What is the correct interpretation of the Gambling Results table in Xanathar's Guide to Everything?
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In Xanathar's Guide to Everything, one of the downtime options provided in "Downtime, Revised" allows a character to gamble during their downtime to earn extra money.
Gambling
Games of chance are a way to make a fortune—and perhaps a better way to lose one.
[...]
Gambling Results
begin{array}{|l|l|}
hline
text{Result} & text{Value} \ hline
text{0 Successes} & text{Lose all the money you bet, and accrue a debt equal to that amount.} \ hline
text{1 Success} & text{Lose half the money you bet.} \ hline
text{2 Successes} & text{Gain the amount you bet plus half again more.} \ hline
text{3 Successes} & text{Gain double the amount you bet.} \ hline
end{array}
—Xanathar's Guide to Everything, pg. 130
So if I place a bet of 100gp and make my checks against this table, how much would I have, for each category?
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In Xanathar's Guide to Everything, one of the downtime options provided in "Downtime, Revised" allows a character to gamble during their downtime to earn extra money.
Gambling
Games of chance are a way to make a fortune—and perhaps a better way to lose one.
[...]
Gambling Results
begin{array}{|l|l|}
hline
text{Result} & text{Value} \ hline
text{0 Successes} & text{Lose all the money you bet, and accrue a debt equal to that amount.} \ hline
text{1 Success} & text{Lose half the money you bet.} \ hline
text{2 Successes} & text{Gain the amount you bet plus half again more.} \ hline
text{3 Successes} & text{Gain double the amount you bet.} \ hline
end{array}
—Xanathar's Guide to Everything, pg. 130
So if I place a bet of 100gp and make my checks against this table, how much would I have, for each category?
dnd-5e downtime
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add a comment |
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In Xanathar's Guide to Everything, one of the downtime options provided in "Downtime, Revised" allows a character to gamble during their downtime to earn extra money.
Gambling
Games of chance are a way to make a fortune—and perhaps a better way to lose one.
[...]
Gambling Results
begin{array}{|l|l|}
hline
text{Result} & text{Value} \ hline
text{0 Successes} & text{Lose all the money you bet, and accrue a debt equal to that amount.} \ hline
text{1 Success} & text{Lose half the money you bet.} \ hline
text{2 Successes} & text{Gain the amount you bet plus half again more.} \ hline
text{3 Successes} & text{Gain double the amount you bet.} \ hline
end{array}
—Xanathar's Guide to Everything, pg. 130
So if I place a bet of 100gp and make my checks against this table, how much would I have, for each category?
dnd-5e downtime
$endgroup$
In Xanathar's Guide to Everything, one of the downtime options provided in "Downtime, Revised" allows a character to gamble during their downtime to earn extra money.
Gambling
Games of chance are a way to make a fortune—and perhaps a better way to lose one.
[...]
Gambling Results
begin{array}{|l|l|}
hline
text{Result} & text{Value} \ hline
text{0 Successes} & text{Lose all the money you bet, and accrue a debt equal to that amount.} \ hline
text{1 Success} & text{Lose half the money you bet.} \ hline
text{2 Successes} & text{Gain the amount you bet plus half again more.} \ hline
text{3 Successes} & text{Gain double the amount you bet.} \ hline
end{array}
—Xanathar's Guide to Everything, pg. 130
So if I place a bet of 100gp and make my checks against this table, how much would I have, for each category?
dnd-5e downtime
dnd-5e downtime
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This table describes how much money you would have after one week of gambling.
begin{array}{|l|l|l|}
hline
text{Result} & text{Amount you have after Gambling} & text{Gain} \ hline
text{0 Successes} & text{-100gp (a debt of 100gp)} & text{-200gp}\ hline
text{1 Success} & text{50gp} & text{-50gp} \ hline
text{2 Successes} & text{150gp} & text{+50gp} \ hline
text{3 Successes} & text{200gp} & text{+100gp} \ hline
end{array}
You can instead think about it in terms of percentages:
begin{array}{|l|l|l|}
hline
text{Result} & text{Amount you have after Gambling} & text{Gain} \ hline
text{0 Successes} & text{-100%} & text{-200%}\ hline
text{1 Success} & text{50%} & text{-50%} \ hline
text{2 Successes} & text{150%} & text{+50%} \ hline
text{3 Successes} & text{200%} & text{+100%} \ hline
end{array}
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Are these tables from an official source? The wording of "Lose all the money you bet" and "Lose half the money you bet" implies that you still have your bet until the result takes place. But following these tables "Gain the amount you bet" would have to imply that you don't still have your bet. which seems contradictory.
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– Lunin
Feb 21 at 20:44
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@Lunin The table quoted in the original post comes from Xanathar's Guide to Everything. The Tables quoted here are my understanding of what a correct interpretation of that table is. If you feel this interpretation is incorrect, you're welcome to submit your own answer.
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– Xirema
Feb 21 at 20:47
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@Lunin For the record, there was considerable discussion about how the table is supposed to be interpreted, and the implication that a bookie would never allow someone to retain their bet after making a bet was used as justification for this interpretation of the table. There's definitely some ambiguity in how the rules are written though, so there may be a compelling case for an alternate interpretation of those rules...
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– Xirema
Feb 21 at 21:02
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Honestly my knee-jerk reaction was the same as what you've said in your answer, but then I though that perhaps the person asking the question was confused by the ambiguity between "Gain" and "Lose" which the answer didn't seem to address fully and thus was curious if this table was an official clarification. (It honestly wasn't until after I posted my comment that I realized that you were both people, heh) If I have some time later I might post the alternative as an answer with the mechanical implications of each so DMs can decide how "good" gambling should be :)
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– Lunin
Feb 22 at 1:32
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This table describes how much money you would have after one week of gambling.
begin{array}{|l|l|l|}
hline
text{Result} & text{Amount you have after Gambling} & text{Gain} \ hline
text{0 Successes} & text{-100gp (a debt of 100gp)} & text{-200gp}\ hline
text{1 Success} & text{50gp} & text{-50gp} \ hline
text{2 Successes} & text{150gp} & text{+50gp} \ hline
text{3 Successes} & text{200gp} & text{+100gp} \ hline
end{array}
You can instead think about it in terms of percentages:
begin{array}{|l|l|l|}
hline
text{Result} & text{Amount you have after Gambling} & text{Gain} \ hline
text{0 Successes} & text{-100%} & text{-200%}\ hline
text{1 Success} & text{50%} & text{-50%} \ hline
text{2 Successes} & text{150%} & text{+50%} \ hline
text{3 Successes} & text{200%} & text{+100%} \ hline
end{array}
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Are these tables from an official source? The wording of "Lose all the money you bet" and "Lose half the money you bet" implies that you still have your bet until the result takes place. But following these tables "Gain the amount you bet" would have to imply that you don't still have your bet. which seems contradictory.
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– Lunin
Feb 21 at 20:44
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@Lunin The table quoted in the original post comes from Xanathar's Guide to Everything. The Tables quoted here are my understanding of what a correct interpretation of that table is. If you feel this interpretation is incorrect, you're welcome to submit your own answer.
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– Xirema
Feb 21 at 20:47
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@Lunin For the record, there was considerable discussion about how the table is supposed to be interpreted, and the implication that a bookie would never allow someone to retain their bet after making a bet was used as justification for this interpretation of the table. There's definitely some ambiguity in how the rules are written though, so there may be a compelling case for an alternate interpretation of those rules...
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– Xirema
Feb 21 at 21:02
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Honestly my knee-jerk reaction was the same as what you've said in your answer, but then I though that perhaps the person asking the question was confused by the ambiguity between "Gain" and "Lose" which the answer didn't seem to address fully and thus was curious if this table was an official clarification. (It honestly wasn't until after I posted my comment that I realized that you were both people, heh) If I have some time later I might post the alternative as an answer with the mechanical implications of each so DMs can decide how "good" gambling should be :)
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– Lunin
Feb 22 at 1:32
add a comment |
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This table describes how much money you would have after one week of gambling.
begin{array}{|l|l|l|}
hline
text{Result} & text{Amount you have after Gambling} & text{Gain} \ hline
text{0 Successes} & text{-100gp (a debt of 100gp)} & text{-200gp}\ hline
text{1 Success} & text{50gp} & text{-50gp} \ hline
text{2 Successes} & text{150gp} & text{+50gp} \ hline
text{3 Successes} & text{200gp} & text{+100gp} \ hline
end{array}
You can instead think about it in terms of percentages:
begin{array}{|l|l|l|}
hline
text{Result} & text{Amount you have after Gambling} & text{Gain} \ hline
text{0 Successes} & text{-100%} & text{-200%}\ hline
text{1 Success} & text{50%} & text{-50%} \ hline
text{2 Successes} & text{150%} & text{+50%} \ hline
text{3 Successes} & text{200%} & text{+100%} \ hline
end{array}
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$begingroup$
Are these tables from an official source? The wording of "Lose all the money you bet" and "Lose half the money you bet" implies that you still have your bet until the result takes place. But following these tables "Gain the amount you bet" would have to imply that you don't still have your bet. which seems contradictory.
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– Lunin
Feb 21 at 20:44
$begingroup$
@Lunin The table quoted in the original post comes from Xanathar's Guide to Everything. The Tables quoted here are my understanding of what a correct interpretation of that table is. If you feel this interpretation is incorrect, you're welcome to submit your own answer.
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– Xirema
Feb 21 at 20:47
$begingroup$
@Lunin For the record, there was considerable discussion about how the table is supposed to be interpreted, and the implication that a bookie would never allow someone to retain their bet after making a bet was used as justification for this interpretation of the table. There's definitely some ambiguity in how the rules are written though, so there may be a compelling case for an alternate interpretation of those rules...
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– Xirema
Feb 21 at 21:02
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Honestly my knee-jerk reaction was the same as what you've said in your answer, but then I though that perhaps the person asking the question was confused by the ambiguity between "Gain" and "Lose" which the answer didn't seem to address fully and thus was curious if this table was an official clarification. (It honestly wasn't until after I posted my comment that I realized that you were both people, heh) If I have some time later I might post the alternative as an answer with the mechanical implications of each so DMs can decide how "good" gambling should be :)
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– Lunin
Feb 22 at 1:32
add a comment |
$begingroup$
This table describes how much money you would have after one week of gambling.
begin{array}{|l|l|l|}
hline
text{Result} & text{Amount you have after Gambling} & text{Gain} \ hline
text{0 Successes} & text{-100gp (a debt of 100gp)} & text{-200gp}\ hline
text{1 Success} & text{50gp} & text{-50gp} \ hline
text{2 Successes} & text{150gp} & text{+50gp} \ hline
text{3 Successes} & text{200gp} & text{+100gp} \ hline
end{array}
You can instead think about it in terms of percentages:
begin{array}{|l|l|l|}
hline
text{Result} & text{Amount you have after Gambling} & text{Gain} \ hline
text{0 Successes} & text{-100%} & text{-200%}\ hline
text{1 Success} & text{50%} & text{-50%} \ hline
text{2 Successes} & text{150%} & text{+50%} \ hline
text{3 Successes} & text{200%} & text{+100%} \ hline
end{array}
$endgroup$
This table describes how much money you would have after one week of gambling.
begin{array}{|l|l|l|}
hline
text{Result} & text{Amount you have after Gambling} & text{Gain} \ hline
text{0 Successes} & text{-100gp (a debt of 100gp)} & text{-200gp}\ hline
text{1 Success} & text{50gp} & text{-50gp} \ hline
text{2 Successes} & text{150gp} & text{+50gp} \ hline
text{3 Successes} & text{200gp} & text{+100gp} \ hline
end{array}
You can instead think about it in terms of percentages:
begin{array}{|l|l|l|}
hline
text{Result} & text{Amount you have after Gambling} & text{Gain} \ hline
text{0 Successes} & text{-100%} & text{-200%}\ hline
text{1 Success} & text{50%} & text{-50%} \ hline
text{2 Successes} & text{150%} & text{+50%} \ hline
text{3 Successes} & text{200%} & text{+100%} \ hline
end{array}
edited Feb 20 at 18:09
answered Feb 20 at 17:57
XiremaXirema
21.9k263128
21.9k263128
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Are these tables from an official source? The wording of "Lose all the money you bet" and "Lose half the money you bet" implies that you still have your bet until the result takes place. But following these tables "Gain the amount you bet" would have to imply that you don't still have your bet. which seems contradictory.
$endgroup$
– Lunin
Feb 21 at 20:44
$begingroup$
@Lunin The table quoted in the original post comes from Xanathar's Guide to Everything. The Tables quoted here are my understanding of what a correct interpretation of that table is. If you feel this interpretation is incorrect, you're welcome to submit your own answer.
$endgroup$
– Xirema
Feb 21 at 20:47
$begingroup$
@Lunin For the record, there was considerable discussion about how the table is supposed to be interpreted, and the implication that a bookie would never allow someone to retain their bet after making a bet was used as justification for this interpretation of the table. There's definitely some ambiguity in how the rules are written though, so there may be a compelling case for an alternate interpretation of those rules...
$endgroup$
– Xirema
Feb 21 at 21:02
$begingroup$
Honestly my knee-jerk reaction was the same as what you've said in your answer, but then I though that perhaps the person asking the question was confused by the ambiguity between "Gain" and "Lose" which the answer didn't seem to address fully and thus was curious if this table was an official clarification. (It honestly wasn't until after I posted my comment that I realized that you were both people, heh) If I have some time later I might post the alternative as an answer with the mechanical implications of each so DMs can decide how "good" gambling should be :)
$endgroup$
– Lunin
Feb 22 at 1:32
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Are these tables from an official source? The wording of "Lose all the money you bet" and "Lose half the money you bet" implies that you still have your bet until the result takes place. But following these tables "Gain the amount you bet" would have to imply that you don't still have your bet. which seems contradictory.
$endgroup$
– Lunin
Feb 21 at 20:44
$begingroup$
@Lunin The table quoted in the original post comes from Xanathar's Guide to Everything. The Tables quoted here are my understanding of what a correct interpretation of that table is. If you feel this interpretation is incorrect, you're welcome to submit your own answer.
$endgroup$
– Xirema
Feb 21 at 20:47
$begingroup$
@Lunin For the record, there was considerable discussion about how the table is supposed to be interpreted, and the implication that a bookie would never allow someone to retain their bet after making a bet was used as justification for this interpretation of the table. There's definitely some ambiguity in how the rules are written though, so there may be a compelling case for an alternate interpretation of those rules...
$endgroup$
– Xirema
Feb 21 at 21:02
$begingroup$
Honestly my knee-jerk reaction was the same as what you've said in your answer, but then I though that perhaps the person asking the question was confused by the ambiguity between "Gain" and "Lose" which the answer didn't seem to address fully and thus was curious if this table was an official clarification. (It honestly wasn't until after I posted my comment that I realized that you were both people, heh) If I have some time later I might post the alternative as an answer with the mechanical implications of each so DMs can decide how "good" gambling should be :)
$endgroup$
– Lunin
Feb 22 at 1:32
$begingroup$
Are these tables from an official source? The wording of "Lose all the money you bet" and "Lose half the money you bet" implies that you still have your bet until the result takes place. But following these tables "Gain the amount you bet" would have to imply that you don't still have your bet. which seems contradictory.
$endgroup$
– Lunin
Feb 21 at 20:44
$begingroup$
Are these tables from an official source? The wording of "Lose all the money you bet" and "Lose half the money you bet" implies that you still have your bet until the result takes place. But following these tables "Gain the amount you bet" would have to imply that you don't still have your bet. which seems contradictory.
$endgroup$
– Lunin
Feb 21 at 20:44
$begingroup$
@Lunin The table quoted in the original post comes from Xanathar's Guide to Everything. The Tables quoted here are my understanding of what a correct interpretation of that table is. If you feel this interpretation is incorrect, you're welcome to submit your own answer.
$endgroup$
– Xirema
Feb 21 at 20:47
$begingroup$
@Lunin The table quoted in the original post comes from Xanathar's Guide to Everything. The Tables quoted here are my understanding of what a correct interpretation of that table is. If you feel this interpretation is incorrect, you're welcome to submit your own answer.
$endgroup$
– Xirema
Feb 21 at 20:47
$begingroup$
@Lunin For the record, there was considerable discussion about how the table is supposed to be interpreted, and the implication that a bookie would never allow someone to retain their bet after making a bet was used as justification for this interpretation of the table. There's definitely some ambiguity in how the rules are written though, so there may be a compelling case for an alternate interpretation of those rules...
$endgroup$
– Xirema
Feb 21 at 21:02
$begingroup$
@Lunin For the record, there was considerable discussion about how the table is supposed to be interpreted, and the implication that a bookie would never allow someone to retain their bet after making a bet was used as justification for this interpretation of the table. There's definitely some ambiguity in how the rules are written though, so there may be a compelling case for an alternate interpretation of those rules...
$endgroup$
– Xirema
Feb 21 at 21:02
$begingroup$
Honestly my knee-jerk reaction was the same as what you've said in your answer, but then I though that perhaps the person asking the question was confused by the ambiguity between "Gain" and "Lose" which the answer didn't seem to address fully and thus was curious if this table was an official clarification. (It honestly wasn't until after I posted my comment that I realized that you were both people, heh) If I have some time later I might post the alternative as an answer with the mechanical implications of each so DMs can decide how "good" gambling should be :)
$endgroup$
– Lunin
Feb 22 at 1:32
$begingroup$
Honestly my knee-jerk reaction was the same as what you've said in your answer, but then I though that perhaps the person asking the question was confused by the ambiguity between "Gain" and "Lose" which the answer didn't seem to address fully and thus was curious if this table was an official clarification. (It honestly wasn't until after I posted my comment that I realized that you were both people, heh) If I have some time later I might post the alternative as an answer with the mechanical implications of each so DMs can decide how "good" gambling should be :)
$endgroup$
– Lunin
Feb 22 at 1:32
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