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Let $f:[a,b]rightarrowBbb{R}$ be such that $f(x)=0$ except at finitely many points. Show that $int_a^b{f(x)}dx=0$.



Am I pointed in the wrong direction for wanting to use contradiction? If I assume $$int_a^b{f(x)}dxneq0$$ then can I assume $f$ must contain a variable x such that $f$ is not a constant? Is it that simple? I'm missing a lot of connections.










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Let $f:[a,b]rightarrowBbb{R}$ be such that $f(x)=0$ except at finitely many points. Show that $int_a^b{f(x)}dx=0$.



Am I pointed in the wrong direction for wanting to use contradiction? If I assume $$int_a^b{f(x)}dxneq0$$ then can I assume $f$ must contain a variable x such that $f$ is not a constant? Is it that simple? I'm missing a lot of connections.










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Am I pointed in the wrong direction for wanting to use contradiction? If I assume $$int_a^b{f(x)}dxneq0$$ then can I assume $f$ must contain a variable x such that $f$ is not a constant? Is it that simple? I'm missing a lot of connections.










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Let $f:[a,b]rightarrowBbb{R}$ be such that $f(x)=0$ except at finitely many points. Show that $int_a^b{f(x)}dx=0$.



Am I pointed in the wrong direction for wanting to use contradiction? If I assume $$int_a^b{f(x)}dxneq0$$ then can I assume $f$ must contain a variable x such that $f$ is not a constant? Is it that simple? I'm missing a lot of connections.





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    Are you studying Riemann integration or Lebesgue integration ? If it is Lebesgue you have the "almost everywhere" (a.e.) that allows you to modify a function on a set of measure 0, in particular a finite set without modifying the integral.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Dec 15 '18 at 4:07








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    $begingroup$
    Using the riemann sum definition, partition the interval and shrink the partitions around the finitely many points containing $0$. Then, as you take the limit, the contribution of these points will go to 0.
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    – rubikscube09
    Dec 15 '18 at 4:13














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    What does "$f$ must contain a variable $x$ such that $f$ is not a constant" mean?
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    – anomaly
    Dec 15 '18 at 4:02










  • $begingroup$
    Are you studying Riemann integration or Lebesgue integration ? If it is Lebesgue you have the "almost everywhere" (a.e.) that allows you to modify a function on a set of measure 0, in particular a finite set without modifying the integral.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Dec 15 '18 at 4:07








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    $begingroup$
    Using the riemann sum definition, partition the interval and shrink the partitions around the finitely many points containing $0$. Then, as you take the limit, the contribution of these points will go to 0.
    $endgroup$
    – rubikscube09
    Dec 15 '18 at 4:13








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Are you studying Riemann integration or Lebesgue integration ? If it is Lebesgue you have the "almost everywhere" (a.e.) that allows you to modify a function on a set of measure 0, in particular a finite set without modifying the integral.
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– Jean Marie
Dec 15 '18 at 4:07






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Using the riemann sum definition, partition the interval and shrink the partitions around the finitely many points containing $0$. Then, as you take the limit, the contribution of these points will go to 0.
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Take a partition $P$ of $[a,b]$ and calculate the upper and lower Riemann sum with respect to this partition:



$$
begin{align*}
L_P(f)=&sum_{I in P} inf_I(f) |I|\
U_P(f)=&sum_{I in P} sup_I(f) |I|
end{align*}
$$



Then $f$ is Riemann integrable if $forall epsilon>0$ $;exists P_0$ such that $|U_P(f)-L_P(f)|<epsilon$ for all refinements $P$ of $P_0$.



Now let $M = 2max{|f(x)|}$. Then $U_P(f)-L_P(f) leq M left|bigcup_{{I|sup_I(|f|)>0}} right|rightarrow 0$ as the total length of any finite number of intervals in $P$ goes to 0 as you keep refining the partition of $[a,b]$.






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    Take a partition $P$ of $[a,b]$ and calculate the upper and lower Riemann sum with respect to this partition:



    $$
    begin{align*}
    L_P(f)=&sum_{I in P} inf_I(f) |I|\
    U_P(f)=&sum_{I in P} sup_I(f) |I|
    end{align*}
    $$



    Then $f$ is Riemann integrable if $forall epsilon>0$ $;exists P_0$ such that $|U_P(f)-L_P(f)|<epsilon$ for all refinements $P$ of $P_0$.



    Now let $M = 2max{|f(x)|}$. Then $U_P(f)-L_P(f) leq M left|bigcup_{{I|sup_I(|f|)>0}} right|rightarrow 0$ as the total length of any finite number of intervals in $P$ goes to 0 as you keep refining the partition of $[a,b]$.






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      Take a partition $P$ of $[a,b]$ and calculate the upper and lower Riemann sum with respect to this partition:



      $$
      begin{align*}
      L_P(f)=&sum_{I in P} inf_I(f) |I|\
      U_P(f)=&sum_{I in P} sup_I(f) |I|
      end{align*}
      $$



      Then $f$ is Riemann integrable if $forall epsilon>0$ $;exists P_0$ such that $|U_P(f)-L_P(f)|<epsilon$ for all refinements $P$ of $P_0$.



      Now let $M = 2max{|f(x)|}$. Then $U_P(f)-L_P(f) leq M left|bigcup_{{I|sup_I(|f|)>0}} right|rightarrow 0$ as the total length of any finite number of intervals in $P$ goes to 0 as you keep refining the partition of $[a,b]$.






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        Take a partition $P$ of $[a,b]$ and calculate the upper and lower Riemann sum with respect to this partition:



        $$
        begin{align*}
        L_P(f)=&sum_{I in P} inf_I(f) |I|\
        U_P(f)=&sum_{I in P} sup_I(f) |I|
        end{align*}
        $$



        Then $f$ is Riemann integrable if $forall epsilon>0$ $;exists P_0$ such that $|U_P(f)-L_P(f)|<epsilon$ for all refinements $P$ of $P_0$.



        Now let $M = 2max{|f(x)|}$. Then $U_P(f)-L_P(f) leq M left|bigcup_{{I|sup_I(|f|)>0}} right|rightarrow 0$ as the total length of any finite number of intervals in $P$ goes to 0 as you keep refining the partition of $[a,b]$.






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        Take a partition $P$ of $[a,b]$ and calculate the upper and lower Riemann sum with respect to this partition:



        $$
        begin{align*}
        L_P(f)=&sum_{I in P} inf_I(f) |I|\
        U_P(f)=&sum_{I in P} sup_I(f) |I|
        end{align*}
        $$



        Then $f$ is Riemann integrable if $forall epsilon>0$ $;exists P_0$ such that $|U_P(f)-L_P(f)|<epsilon$ for all refinements $P$ of $P_0$.



        Now let $M = 2max{|f(x)|}$. Then $U_P(f)-L_P(f) leq M left|bigcup_{{I|sup_I(|f|)>0}} right|rightarrow 0$ as the total length of any finite number of intervals in $P$ goes to 0 as you keep refining the partition of $[a,b]$.







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