Prove by contradiction that every integer greater than 11 is a sum of two composite numbers












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I have thought a lot but am failing to arrive at anything encouraging.



First try: If this is to be proved by contradiction, then I start with the assumption that let $n$ be a number which is a sum of two numbers, of which at least one is prime. This gives $n = p + c$, where $p$ is the prime number and $c$ is the composite number. Also, any composite number can be written as a product of primes. So I can say, $n = p + p_1^{e_1}.p_2^{e_2}...p_k^{e_k}$. From this, I get $n - p = p_1^{e_1}.p_2^{e_2}...p_k^{e_k}$, but I have no clue what to do next.



Second try: For an instant let me forget about contradiction. Since $n > 11$, I can say that $n geq 12$. This means that either $p geq 6$ or $c geq 6$. Again I'm not sure what to do next.



Finally, consider that the number 20 can be expressed in three different ways: $17+3$ (both prime), $16+4$ (both composite), and $18+2$ (one prime and one composite). This makes me wonder what we are trying to prove.



The textbook contains a hint, "Can all three of $n-4$, $n-6$, $n-8$ be prime?", but I'm sure what's so special about $4, 6, 8$ here.










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    At least one of the three numbers $n-4$, $n-6$, $n-8$ is divisible by a certain prime...
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    (what we are trying to prove is that it exists at least one way to write a number greater than 11 as the sum of two composite numbers. You may partition it in many different ways: what matters is, at least one partition uses two composite numbers)
    – mau
    Jul 24 '13 at 10:15










  • In your first try, you should say that $n$ is a number such that for every way of expressing it as a sum, at least one number is prime. For example, $12$ satisfies what you say, because $12=9+3$ and $3$ is prime. You then cannot assume the sum includes a composite-both numbers can be prime. Neither of these observations go to the heart of the problem.
    – Ross Millikan
    Feb 10 '15 at 16:48










  • A hint different from the text's: Suppose the statement is false and look at the smallest counterexample n.. Since 12= 8+4 13= 9 +4 14 =8+6 and 15= 9+6, n is greater than 16.
    – Airymouse
    Dec 18 '16 at 14:52
















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I have thought a lot but am failing to arrive at anything encouraging.



First try: If this is to be proved by contradiction, then I start with the assumption that let $n$ be a number which is a sum of two numbers, of which at least one is prime. This gives $n = p + c$, where $p$ is the prime number and $c$ is the composite number. Also, any composite number can be written as a product of primes. So I can say, $n = p + p_1^{e_1}.p_2^{e_2}...p_k^{e_k}$. From this, I get $n - p = p_1^{e_1}.p_2^{e_2}...p_k^{e_k}$, but I have no clue what to do next.



Second try: For an instant let me forget about contradiction. Since $n > 11$, I can say that $n geq 12$. This means that either $p geq 6$ or $c geq 6$. Again I'm not sure what to do next.



Finally, consider that the number 20 can be expressed in three different ways: $17+3$ (both prime), $16+4$ (both composite), and $18+2$ (one prime and one composite). This makes me wonder what we are trying to prove.



The textbook contains a hint, "Can all three of $n-4$, $n-6$, $n-8$ be prime?", but I'm sure what's so special about $4, 6, 8$ here.










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    At least one of the three numbers $n-4$, $n-6$, $n-8$ is divisible by a certain prime...
    – anon
    Jul 24 '13 at 9:08






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    (what we are trying to prove is that it exists at least one way to write a number greater than 11 as the sum of two composite numbers. You may partition it in many different ways: what matters is, at least one partition uses two composite numbers)
    – mau
    Jul 24 '13 at 10:15










  • In your first try, you should say that $n$ is a number such that for every way of expressing it as a sum, at least one number is prime. For example, $12$ satisfies what you say, because $12=9+3$ and $3$ is prime. You then cannot assume the sum includes a composite-both numbers can be prime. Neither of these observations go to the heart of the problem.
    – Ross Millikan
    Feb 10 '15 at 16:48










  • A hint different from the text's: Suppose the statement is false and look at the smallest counterexample n.. Since 12= 8+4 13= 9 +4 14 =8+6 and 15= 9+6, n is greater than 16.
    – Airymouse
    Dec 18 '16 at 14:52














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I have thought a lot but am failing to arrive at anything encouraging.



First try: If this is to be proved by contradiction, then I start with the assumption that let $n$ be a number which is a sum of two numbers, of which at least one is prime. This gives $n = p + c$, where $p$ is the prime number and $c$ is the composite number. Also, any composite number can be written as a product of primes. So I can say, $n = p + p_1^{e_1}.p_2^{e_2}...p_k^{e_k}$. From this, I get $n - p = p_1^{e_1}.p_2^{e_2}...p_k^{e_k}$, but I have no clue what to do next.



Second try: For an instant let me forget about contradiction. Since $n > 11$, I can say that $n geq 12$. This means that either $p geq 6$ or $c geq 6$. Again I'm not sure what to do next.



Finally, consider that the number 20 can be expressed in three different ways: $17+3$ (both prime), $16+4$ (both composite), and $18+2$ (one prime and one composite). This makes me wonder what we are trying to prove.



The textbook contains a hint, "Can all three of $n-4$, $n-6$, $n-8$ be prime?", but I'm sure what's so special about $4, 6, 8$ here.










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I have thought a lot but am failing to arrive at anything encouraging.



First try: If this is to be proved by contradiction, then I start with the assumption that let $n$ be a number which is a sum of two numbers, of which at least one is prime. This gives $n = p + c$, where $p$ is the prime number and $c$ is the composite number. Also, any composite number can be written as a product of primes. So I can say, $n = p + p_1^{e_1}.p_2^{e_2}...p_k^{e_k}$. From this, I get $n - p = p_1^{e_1}.p_2^{e_2}...p_k^{e_k}$, but I have no clue what to do next.



Second try: For an instant let me forget about contradiction. Since $n > 11$, I can say that $n geq 12$. This means that either $p geq 6$ or $c geq 6$. Again I'm not sure what to do next.



Finally, consider that the number 20 can be expressed in three different ways: $17+3$ (both prime), $16+4$ (both composite), and $18+2$ (one prime and one composite). This makes me wonder what we are trying to prove.



The textbook contains a hint, "Can all three of $n-4$, $n-6$, $n-8$ be prime?", but I'm sure what's so special about $4, 6, 8$ here.







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    At least one of the three numbers $n-4$, $n-6$, $n-8$ is divisible by a certain prime...
    – anon
    Jul 24 '13 at 9:08






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    (what we are trying to prove is that it exists at least one way to write a number greater than 11 as the sum of two composite numbers. You may partition it in many different ways: what matters is, at least one partition uses two composite numbers)
    – mau
    Jul 24 '13 at 10:15










  • In your first try, you should say that $n$ is a number such that for every way of expressing it as a sum, at least one number is prime. For example, $12$ satisfies what you say, because $12=9+3$ and $3$ is prime. You then cannot assume the sum includes a composite-both numbers can be prime. Neither of these observations go to the heart of the problem.
    – Ross Millikan
    Feb 10 '15 at 16:48










  • A hint different from the text's: Suppose the statement is false and look at the smallest counterexample n.. Since 12= 8+4 13= 9 +4 14 =8+6 and 15= 9+6, n is greater than 16.
    – Airymouse
    Dec 18 '16 at 14:52














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    At least one of the three numbers $n-4$, $n-6$, $n-8$ is divisible by a certain prime...
    – anon
    Jul 24 '13 at 9:08






  • 1




    (what we are trying to prove is that it exists at least one way to write a number greater than 11 as the sum of two composite numbers. You may partition it in many different ways: what matters is, at least one partition uses two composite numbers)
    – mau
    Jul 24 '13 at 10:15










  • In your first try, you should say that $n$ is a number such that for every way of expressing it as a sum, at least one number is prime. For example, $12$ satisfies what you say, because $12=9+3$ and $3$ is prime. You then cannot assume the sum includes a composite-both numbers can be prime. Neither of these observations go to the heart of the problem.
    – Ross Millikan
    Feb 10 '15 at 16:48










  • A hint different from the text's: Suppose the statement is false and look at the smallest counterexample n.. Since 12= 8+4 13= 9 +4 14 =8+6 and 15= 9+6, n is greater than 16.
    – Airymouse
    Dec 18 '16 at 14:52








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At least one of the three numbers $n-4$, $n-6$, $n-8$ is divisible by a certain prime...
– anon
Jul 24 '13 at 9:08




At least one of the three numbers $n-4$, $n-6$, $n-8$ is divisible by a certain prime...
– anon
Jul 24 '13 at 9:08




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(what we are trying to prove is that it exists at least one way to write a number greater than 11 as the sum of two composite numbers. You may partition it in many different ways: what matters is, at least one partition uses two composite numbers)
– mau
Jul 24 '13 at 10:15




(what we are trying to prove is that it exists at least one way to write a number greater than 11 as the sum of two composite numbers. You may partition it in many different ways: what matters is, at least one partition uses two composite numbers)
– mau
Jul 24 '13 at 10:15












In your first try, you should say that $n$ is a number such that for every way of expressing it as a sum, at least one number is prime. For example, $12$ satisfies what you say, because $12=9+3$ and $3$ is prime. You then cannot assume the sum includes a composite-both numbers can be prime. Neither of these observations go to the heart of the problem.
– Ross Millikan
Feb 10 '15 at 16:48




In your first try, you should say that $n$ is a number such that for every way of expressing it as a sum, at least one number is prime. For example, $12$ satisfies what you say, because $12=9+3$ and $3$ is prime. You then cannot assume the sum includes a composite-both numbers can be prime. Neither of these observations go to the heart of the problem.
– Ross Millikan
Feb 10 '15 at 16:48












A hint different from the text's: Suppose the statement is false and look at the smallest counterexample n.. Since 12= 8+4 13= 9 +4 14 =8+6 and 15= 9+6, n is greater than 16.
– Airymouse
Dec 18 '16 at 14:52




A hint different from the text's: Suppose the statement is false and look at the smallest counterexample n.. Since 12= 8+4 13= 9 +4 14 =8+6 and 15= 9+6, n is greater than 16.
– Airymouse
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You can write $n = (n - varepsilon) + varepsilon$, where $varepsilon in {4, 6, 8}$.




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$n - varepsilon > 3$, as $n > 11$.




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One of the three numbers $n - varepsilon$ is divisible by $3$, as they are distinct modulo $3$.







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  • This is great! But where does this involve proof by contradiction?
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  • It doesn't. So what? Why do you care how it's proved?
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    Writing the same proof with $varepsilon in {8,9}$ makes it even more obvious (everyone knows that for any $p>2$, either $p$ or $p+1$ is an even composite)
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    Feb 12 '15 at 20:17





















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How about this solution??



If $n$ is even, then $n$ is of the form $2k$ where $k geq 6$. Hence $n = 2(k-4) +8$.



And if $n$ is odd, then $n$ is of the form $2k+1$ where $kgeq5$. hence $n = 2(k -4) +9$.



Thus any number $> 11$ can be expressed as the sum of two composite numbers!!






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    Let's say that integer $n>11$ can't be expressed as the sum of two composite numbers. Then:




    • $n=a+p$ (p is a prime and a is a composite or prime number)


    Even numbers that greater than $2$ are composite.



    The number of even numbers that smaller or equal to $n$ is $[frac{n-2}{2}]$(Why?).



    We said that $n$ can't be expressed as sum two composite numbers, then there have to be $[frac{n-2}{2}]$ prime numbers at least(Why?).



    But this result can't hold for $ngeq 30$, a contradiction.






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    • You still have to close the gap between $12$ and $29$ You can do that by exhaustion easily enough, but it needs to be done.
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    Only 9 even numbers greater than 4 can't be expressed as the ORDERED sum of two ODD composites, namely 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 22, 32, 38.



    Look at the 4 identities:
    1. pp(2n)=pr[2,n]-pc(2n)
    2. cc(2n)=c[2,n]-cp(2n)
    3. pp(2n)=pr[n,2n-2]-cp(2n)
    4. cc(2n)=c[n,2n-2]-pc(2n)



    where pp(2n)=number of ordered sum of 2 primes = 2n, cc(2n)=# of ordered sums of 2 composites=2n, cp(2n)=number of ordered sums of 1 composite and 1 prime (in that order)=2n, and pc(2n)= number of ordered sums of 1 prime and 1 composite (in that order)=2n, and a+b is an ordered sum iff a< or = to b, pr[a,b] = number of primes in[a,b], c[a,b] = number of composites in [a,b]



    Lots of other identities to construct from the 4 above - have fun playing with.






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    • and: pr[a,b] = the number of primes in [a,b] and c[a,b]= the number of composites in [a,b]
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    Spoiler #1




    You can write $n = (n - varepsilon) + varepsilon$, where $varepsilon in {4, 6, 8}$.




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    $n - varepsilon > 3$, as $n > 11$.




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    One of the three numbers $n - varepsilon$ is divisible by $3$, as they are distinct modulo $3$.







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    • This is great! But where does this involve proof by contradiction?
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    • It doesn't. So what? Why do you care how it's proved?
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      Writing the same proof with $varepsilon in {8,9}$ makes it even more obvious (everyone knows that for any $p>2$, either $p$ or $p+1$ is an even composite)
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    You can write $n = (n - varepsilon) + varepsilon$, where $varepsilon in {4, 6, 8}$.




    Spoiler #2




    $n - varepsilon > 3$, as $n > 11$.




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    One of the three numbers $n - varepsilon$ is divisible by $3$, as they are distinct modulo $3$.







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      Spoiler #4 >! nice spoiler(+1)
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    • @SamiBenRomdhane, thanks!
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    • This is great! But where does this involve proof by contradiction?
      – dotslash
      Jul 24 '13 at 9:26










    • It doesn't. So what? Why do you care how it's proved?
      – Gerry Myerson
      Jul 24 '13 at 9:36






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      Writing the same proof with $varepsilon in {8,9}$ makes it even more obvious (everyone knows that for any $p>2$, either $p$ or $p+1$ is an even composite)
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    Spoiler #1




    You can write $n = (n - varepsilon) + varepsilon$, where $varepsilon in {4, 6, 8}$.




    Spoiler #2




    $n - varepsilon > 3$, as $n > 11$.




    Spoiler #3




    One of the three numbers $n - varepsilon$ is divisible by $3$, as they are distinct modulo $3$.







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    Spoiler #1




    You can write $n = (n - varepsilon) + varepsilon$, where $varepsilon in {4, 6, 8}$.




    Spoiler #2




    $n - varepsilon > 3$, as $n > 11$.




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    One of the three numbers $n - varepsilon$ is divisible by $3$, as they are distinct modulo $3$.








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      Spoiler #4 >! nice spoiler(+1)
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    • @SamiBenRomdhane, thanks!
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      Jul 24 '13 at 9:07










    • This is great! But where does this involve proof by contradiction?
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      Jul 24 '13 at 9:26










    • It doesn't. So what? Why do you care how it's proved?
      – Gerry Myerson
      Jul 24 '13 at 9:36






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      Writing the same proof with $varepsilon in {8,9}$ makes it even more obvious (everyone knows that for any $p>2$, either $p$ or $p+1$ is an even composite)
      – David Durrleman
      Feb 12 '15 at 20:17
















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      Spoiler #4 >! nice spoiler(+1)
      – user63181
      Jul 24 '13 at 9:07










    • @SamiBenRomdhane, thanks!
      – Andreas Caranti
      Jul 24 '13 at 9:07










    • This is great! But where does this involve proof by contradiction?
      – dotslash
      Jul 24 '13 at 9:26










    • It doesn't. So what? Why do you care how it's proved?
      – Gerry Myerson
      Jul 24 '13 at 9:36






    • 1




      Writing the same proof with $varepsilon in {8,9}$ makes it even more obvious (everyone knows that for any $p>2$, either $p$ or $p+1$ is an even composite)
      – David Durrleman
      Feb 12 '15 at 20:17










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    Spoiler #4 >! nice spoiler(+1)
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    Spoiler #4 >! nice spoiler(+1)
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    @SamiBenRomdhane, thanks!
    – Andreas Caranti
    Jul 24 '13 at 9:07




    @SamiBenRomdhane, thanks!
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    This is great! But where does this involve proof by contradiction?
    – dotslash
    Jul 24 '13 at 9:26




    This is great! But where does this involve proof by contradiction?
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    Jul 24 '13 at 9:26












    It doesn't. So what? Why do you care how it's proved?
    – Gerry Myerson
    Jul 24 '13 at 9:36




    It doesn't. So what? Why do you care how it's proved?
    – Gerry Myerson
    Jul 24 '13 at 9:36




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    Writing the same proof with $varepsilon in {8,9}$ makes it even more obvious (everyone knows that for any $p>2$, either $p$ or $p+1$ is an even composite)
    – David Durrleman
    Feb 12 '15 at 20:17






    Writing the same proof with $varepsilon in {8,9}$ makes it even more obvious (everyone knows that for any $p>2$, either $p$ or $p+1$ is an even composite)
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    How about this solution??



    If $n$ is even, then $n$ is of the form $2k$ where $k geq 6$. Hence $n = 2(k-4) +8$.



    And if $n$ is odd, then $n$ is of the form $2k+1$ where $kgeq5$. hence $n = 2(k -4) +9$.



    Thus any number $> 11$ can be expressed as the sum of two composite numbers!!






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      How about this solution??



      If $n$ is even, then $n$ is of the form $2k$ where $k geq 6$. Hence $n = 2(k-4) +8$.



      And if $n$ is odd, then $n$ is of the form $2k+1$ where $kgeq5$. hence $n = 2(k -4) +9$.



      Thus any number $> 11$ can be expressed as the sum of two composite numbers!!






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        How about this solution??



        If $n$ is even, then $n$ is of the form $2k$ where $k geq 6$. Hence $n = 2(k-4) +8$.



        And if $n$ is odd, then $n$ is of the form $2k+1$ where $kgeq5$. hence $n = 2(k -4) +9$.



        Thus any number $> 11$ can be expressed as the sum of two composite numbers!!






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        How about this solution??



        If $n$ is even, then $n$ is of the form $2k$ where $k geq 6$. Hence $n = 2(k-4) +8$.



        And if $n$ is odd, then $n$ is of the form $2k+1$ where $kgeq5$. hence $n = 2(k -4) +9$.



        Thus any number $> 11$ can be expressed as the sum of two composite numbers!!







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            Let's say that integer $n>11$ can't be expressed as the sum of two composite numbers. Then:




            • $n=a+p$ (p is a prime and a is a composite or prime number)


            Even numbers that greater than $2$ are composite.



            The number of even numbers that smaller or equal to $n$ is $[frac{n-2}{2}]$(Why?).



            We said that $n$ can't be expressed as sum two composite numbers, then there have to be $[frac{n-2}{2}]$ prime numbers at least(Why?).



            But this result can't hold for $ngeq 30$, a contradiction.






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            • You still have to close the gap between $12$ and $29$ You can do that by exhaustion easily enough, but it needs to be done.
              – Ross Millikan
              Dec 18 '16 at 14:43
















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            Let's say that integer $n>11$ can't be expressed as the sum of two composite numbers. Then:




            • $n=a+p$ (p is a prime and a is a composite or prime number)


            Even numbers that greater than $2$ are composite.



            The number of even numbers that smaller or equal to $n$ is $[frac{n-2}{2}]$(Why?).



            We said that $n$ can't be expressed as sum two composite numbers, then there have to be $[frac{n-2}{2}]$ prime numbers at least(Why?).



            But this result can't hold for $ngeq 30$, a contradiction.






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            • You still have to close the gap between $12$ and $29$ You can do that by exhaustion easily enough, but it needs to be done.
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            Let's say that integer $n>11$ can't be expressed as the sum of two composite numbers. Then:




            • $n=a+p$ (p is a prime and a is a composite or prime number)


            Even numbers that greater than $2$ are composite.



            The number of even numbers that smaller or equal to $n$ is $[frac{n-2}{2}]$(Why?).



            We said that $n$ can't be expressed as sum two composite numbers, then there have to be $[frac{n-2}{2}]$ prime numbers at least(Why?).



            But this result can't hold for $ngeq 30$, a contradiction.






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            Let's say that integer $n>11$ can't be expressed as the sum of two composite numbers. Then:




            • $n=a+p$ (p is a prime and a is a composite or prime number)


            Even numbers that greater than $2$ are composite.



            The number of even numbers that smaller or equal to $n$ is $[frac{n-2}{2}]$(Why?).



            We said that $n$ can't be expressed as sum two composite numbers, then there have to be $[frac{n-2}{2}]$ prime numbers at least(Why?).



            But this result can't hold for $ngeq 30$, a contradiction.







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            • You still have to close the gap between $12$ and $29$ You can do that by exhaustion easily enough, but it needs to be done.
              – Ross Millikan
              Dec 18 '16 at 14:43


















            • You still have to close the gap between $12$ and $29$ You can do that by exhaustion easily enough, but it needs to be done.
              – Ross Millikan
              Dec 18 '16 at 14:43
















            You still have to close the gap between $12$ and $29$ You can do that by exhaustion easily enough, but it needs to be done.
            – Ross Millikan
            Dec 18 '16 at 14:43




            You still have to close the gap between $12$ and $29$ You can do that by exhaustion easily enough, but it needs to be done.
            – Ross Millikan
            Dec 18 '16 at 14:43











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            Only 9 even numbers greater than 4 can't be expressed as the ORDERED sum of two ODD composites, namely 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 22, 32, 38.



            Look at the 4 identities:
            1. pp(2n)=pr[2,n]-pc(2n)
            2. cc(2n)=c[2,n]-cp(2n)
            3. pp(2n)=pr[n,2n-2]-cp(2n)
            4. cc(2n)=c[n,2n-2]-pc(2n)



            where pp(2n)=number of ordered sum of 2 primes = 2n, cc(2n)=# of ordered sums of 2 composites=2n, cp(2n)=number of ordered sums of 1 composite and 1 prime (in that order)=2n, and pc(2n)= number of ordered sums of 1 prime and 1 composite (in that order)=2n, and a+b is an ordered sum iff a< or = to b, pr[a,b] = number of primes in[a,b], c[a,b] = number of composites in [a,b]



            Lots of other identities to construct from the 4 above - have fun playing with.






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            • and: pr[a,b] = the number of primes in [a,b] and c[a,b]= the number of composites in [a,b]
              – d williams
              Dec 10 '14 at 23:48






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              For some basic information about writing math at this site see e.g. here, here, here and here.
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            -1














            Only 9 even numbers greater than 4 can't be expressed as the ORDERED sum of two ODD composites, namely 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 22, 32, 38.



            Look at the 4 identities:
            1. pp(2n)=pr[2,n]-pc(2n)
            2. cc(2n)=c[2,n]-cp(2n)
            3. pp(2n)=pr[n,2n-2]-cp(2n)
            4. cc(2n)=c[n,2n-2]-pc(2n)



            where pp(2n)=number of ordered sum of 2 primes = 2n, cc(2n)=# of ordered sums of 2 composites=2n, cp(2n)=number of ordered sums of 1 composite and 1 prime (in that order)=2n, and pc(2n)= number of ordered sums of 1 prime and 1 composite (in that order)=2n, and a+b is an ordered sum iff a< or = to b, pr[a,b] = number of primes in[a,b], c[a,b] = number of composites in [a,b]



            Lots of other identities to construct from the 4 above - have fun playing with.






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            • and: pr[a,b] = the number of primes in [a,b] and c[a,b]= the number of composites in [a,b]
              – d williams
              Dec 10 '14 at 23:48






            • 1




              For some basic information about writing math at this site see e.g. here, here, here and here.
              – Chantry Cargill
              Dec 10 '14 at 23:49














            -1












            -1








            -1






            Only 9 even numbers greater than 4 can't be expressed as the ORDERED sum of two ODD composites, namely 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 22, 32, 38.



            Look at the 4 identities:
            1. pp(2n)=pr[2,n]-pc(2n)
            2. cc(2n)=c[2,n]-cp(2n)
            3. pp(2n)=pr[n,2n-2]-cp(2n)
            4. cc(2n)=c[n,2n-2]-pc(2n)



            where pp(2n)=number of ordered sum of 2 primes = 2n, cc(2n)=# of ordered sums of 2 composites=2n, cp(2n)=number of ordered sums of 1 composite and 1 prime (in that order)=2n, and pc(2n)= number of ordered sums of 1 prime and 1 composite (in that order)=2n, and a+b is an ordered sum iff a< or = to b, pr[a,b] = number of primes in[a,b], c[a,b] = number of composites in [a,b]



            Lots of other identities to construct from the 4 above - have fun playing with.






            share|cite|improve this answer














            Only 9 even numbers greater than 4 can't be expressed as the ORDERED sum of two ODD composites, namely 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 22, 32, 38.



            Look at the 4 identities:
            1. pp(2n)=pr[2,n]-pc(2n)
            2. cc(2n)=c[2,n]-cp(2n)
            3. pp(2n)=pr[n,2n-2]-cp(2n)
            4. cc(2n)=c[n,2n-2]-pc(2n)



            where pp(2n)=number of ordered sum of 2 primes = 2n, cc(2n)=# of ordered sums of 2 composites=2n, cp(2n)=number of ordered sums of 1 composite and 1 prime (in that order)=2n, and pc(2n)= number of ordered sums of 1 prime and 1 composite (in that order)=2n, and a+b is an ordered sum iff a< or = to b, pr[a,b] = number of primes in[a,b], c[a,b] = number of composites in [a,b]



            Lots of other identities to construct from the 4 above - have fun playing with.







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            answered Dec 10 '14 at 23:46









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            • and: pr[a,b] = the number of primes in [a,b] and c[a,b]= the number of composites in [a,b]
              – d williams
              Dec 10 '14 at 23:48






            • 1




              For some basic information about writing math at this site see e.g. here, here, here and here.
              – Chantry Cargill
              Dec 10 '14 at 23:49


















            • and: pr[a,b] = the number of primes in [a,b] and c[a,b]= the number of composites in [a,b]
              – d williams
              Dec 10 '14 at 23:48






            • 1




              For some basic information about writing math at this site see e.g. here, here, here and here.
              – Chantry Cargill
              Dec 10 '14 at 23:49
















            and: pr[a,b] = the number of primes in [a,b] and c[a,b]= the number of composites in [a,b]
            – d williams
            Dec 10 '14 at 23:48




            and: pr[a,b] = the number of primes in [a,b] and c[a,b]= the number of composites in [a,b]
            – d williams
            Dec 10 '14 at 23:48




            1




            1




            For some basic information about writing math at this site see e.g. here, here, here and here.
            – Chantry Cargill
            Dec 10 '14 at 23:49




            For some basic information about writing math at this site see e.g. here, here, here and here.
            – Chantry Cargill
            Dec 10 '14 at 23:49


















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