Freshly inserted pin on a new Shimano chain causes a stiff joint
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I just tried to replace my chain for the first time - Shimano, 9-speed, labeled as CN-GH53. After I inserted the special pin, the joint is somewhat more stiff compared to the other ones. On the insertion side, it seems to protrude from the plate about as much as the regular pins (so almost not at all), and on the other side, where the guiding part of the pin was, it's protruding by about 0.5 mm.
Is this normal, and will it get better once lube penetrates the link, or did I mess something up? I did notice that before I pushed it in enough to be aligned with the regular pins on the one side, the joint couldn't move at all and it got better once I got it further, but I don't want to push it in too far by accident.
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asked Dec 2 at 20:18
koniiiik
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I just tried to replace my chain for the first time - Shimano, 9-speed, labeled as CN-GH53. After I inserted the special pin, the joint is somewhat more stiff compared to the other ones. On the insertion side, it seems to protrude from the plate about as much as the regular pins (so almost not at all), and on the other side, where the guiding part of the pin was, it's protruding by about 0.5 mm.
Is this normal, and will it get better once lube penetrates the link, or did I mess something up? I did notice that before I pushed it in enough to be aligned with the regular pins on the one side, the joint couldn't move at all and it got better once I got it further, but I don't want to push it in too far by accident.
chain
asked Dec 2 at 20:18
koniiiik
1283
Did you use the chain breaker tool or was it the masterlink/powerlink that you used to close the chain?
– Mike
Dec 2 at 20:31
Chain breaker tool.
– koniiiik
Dec 2 at 20:41
I've added my answer, I hope it helps.
– Mike
Dec 2 at 21:29
Read the instructions for the chain tool CAREFULLY. After you join the chain you move the tool so that a second set of fingers engage the chain, then give the lever about a half turn. This loosens the stiff link (that inevitably results from joining the chain).
– Daniel R Hicks
Dec 2 at 23:58
There were no instructions with the tool that I got. :P
– koniiiik
Dec 3 at 22:07
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up vote
5
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up vote
5
down vote
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I just tried to replace my chain for the first time - Shimano, 9-speed, labeled as CN-GH53. After I inserted the special pin, the joint is somewhat more stiff compared to the other ones. On the insertion side, it seems to protrude from the plate about as much as the regular pins (so almost not at all), and on the other side, where the guiding part of the pin was, it's protruding by about 0.5 mm.
Is this normal, and will it get better once lube penetrates the link, or did I mess something up? I did notice that before I pushed it in enough to be aligned with the regular pins on the one side, the joint couldn't move at all and it got better once I got it further, but I don't want to push it in too far by accident.
chain
asked Dec 2 at 20:18
koniiiik
1283
I just tried to replace my chain for the first time - Shimano, 9-speed, labeled as CN-GH53. After I inserted the special pin, the joint is somewhat more stiff compared to the other ones. On the insertion side, it seems to protrude from the plate about as much as the regular pins (so almost not at all), and on the other side, where the guiding part of the pin was, it's protruding by about 0.5 mm.
Is this normal, and will it get better once lube penetrates the link, or did I mess something up? I did notice that before I pushed it in enough to be aligned with the regular pins on the one side, the joint couldn't move at all and it got better once I got it further, but I don't want to push it in too far by accident.
chain
chain
asked Dec 2 at 20:18
koniiiik
1283
asked Dec 2 at 20:18
koniiiik
1283
asked Dec 2 at 20:18
koniiiik
1283
asked Dec 2 at 20:18
koniiiik
1283
asked Dec 2 at 20:18
koniiiik
1283
1283
Did you use the chain breaker tool or was it the masterlink/powerlink that you used to close the chain?
– Mike
Dec 2 at 20:31
Chain breaker tool.
– koniiiik
Dec 2 at 20:41
I've added my answer, I hope it helps.
– Mike
Dec 2 at 21:29
Read the instructions for the chain tool CAREFULLY. After you join the chain you move the tool so that a second set of fingers engage the chain, then give the lever about a half turn. This loosens the stiff link (that inevitably results from joining the chain).
– Daniel R Hicks
Dec 2 at 23:58
There were no instructions with the tool that I got. :P
– koniiiik
Dec 3 at 22:07
add a comment |
Did you use the chain breaker tool or was it the masterlink/powerlink that you used to close the chain?
– Mike
Dec 2 at 20:31
Chain breaker tool.
– koniiiik
Dec 2 at 20:41
I've added my answer, I hope it helps.
– Mike
Dec 2 at 21:29
Read the instructions for the chain tool CAREFULLY. After you join the chain you move the tool so that a second set of fingers engage the chain, then give the lever about a half turn. This loosens the stiff link (that inevitably results from joining the chain).
– Daniel R Hicks
Dec 2 at 23:58
There were no instructions with the tool that I got. :P
– koniiiik
Dec 3 at 22:07
Did you use the chain breaker tool or was it the masterlink/powerlink that you used to close the chain?
– Mike
Dec 2 at 20:31
Did you use the chain breaker tool or was it the masterlink/powerlink that you used to close the chain?
– Mike
Dec 2 at 20:31
Chain breaker tool.
– koniiiik
Dec 2 at 20:41
Chain breaker tool.
– koniiiik
Dec 2 at 20:41
I've added my answer, I hope it helps.
– Mike
Dec 2 at 21:29
I've added my answer, I hope it helps.
– Mike
Dec 2 at 21:29
Read the instructions for the chain tool CAREFULLY. After you join the chain you move the tool so that a second set of fingers engage the chain, then give the lever about a half turn. This loosens the stiff link (that inevitably results from joining the chain).
– Daniel R Hicks
Dec 2 at 23:58
Read the instructions for the chain tool CAREFULLY. After you join the chain you move the tool so that a second set of fingers engage the chain, then give the lever about a half turn. This loosens the stiff link (that inevitably results from joining the chain).
– Daniel R Hicks
Dec 2 at 23:58
There were no instructions with the tool that I got. :P
– koniiiik
Dec 3 at 22:07
There were no instructions with the tool that I got. :P
– koniiiik
Dec 3 at 22:07
add a comment |
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It happens quite often, and can normally be fixed by flexing the chain (perpendicular to the direction it doesn't normally bend easily, i.e. left-right as you look down from a riding position). The easiest way I've found to do this is to position the stiff link on the lower (return) run of chain, where it's slack and grip the chain in both fists with your thumbs meeting over the stiff link. Then bend towards/away from yourself a few times. this should be enough, if everything is in the right place
answered Dec 2 at 20:33
Chris H
21.7k134100
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Thanks, this seems to match my observations - I tried to apply some lube in the meantime, and as I was trying to work it in, I noticed that it was only stiff sometimes - when it was perfectly straight, it had no problem moving. So apparently the new joint just has a lower tolerance for sideways flex.
– koniiiik
Dec 2 at 20:45
My reading of "[flex the chain] perpendicular to the direction it doesn't normally bend easily" is "[flex the chain] in the direction it does bend easily." Please consider correcting or rephrasing.
– SeldomNeedy
Dec 3 at 6:26
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up vote
9
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It happened to me several times and the most reliable way to fix it was to actually push the pin back a bit, i.e. use the breaker tool from the opposite side engaging the chain link on the other bits of the breaker tool, see the picture:
Red is the chain breaking tool
Black are the chain parts
Blue is the pin you are driving in
First you drive the pin (usually from the outside towards the frame) just to see it flush like the other pins on the frame side (middle figure). Since the whole link was resting against the massive part of the breaking tool, it gets somewhat compressed (towards the frame).
You then reposition the chain breaker tool so the chain link rests on the tiny leaves of the breaker tool (see the right-most figure) and drive the pin further relieving the link.
I've found a youtube video titled Bike Assembly and Repair - Chain Breaker Tool that shows the whole process as I've described it above.
answered Dec 2 at 21:28
Mike
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If you read the tool's instructions they will tell you to do this.
– Daniel R Hicks
Dec 2 at 23:59
4
What manual? The Chinese "my friend" didn't attach any to my tool.
– Mike
Dec 3 at 9:44
1
This is the correct answer imo. It is part of the typical process when inserting a new pin into a chain and without doing this the chain will almost always be stiff. The extra chain holder part on the chain tool is for this purpose.
– user74671
Dec 8 at 20:20
add a comment |
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
8
down vote
accepted
It happens quite often, and can normally be fixed by flexing the chain (perpendicular to the direction it doesn't normally bend easily, i.e. left-right as you look down from a riding position). The easiest way I've found to do this is to position the stiff link on the lower (return) run of chain, where it's slack and grip the chain in both fists with your thumbs meeting over the stiff link. Then bend towards/away from yourself a few times. this should be enough, if everything is in the right place
answered Dec 2 at 20:33
Chris H
21.7k134100
1
Thanks, this seems to match my observations - I tried to apply some lube in the meantime, and as I was trying to work it in, I noticed that it was only stiff sometimes - when it was perfectly straight, it had no problem moving. So apparently the new joint just has a lower tolerance for sideways flex.
– koniiiik
Dec 2 at 20:45
My reading of "[flex the chain] perpendicular to the direction it doesn't normally bend easily" is "[flex the chain] in the direction it does bend easily." Please consider correcting or rephrasing.
– SeldomNeedy
Dec 3 at 6:26
add a comment |
up vote
8
down vote
accepted
It happens quite often, and can normally be fixed by flexing the chain (perpendicular to the direction it doesn't normally bend easily, i.e. left-right as you look down from a riding position). The easiest way I've found to do this is to position the stiff link on the lower (return) run of chain, where it's slack and grip the chain in both fists with your thumbs meeting over the stiff link. Then bend towards/away from yourself a few times. this should be enough, if everything is in the right place
answered Dec 2 at 20:33
Chris H
21.7k134100
1
Thanks, this seems to match my observations - I tried to apply some lube in the meantime, and as I was trying to work it in, I noticed that it was only stiff sometimes - when it was perfectly straight, it had no problem moving. So apparently the new joint just has a lower tolerance for sideways flex.
– koniiiik
Dec 2 at 20:45
My reading of "[flex the chain] perpendicular to the direction it doesn't normally bend easily" is "[flex the chain] in the direction it does bend easily." Please consider correcting or rephrasing.
– SeldomNeedy
Dec 3 at 6:26
add a comment |
up vote
8
down vote
accepted
up vote
8
down vote
accepted
It happens quite often, and can normally be fixed by flexing the chain (perpendicular to the direction it doesn't normally bend easily, i.e. left-right as you look down from a riding position). The easiest way I've found to do this is to position the stiff link on the lower (return) run of chain, where it's slack and grip the chain in both fists with your thumbs meeting over the stiff link. Then bend towards/away from yourself a few times. this should be enough, if everything is in the right place
answered Dec 2 at 20:33
Chris H
21.7k134100
It happens quite often, and can normally be fixed by flexing the chain (perpendicular to the direction it doesn't normally bend easily, i.e. left-right as you look down from a riding position). The easiest way I've found to do this is to position the stiff link on the lower (return) run of chain, where it's slack and grip the chain in both fists with your thumbs meeting over the stiff link. Then bend towards/away from yourself a few times. this should be enough, if everything is in the right place
answered Dec 2 at 20:33
Chris H
21.7k134100
answered Dec 2 at 20:33
Chris H
21.7k134100
answered Dec 2 at 20:33
Chris H
21.7k134100
answered Dec 2 at 20:33
Chris H
21.7k134100
21.7k134100
1
Thanks, this seems to match my observations - I tried to apply some lube in the meantime, and as I was trying to work it in, I noticed that it was only stiff sometimes - when it was perfectly straight, it had no problem moving. So apparently the new joint just has a lower tolerance for sideways flex.
– koniiiik
Dec 2 at 20:45
My reading of "[flex the chain] perpendicular to the direction it doesn't normally bend easily" is "[flex the chain] in the direction it does bend easily." Please consider correcting or rephrasing.
– SeldomNeedy
Dec 3 at 6:26
add a comment |
1
Thanks, this seems to match my observations - I tried to apply some lube in the meantime, and as I was trying to work it in, I noticed that it was only stiff sometimes - when it was perfectly straight, it had no problem moving. So apparently the new joint just has a lower tolerance for sideways flex.
– koniiiik
Dec 2 at 20:45
My reading of "[flex the chain] perpendicular to the direction it doesn't normally bend easily" is "[flex the chain] in the direction it does bend easily." Please consider correcting or rephrasing.
– SeldomNeedy
Dec 3 at 6:26
1
1
Thanks, this seems to match my observations - I tried to apply some lube in the meantime, and as I was trying to work it in, I noticed that it was only stiff sometimes - when it was perfectly straight, it had no problem moving. So apparently the new joint just has a lower tolerance for sideways flex.
– koniiiik
Dec 2 at 20:45
Thanks, this seems to match my observations - I tried to apply some lube in the meantime, and as I was trying to work it in, I noticed that it was only stiff sometimes - when it was perfectly straight, it had no problem moving. So apparently the new joint just has a lower tolerance for sideways flex.
– koniiiik
Dec 2 at 20:45
My reading of "[flex the chain] perpendicular to the direction it doesn't normally bend easily" is "[flex the chain] in the direction it does bend easily." Please consider correcting or rephrasing.
– SeldomNeedy
Dec 3 at 6:26
My reading of "[flex the chain] perpendicular to the direction it doesn't normally bend easily" is "[flex the chain] in the direction it does bend easily." Please consider correcting or rephrasing.
– SeldomNeedy
Dec 3 at 6:26
add a comment |
up vote
9
down vote
It happened to me several times and the most reliable way to fix it was to actually push the pin back a bit, i.e. use the breaker tool from the opposite side engaging the chain link on the other bits of the breaker tool, see the picture:
Red is the chain breaking tool
Black are the chain parts
Blue is the pin you are driving in
First you drive the pin (usually from the outside towards the frame) just to see it flush like the other pins on the frame side (middle figure). Since the whole link was resting against the massive part of the breaking tool, it gets somewhat compressed (towards the frame).
You then reposition the chain breaker tool so the chain link rests on the tiny leaves of the breaker tool (see the right-most figure) and drive the pin further relieving the link.
I've found a youtube video titled Bike Assembly and Repair - Chain Breaker Tool that shows the whole process as I've described it above.
answered Dec 2 at 21:28
Mike
3,20611025
1
If you read the tool's instructions they will tell you to do this.
– Daniel R Hicks
Dec 2 at 23:59
4
What manual? The Chinese "my friend" didn't attach any to my tool.
– Mike
Dec 3 at 9:44
1
This is the correct answer imo. It is part of the typical process when inserting a new pin into a chain and without doing this the chain will almost always be stiff. The extra chain holder part on the chain tool is for this purpose.
– user74671
Dec 8 at 20:20
add a comment |
up vote
9
down vote
It happened to me several times and the most reliable way to fix it was to actually push the pin back a bit, i.e. use the breaker tool from the opposite side engaging the chain link on the other bits of the breaker tool, see the picture:
Red is the chain breaking tool
Black are the chain parts
Blue is the pin you are driving in
First you drive the pin (usually from the outside towards the frame) just to see it flush like the other pins on the frame side (middle figure). Since the whole link was resting against the massive part of the breaking tool, it gets somewhat compressed (towards the frame).
You then reposition the chain breaker tool so the chain link rests on the tiny leaves of the breaker tool (see the right-most figure) and drive the pin further relieving the link.
I've found a youtube video titled Bike Assembly and Repair - Chain Breaker Tool that shows the whole process as I've described it above.
answered Dec 2 at 21:28
Mike
3,20611025
1
If you read the tool's instructions they will tell you to do this.
– Daniel R Hicks
Dec 2 at 23:59
4
What manual? The Chinese "my friend" didn't attach any to my tool.
– Mike
Dec 3 at 9:44
1
This is the correct answer imo. It is part of the typical process when inserting a new pin into a chain and without doing this the chain will almost always be stiff. The extra chain holder part on the chain tool is for this purpose.
– user74671
Dec 8 at 20:20
add a comment |
up vote
9
down vote
up vote
9
down vote
It happened to me several times and the most reliable way to fix it was to actually push the pin back a bit, i.e. use the breaker tool from the opposite side engaging the chain link on the other bits of the breaker tool, see the picture:
Red is the chain breaking tool
Black are the chain parts
Blue is the pin you are driving in
First you drive the pin (usually from the outside towards the frame) just to see it flush like the other pins on the frame side (middle figure). Since the whole link was resting against the massive part of the breaking tool, it gets somewhat compressed (towards the frame).
You then reposition the chain breaker tool so the chain link rests on the tiny leaves of the breaker tool (see the right-most figure) and drive the pin further relieving the link.
I've found a youtube video titled Bike Assembly and Repair - Chain Breaker Tool that shows the whole process as I've described it above.
answered Dec 2 at 21:28
Mike
3,20611025
It happened to me several times and the most reliable way to fix it was to actually push the pin back a bit, i.e. use the breaker tool from the opposite side engaging the chain link on the other bits of the breaker tool, see the picture:
Red is the chain breaking tool
Black are the chain parts
Blue is the pin you are driving in
First you drive the pin (usually from the outside towards the frame) just to see it flush like the other pins on the frame side (middle figure). Since the whole link was resting against the massive part of the breaking tool, it gets somewhat compressed (towards the frame).
You then reposition the chain breaker tool so the chain link rests on the tiny leaves of the breaker tool (see the right-most figure) and drive the pin further relieving the link.
I've found a youtube video titled Bike Assembly and Repair - Chain Breaker Tool that shows the whole process as I've described it above.
answered Dec 2 at 21:28
Mike
3,20611025
answered Dec 2 at 21:28
Mike
3,20611025
answered Dec 2 at 21:28
Mike
3,20611025
answered Dec 2 at 21:28
Mike
3,20611025
3,20611025
1
If you read the tool's instructions they will tell you to do this.
– Daniel R Hicks
Dec 2 at 23:59
4
What manual? The Chinese "my friend" didn't attach any to my tool.
– Mike
Dec 3 at 9:44
1
This is the correct answer imo. It is part of the typical process when inserting a new pin into a chain and without doing this the chain will almost always be stiff. The extra chain holder part on the chain tool is for this purpose.
– user74671
Dec 8 at 20:20
add a comment |
1
If you read the tool's instructions they will tell you to do this.
– Daniel R Hicks
Dec 2 at 23:59
4
What manual? The Chinese "my friend" didn't attach any to my tool.
– Mike
Dec 3 at 9:44
1
This is the correct answer imo. It is part of the typical process when inserting a new pin into a chain and without doing this the chain will almost always be stiff. The extra chain holder part on the chain tool is for this purpose.
– user74671
Dec 8 at 20:20
1
1
If you read the tool's instructions they will tell you to do this.
– Daniel R Hicks
Dec 2 at 23:59
If you read the tool's instructions they will tell you to do this.
– Daniel R Hicks
Dec 2 at 23:59
4
4
What manual? The Chinese "my friend" didn't attach any to my tool.
– Mike
Dec 3 at 9:44
What manual? The Chinese "my friend" didn't attach any to my tool.
– Mike
Dec 3 at 9:44
1
1
This is the correct answer imo. It is part of the typical process when inserting a new pin into a chain and without doing this the chain will almost always be stiff. The extra chain holder part on the chain tool is for this purpose.
– user74671
Dec 8 at 20:20
This is the correct answer imo. It is part of the typical process when inserting a new pin into a chain and without doing this the chain will almost always be stiff. The extra chain holder part on the chain tool is for this purpose.
– user74671
Dec 8 at 20:20
add a comment |
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Did you use the chain breaker tool or was it the masterlink/powerlink that you used to close the chain?
– Mike
Dec 2 at 20:31
Chain breaker tool.
– koniiiik
Dec 2 at 20:41
I've added my answer, I hope it helps.
– Mike
Dec 2 at 21:29
Read the instructions for the chain tool CAREFULLY. After you join the chain you move the tool so that a second set of fingers engage the chain, then give the lever about a half turn. This loosens the stiff link (that inevitably results from joining the chain).
– Daniel R Hicks
Dec 2 at 23:58
There were no instructions with the tool that I got. :P
– koniiiik
Dec 3 at 22:07