Equality case in Hölder's inequality
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Let $p$ and $q$ be dual exponents and let $f in L^p(0,1)$ and $g in L^q(0,1)$ be non-zero functions. Further assume that $||fg||_1=||f||_p||g||_q$. Show that $f=cg^{q-1}$ where $c$ is constant.
By Hölder we know that $||fg||_1 leq||f||_p||g||_q$, but I'm not sure how this helps us. By setting $f=cg^{q-1}$ I was able to verify the equality, but I don't know how to prove this is the only solution.
measure-theory inequality lp-spaces
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Let $p$ and $q$ be dual exponents and let $f in L^p(0,1)$ and $g in L^q(0,1)$ be non-zero functions. Further assume that $||fg||_1=||f||_p||g||_q$. Show that $f=cg^{q-1}$ where $c$ is constant.
By Hölder we know that $||fg||_1 leq||f||_p||g||_q$, but I'm not sure how this helps us. By setting $f=cg^{q-1}$ I was able to verify the equality, but I don't know how to prove this is the only solution.
measure-theory inequality lp-spaces
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This result is standard. See the discussion after Theorem 3.5 in Rudin's RCA.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Dec 9 '18 at 23:35
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I looked at Rudin and I don't understand.
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Dec 9 '18 at 23:48
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Let $p$ and $q$ be dual exponents and let $f in L^p(0,1)$ and $g in L^q(0,1)$ be non-zero functions. Further assume that $||fg||_1=||f||_p||g||_q$. Show that $f=cg^{q-1}$ where $c$ is constant.
By Hölder we know that $||fg||_1 leq||f||_p||g||_q$, but I'm not sure how this helps us. By setting $f=cg^{q-1}$ I was able to verify the equality, but I don't know how to prove this is the only solution.
measure-theory inequality lp-spaces
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Let $p$ and $q$ be dual exponents and let $f in L^p(0,1)$ and $g in L^q(0,1)$ be non-zero functions. Further assume that $||fg||_1=||f||_p||g||_q$. Show that $f=cg^{q-1}$ where $c$ is constant.
By Hölder we know that $||fg||_1 leq||f||_p||g||_q$, but I'm not sure how this helps us. By setting $f=cg^{q-1}$ I was able to verify the equality, but I don't know how to prove this is the only solution.
measure-theory inequality lp-spaces
measure-theory inequality lp-spaces
edited Dec 11 '18 at 12:44
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This result is standard. See the discussion after Theorem 3.5 in Rudin's RCA.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Dec 9 '18 at 23:35
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I looked at Rudin and I don't understand.
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– Trobjon
Dec 9 '18 at 23:48
add a comment |
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This result is standard. See the discussion after Theorem 3.5 in Rudin's RCA.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Dec 9 '18 at 23:35
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I looked at Rudin and I don't understand.
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– Trobjon
Dec 9 '18 at 23:48
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This result is standard. See the discussion after Theorem 3.5 in Rudin's RCA.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Dec 9 '18 at 23:35
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This result is standard. See the discussion after Theorem 3.5 in Rudin's RCA.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Dec 9 '18 at 23:35
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I looked at Rudin and I don't understand.
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– Trobjon
Dec 9 '18 at 23:48
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I looked at Rudin and I don't understand.
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– Trobjon
Dec 9 '18 at 23:48
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I will assume that the function are non-negative. Otherwise, the result may not hold, as we can have when $q$ is an even integer $f=1$ and $g=1$ on $(0,1/2)$ and $-1$ on $(1/2,1)$ or even worse $g^{q-1}$ may not be well-defined if $q$ is not rational and $g$ take negative values.
Since $f$ and $g$ are not zero, by scaling, it suffices to consider the case where
$leftlVert frightrVert_p=leftlVert qrightrVert_q=1$.
Observe that for all positive numbers $a$ and $b$, by convexity of the exponential function,
$$
ab=expleft(frac 1pln left(a^pright)+frac 1qln left(b^qright)right)
leqslant frac 1pexpleft(ln left(a^pright) right)+
frac 1qexpleft(ln left(b^qright) right)
$$
hence
$$
tag{*}
ableqslant frac{a^p}p+frac{b^q}q, quad a,bgeqslant 0
$$
and by strict convexity, equality holds if and only if $a^p=b^q$.
Let
$$
h:=frac{f^p}p+frac{g^q}q-fg.
$$
By $(*)$, $h$ is non-negative and by assumption, $int h=0$ hence $h=0$ almost everywhere. By the equality case in $(*)$, we derive that $f^p=g^q$ almost everywhere.
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I will assume that the function are non-negative. Otherwise, the result may not hold, as we can have when $q$ is an even integer $f=1$ and $g=1$ on $(0,1/2)$ and $-1$ on $(1/2,1)$ or even worse $g^{q-1}$ may not be well-defined if $q$ is not rational and $g$ take negative values.
Since $f$ and $g$ are not zero, by scaling, it suffices to consider the case where
$leftlVert frightrVert_p=leftlVert qrightrVert_q=1$.
Observe that for all positive numbers $a$ and $b$, by convexity of the exponential function,
$$
ab=expleft(frac 1pln left(a^pright)+frac 1qln left(b^qright)right)
leqslant frac 1pexpleft(ln left(a^pright) right)+
frac 1qexpleft(ln left(b^qright) right)
$$
hence
$$
tag{*}
ableqslant frac{a^p}p+frac{b^q}q, quad a,bgeqslant 0
$$
and by strict convexity, equality holds if and only if $a^p=b^q$.
Let
$$
h:=frac{f^p}p+frac{g^q}q-fg.
$$
By $(*)$, $h$ is non-negative and by assumption, $int h=0$ hence $h=0$ almost everywhere. By the equality case in $(*)$, we derive that $f^p=g^q$ almost everywhere.
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I will assume that the function are non-negative. Otherwise, the result may not hold, as we can have when $q$ is an even integer $f=1$ and $g=1$ on $(0,1/2)$ and $-1$ on $(1/2,1)$ or even worse $g^{q-1}$ may not be well-defined if $q$ is not rational and $g$ take negative values.
Since $f$ and $g$ are not zero, by scaling, it suffices to consider the case where
$leftlVert frightrVert_p=leftlVert qrightrVert_q=1$.
Observe that for all positive numbers $a$ and $b$, by convexity of the exponential function,
$$
ab=expleft(frac 1pln left(a^pright)+frac 1qln left(b^qright)right)
leqslant frac 1pexpleft(ln left(a^pright) right)+
frac 1qexpleft(ln left(b^qright) right)
$$
hence
$$
tag{*}
ableqslant frac{a^p}p+frac{b^q}q, quad a,bgeqslant 0
$$
and by strict convexity, equality holds if and only if $a^p=b^q$.
Let
$$
h:=frac{f^p}p+frac{g^q}q-fg.
$$
By $(*)$, $h$ is non-negative and by assumption, $int h=0$ hence $h=0$ almost everywhere. By the equality case in $(*)$, we derive that $f^p=g^q$ almost everywhere.
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I will assume that the function are non-negative. Otherwise, the result may not hold, as we can have when $q$ is an even integer $f=1$ and $g=1$ on $(0,1/2)$ and $-1$ on $(1/2,1)$ or even worse $g^{q-1}$ may not be well-defined if $q$ is not rational and $g$ take negative values.
Since $f$ and $g$ are not zero, by scaling, it suffices to consider the case where
$leftlVert frightrVert_p=leftlVert qrightrVert_q=1$.
Observe that for all positive numbers $a$ and $b$, by convexity of the exponential function,
$$
ab=expleft(frac 1pln left(a^pright)+frac 1qln left(b^qright)right)
leqslant frac 1pexpleft(ln left(a^pright) right)+
frac 1qexpleft(ln left(b^qright) right)
$$
hence
$$
tag{*}
ableqslant frac{a^p}p+frac{b^q}q, quad a,bgeqslant 0
$$
and by strict convexity, equality holds if and only if $a^p=b^q$.
Let
$$
h:=frac{f^p}p+frac{g^q}q-fg.
$$
By $(*)$, $h$ is non-negative and by assumption, $int h=0$ hence $h=0$ almost everywhere. By the equality case in $(*)$, we derive that $f^p=g^q$ almost everywhere.
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I will assume that the function are non-negative. Otherwise, the result may not hold, as we can have when $q$ is an even integer $f=1$ and $g=1$ on $(0,1/2)$ and $-1$ on $(1/2,1)$ or even worse $g^{q-1}$ may not be well-defined if $q$ is not rational and $g$ take negative values.
Since $f$ and $g$ are not zero, by scaling, it suffices to consider the case where
$leftlVert frightrVert_p=leftlVert qrightrVert_q=1$.
Observe that for all positive numbers $a$ and $b$, by convexity of the exponential function,
$$
ab=expleft(frac 1pln left(a^pright)+frac 1qln left(b^qright)right)
leqslant frac 1pexpleft(ln left(a^pright) right)+
frac 1qexpleft(ln left(b^qright) right)
$$
hence
$$
tag{*}
ableqslant frac{a^p}p+frac{b^q}q, quad a,bgeqslant 0
$$
and by strict convexity, equality holds if and only if $a^p=b^q$.
Let
$$
h:=frac{f^p}p+frac{g^q}q-fg.
$$
By $(*)$, $h$ is non-negative and by assumption, $int h=0$ hence $h=0$ almost everywhere. By the equality case in $(*)$, we derive that $f^p=g^q$ almost everywhere.
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This result is standard. See the discussion after Theorem 3.5 in Rudin's RCA.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
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I looked at Rudin and I don't understand.
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– Trobjon
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