_n = frac{x_{n+1} - x_n}{2} = frac{h}{2},$$



and with $u = (x-c)$ and $dv = f'(x)dx$, integration by parts yields



$$int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}}(x-c)f'(x) , dx = (x-c)f(x)|_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} - int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f(x) , dx = E_n.$$



If the second derivative is bounded with $max |f''(x)| = M$, then we can demonstrate $O(h^3)$ local accuracy. Another integration by parts yields



$$E_n = frac1{2} int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} [(h/2)^2 - (x-c)^2]f''(x) , dx.$$



Using the bound for $f''$ and integrating we obtain the local error bound



$$|E_n| leqslant frac{M}{12}h^3$$



Summing over $m$ subintervals where $mh = b-a$ we get the global error bound



$$ |GE| leqslant frac{Mmh^3}{12}= frac{(b-a)h^2}{12}M$$






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    @Suresh: You're welcome. You can start by looking at this and I'll see if I can find a better reference or derive it for you.
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    I do however think this is the "best" approach and is worth learning.
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    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 6:33






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    That is correct. Now you can write the first term as $-cf(x)|_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} = -cint_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f'(x) , dx$ and you will get $E_n=int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} (x-c)f'(x) , dx$.
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    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 13:14








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    +1: Not a criticism of the above, but I would like to see an error analysis that makes the error 'obvious'. The integration by parts twice certainly yields the desired result, but personally I find the (textbook) derivation a bit opaque in terms of intuition.
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    – copper.hat
    Dec 15 '18 at 20:23








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    $begingroup$
    @copper.hat: Thank you. I agree. I had a more transparent way in mind showing $mathcal{O}(h^3)$ local error but could get the coefficient $1/12$. Not sure if that is important to OP.
    $endgroup$
    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 23:31
















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You need to first obtain a local approximation over a subinterval.



The error in approximating the integral on a subinterval $[x_n, x_{n+1}]$ with $h = x_{n+1} - x_n$ using the trapezoidal formula is



$$E_n = frac{h}{2}[f(x_n) + f(x_{n+1})] - int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f(x) , dx.$$



Integration by parts shows this to be



$$E_n = int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}}(x-c)f'(x) , dx,$$



where $c = (x_{n+1}+x_n)/2$ is the midpoint.



To see this, note that



$$x_{n+1} - c = c - x_n = frac{x_{n+1} - x_n}{2} = frac{h}{2},$$



and with $u = (x-c)$ and $dv = f'(x)dx$, integration by parts yields



$$int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}}(x-c)f'(x) , dx = (x-c)f(x)|_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} - int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f(x) , dx = E_n.$$



If the second derivative is bounded with $max |f''(x)| = M$, then we can demonstrate $O(h^3)$ local accuracy. Another integration by parts yields



$$E_n = frac1{2} int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} [(h/2)^2 - (x-c)^2]f''(x) , dx.$$



Using the bound for $f''$ and integrating we obtain the local error bound



$$|E_n| leqslant frac{M}{12}h^3$$



Summing over $m$ subintervals where $mh = b-a$ we get the global error bound



$$ |GE| leqslant frac{Mmh^3}{12}= frac{(b-a)h^2}{12}M$$






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    @Suresh: You're welcome. You can start by looking at this and I'll see if I can find a better reference or derive it for you.
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    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 6:32








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    $begingroup$
    I do however think this is the "best" approach and is worth learning.
    $endgroup$
    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 6:33






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    That is correct. Now you can write the first term as $-cf(x)|_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} = -cint_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f'(x) , dx$ and you will get $E_n=int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} (x-c)f'(x) , dx$.
    $endgroup$
    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 13:14








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    +1: Not a criticism of the above, but I would like to see an error analysis that makes the error 'obvious'. The integration by parts twice certainly yields the desired result, but personally I find the (textbook) derivation a bit opaque in terms of intuition.
    $endgroup$
    – copper.hat
    Dec 15 '18 at 20:23








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @copper.hat: Thank you. I agree. I had a more transparent way in mind showing $mathcal{O}(h^3)$ local error but could get the coefficient $1/12$. Not sure if that is important to OP.
    $endgroup$
    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 23:31














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$begingroup$

You need to first obtain a local approximation over a subinterval.



The error in approximating the integral on a subinterval $[x_n, x_{n+1}]$ with $h = x_{n+1} - x_n$ using the trapezoidal formula is



$$E_n = frac{h}{2}[f(x_n) + f(x_{n+1})] - int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f(x) , dx.$$



Integration by parts shows this to be



$$E_n = int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}}(x-c)f'(x) , dx,$$



where $c = (x_{n+1}+x_n)/2$ is the midpoint.



To see this, note that



$$x_{n+1} - c = c - x_n = frac{x_{n+1} - x_n}{2} = frac{h}{2},$$



and with $u = (x-c)$ and $dv = f'(x)dx$, integration by parts yields



$$int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}}(x-c)f'(x) , dx = (x-c)f(x)|_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} - int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f(x) , dx = E_n.$$



If the second derivative is bounded with $max |f''(x)| = M$, then we can demonstrate $O(h^3)$ local accuracy. Another integration by parts yields



$$E_n = frac1{2} int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} [(h/2)^2 - (x-c)^2]f''(x) , dx.$$



Using the bound for $f''$ and integrating we obtain the local error bound



$$|E_n| leqslant frac{M}{12}h^3$$



Summing over $m$ subintervals where $mh = b-a$ we get the global error bound



$$ |GE| leqslant frac{Mmh^3}{12}= frac{(b-a)h^2}{12}M$$






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You need to first obtain a local approximation over a subinterval.



The error in approximating the integral on a subinterval $[x_n, x_{n+1}]$ with $h = x_{n+1} - x_n$ using the trapezoidal formula is



$$E_n = frac{h}{2}[f(x_n) + f(x_{n+1})] - int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f(x) , dx.$$



Integration by parts shows this to be



$$E_n = int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}}(x-c)f'(x) , dx,$$



where $c = (x_{n+1}+x_n)/2$ is the midpoint.



To see this, note that



$$x_{n+1} - c = c - x_n = frac{x_{n+1} - x_n}{2} = frac{h}{2},$$



and with $u = (x-c)$ and $dv = f'(x)dx$, integration by parts yields



$$int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}}(x-c)f'(x) , dx = (x-c)f(x)|_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} - int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f(x) , dx = E_n.$$



If the second derivative is bounded with $max |f''(x)| = M$, then we can demonstrate $O(h^3)$ local accuracy. Another integration by parts yields



$$E_n = frac1{2} int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} [(h/2)^2 - (x-c)^2]f''(x) , dx.$$



Using the bound for $f''$ and integrating we obtain the local error bound



$$|E_n| leqslant frac{M}{12}h^3$$



Summing over $m$ subintervals where $mh = b-a$ we get the global error bound



$$ |GE| leqslant frac{Mmh^3}{12}= frac{(b-a)h^2}{12}M$$







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    @Suresh: You're welcome. You can start by looking at this and I'll see if I can find a better reference or derive it for you.
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    – RRL
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    $begingroup$
    I do however think this is the "best" approach and is worth learning.
    $endgroup$
    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 6:33






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    That is correct. Now you can write the first term as $-cf(x)|_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} = -cint_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f'(x) , dx$ and you will get $E_n=int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} (x-c)f'(x) , dx$.
    $endgroup$
    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 13:14








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    +1: Not a criticism of the above, but I would like to see an error analysis that makes the error 'obvious'. The integration by parts twice certainly yields the desired result, but personally I find the (textbook) derivation a bit opaque in terms of intuition.
    $endgroup$
    – copper.hat
    Dec 15 '18 at 20:23








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    @copper.hat: Thank you. I agree. I had a more transparent way in mind showing $mathcal{O}(h^3)$ local error but could get the coefficient $1/12$. Not sure if that is important to OP.
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    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 23:31














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    @Suresh: You're welcome. You can start by looking at this and I'll see if I can find a better reference or derive it for you.
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    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 6:32








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    I do however think this is the "best" approach and is worth learning.
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    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 6:33






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    That is correct. Now you can write the first term as $-cf(x)|_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} = -cint_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f'(x) , dx$ and you will get $E_n=int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} (x-c)f'(x) , dx$.
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    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 13:14








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    +1: Not a criticism of the above, but I would like to see an error analysis that makes the error 'obvious'. The integration by parts twice certainly yields the desired result, but personally I find the (textbook) derivation a bit opaque in terms of intuition.
    $endgroup$
    – copper.hat
    Dec 15 '18 at 20:23








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @copper.hat: Thank you. I agree. I had a more transparent way in mind showing $mathcal{O}(h^3)$ local error but could get the coefficient $1/12$. Not sure if that is important to OP.
    $endgroup$
    – RRL
    Dec 15 '18 at 23:31








1




1




$begingroup$
@Suresh: You're welcome. You can start by looking at this and I'll see if I can find a better reference or derive it for you.
$endgroup$
– RRL
Dec 15 '18 at 6:32






$begingroup$
@Suresh: You're welcome. You can start by looking at this and I'll see if I can find a better reference or derive it for you.
$endgroup$
– RRL
Dec 15 '18 at 6:32






1




1




$begingroup$
I do however think this is the "best" approach and is worth learning.
$endgroup$
– RRL
Dec 15 '18 at 6:33




$begingroup$
I do however think this is the "best" approach and is worth learning.
$endgroup$
– RRL
Dec 15 '18 at 6:33




1




1




$begingroup$
That is correct. Now you can write the first term as $-cf(x)|_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} = -cint_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f'(x) , dx$ and you will get $E_n=int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} (x-c)f'(x) , dx$.
$endgroup$
– RRL
Dec 15 '18 at 13:14






$begingroup$
That is correct. Now you can write the first term as $-cf(x)|_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} = -cint_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} f'(x) , dx$ and you will get $E_n=int_{x_n}^{x_{n+1}} (x-c)f'(x) , dx$.
$endgroup$
– RRL
Dec 15 '18 at 13:14






1




1




$begingroup$
+1: Not a criticism of the above, but I would like to see an error analysis that makes the error 'obvious'. The integration by parts twice certainly yields the desired result, but personally I find the (textbook) derivation a bit opaque in terms of intuition.
$endgroup$
– copper.hat
Dec 15 '18 at 20:23






$begingroup$
+1: Not a criticism of the above, but I would like to see an error analysis that makes the error 'obvious'. The integration by parts twice certainly yields the desired result, but personally I find the (textbook) derivation a bit opaque in terms of intuition.
$endgroup$
– copper.hat
Dec 15 '18 at 20:23






1




1




$begingroup$
@copper.hat: Thank you. I agree. I had a more transparent way in mind showing $mathcal{O}(h^3)$ local error but could get the coefficient $1/12$. Not sure if that is important to OP.
$endgroup$
– RRL
Dec 15 '18 at 23:31




$begingroup$
@copper.hat: Thank you. I agree. I had a more transparent way in mind showing $mathcal{O}(h^3)$ local error but could get the coefficient $1/12$. Not sure if that is important to OP.
$endgroup$
– RRL
Dec 15 '18 at 23:31


















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