Does the additive group modulo $n$ have proper subgroups if and only if $n$ is not prime?
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After checking a few examples is seems as if it is true and I would have thought the elements of the group would be the multiples of the divisors of $n$ up until $n$, and how would I attempt to prove this?
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After checking a few examples is seems as if it is true and I would have thought the elements of the group would be the multiples of the divisors of $n$ up until $n$, and how would I attempt to prove this?
group-theory modular-arithmetic
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Would lagrange's theorem be used?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 13 '18 at 21:29
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Proper subgroups, you mean? I presume yes.
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After checking a few examples is seems as if it is true and I would have thought the elements of the group would be the multiples of the divisors of $n$ up until $n$, and how would I attempt to prove this?
group-theory modular-arithmetic
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After checking a few examples is seems as if it is true and I would have thought the elements of the group would be the multiples of the divisors of $n$ up until $n$, and how would I attempt to prove this?
group-theory modular-arithmetic
group-theory modular-arithmetic
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Would lagrange's theorem be used?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 13 '18 at 21:29
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Proper subgroups, you mean? I presume yes.
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– Sean Roberson
Dec 13 '18 at 21:31
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Would lagrange's theorem be used?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 13 '18 at 21:29
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Proper subgroups, you mean? I presume yes.
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– Sean Roberson
Dec 13 '18 at 21:31
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Would lagrange's theorem be used?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 13 '18 at 21:29
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Would lagrange's theorem be used?
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– 4M4D3U5 M0Z4RT
Dec 13 '18 at 21:29
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Proper subgroups, you mean? I presume yes.
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– Sean Roberson
Dec 13 '18 at 21:31
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Proper subgroups, you mean? I presume yes.
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You have that $(mathbb{Z}_n,+)$ is cyclic, generated by $1$ (modulo $n$, course), so $1$ has order $n$ in $(mathbb{Z}_n,+)$, then you can show that for every $d|n$, $d cdot 1$ has order $n/d$, and the subgroups generated by $d cdot 1, d | n$ are the only subgroups of $(mathbb{Z}_n,+)$.
You can show that $d cdot 1$ has order $n/d$ in the following way: let $o$ be the order of $d cdot 1$. You have that $displaystyle frac{n}{d} cdot left(d cdot 1right) = 0,$ so $o | displaystyle frac{n}{d}.$
On the other hand, you also have that $displaystyle left(o cdot d right)cdot 1 = d cdot (o cdot 1) = 0,$ so $n | (o cdot d) implies left( displaystyle d cdot frac{n}{d} right) | (o cdot d) implies displaystyle frac{n}{d} | o,$ so $o = displaystyle frac{n}{d}$.
If $n$ is not prime, you have that there is some $d in mathbb{N}, d|n$ such that the subgroup generetaed by $d cdot 1$ is proper.
If $(mathbb{Z}_n, +)$ has proper subgroups, then assume that $n$ is prime. Then, from Lagrange's theorem, you would have that the order of every subgroup would be a divisor of $n$, but since $n$ is prime, you would have no proper subgroups, which is a contradiction.
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A remark not important enough to warrant an Answer, since it falls out from your argument: It’s a Theorem that in a cyclic group of order $n$, there is one and only one subgroup of each order dividing $n$.
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– Lubin
Dec 13 '18 at 23:02
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I do not see the point of your comment. I know that it's a theorem, but the OP asked how should he prove it.
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Dec 13 '18 at 23:10
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You have that $(mathbb{Z}_n,+)$ is cyclic, generated by $1$ (modulo $n$, course), so $1$ has order $n$ in $(mathbb{Z}_n,+)$, then you can show that for every $d|n$, $d cdot 1$ has order $n/d$, and the subgroups generated by $d cdot 1, d | n$ are the only subgroups of $(mathbb{Z}_n,+)$.
You can show that $d cdot 1$ has order $n/d$ in the following way: let $o$ be the order of $d cdot 1$. You have that $displaystyle frac{n}{d} cdot left(d cdot 1right) = 0,$ so $o | displaystyle frac{n}{d}.$
On the other hand, you also have that $displaystyle left(o cdot d right)cdot 1 = d cdot (o cdot 1) = 0,$ so $n | (o cdot d) implies left( displaystyle d cdot frac{n}{d} right) | (o cdot d) implies displaystyle frac{n}{d} | o,$ so $o = displaystyle frac{n}{d}$.
If $n$ is not prime, you have that there is some $d in mathbb{N}, d|n$ such that the subgroup generetaed by $d cdot 1$ is proper.
If $(mathbb{Z}_n, +)$ has proper subgroups, then assume that $n$ is prime. Then, from Lagrange's theorem, you would have that the order of every subgroup would be a divisor of $n$, but since $n$ is prime, you would have no proper subgroups, which is a contradiction.
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A remark not important enough to warrant an Answer, since it falls out from your argument: It’s a Theorem that in a cyclic group of order $n$, there is one and only one subgroup of each order dividing $n$.
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– Lubin
Dec 13 '18 at 23:02
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I do not see the point of your comment. I know that it's a theorem, but the OP asked how should he prove it.
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– Cosmin
Dec 13 '18 at 23:10
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You have that $(mathbb{Z}_n,+)$ is cyclic, generated by $1$ (modulo $n$, course), so $1$ has order $n$ in $(mathbb{Z}_n,+)$, then you can show that for every $d|n$, $d cdot 1$ has order $n/d$, and the subgroups generated by $d cdot 1, d | n$ are the only subgroups of $(mathbb{Z}_n,+)$.
You can show that $d cdot 1$ has order $n/d$ in the following way: let $o$ be the order of $d cdot 1$. You have that $displaystyle frac{n}{d} cdot left(d cdot 1right) = 0,$ so $o | displaystyle frac{n}{d}.$
On the other hand, you also have that $displaystyle left(o cdot d right)cdot 1 = d cdot (o cdot 1) = 0,$ so $n | (o cdot d) implies left( displaystyle d cdot frac{n}{d} right) | (o cdot d) implies displaystyle frac{n}{d} | o,$ so $o = displaystyle frac{n}{d}$.
If $n$ is not prime, you have that there is some $d in mathbb{N}, d|n$ such that the subgroup generetaed by $d cdot 1$ is proper.
If $(mathbb{Z}_n, +)$ has proper subgroups, then assume that $n$ is prime. Then, from Lagrange's theorem, you would have that the order of every subgroup would be a divisor of $n$, but since $n$ is prime, you would have no proper subgroups, which is a contradiction.
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A remark not important enough to warrant an Answer, since it falls out from your argument: It’s a Theorem that in a cyclic group of order $n$, there is one and only one subgroup of each order dividing $n$.
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– Lubin
Dec 13 '18 at 23:02
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I do not see the point of your comment. I know that it's a theorem, but the OP asked how should he prove it.
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– Cosmin
Dec 13 '18 at 23:10
add a comment |
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You have that $(mathbb{Z}_n,+)$ is cyclic, generated by $1$ (modulo $n$, course), so $1$ has order $n$ in $(mathbb{Z}_n,+)$, then you can show that for every $d|n$, $d cdot 1$ has order $n/d$, and the subgroups generated by $d cdot 1, d | n$ are the only subgroups of $(mathbb{Z}_n,+)$.
You can show that $d cdot 1$ has order $n/d$ in the following way: let $o$ be the order of $d cdot 1$. You have that $displaystyle frac{n}{d} cdot left(d cdot 1right) = 0,$ so $o | displaystyle frac{n}{d}.$
On the other hand, you also have that $displaystyle left(o cdot d right)cdot 1 = d cdot (o cdot 1) = 0,$ so $n | (o cdot d) implies left( displaystyle d cdot frac{n}{d} right) | (o cdot d) implies displaystyle frac{n}{d} | o,$ so $o = displaystyle frac{n}{d}$.
If $n$ is not prime, you have that there is some $d in mathbb{N}, d|n$ such that the subgroup generetaed by $d cdot 1$ is proper.
If $(mathbb{Z}_n, +)$ has proper subgroups, then assume that $n$ is prime. Then, from Lagrange's theorem, you would have that the order of every subgroup would be a divisor of $n$, but since $n$ is prime, you would have no proper subgroups, which is a contradiction.
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You have that $(mathbb{Z}_n,+)$ is cyclic, generated by $1$ (modulo $n$, course), so $1$ has order $n$ in $(mathbb{Z}_n,+)$, then you can show that for every $d|n$, $d cdot 1$ has order $n/d$, and the subgroups generated by $d cdot 1, d | n$ are the only subgroups of $(mathbb{Z}_n,+)$.
You can show that $d cdot 1$ has order $n/d$ in the following way: let $o$ be the order of $d cdot 1$. You have that $displaystyle frac{n}{d} cdot left(d cdot 1right) = 0,$ so $o | displaystyle frac{n}{d}.$
On the other hand, you also have that $displaystyle left(o cdot d right)cdot 1 = d cdot (o cdot 1) = 0,$ so $n | (o cdot d) implies left( displaystyle d cdot frac{n}{d} right) | (o cdot d) implies displaystyle frac{n}{d} | o,$ so $o = displaystyle frac{n}{d}$.
If $n$ is not prime, you have that there is some $d in mathbb{N}, d|n$ such that the subgroup generetaed by $d cdot 1$ is proper.
If $(mathbb{Z}_n, +)$ has proper subgroups, then assume that $n$ is prime. Then, from Lagrange's theorem, you would have that the order of every subgroup would be a divisor of $n$, but since $n$ is prime, you would have no proper subgroups, which is a contradiction.
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A remark not important enough to warrant an Answer, since it falls out from your argument: It’s a Theorem that in a cyclic group of order $n$, there is one and only one subgroup of each order dividing $n$.
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– Lubin
Dec 13 '18 at 23:02
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I do not see the point of your comment. I know that it's a theorem, but the OP asked how should he prove it.
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– Cosmin
Dec 13 '18 at 23:10
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A remark not important enough to warrant an Answer, since it falls out from your argument: It’s a Theorem that in a cyclic group of order $n$, there is one and only one subgroup of each order dividing $n$.
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– Lubin
Dec 13 '18 at 23:02
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I do not see the point of your comment. I know that it's a theorem, but the OP asked how should he prove it.
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– Cosmin
Dec 13 '18 at 23:10
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A remark not important enough to warrant an Answer, since it falls out from your argument: It’s a Theorem that in a cyclic group of order $n$, there is one and only one subgroup of each order dividing $n$.
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– Lubin
Dec 13 '18 at 23:02
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A remark not important enough to warrant an Answer, since it falls out from your argument: It’s a Theorem that in a cyclic group of order $n$, there is one and only one subgroup of each order dividing $n$.
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– Lubin
Dec 13 '18 at 23:02
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I do not see the point of your comment. I know that it's a theorem, but the OP asked how should he prove it.
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– Cosmin
Dec 13 '18 at 23:10
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I do not see the point of your comment. I know that it's a theorem, but the OP asked how should he prove it.
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– Cosmin
Dec 13 '18 at 23:10
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Proper subgroups, you mean? I presume yes.
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