$x=(x_n)$ satisfy $sum x_k y_k lt infty$ for all $yin c_0$
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So , I know that $c_0^*$ and $ell_1$ are isomorphic and I guess I need to use it(or the ideas in the proof) in order to solve the following question :
Let $x= (x_n)$ be a sequence s.t for all $y in c_0$ , $sum x_ky_k$ is finite.
I need to prove that $xin ell_1$ .
So $x$ defines a functional -$phi_x$ - on $c_0$, taking $y$ to $sum x_ky_k$.
In order to imitate the proof that $c_0^*$ isomorphic to $ell_1$ I need to use a bounded functional(in order to bound the sum of absolute values of the $x_n$'s) , and im not sure if $phi_x$
is bounded (if so ,how to show it? )
Any ideas?
Thanks for helping!
functional-analysis
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So , I know that $c_0^*$ and $ell_1$ are isomorphic and I guess I need to use it(or the ideas in the proof) in order to solve the following question :
Let $x= (x_n)$ be a sequence s.t for all $y in c_0$ , $sum x_ky_k$ is finite.
I need to prove that $xin ell_1$ .
So $x$ defines a functional -$phi_x$ - on $c_0$, taking $y$ to $sum x_ky_k$.
In order to imitate the proof that $c_0^*$ isomorphic to $ell_1$ I need to use a bounded functional(in order to bound the sum of absolute values of the $x_n$'s) , and im not sure if $phi_x$
is bounded (if so ,how to show it? )
Any ideas?
Thanks for helping!
functional-analysis
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This is actually easy to do without $c_0*=l^1.$
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– zhw.
Dec 9 '18 at 21:49
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Can you explain? @zhw.
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So , I know that $c_0^*$ and $ell_1$ are isomorphic and I guess I need to use it(or the ideas in the proof) in order to solve the following question :
Let $x= (x_n)$ be a sequence s.t for all $y in c_0$ , $sum x_ky_k$ is finite.
I need to prove that $xin ell_1$ .
So $x$ defines a functional -$phi_x$ - on $c_0$, taking $y$ to $sum x_ky_k$.
In order to imitate the proof that $c_0^*$ isomorphic to $ell_1$ I need to use a bounded functional(in order to bound the sum of absolute values of the $x_n$'s) , and im not sure if $phi_x$
is bounded (if so ,how to show it? )
Any ideas?
Thanks for helping!
functional-analysis
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So , I know that $c_0^*$ and $ell_1$ are isomorphic and I guess I need to use it(or the ideas in the proof) in order to solve the following question :
Let $x= (x_n)$ be a sequence s.t for all $y in c_0$ , $sum x_ky_k$ is finite.
I need to prove that $xin ell_1$ .
So $x$ defines a functional -$phi_x$ - on $c_0$, taking $y$ to $sum x_ky_k$.
In order to imitate the proof that $c_0^*$ isomorphic to $ell_1$ I need to use a bounded functional(in order to bound the sum of absolute values of the $x_n$'s) , and im not sure if $phi_x$
is bounded (if so ,how to show it? )
Any ideas?
Thanks for helping!
functional-analysis
functional-analysis
asked Dec 9 '18 at 21:37
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This is actually easy to do without $c_0*=l^1.$
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– zhw.
Dec 9 '18 at 21:49
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Can you explain? @zhw.
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– user123
Dec 9 '18 at 21:50
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1
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This is actually easy to do without $c_0*=l^1.$
$endgroup$
– zhw.
Dec 9 '18 at 21:49
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Can you explain? @zhw.
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– user123
Dec 9 '18 at 21:50
1
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This is actually easy to do without $c_0*=l^1.$
$endgroup$
– zhw.
Dec 9 '18 at 21:49
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This is actually easy to do without $c_0*=l^1.$
$endgroup$
– zhw.
Dec 9 '18 at 21:49
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Can you explain? @zhw.
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– user123
Dec 9 '18 at 21:50
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Can you explain? @zhw.
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If ${T_n}$ is a sequence of bounded linear functionals from one Banach space $X$ to another Banach space $Y$ such that $Tx=lim_n T_n x$ exists for every $x$ then $T$ is necessarily a bounded linear functional. This is a consequence of Banach - Steinhaus Theorem (which is also known as Uniform Boundedness Principle) : just note that there is a finite constant $M$ such that $|T_n| leq M$ for all $n$ and so $|Tx|leq M|x|$.
It follows that $phi_x$ is a continuous linear functional from which it is easy to see (using $c_0^{*}=ell^{1})$ that $x in ell^{1}$.
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Nice. Just to make sure - your $T_n$'s are $T_n(y) = sum_{k=1}^n y_kx_k$ ?
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– user123
Dec 10 '18 at 10:14
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@Liad You are right; we apply the theorem to this sequence.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Dec 10 '18 at 10:17
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Very nice. Thank you!
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Dec 10 '18 at 10:18
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Sketch: Suppose $sum |x_n|=infty.$ Then ${1,2,dots}$ can be partitioned into consecutive blocks of integers $B_1 < B_2 <cdots$ such that
$$sum_{nin B_k}|x_n| > 1,,,k=1,2,dots$$
For $k=1,2,dots $ and $nin B_k,$ set $y_n=(text {sgn } x_n)/k.$ Then $(y_n)in c_0,$ and
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty}x_ny_n = infty.$$
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If ${T_n}$ is a sequence of bounded linear functionals from one Banach space $X$ to another Banach space $Y$ such that $Tx=lim_n T_n x$ exists for every $x$ then $T$ is necessarily a bounded linear functional. This is a consequence of Banach - Steinhaus Theorem (which is also known as Uniform Boundedness Principle) : just note that there is a finite constant $M$ such that $|T_n| leq M$ for all $n$ and so $|Tx|leq M|x|$.
It follows that $phi_x$ is a continuous linear functional from which it is easy to see (using $c_0^{*}=ell^{1})$ that $x in ell^{1}$.
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Nice. Just to make sure - your $T_n$'s are $T_n(y) = sum_{k=1}^n y_kx_k$ ?
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– user123
Dec 10 '18 at 10:14
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@Liad You are right; we apply the theorem to this sequence.
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Dec 10 '18 at 10:17
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Very nice. Thank you!
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Dec 10 '18 at 10:18
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If ${T_n}$ is a sequence of bounded linear functionals from one Banach space $X$ to another Banach space $Y$ such that $Tx=lim_n T_n x$ exists for every $x$ then $T$ is necessarily a bounded linear functional. This is a consequence of Banach - Steinhaus Theorem (which is also known as Uniform Boundedness Principle) : just note that there is a finite constant $M$ such that $|T_n| leq M$ for all $n$ and so $|Tx|leq M|x|$.
It follows that $phi_x$ is a continuous linear functional from which it is easy to see (using $c_0^{*}=ell^{1})$ that $x in ell^{1}$.
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Nice. Just to make sure - your $T_n$'s are $T_n(y) = sum_{k=1}^n y_kx_k$ ?
$endgroup$
– user123
Dec 10 '18 at 10:14
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@Liad You are right; we apply the theorem to this sequence.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Dec 10 '18 at 10:17
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Very nice. Thank you!
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Dec 10 '18 at 10:18
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If ${T_n}$ is a sequence of bounded linear functionals from one Banach space $X$ to another Banach space $Y$ such that $Tx=lim_n T_n x$ exists for every $x$ then $T$ is necessarily a bounded linear functional. This is a consequence of Banach - Steinhaus Theorem (which is also known as Uniform Boundedness Principle) : just note that there is a finite constant $M$ such that $|T_n| leq M$ for all $n$ and so $|Tx|leq M|x|$.
It follows that $phi_x$ is a continuous linear functional from which it is easy to see (using $c_0^{*}=ell^{1})$ that $x in ell^{1}$.
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If ${T_n}$ is a sequence of bounded linear functionals from one Banach space $X$ to another Banach space $Y$ such that $Tx=lim_n T_n x$ exists for every $x$ then $T$ is necessarily a bounded linear functional. This is a consequence of Banach - Steinhaus Theorem (which is also known as Uniform Boundedness Principle) : just note that there is a finite constant $M$ such that $|T_n| leq M$ for all $n$ and so $|Tx|leq M|x|$.
It follows that $phi_x$ is a continuous linear functional from which it is easy to see (using $c_0^{*}=ell^{1})$ that $x in ell^{1}$.
edited Dec 9 '18 at 23:47
answered Dec 9 '18 at 23:41
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Nice. Just to make sure - your $T_n$'s are $T_n(y) = sum_{k=1}^n y_kx_k$ ?
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– user123
Dec 10 '18 at 10:14
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@Liad You are right; we apply the theorem to this sequence.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Dec 10 '18 at 10:17
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Very nice. Thank you!
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Dec 10 '18 at 10:18
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Nice. Just to make sure - your $T_n$'s are $T_n(y) = sum_{k=1}^n y_kx_k$ ?
$endgroup$
– user123
Dec 10 '18 at 10:14
$begingroup$
@Liad You are right; we apply the theorem to this sequence.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Dec 10 '18 at 10:17
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Very nice. Thank you!
$endgroup$
– user123
Dec 10 '18 at 10:18
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Nice. Just to make sure - your $T_n$'s are $T_n(y) = sum_{k=1}^n y_kx_k$ ?
$endgroup$
– user123
Dec 10 '18 at 10:14
$begingroup$
Nice. Just to make sure - your $T_n$'s are $T_n(y) = sum_{k=1}^n y_kx_k$ ?
$endgroup$
– user123
Dec 10 '18 at 10:14
$begingroup$
@Liad You are right; we apply the theorem to this sequence.
$endgroup$
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Dec 10 '18 at 10:17
$begingroup$
@Liad You are right; we apply the theorem to this sequence.
$endgroup$
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Dec 10 '18 at 10:17
$begingroup$
Very nice. Thank you!
$endgroup$
– user123
Dec 10 '18 at 10:18
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Very nice. Thank you!
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Sketch: Suppose $sum |x_n|=infty.$ Then ${1,2,dots}$ can be partitioned into consecutive blocks of integers $B_1 < B_2 <cdots$ such that
$$sum_{nin B_k}|x_n| > 1,,,k=1,2,dots$$
For $k=1,2,dots $ and $nin B_k,$ set $y_n=(text {sgn } x_n)/k.$ Then $(y_n)in c_0,$ and
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty}x_ny_n = infty.$$
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Sketch: Suppose $sum |x_n|=infty.$ Then ${1,2,dots}$ can be partitioned into consecutive blocks of integers $B_1 < B_2 <cdots$ such that
$$sum_{nin B_k}|x_n| > 1,,,k=1,2,dots$$
For $k=1,2,dots $ and $nin B_k,$ set $y_n=(text {sgn } x_n)/k.$ Then $(y_n)in c_0,$ and
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty}x_ny_n = infty.$$
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Sketch: Suppose $sum |x_n|=infty.$ Then ${1,2,dots}$ can be partitioned into consecutive blocks of integers $B_1 < B_2 <cdots$ such that
$$sum_{nin B_k}|x_n| > 1,,,k=1,2,dots$$
For $k=1,2,dots $ and $nin B_k,$ set $y_n=(text {sgn } x_n)/k.$ Then $(y_n)in c_0,$ and
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty}x_ny_n = infty.$$
$endgroup$
Sketch: Suppose $sum |x_n|=infty.$ Then ${1,2,dots}$ can be partitioned into consecutive blocks of integers $B_1 < B_2 <cdots$ such that
$$sum_{nin B_k}|x_n| > 1,,,k=1,2,dots$$
For $k=1,2,dots $ and $nin B_k,$ set $y_n=(text {sgn } x_n)/k.$ Then $(y_n)in c_0,$ and
$$sum_{n=1}^{infty}x_ny_n = infty.$$
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