Historically, did “Oh my Gosh” originate as an anti-God expression? [closed]
There is a tendency in traditionally Christian societies (grossly speaking, the West) to leave behind words or expression which allude to such heritage or faith. A familiar example is CE and BCE instead of AD and BC. I'm interested here with the case of "Oh my Gosh", which is used instead of "Oh my God".
Now, according to this answer, the first time this word was used as replacement for God was in the 16th century by Nicholas Udall, who was himself a religious person (at one point he became a vicar, actually). So, although not in its origin, has the use of such word become as an expression of anti-theism? By anti-theism I mean the rejection of theism, not confined to but exemplified by atheism.
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There is a tendency in traditionally Christian societies (grossly speaking, the West) to leave behind words or expression which allude to such heritage or faith. A familiar example is CE and BCE instead of AD and BC. I'm interested here with the case of "Oh my Gosh", which is used instead of "Oh my God".
Now, according to this answer, the first time this word was used as replacement for God was in the 16th century by Nicholas Udall, who was himself a religious person (at one point he became a vicar, actually). So, although not in its origin, has the use of such word become as an expression of anti-theism? By anti-theism I mean the rejection of theism, not confined to but exemplified by atheism.
expressions contemporary-english
edited Dec 16 '18 at 2:24
Jesse Steele
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asked Dec 13 '18 at 9:16
luchonacholuchonacho
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closed as primarily opinion-based by user240918, J. Taylor, Skooba, choster, jimm101 Dec 14 '18 at 1:55
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– user240918
Dec 13 '18 at 9:29
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Some Christians I've known consider "oh my god" to be "taking the Lord's name in vain", which the bible prohibits. So you may find religious people using it for this reason. Also, as you point out, there are people who want to avoid referencing god at all, as a rejection of religion. I have no idea which are more common.
– AndyT
Dec 13 '18 at 9:50
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@AndyT I suspect there are more Christian English speakers than English speakers who choose to reject religion to the point of never saying /gad/. (lazy IPA)
– Azor Ahai
Dec 13 '18 at 17:56
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Is there any evidence of anyone who does this out of an anti-theistic persuasion? I've never met an atheist who avoids the G word on principle and I'd think this would be a very, very unusual view to take.
– tmgr
Dec 13 '18 at 18:14
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Here and for the last 50 years at least, I would say that little kids say that phrase routinely years before they even realize that gosh isn't a synonym of goodness or something like that. That phrase is just too common here; you could say oh, my word, and no one would think of a word, not any word. They're mostly just sayings here now (US, SE Region).
– KannE
Dec 13 '18 at 19:24
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There is a tendency in traditionally Christian societies (grossly speaking, the West) to leave behind words or expression which allude to such heritage or faith. A familiar example is CE and BCE instead of AD and BC. I'm interested here with the case of "Oh my Gosh", which is used instead of "Oh my God".
Now, according to this answer, the first time this word was used as replacement for God was in the 16th century by Nicholas Udall, who was himself a religious person (at one point he became a vicar, actually). So, although not in its origin, has the use of such word become as an expression of anti-theism? By anti-theism I mean the rejection of theism, not confined to but exemplified by atheism.
expressions contemporary-english
edited Dec 16 '18 at 2:24
Jesse Steele
583214
asked Dec 13 '18 at 9:16
luchonacholuchonacho
1,13321026
There is a tendency in traditionally Christian societies (grossly speaking, the West) to leave behind words or expression which allude to such heritage or faith. A familiar example is CE and BCE instead of AD and BC. I'm interested here with the case of "Oh my Gosh", which is used instead of "Oh my God".
Now, according to this answer, the first time this word was used as replacement for God was in the 16th century by Nicholas Udall, who was himself a religious person (at one point he became a vicar, actually). So, although not in its origin, has the use of such word become as an expression of anti-theism? By anti-theism I mean the rejection of theism, not confined to but exemplified by atheism.
expressions contemporary-english
expressions contemporary-english
edited Dec 16 '18 at 2:24
Jesse Steele
583214
asked Dec 13 '18 at 9:16
luchonacholuchonacho
1,13321026
edited Dec 16 '18 at 2:24
Jesse Steele
583214
asked Dec 13 '18 at 9:16
luchonacholuchonacho
1,13321026
edited Dec 16 '18 at 2:24
Jesse Steele
583214
edited Dec 16 '18 at 2:24
Jesse Steele
583214
edited Dec 16 '18 at 2:24
Jesse Steele
583214
583214
asked Dec 13 '18 at 9:16
luchonacholuchonacho
1,13321026
asked Dec 13 '18 at 9:16
luchonacholuchonacho
1,13321026
asked Dec 13 '18 at 9:16
luchonacholuchonacho
1,13321026
1,13321026
closed as primarily opinion-based by user240918, J. Taylor, Skooba, choster, jimm101 Dec 14 '18 at 1:55
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– user240918
Dec 13 '18 at 9:29
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Some Christians I've known consider "oh my god" to be "taking the Lord's name in vain", which the bible prohibits. So you may find religious people using it for this reason. Also, as you point out, there are people who want to avoid referencing god at all, as a rejection of religion. I have no idea which are more common.
– AndyT
Dec 13 '18 at 9:50
3
@AndyT I suspect there are more Christian English speakers than English speakers who choose to reject religion to the point of never saying /gad/. (lazy IPA)
– Azor Ahai
Dec 13 '18 at 17:56
7
Is there any evidence of anyone who does this out of an anti-theistic persuasion? I've never met an atheist who avoids the G word on principle and I'd think this would be a very, very unusual view to take.
– tmgr
Dec 13 '18 at 18:14
6
Here and for the last 50 years at least, I would say that little kids say that phrase routinely years before they even realize that gosh isn't a synonym of goodness or something like that. That phrase is just too common here; you could say oh, my word, and no one would think of a word, not any word. They're mostly just sayings here now (US, SE Region).
– KannE
Dec 13 '18 at 19:24
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– user240918
Dec 13 '18 at 9:29
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Some Christians I've known consider "oh my god" to be "taking the Lord's name in vain", which the bible prohibits. So you may find religious people using it for this reason. Also, as you point out, there are people who want to avoid referencing god at all, as a rejection of religion. I have no idea which are more common.
– AndyT
Dec 13 '18 at 9:50
3
@AndyT I suspect there are more Christian English speakers than English speakers who choose to reject religion to the point of never saying /gad/. (lazy IPA)
– Azor Ahai
Dec 13 '18 at 17:56
7
Is there any evidence of anyone who does this out of an anti-theistic persuasion? I've never met an atheist who avoids the G word on principle and I'd think this would be a very, very unusual view to take.
– tmgr
Dec 13 '18 at 18:14
6
Here and for the last 50 years at least, I would say that little kids say that phrase routinely years before they even realize that gosh isn't a synonym of goodness or something like that. That phrase is just too common here; you could say oh, my word, and no one would think of a word, not any word. They're mostly just sayings here now (US, SE Region).
– KannE
Dec 13 '18 at 19:24
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– user240918
Dec 13 '18 at 9:29
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– user240918
Dec 13 '18 at 9:29
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Some Christians I've known consider "oh my god" to be "taking the Lord's name in vain", which the bible prohibits. So you may find religious people using it for this reason. Also, as you point out, there are people who want to avoid referencing god at all, as a rejection of religion. I have no idea which are more common.
– AndyT
Dec 13 '18 at 9:50
Some Christians I've known consider "oh my god" to be "taking the Lord's name in vain", which the bible prohibits. So you may find religious people using it for this reason. Also, as you point out, there are people who want to avoid referencing god at all, as a rejection of religion. I have no idea which are more common.
– AndyT
Dec 13 '18 at 9:50
3
3
@AndyT I suspect there are more Christian English speakers than English speakers who choose to reject religion to the point of never saying /gad/. (lazy IPA)
– Azor Ahai
Dec 13 '18 at 17:56
@AndyT I suspect there are more Christian English speakers than English speakers who choose to reject religion to the point of never saying /gad/. (lazy IPA)
– Azor Ahai
Dec 13 '18 at 17:56
7
7
Is there any evidence of anyone who does this out of an anti-theistic persuasion? I've never met an atheist who avoids the G word on principle and I'd think this would be a very, very unusual view to take.
– tmgr
Dec 13 '18 at 18:14
Is there any evidence of anyone who does this out of an anti-theistic persuasion? I've never met an atheist who avoids the G word on principle and I'd think this would be a very, very unusual view to take.
– tmgr
Dec 13 '18 at 18:14
6
6
Here and for the last 50 years at least, I would say that little kids say that phrase routinely years before they even realize that gosh isn't a synonym of goodness or something like that. That phrase is just too common here; you could say oh, my word, and no one would think of a word, not any word. They're mostly just sayings here now (US, SE Region).
– KannE
Dec 13 '18 at 19:24
Here and for the last 50 years at least, I would say that little kids say that phrase routinely years before they even realize that gosh isn't a synonym of goodness or something like that. That phrase is just too common here; you could say oh, my word, and no one would think of a word, not any word. They're mostly just sayings here now (US, SE Region).
– KannE
Dec 13 '18 at 19:24
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Quite the reverse. It's an example of a 'minced oath', where a similar-sounding word is substituted for the name of God in an expletive so as to avoid blasphemy. In 19th-century fiction, if a 'bad' character swore it would frequently be written as 'By G-d' or 'D-n you', as swearing was considered so offensive in polite society. Nowadays, I've noticed that some people use religious oaths meaninglessly without caring that they are offensive to believers.
answered Dec 13 '18 at 9:49
Kate BuntingKate Bunting
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I've noticed that some people use religious oaths meaninglessly without caring that they are offensive to believers Many simply don't know that what they're saying causes offence, for them it's simply part of the patios they grew up speaking and would be bemused if told that their mode of expression is offensive to some.
– Binary Worrier
Dec 13 '18 at 15:43
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There's a sea captain in the operetta HMS Pinafore (1878) who claims as a point of pride that he "never uses a big, big D". Of course, he does say "damn" towards the end, and everyone is shocked.
– Michael Seifert
Dec 13 '18 at 15:53
8
"without caring that they are offensive to believers" They might not be offensive to believers any more though.
– thosphor
Dec 13 '18 at 16:48
5
"Look, I don't think it ought to be blasphemy, just saying 'Jehova'."
– MichaelK
Dec 13 '18 at 17:31
4
I'm an atheist, and in principle I would prefer to avoid using religious-based oaths, simply because they don't make sense given that I don't believe in any religion. However, having grown up in the culture I did, it's basically impossible to do. When I'm frustrated, I say things like, "Oh, Jesus, come on," simply because they're part of the linguistic environment that was programmed into me from an early age.
– Ben Crowell
Dec 14 '18 at 0:50
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Quite the reverse. It's an example of a 'minced oath', where a similar-sounding word is substituted for the name of God in an expletive so as to avoid blasphemy. In 19th-century fiction, if a 'bad' character swore it would frequently be written as 'By G-d' or 'D-n you', as swearing was considered so offensive in polite society. Nowadays, I've noticed that some people use religious oaths meaninglessly without caring that they are offensive to believers.
answered Dec 13 '18 at 9:49
Kate BuntingKate Bunting
5,96631417
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I've noticed that some people use religious oaths meaninglessly without caring that they are offensive to believers Many simply don't know that what they're saying causes offence, for them it's simply part of the patios they grew up speaking and would be bemused if told that their mode of expression is offensive to some.
– Binary Worrier
Dec 13 '18 at 15:43
6
There's a sea captain in the operetta HMS Pinafore (1878) who claims as a point of pride that he "never uses a big, big D". Of course, he does say "damn" towards the end, and everyone is shocked.
– Michael Seifert
Dec 13 '18 at 15:53
8
"without caring that they are offensive to believers" They might not be offensive to believers any more though.
– thosphor
Dec 13 '18 at 16:48
5
"Look, I don't think it ought to be blasphemy, just saying 'Jehova'."
– MichaelK
Dec 13 '18 at 17:31
4
I'm an atheist, and in principle I would prefer to avoid using religious-based oaths, simply because they don't make sense given that I don't believe in any religion. However, having grown up in the culture I did, it's basically impossible to do. When I'm frustrated, I say things like, "Oh, Jesus, come on," simply because they're part of the linguistic environment that was programmed into me from an early age.
– Ben Crowell
Dec 14 '18 at 0:50
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show 5 more comments
Quite the reverse. It's an example of a 'minced oath', where a similar-sounding word is substituted for the name of God in an expletive so as to avoid blasphemy. In 19th-century fiction, if a 'bad' character swore it would frequently be written as 'By G-d' or 'D-n you', as swearing was considered so offensive in polite society. Nowadays, I've noticed that some people use religious oaths meaninglessly without caring that they are offensive to believers.
answered Dec 13 '18 at 9:49
Kate BuntingKate Bunting
5,96631417
18
I've noticed that some people use religious oaths meaninglessly without caring that they are offensive to believers Many simply don't know that what they're saying causes offence, for them it's simply part of the patios they grew up speaking and would be bemused if told that their mode of expression is offensive to some.
– Binary Worrier
Dec 13 '18 at 15:43
6
There's a sea captain in the operetta HMS Pinafore (1878) who claims as a point of pride that he "never uses a big, big D". Of course, he does say "damn" towards the end, and everyone is shocked.
– Michael Seifert
Dec 13 '18 at 15:53
8
"without caring that they are offensive to believers" They might not be offensive to believers any more though.
– thosphor
Dec 13 '18 at 16:48
5
"Look, I don't think it ought to be blasphemy, just saying 'Jehova'."
– MichaelK
Dec 13 '18 at 17:31
4
I'm an atheist, and in principle I would prefer to avoid using religious-based oaths, simply because they don't make sense given that I don't believe in any religion. However, having grown up in the culture I did, it's basically impossible to do. When I'm frustrated, I say things like, "Oh, Jesus, come on," simply because they're part of the linguistic environment that was programmed into me from an early age.
– Ben Crowell
Dec 14 '18 at 0:50
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show 5 more comments
Quite the reverse. It's an example of a 'minced oath', where a similar-sounding word is substituted for the name of God in an expletive so as to avoid blasphemy. In 19th-century fiction, if a 'bad' character swore it would frequently be written as 'By G-d' or 'D-n you', as swearing was considered so offensive in polite society. Nowadays, I've noticed that some people use religious oaths meaninglessly without caring that they are offensive to believers.
answered Dec 13 '18 at 9:49
Kate BuntingKate Bunting
5,96631417
Quite the reverse. It's an example of a 'minced oath', where a similar-sounding word is substituted for the name of God in an expletive so as to avoid blasphemy. In 19th-century fiction, if a 'bad' character swore it would frequently be written as 'By G-d' or 'D-n you', as swearing was considered so offensive in polite society. Nowadays, I've noticed that some people use religious oaths meaninglessly without caring that they are offensive to believers.
answered Dec 13 '18 at 9:49
Kate BuntingKate Bunting
5,96631417
answered Dec 13 '18 at 9:49
Kate BuntingKate Bunting
5,96631417
answered Dec 13 '18 at 9:49
Kate BuntingKate Bunting
5,96631417
answered Dec 13 '18 at 9:49
Kate BuntingKate Bunting
5,96631417
5,96631417
18
I've noticed that some people use religious oaths meaninglessly without caring that they are offensive to believers Many simply don't know that what they're saying causes offence, for them it's simply part of the patios they grew up speaking and would be bemused if told that their mode of expression is offensive to some.
– Binary Worrier
Dec 13 '18 at 15:43
6
There's a sea captain in the operetta HMS Pinafore (1878) who claims as a point of pride that he "never uses a big, big D". Of course, he does say "damn" towards the end, and everyone is shocked.
– Michael Seifert
Dec 13 '18 at 15:53
8
"without caring that they are offensive to believers" They might not be offensive to believers any more though.
– thosphor
Dec 13 '18 at 16:48
5
"Look, I don't think it ought to be blasphemy, just saying 'Jehova'."
– MichaelK
Dec 13 '18 at 17:31
4
I'm an atheist, and in principle I would prefer to avoid using religious-based oaths, simply because they don't make sense given that I don't believe in any religion. However, having grown up in the culture I did, it's basically impossible to do. When I'm frustrated, I say things like, "Oh, Jesus, come on," simply because they're part of the linguistic environment that was programmed into me from an early age.
– Ben Crowell
Dec 14 '18 at 0:50
|
show 5 more comments
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I've noticed that some people use religious oaths meaninglessly without caring that they are offensive to believers Many simply don't know that what they're saying causes offence, for them it's simply part of the patios they grew up speaking and would be bemused if told that their mode of expression is offensive to some.
– Binary Worrier
Dec 13 '18 at 15:43
6
There's a sea captain in the operetta HMS Pinafore (1878) who claims as a point of pride that he "never uses a big, big D". Of course, he does say "damn" towards the end, and everyone is shocked.
– Michael Seifert
Dec 13 '18 at 15:53
8
"without caring that they are offensive to believers" They might not be offensive to believers any more though.
– thosphor
Dec 13 '18 at 16:48
5
"Look, I don't think it ought to be blasphemy, just saying 'Jehova'."
– MichaelK
Dec 13 '18 at 17:31
4
I'm an atheist, and in principle I would prefer to avoid using religious-based oaths, simply because they don't make sense given that I don't believe in any religion. However, having grown up in the culture I did, it's basically impossible to do. When I'm frustrated, I say things like, "Oh, Jesus, come on," simply because they're part of the linguistic environment that was programmed into me from an early age.
– Ben Crowell
Dec 14 '18 at 0:50
18
18
I've noticed that some people use religious oaths meaninglessly without caring that they are offensive to believers Many simply don't know that what they're saying causes offence, for them it's simply part of the patios they grew up speaking and would be bemused if told that their mode of expression is offensive to some.
– Binary Worrier
Dec 13 '18 at 15:43
I've noticed that some people use religious oaths meaninglessly without caring that they are offensive to believers Many simply don't know that what they're saying causes offence, for them it's simply part of the patios they grew up speaking and would be bemused if told that their mode of expression is offensive to some.
– Binary Worrier
Dec 13 '18 at 15:43
6
6
There's a sea captain in the operetta HMS Pinafore (1878) who claims as a point of pride that he "never uses a big, big D". Of course, he does say "damn" towards the end, and everyone is shocked.
– Michael Seifert
Dec 13 '18 at 15:53
There's a sea captain in the operetta HMS Pinafore (1878) who claims as a point of pride that he "never uses a big, big D". Of course, he does say "damn" towards the end, and everyone is shocked.
– Michael Seifert
Dec 13 '18 at 15:53
8
8
"without caring that they are offensive to believers" They might not be offensive to believers any more though.
– thosphor
Dec 13 '18 at 16:48
"without caring that they are offensive to believers" They might not be offensive to believers any more though.
– thosphor
Dec 13 '18 at 16:48
5
5
"Look, I don't think it ought to be blasphemy, just saying 'Jehova'."
– MichaelK
Dec 13 '18 at 17:31
"Look, I don't think it ought to be blasphemy, just saying 'Jehova'."
– MichaelK
Dec 13 '18 at 17:31
4
4
I'm an atheist, and in principle I would prefer to avoid using religious-based oaths, simply because they don't make sense given that I don't believe in any religion. However, having grown up in the culture I did, it's basically impossible to do. When I'm frustrated, I say things like, "Oh, Jesus, come on," simply because they're part of the linguistic environment that was programmed into me from an early age.
– Ben Crowell
Dec 14 '18 at 0:50
I'm an atheist, and in principle I would prefer to avoid using religious-based oaths, simply because they don't make sense given that I don't believe in any religion. However, having grown up in the culture I did, it's basically impossible to do. When I'm frustrated, I say things like, "Oh, Jesus, come on," simply because they're part of the linguistic environment that was programmed into me from an early age.
– Ben Crowell
Dec 14 '18 at 0:50
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Possibly a good question for: christianity.stackexchange.com
– user240918
Dec 13 '18 at 9:29
38
Some Christians I've known consider "oh my god" to be "taking the Lord's name in vain", which the bible prohibits. So you may find religious people using it for this reason. Also, as you point out, there are people who want to avoid referencing god at all, as a rejection of religion. I have no idea which are more common.
– AndyT
Dec 13 '18 at 9:50
3
@AndyT I suspect there are more Christian English speakers than English speakers who choose to reject religion to the point of never saying /gad/. (lazy IPA)
– Azor Ahai
Dec 13 '18 at 17:56
7
Is there any evidence of anyone who does this out of an anti-theistic persuasion? I've never met an atheist who avoids the G word on principle and I'd think this would be a very, very unusual view to take.
– tmgr
Dec 13 '18 at 18:14
6
Here and for the last 50 years at least, I would say that little kids say that phrase routinely years before they even realize that gosh isn't a synonym of goodness or something like that. That phrase is just too common here; you could say oh, my word, and no one would think of a word, not any word. They're mostly just sayings here now (US, SE Region).
– KannE
Dec 13 '18 at 19:24