Can Analytic Functions on the Circle be Characterized by Sobolev Norms?












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In Exercise I.4.4 of Katznelson's book An Introduction to Harmonic Analysis we learn that the Fourier series $$f(z) = sum_{k=-infty}^{+infty} f_k z^k$$ defines an analytic function in the neighborhood of the unit circle if and only if there are constants $A_f , alpha_f>0$ so that $$|f_k| leq A_f e^{ - alpha_f |k|}.$$ In Chapter 7, Katznelson mentions that the compactness of the circle makes this characterization much simpler than the non-compact case of real line and the Paley-Wiener theorem.



To the question at hand: the exponential decay above implies that the $L^2$ Sobolev norms



$$||f||_s = sum_{k=0}^{infty} k^{2s} |f_k|^2 leq (2s)! A_f B_f^{2s}$$



of regularity $s=0,tfrac{1}{2}, 1, tfrac{3}{2}, 2, ldots$ can all be bounded as above using some constants $A_f, B_f$. For the implication, one plugs the first inequality into the expression for the Sobolev norm and uses geometric series to get $B_f = (1 - e^{-2alpha_f})^{-1}$. Notice that the radius $B_f$ goes to infinity as $alpha_f rightarrow 0$ as expected.



Question: is the converse true? That is, can we characterize the analytic $f$ among all smooth $f$ as being exactly those for which the sequence of Sobolev norms admits a bound $||f||_{s} leq (2s)! A_f B_f^{2s}$ for all $s$?










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    No. For the converse you need to look at the $B_h^{2s}(c)$ you obtain when $h_k(c) = e^{-c |k|}$ and ask that $forall s, B_f^{2s} < A B_h^{2s}(c)$ for some $c,A$
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    Since the circle is compact that $f$ is analytic on some neighborhood of each point of the circle implies it is analytic on some annulus. For the real line it is different as $frac{1}{1-e^{2i pi z} e^{1/(z+1)^2}}$ is analytic on some neighborhood of the real line but not on $Im(z) in (-r,r)$ for any $r$
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    Thank you for your message I agree with your second comment about circle vs. real line case. I would like to know more about your first comment. Are you saying that yes there is some way of modifying what I originally wrote to get a converse, I just had to include a multiplicative constant A?
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In Exercise I.4.4 of Katznelson's book An Introduction to Harmonic Analysis we learn that the Fourier series $$f(z) = sum_{k=-infty}^{+infty} f_k z^k$$ defines an analytic function in the neighborhood of the unit circle if and only if there are constants $A_f , alpha_f>0$ so that $$|f_k| leq A_f e^{ - alpha_f |k|}.$$ In Chapter 7, Katznelson mentions that the compactness of the circle makes this characterization much simpler than the non-compact case of real line and the Paley-Wiener theorem.



To the question at hand: the exponential decay above implies that the $L^2$ Sobolev norms



$$||f||_s = sum_{k=0}^{infty} k^{2s} |f_k|^2 leq (2s)! A_f B_f^{2s}$$



of regularity $s=0,tfrac{1}{2}, 1, tfrac{3}{2}, 2, ldots$ can all be bounded as above using some constants $A_f, B_f$. For the implication, one plugs the first inequality into the expression for the Sobolev norm and uses geometric series to get $B_f = (1 - e^{-2alpha_f})^{-1}$. Notice that the radius $B_f$ goes to infinity as $alpha_f rightarrow 0$ as expected.



Question: is the converse true? That is, can we characterize the analytic $f$ among all smooth $f$ as being exactly those for which the sequence of Sobolev norms admits a bound $||f||_{s} leq (2s)! A_f B_f^{2s}$ for all $s$?










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    No. For the converse you need to look at the $B_h^{2s}(c)$ you obtain when $h_k(c) = e^{-c |k|}$ and ask that $forall s, B_f^{2s} < A B_h^{2s}(c)$ for some $c,A$
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    – reuns
    Dec 10 '18 at 21:23








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    $begingroup$
    Since the circle is compact that $f$ is analytic on some neighborhood of each point of the circle implies it is analytic on some annulus. For the real line it is different as $frac{1}{1-e^{2i pi z} e^{1/(z+1)^2}}$ is analytic on some neighborhood of the real line but not on $Im(z) in (-r,r)$ for any $r$
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    – reuns
    Dec 10 '18 at 21:27












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    Thank you for your message I agree with your second comment about circle vs. real line case. I would like to know more about your first comment. Are you saying that yes there is some way of modifying what I originally wrote to get a converse, I just had to include a multiplicative constant A?
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    – Swallow Tail
    Dec 10 '18 at 21:38
















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In Exercise I.4.4 of Katznelson's book An Introduction to Harmonic Analysis we learn that the Fourier series $$f(z) = sum_{k=-infty}^{+infty} f_k z^k$$ defines an analytic function in the neighborhood of the unit circle if and only if there are constants $A_f , alpha_f>0$ so that $$|f_k| leq A_f e^{ - alpha_f |k|}.$$ In Chapter 7, Katznelson mentions that the compactness of the circle makes this characterization much simpler than the non-compact case of real line and the Paley-Wiener theorem.



To the question at hand: the exponential decay above implies that the $L^2$ Sobolev norms



$$||f||_s = sum_{k=0}^{infty} k^{2s} |f_k|^2 leq (2s)! A_f B_f^{2s}$$



of regularity $s=0,tfrac{1}{2}, 1, tfrac{3}{2}, 2, ldots$ can all be bounded as above using some constants $A_f, B_f$. For the implication, one plugs the first inequality into the expression for the Sobolev norm and uses geometric series to get $B_f = (1 - e^{-2alpha_f})^{-1}$. Notice that the radius $B_f$ goes to infinity as $alpha_f rightarrow 0$ as expected.



Question: is the converse true? That is, can we characterize the analytic $f$ among all smooth $f$ as being exactly those for which the sequence of Sobolev norms admits a bound $||f||_{s} leq (2s)! A_f B_f^{2s}$ for all $s$?










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In Exercise I.4.4 of Katznelson's book An Introduction to Harmonic Analysis we learn that the Fourier series $$f(z) = sum_{k=-infty}^{+infty} f_k z^k$$ defines an analytic function in the neighborhood of the unit circle if and only if there are constants $A_f , alpha_f>0$ so that $$|f_k| leq A_f e^{ - alpha_f |k|}.$$ In Chapter 7, Katznelson mentions that the compactness of the circle makes this characterization much simpler than the non-compact case of real line and the Paley-Wiener theorem.



To the question at hand: the exponential decay above implies that the $L^2$ Sobolev norms



$$||f||_s = sum_{k=0}^{infty} k^{2s} |f_k|^2 leq (2s)! A_f B_f^{2s}$$



of regularity $s=0,tfrac{1}{2}, 1, tfrac{3}{2}, 2, ldots$ can all be bounded as above using some constants $A_f, B_f$. For the implication, one plugs the first inequality into the expression for the Sobolev norm and uses geometric series to get $B_f = (1 - e^{-2alpha_f})^{-1}$. Notice that the radius $B_f$ goes to infinity as $alpha_f rightarrow 0$ as expected.



Question: is the converse true? That is, can we characterize the analytic $f$ among all smooth $f$ as being exactly those for which the sequence of Sobolev norms admits a bound $||f||_{s} leq (2s)! A_f B_f^{2s}$ for all $s$?







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    No. For the converse you need to look at the $B_h^{2s}(c)$ you obtain when $h_k(c) = e^{-c |k|}$ and ask that $forall s, B_f^{2s} < A B_h^{2s}(c)$ for some $c,A$
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    – reuns
    Dec 10 '18 at 21:23








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Since the circle is compact that $f$ is analytic on some neighborhood of each point of the circle implies it is analytic on some annulus. For the real line it is different as $frac{1}{1-e^{2i pi z} e^{1/(z+1)^2}}$ is analytic on some neighborhood of the real line but not on $Im(z) in (-r,r)$ for any $r$
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Dec 10 '18 at 21:27












  • $begingroup$
    Thank you for your message I agree with your second comment about circle vs. real line case. I would like to know more about your first comment. Are you saying that yes there is some way of modifying what I originally wrote to get a converse, I just had to include a multiplicative constant A?
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    – Swallow Tail
    Dec 10 '18 at 21:38
















  • 1




    $begingroup$
    No. For the converse you need to look at the $B_h^{2s}(c)$ you obtain when $h_k(c) = e^{-c |k|}$ and ask that $forall s, B_f^{2s} < A B_h^{2s}(c)$ for some $c,A$
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Dec 10 '18 at 21:23








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Since the circle is compact that $f$ is analytic on some neighborhood of each point of the circle implies it is analytic on some annulus. For the real line it is different as $frac{1}{1-e^{2i pi z} e^{1/(z+1)^2}}$ is analytic on some neighborhood of the real line but not on $Im(z) in (-r,r)$ for any $r$
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Dec 10 '18 at 21:27












  • $begingroup$
    Thank you for your message I agree with your second comment about circle vs. real line case. I would like to know more about your first comment. Are you saying that yes there is some way of modifying what I originally wrote to get a converse, I just had to include a multiplicative constant A?
    $endgroup$
    – Swallow Tail
    Dec 10 '18 at 21:38










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$begingroup$
No. For the converse you need to look at the $B_h^{2s}(c)$ you obtain when $h_k(c) = e^{-c |k|}$ and ask that $forall s, B_f^{2s} < A B_h^{2s}(c)$ for some $c,A$
$endgroup$
– reuns
Dec 10 '18 at 21:23






$begingroup$
No. For the converse you need to look at the $B_h^{2s}(c)$ you obtain when $h_k(c) = e^{-c |k|}$ and ask that $forall s, B_f^{2s} < A B_h^{2s}(c)$ for some $c,A$
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– reuns
Dec 10 '18 at 21:23






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$begingroup$
Since the circle is compact that $f$ is analytic on some neighborhood of each point of the circle implies it is analytic on some annulus. For the real line it is different as $frac{1}{1-e^{2i pi z} e^{1/(z+1)^2}}$ is analytic on some neighborhood of the real line but not on $Im(z) in (-r,r)$ for any $r$
$endgroup$
– reuns
Dec 10 '18 at 21:27






$begingroup$
Since the circle is compact that $f$ is analytic on some neighborhood of each point of the circle implies it is analytic on some annulus. For the real line it is different as $frac{1}{1-e^{2i pi z} e^{1/(z+1)^2}}$ is analytic on some neighborhood of the real line but not on $Im(z) in (-r,r)$ for any $r$
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– reuns
Dec 10 '18 at 21:27














$begingroup$
Thank you for your message I agree with your second comment about circle vs. real line case. I would like to know more about your first comment. Are you saying that yes there is some way of modifying what I originally wrote to get a converse, I just had to include a multiplicative constant A?
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– Swallow Tail
Dec 10 '18 at 21:38






$begingroup$
Thank you for your message I agree with your second comment about circle vs. real line case. I would like to know more about your first comment. Are you saying that yes there is some way of modifying what I originally wrote to get a converse, I just had to include a multiplicative constant A?
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– Swallow Tail
Dec 10 '18 at 21:38












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