How can I tell if my wifi router is max out?
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I have a netgear r6300 wifi router for our office, and we have 43 devices connected to it. We're experiencing some problems with the router kicking people off. I suspect we may have too many devices connected on it and we're running out of bandwidth, but I don't know how to properly diagnose that. I can see on the statistics page Tx on the 5ghz endpoint is 557,389 B/s. The 2.4 ghz endpoint is 507,481 B/s. But without any historical record it's hard to pinpoint when spikes have happened. I don't have a NAS, but I do use dropbox and gdrive which large video files could be going into. So bandwidth usage could spike more.
I've thought about going and buying a switch to drop hard lines for some people as our office is wired for that, but I could just buy another wifi router to balance out the load. I will say that the 2ghz endpoint experienced this problem a while back and I moved people that could to the 5ghz endpoint to balancing things out. That worked until now and now 5g is crowded and we're seeing people getting booted.
I thought that the 2ghz could have interference with other wifi networks around us, but 5ghz was alone. No one else has a 5ghz network to interfere with us.
I'm looking for either empirical steps to diagnose usage problems (including 3rd party software) or rule of thumb on how many users a router could support. I have looked for 3rd party firmware (DD-WRT, tomato, etc) that may give me more features to diagnose this on the router, but I haven't found anything.
Any ideas?
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I have a netgear r6300 wifi router for our office, and we have 43 devices connected to it. We're experiencing some problems with the router kicking people off. I suspect we may have too many devices connected on it and we're running out of bandwidth, but I don't know how to properly diagnose that. I can see on the statistics page Tx on the 5ghz endpoint is 557,389 B/s. The 2.4 ghz endpoint is 507,481 B/s. But without any historical record it's hard to pinpoint when spikes have happened. I don't have a NAS, but I do use dropbox and gdrive which large video files could be going into. So bandwidth usage could spike more.
I've thought about going and buying a switch to drop hard lines for some people as our office is wired for that, but I could just buy another wifi router to balance out the load. I will say that the 2ghz endpoint experienced this problem a while back and I moved people that could to the 5ghz endpoint to balancing things out. That worked until now and now 5g is crowded and we're seeing people getting booted.
I thought that the 2ghz could have interference with other wifi networks around us, but 5ghz was alone. No one else has a 5ghz network to interfere with us.
I'm looking for either empirical steps to diagnose usage problems (including 3rd party software) or rule of thumb on how many users a router could support. I have looked for 3rd party firmware (DD-WRT, tomato, etc) that may give me more features to diagnose this on the router, but I haven't found anything.
Any ideas?
wireless-networking wireless-router bandwidth
asked Mar 10 '14 at 19:13
chubbsondubschubbsondubs
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I have a netgear r6300 wifi router for our office, and we have 43 devices connected to it. We're experiencing some problems with the router kicking people off. I suspect we may have too many devices connected on it and we're running out of bandwidth, but I don't know how to properly diagnose that. I can see on the statistics page Tx on the 5ghz endpoint is 557,389 B/s. The 2.4 ghz endpoint is 507,481 B/s. But without any historical record it's hard to pinpoint when spikes have happened. I don't have a NAS, but I do use dropbox and gdrive which large video files could be going into. So bandwidth usage could spike more.
I've thought about going and buying a switch to drop hard lines for some people as our office is wired for that, but I could just buy another wifi router to balance out the load. I will say that the 2ghz endpoint experienced this problem a while back and I moved people that could to the 5ghz endpoint to balancing things out. That worked until now and now 5g is crowded and we're seeing people getting booted.
I thought that the 2ghz could have interference with other wifi networks around us, but 5ghz was alone. No one else has a 5ghz network to interfere with us.
I'm looking for either empirical steps to diagnose usage problems (including 3rd party software) or rule of thumb on how many users a router could support. I have looked for 3rd party firmware (DD-WRT, tomato, etc) that may give me more features to diagnose this on the router, but I haven't found anything.
Any ideas?
wireless-networking wireless-router bandwidth
asked Mar 10 '14 at 19:13
chubbsondubschubbsondubs
1112
I have a netgear r6300 wifi router for our office, and we have 43 devices connected to it. We're experiencing some problems with the router kicking people off. I suspect we may have too many devices connected on it and we're running out of bandwidth, but I don't know how to properly diagnose that. I can see on the statistics page Tx on the 5ghz endpoint is 557,389 B/s. The 2.4 ghz endpoint is 507,481 B/s. But without any historical record it's hard to pinpoint when spikes have happened. I don't have a NAS, but I do use dropbox and gdrive which large video files could be going into. So bandwidth usage could spike more.
I've thought about going and buying a switch to drop hard lines for some people as our office is wired for that, but I could just buy another wifi router to balance out the load. I will say that the 2ghz endpoint experienced this problem a while back and I moved people that could to the 5ghz endpoint to balancing things out. That worked until now and now 5g is crowded and we're seeing people getting booted.
I thought that the 2ghz could have interference with other wifi networks around us, but 5ghz was alone. No one else has a 5ghz network to interfere with us.
I'm looking for either empirical steps to diagnose usage problems (including 3rd party software) or rule of thumb on how many users a router could support. I have looked for 3rd party firmware (DD-WRT, tomato, etc) that may give me more features to diagnose this on the router, but I haven't found anything.
Any ideas?
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Netgear traditionally has a 4096 simultaneous session limit on their home-grade stuff. With that many devices, you can max that out pretty easily I would think.
Try the latest firmware from Netgear (V1.0.2.72), as there's unconfirmed (by me) reports that a later firmware bumps that limit to 65K sessions. If that's not helping, look into buying a business-grade device instead.
References:
- First Look: NETGEAR R6300 WiFi Router-802.11ac Dual Band Gigabit - Routing Perf, Wireless Perf-11ac
The R6300 has higher routing throughput, if that's important to you.
But NETGEAR has kept to its traditional 4,096 limit on simultaneous
sessions.
- Netgear Forums: Maximum Number of Simultaneous/Active Sessions
answered Mar 10 '14 at 19:39
Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007
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You must be quoting specs for a wired router. 802.11 has a hard limit of 2007 simultaneous clients on a single BSS (read: as single AP, but beware that in this sense, a simultaneous dual-band AP is really two APs (two BSSes) in one.) 2007 (x2) is still a lot more than OP's 43 devices, but it still seems wrong to quote stats that only apply to wired devices.
– Spiff
Mar 10 '14 at 19:42
@Spiff While I don't disagree with what you're saying, I quoted stuff that is directly referring to the Router model the user stated. Including that forum link, in which a Netgear rep seems to confirm that there's a session-limit (not a 'device' limit). I would think those session are split amongst all connection types as well (wired or wireless). But I am well aware you're a WiFi savant, so if you've got any ideas, PLEASE post an answer. :)
– Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007
Mar 10 '14 at 19:48
We are far under those limits. We are a company with 50 people. Even with phones, tablets, laptops of 50 people we couldn't exhaust 2K or 4K sessions.
– chubbsondubs
Jan 14 '15 at 21:48
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Netgear traditionally has a 4096 simultaneous session limit on their home-grade stuff. With that many devices, you can max that out pretty easily I would think.
Try the latest firmware from Netgear (V1.0.2.72), as there's unconfirmed (by me) reports that a later firmware bumps that limit to 65K sessions. If that's not helping, look into buying a business-grade device instead.
References:
- First Look: NETGEAR R6300 WiFi Router-802.11ac Dual Band Gigabit - Routing Perf, Wireless Perf-11ac
The R6300 has higher routing throughput, if that's important to you.
But NETGEAR has kept to its traditional 4,096 limit on simultaneous
sessions.
- Netgear Forums: Maximum Number of Simultaneous/Active Sessions
answered Mar 10 '14 at 19:39
Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007
100k14158221
You must be quoting specs for a wired router. 802.11 has a hard limit of 2007 simultaneous clients on a single BSS (read: as single AP, but beware that in this sense, a simultaneous dual-band AP is really two APs (two BSSes) in one.) 2007 (x2) is still a lot more than OP's 43 devices, but it still seems wrong to quote stats that only apply to wired devices.
– Spiff
Mar 10 '14 at 19:42
@Spiff While I don't disagree with what you're saying, I quoted stuff that is directly referring to the Router model the user stated. Including that forum link, in which a Netgear rep seems to confirm that there's a session-limit (not a 'device' limit). I would think those session are split amongst all connection types as well (wired or wireless). But I am well aware you're a WiFi savant, so if you've got any ideas, PLEASE post an answer. :)
– Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007
Mar 10 '14 at 19:48
We are far under those limits. We are a company with 50 people. Even with phones, tablets, laptops of 50 people we couldn't exhaust 2K or 4K sessions.
– chubbsondubs
Jan 14 '15 at 21:48
add a comment |
Netgear traditionally has a 4096 simultaneous session limit on their home-grade stuff. With that many devices, you can max that out pretty easily I would think.
Try the latest firmware from Netgear (V1.0.2.72), as there's unconfirmed (by me) reports that a later firmware bumps that limit to 65K sessions. If that's not helping, look into buying a business-grade device instead.
References:
- First Look: NETGEAR R6300 WiFi Router-802.11ac Dual Band Gigabit - Routing Perf, Wireless Perf-11ac
The R6300 has higher routing throughput, if that's important to you.
But NETGEAR has kept to its traditional 4,096 limit on simultaneous
sessions.
- Netgear Forums: Maximum Number of Simultaneous/Active Sessions
answered Mar 10 '14 at 19:39
Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007
100k14158221
You must be quoting specs for a wired router. 802.11 has a hard limit of 2007 simultaneous clients on a single BSS (read: as single AP, but beware that in this sense, a simultaneous dual-band AP is really two APs (two BSSes) in one.) 2007 (x2) is still a lot more than OP's 43 devices, but it still seems wrong to quote stats that only apply to wired devices.
– Spiff
Mar 10 '14 at 19:42
@Spiff While I don't disagree with what you're saying, I quoted stuff that is directly referring to the Router model the user stated. Including that forum link, in which a Netgear rep seems to confirm that there's a session-limit (not a 'device' limit). I would think those session are split amongst all connection types as well (wired or wireless). But I am well aware you're a WiFi savant, so if you've got any ideas, PLEASE post an answer. :)
– Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007
Mar 10 '14 at 19:48
We are far under those limits. We are a company with 50 people. Even with phones, tablets, laptops of 50 people we couldn't exhaust 2K or 4K sessions.
– chubbsondubs
Jan 14 '15 at 21:48
add a comment |
Netgear traditionally has a 4096 simultaneous session limit on their home-grade stuff. With that many devices, you can max that out pretty easily I would think.
Try the latest firmware from Netgear (V1.0.2.72), as there's unconfirmed (by me) reports that a later firmware bumps that limit to 65K sessions. If that's not helping, look into buying a business-grade device instead.
References:
- First Look: NETGEAR R6300 WiFi Router-802.11ac Dual Band Gigabit - Routing Perf, Wireless Perf-11ac
The R6300 has higher routing throughput, if that's important to you.
But NETGEAR has kept to its traditional 4,096 limit on simultaneous
sessions.
- Netgear Forums: Maximum Number of Simultaneous/Active Sessions
answered Mar 10 '14 at 19:39
Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007
100k14158221
Netgear traditionally has a 4096 simultaneous session limit on their home-grade stuff. With that many devices, you can max that out pretty easily I would think.
Try the latest firmware from Netgear (V1.0.2.72), as there's unconfirmed (by me) reports that a later firmware bumps that limit to 65K sessions. If that's not helping, look into buying a business-grade device instead.
References:
- First Look: NETGEAR R6300 WiFi Router-802.11ac Dual Band Gigabit - Routing Perf, Wireless Perf-11ac
The R6300 has higher routing throughput, if that's important to you.
But NETGEAR has kept to its traditional 4,096 limit on simultaneous
sessions.
- Netgear Forums: Maximum Number of Simultaneous/Active Sessions
answered Mar 10 '14 at 19:39
Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007
100k14158221
answered Mar 10 '14 at 19:39
Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007
100k14158221
answered Mar 10 '14 at 19:39
Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007
100k14158221
answered Mar 10 '14 at 19:39
Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007
100k14158221
100k14158221
You must be quoting specs for a wired router. 802.11 has a hard limit of 2007 simultaneous clients on a single BSS (read: as single AP, but beware that in this sense, a simultaneous dual-band AP is really two APs (two BSSes) in one.) 2007 (x2) is still a lot more than OP's 43 devices, but it still seems wrong to quote stats that only apply to wired devices.
– Spiff
Mar 10 '14 at 19:42
@Spiff While I don't disagree with what you're saying, I quoted stuff that is directly referring to the Router model the user stated. Including that forum link, in which a Netgear rep seems to confirm that there's a session-limit (not a 'device' limit). I would think those session are split amongst all connection types as well (wired or wireless). But I am well aware you're a WiFi savant, so if you've got any ideas, PLEASE post an answer. :)
– Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007
Mar 10 '14 at 19:48
We are far under those limits. We are a company with 50 people. Even with phones, tablets, laptops of 50 people we couldn't exhaust 2K or 4K sessions.
– chubbsondubs
Jan 14 '15 at 21:48
add a comment |
You must be quoting specs for a wired router. 802.11 has a hard limit of 2007 simultaneous clients on a single BSS (read: as single AP, but beware that in this sense, a simultaneous dual-band AP is really two APs (two BSSes) in one.) 2007 (x2) is still a lot more than OP's 43 devices, but it still seems wrong to quote stats that only apply to wired devices.
– Spiff
Mar 10 '14 at 19:42
@Spiff While I don't disagree with what you're saying, I quoted stuff that is directly referring to the Router model the user stated. Including that forum link, in which a Netgear rep seems to confirm that there's a session-limit (not a 'device' limit). I would think those session are split amongst all connection types as well (wired or wireless). But I am well aware you're a WiFi savant, so if you've got any ideas, PLEASE post an answer. :)
– Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007
Mar 10 '14 at 19:48
We are far under those limits. We are a company with 50 people. Even with phones, tablets, laptops of 50 people we couldn't exhaust 2K or 4K sessions.
– chubbsondubs
Jan 14 '15 at 21:48
You must be quoting specs for a wired router. 802.11 has a hard limit of 2007 simultaneous clients on a single BSS (read: as single AP, but beware that in this sense, a simultaneous dual-band AP is really two APs (two BSSes) in one.) 2007 (x2) is still a lot more than OP's 43 devices, but it still seems wrong to quote stats that only apply to wired devices.
– Spiff
Mar 10 '14 at 19:42
You must be quoting specs for a wired router. 802.11 has a hard limit of 2007 simultaneous clients on a single BSS (read: as single AP, but beware that in this sense, a simultaneous dual-band AP is really two APs (two BSSes) in one.) 2007 (x2) is still a lot more than OP's 43 devices, but it still seems wrong to quote stats that only apply to wired devices.
– Spiff
Mar 10 '14 at 19:42
@Spiff While I don't disagree with what you're saying, I quoted stuff that is directly referring to the Router model the user stated. Including that forum link, in which a Netgear rep seems to confirm that there's a session-limit (not a 'device' limit). I would think those session are split amongst all connection types as well (wired or wireless). But I am well aware you're a WiFi savant, so if you've got any ideas, PLEASE post an answer. :)
– Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007
Mar 10 '14 at 19:48
@Spiff While I don't disagree with what you're saying, I quoted stuff that is directly referring to the Router model the user stated. Including that forum link, in which a Netgear rep seems to confirm that there's a session-limit (not a 'device' limit). I would think those session are split amongst all connection types as well (wired or wireless). But I am well aware you're a WiFi savant, so if you've got any ideas, PLEASE post an answer. :)
– Ƭᴇcʜιᴇ007
Mar 10 '14 at 19:48
We are far under those limits. We are a company with 50 people. Even with phones, tablets, laptops of 50 people we couldn't exhaust 2K or 4K sessions.
– chubbsondubs
Jan 14 '15 at 21:48
We are far under those limits. We are a company with 50 people. Even with phones, tablets, laptops of 50 people we couldn't exhaust 2K or 4K sessions.
– chubbsondubs
Jan 14 '15 at 21:48
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